She Grabbed the Shark's Snout

Welcome back. Season 2. We opened with a tiger shark. Seemed right.That Wasn't The Plan is back for Season 2 — and we are not easing anyone in gently. Our first guest is Kinga Philipps: journalist, explorer, Shark Week host, Explorers Club Fellow, and one of the coolest humans on the planet. If you don't know Kinga yet, you're about to.We start where you'd expect — with a flight cancellation. Emily spent the night on the floor of LAX, made it to Australia, made it back, and showed up for this recording slightly jet-lagged and fully feral. What follows is one of the most genuinely fun, unexpectedly educational, and thoroughly unhinged conversations we've had on this show. And we've had some unhinged ones.What you'll hear:Kinga watched Jaws at a friend's house as a kid — wasn't allowed to — and was so terrified she couldn't go in a swimming pool for years. The little journalist brain in her eventually asked why she was scared, and that question changed the entire trajectory of her lifeEmily's own shark encounter in the Galapagos — six feet, two feet behind her, just curious — and what it actually feels like when the predator energy shiftsWhat to do if a shark comes at you in the water — and why the Instagram influencer advice will absolutely get you killedThe scariest moment of Kinga's career.73 million sharks are killed every year for shark fin soup. What Shark Allies is doing about it, why it's working, and how you can helpKinga's new Shark Week show: What Shark Attacked? — forensic shark species identification using GoPro footage, bite mark analysis, and actual science. Airs July 30thAnd a tease for next time: ayahuasca. Kinga has an article. Courtney has questions. We're going back in."You're safe in the water, ladies." — Kinga Philipps, probably not talking about all the other stuff we discussed📎 Find Kinga & Resources Mentioned:📲 Instagram: @kingaphilipps🦈 Shark Allies: sharkallies.org (board member — shark conservation, fin trade legislation)💧 Waves for Water: wavesforwater.org (clean water solutions globally)📺 Shark Week 2025 — What Shark Attacked? airs July 30th on Discovery📖 The Devil's Teeth by Susan Casey — go read it💌 Have a question for Kinga you want us to put in front of her for round two? Email us at [email protected] or visit thatwasnttheplan.com📲 Find us on Instagram | TikTok | YouTube — search @thatwasnttheplan_podcast. Kinga is on Instagram at @kingaphilipps🎧 Season 2 is here. If you're glad we're back — subscribe, leave a review, and share us with someone who needs a shark story in their life.That wasn't the plan, and we will talk to you next week. K bye. 🥂Support the show