Shannon Watts and Joy Sullivan on the powerful emotions of women

Check out my Substack Live conversation with Joy Sullivan. Joy is a poet, teacher, and author of the national bestseller, Instructions for Traveling West. She’s led international writing retreats, served as the poet-in-residence for the Wexner Center for the Arts, and is the founder of writing community, Sustenance.Joy and I discuss finding the spark that made each of us come alive, why women should embrace emotions like rage and desire, and what community means to us. Be sure you’re following Joy’s Substack, Necessary Salt by Joy Sullivan, so that you can keep up with everything she’s doing.My new book Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, is available for preorder! Out in June 2025, Fired Up will give you the formula for finding your unique spark and show you how to use it to start fires in your life. By preordering, you can enroll for FREE in Firestarter University, a year-long online program that includes live monthly workshops, workbooks and resources, accountability check-ins, and a community to help you succeed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit shannonwatts.substack.com/subscribe