Shannon Watts and Zerlina Maxwell on embracing change

Check out my Substack Live conversation with Zerlina on how she knew it was time to make a big change in her life, the signs that lead her there (and continue to show up), and what’s next in her adventure (spoiler alert: she wants to stay in Italy forever).I interviewed Zerlina for my upcoming book, Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age. Pre-order now to read more about Zerlina’s journey and dozens of other women who have followed my formula for embracing their desires instead of fulfilling their obligations.After watching the replay, follow Zerlina on Substack at The Inner Work Dispatch.My new book Fired Up: How to Turn Your Spark Into a Flame and Come Alive at Any Age, is available for preorder! Out in June 2025, Fired Up will give you the formula for finding your unique spark and show you how to use it to start fires in your life. By preordering, you can enroll for FREE in Firestarter University, a year-long online program that includes live monthly workshops, workbooks and resources, accountability check-ins, and a community to help you succeed. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit shannonwatts.substack.com/subscribe