She's Seen 30 Years of Founder Breakups. Here's What You're Missing. Ft. Jane Hales

What happens when the person who helped you build everything becomes the reason it falls apart?In this episode of the Brandinc PR Podcast, I sit down with Jane Hales — founder, board advisor, and one of the sharpest minds in the room when it comes to cofounder conflict. With over 30 years in business, Jane has seen it all: the slow burn of unspoken tension, the Slack messages that become legal exhibits, the "strategy disagreements" that are really just hurt feelings in a blazer.And she's not here to be polite about it.We get into the OpenAI board crisis, why most investors still treat cofounder conflict like a last-resort conversation, and the exact moment internal dysfunction becomes a full-blown PR emergency. Jane also breaks down her framework for what she calls a "conscious uncoupling" in business — how to protect your brand, your team, and your own reputation when a partnership stops working.If you've ever felt something was off at the top but couldn't name it — this episode names it for you.What you'll walk away with: — The early warning signs founders rationalize away — Why your "performance issue" might actually be a relationship problem — How to communicate under pressure without writing tomorrow's crisis today — The governance gap that almost every founder-led business hasJane's book From Dream Team to Divorce? is coming — and after this conversation, you'll understand exactly why she wrote it.🎙️ Hosted by Dr. Brandi Sims | Brandinc PR Podcast 📲 Follow @brandincpr | brandincpr.comRESOURCES + LINKSBook Your PR Power Hour Session — If you're ready to cut through the noise and get a clear, strategic PR plan tailored to your brand, this 1:1 intensive session is the fastest way to work with Brandi. Start Here. LIMITED TIME: Pitch Kit — $27 (Valued at $497) Get the exact tools, templates, and frameworks you need to position your brand for media opportunities and stand out in a crowded landscape here. Get Brandi’s AI-Powered Tool For Pitching Media ⁠Right Here⁠. Use code BIPR to get $50 off your first month! Revamp Your Business Foundation with our exact automation tool that streamlines communications from prospects to media bookings in minutes. ⁠Start For Free⁠.⁠Sign Up for Our Free Weekly Newsletter⁠ and get bi-weekly insights on brand strategy, PR trends, and business growth.Drop us a review and we’ll send you our 5 Things You Must Have to Be A Media Magnet FREE (Value $297).