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EPISODE · Jun 9, 2026 · 56 MIN

She Watches Billions in ETF Flows Every Day. What's Going On Behind the Screens?

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The desk at RBC Capital Markets that sits behind 90% of Canada's ETF market has a view of where flows are really going — and it's not what most advisors expect.Pierre Daillie sits down with Valerie Grimba, Head of Global ETF Strategy at RBC Capital Markets, for a wide-ranging conversation about the forces quietly reshaping how Canadian advisors build portfolios. Valerie's team serves as designated broker to roughly 300 ETF mandates and acts as authorized participant across the majority of the Canadian ETF market — giving her a real-time, flow-level view of investor behaviour that almost nobody else has. From the structural fracture that 2022 opened in the 60/40 model, to the liquidity misconceptions her desk corrects every single day, to the explosive rise of asset allocation ETFs, covered call strategies, AAA CLOs, and precision thematic plays, this conversation covers the full terrain of where the ETF market stands today — and where it is heading.CHAPTERS00:00 — Introduction: The 60/40 failure and Canada's ETF rebuild 02:11 — Valerie's career arc: Bear Stearns, New York, New Zealand, RBC 04:21 — How the RBC ETF market making desk actually works 05:36 — What a designated broker does — and why it matters 08:18 — Flash crashes, Liberation Day, and ETFs as a release valve 10:08 — The RBC market view: yellow flags, narrow breadth, and a 12–18 month outlook 13:29 — How ETF flows changed: from net outflows in risk-off to rotation 14:05 — Gold: zero correlation, the incongruent timing, and the 2026 outlook 15:40 — Higher for longer: what advisors are missing about the rate environment 17:46 — How 2022 changed advisor behaviour and launched a new ETF ecosystem 21:49 — Covered call ETFs: what advisors are still getting wrong 24:19 — Retail vs. institutional: why retail has been outperforming 25:20 — Private assets in an ETF wrapper: the square peg, round hole problem 31:11 — What RBC looks for before taking on a designated broker mandate 32:28 — The Pac-Man of Canadian ETF flows: asset allocation ETFs 36:29 — CAGE, XEQT, FBAL: who is actually buying all-in-one ETFs 38:58 — TLT as widowmaker and the search for yield without duration risk 40:36 — AAA CLOs, active fixed income, and aggregate bond ETFs 43:07 — CTAs, trend following, and the rise of alternatives in Canada 44:30 — Why GIC sectors are becoming antiquated — and what's replacing them 45:48 — DRAM, memory chips, and the new thematic precision playbook 47:11 — Single stock ETFs: access, covered call overlays, and trade-offs 49:07 — The #1 ETF liquidity misconception — and the three layers advisors need to know 53:28 — Best execution practices: limit orders, timing, and when to call the desk #ETF #CanadianETF #ETFInvesting #PortfolioConstruction #CoveredCallETF #AssetAllocation #XEQT #FixedIncome #AlternativeInvestments #WealthManagement #FinancialAdvisor #InvestmentStrategy #ETFLiquidity #RBCCapitalMarkets #MarketOutlook #ThematicETF #PassiveInvesting #ETFTrading #InsightIsCapital #AdvisorAnalyst

The desk at RBC Capital Markets that sits behind 90% of Canada's ETF market has a view of where flows are really going — and it's not what most advisors expect. Pierre Daillie sits down with Valerie Grimba, Head of Global ETF Strategy at RBC Capital Markets, for a wide-ranging conversation about the forces quietly reshaping how Canadian advisors build portfolios. Valerie's team serves as designated broker to roughly 300 ETF mandates and acts as authorized participant across the majority of the Canadian ETF market — giving her a real-time, flow-level view of investor behaviour that almost nobody else has. From the structural fracture that 2022 opened in the 60/40 model, to the liquidity misconceptions her desk corrects every single day, to the explosive rise of asset allocation ETFs, covered call strategies, AAA CLOs, and precision thematic plays, this conversation covers the full terrain of where the ETF market stands today — and where it is heading.

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