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Should Mike White Replace Zach Wilson at QB?

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So we're gonna get it to it. Let's go Lue I want to say I appreciate you stepping in last week you should like that Good job, right, you know, he was slanderous the outline because I had shit laid out for you, bro You're ready to look at it I Know what you see me and Lou on the show that's all you know, we talking football I'm talking about that goofy shit. What's the best game that's happening in this over? Exactly Man warriors playing cheeks right now If you worried about the Warriors right now Right now, um, you know, honestly, it feels like it's just a changing of the guard I think that's the biggest story you're seeing a lot of young players really step up John Marais again another level Luca is like unstoppable And then you're seeing some of the older stars is kind of coming down the earth as great as LeBron is you see it's One of the areas he can't carry it no more.

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We're seeing it and you know, I think it was somebody Q sent it to me Tell me something um Where everybody wanted to fucking call me when they let go of both but I'm gonna get no Lando ball in his ass off, but I'm just saying the future to NBA 10 years later on that take And then and then and I think that's also very interesting as well How much the NBA is already investing in webinama? So they bought the rights to his professional games for about a hundred and thirty thousand which obviously is a penny for the NBA Right, so now they're already marketing the next guy, which is fucking crazy. No, no He's the next guy. He's the next As we said a shit in the chat on the top And in the lead he over there doing some nice They say look at the best thing in the world is they can't get off the west Right now, but he was a west of office myself.

Hey, so the thing we're here I'm gonna say but a team let's move back to the real sports blue Yeah, I am worried about which is we were talking about it ain't the office, but we stayed in the AFCE system bills Yeah, I'll start with you showing outside of New England is Buffalo now the worst team in AFCE. This is how I take Tuesday by the way Jesus Christ Are they the worst in the AFCE I would I would say No I really have to think about that, but no, I still say Super Bowl MVP picks you know Well, no, but I was gonna say I was still breaking my head of the Jets and all these I would do that because we still don't know what my Gotta get a great game when you're when you got quarterback influx like that, you know We're yet to see what he can do under pressure like we talked about all the time and in saying that I still think that You know that just defensive top notch any other great game this week Mike right there like like Well, we particularly would it's still that I can't put him above Buffalo. Just quite yet. I can't do that But Buffalo is on the hot seat right now.

Are you saying that the Jets are the worst team in the AFCE's outside? No, no, no No, England's the worst, but I'm talking about as far as moving the Jets above Buffalo. I can't put him above Buffalo quite yet Even though they be Buffalo. Yeah, we still got to see what Mike.

What is going to do? I remember team you talked about Buffalo being and you were saying that meant something but when the Jets beat Josh Allen is You still got questions? Yeah When the bills beat the Chiefs you meant you said I met some right? No, no, no, no No, it meant something we were talking about ranking the quarterback at the time I was ranking the quarterback at the time.

That's when it means something to me something long run absolutely not because the playoffs I didn't think about the Chiefs. I never did. I never did. I never did.

I never did. Yeah. We've seen them in the playoffs face off twice That's why I said it didn't mean I'm not wasting that for a second Time to play with the vision around and he was up with her team. You're making my point.

That's my point That's what I said. I didn't think Buffalo could be in playoffs. I said admit something as far as the ranking of the quarterbacks You're a date. That's the only thing I said it meant.

That's it. And also when you talk about the Jets beating The bills once again, it's a different quarterback. You still have to take the consideration Okay, how much better Mike White is than Zach Wilson, which I feel like he's telling you don't see it as up You don't see that's other interesting that the Jets beat Josh Allen without a quarterback and now that they have Mike White Which you said you predicted would play well within that offense with those weapons They threw up 30 something this the most ones I've seen them scores in a minute on a grand in Chicago's defense Mike White coming out the bench as the pressure in QD You're saying that oh the Jets are not good enough No, they're not proven enough. We just said it yourself Mike White was third spring quarterback We still got to see what you can do in depression.

You can do it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah Once again, I didn't consider that pressure There was no expectations. There was no expectations of Mike White when he came in to beat the Bengals This bad team was a shell this time.

That's why we can't even count towards the picks either So it's saying that At the end of the day, we got to look at past Right games or what you've done to kind of predict or have an expectation of what he can do and all of the games That he's played, you know what he averages in terms of completion percentage Right, right? We tell me right? He's over 70 so I'm not gonna say he's gonna come in here be a gunslinger now The Jets do have a lot of talent right on most sides of the ball And I'm not saying that my expectations for this guy to average 250 yards passing per game But what we know is is that he's better than Zach Wilson. Yes, we know that yeah, but my eyeballs tell me that You know how my eyeballs tell me that because the previous week that Wilson as the lead guy as a quarterback got two yards and a whole Happer football this guy got Garrett Wilson to touch them in 95 yards.

They got two yards and they need to take blame for it They need to take play for it. It wasn't even accountable for it So what I know is this is that the quarterback situation at least for the rest of this season in my opinion it is salt because that Wilson is Somebody that is not gonna be a leader of men. He's already proven that multiple times This is not the first time that we question what type of leader he is Mike White the I feel that the team is rallying around him again My expectation isn't 300 some yards but that team is gonna play for him And we already know that if that Jets team beat the bills with Zach Wilson that Jets team would a comp with a competent quarterback It's not the worst team in that defense our five and two is that close to starting this season Competent quarterback behind that team No, no, I mean we play my house money you just I'm not banking on Mike White taking me to the place Jets are not gonna win the Super Bowl. No, right?

No, I'm saying so if I'm Sola their head coach I don't care if Mike White comes in and plays good for the rest of the season What I do care about is the second pick overall being good. Well, I like because I want my job long-term I don't care if Mike White comes in and bother Because sometimes as organized we see this especially football a lot You gotta make the pivot and only the best coaches make the pivot if the second overall pick Zach Wilson's not a guy WIP when Carson went when he was out they kept that the guy when it falls in baller, right? It was no question. You know I'm saying like my thing is this with Robert Sola.

They fucked up cool the Jets The Jets will admit that already though I'm saying this though the only saving grace he got is the fact they winning games The fact that I'm asking is Buffalo outside of England the worst thing The AFC's means that he's doing a hell of a job You know, it's good right now as far as head coaches both sides So my thing the whole point of this question is the fact of it's saying a lot about a bills and where they were at at the top of the season We thought they were so what he had now because I don't think Josh Allen's in the repeat racing He's falling off for the Jets part. I'm playing with house money if I'm solid I don't care if Mike White can come in and take me to the playoffs because it doesn't matter. He ain't gonna be my quarterback How do you see why you why you saying that? You know the same thing that said Geno don't do some shit It's the idea of leaving my life.

No, why would I believe in my car? I would you believe in Geno? So, no, what I'm just saying for Sala is that what I would want Mike White to do is teach Zach Wilson how to play quarterback No, I'm not What do you mean? Yes, you do because look first of all head coaching is definitely tied to the the play of the quarterback Right and not how many yards and turns out to get if you're winning and losing and we know that they're gonna lose more Was that Wilson and they would with Mike White right?

He's more competent than Zach Wilson is right now true Therefore the coach is gonna lose toward that like and I don't even know see this is why you said I'm outside When bro, they dropped his car so much in the first round Yes, Nick Fosles a career journeyman and they rode the hot hand and got rid of wins That's what's gonna happen here. You cut your fucking you had the chance to win Exactly what's all his long-term goal would be though is Zach Wilson. No, no, why? No, no, no, no, see this is why I think you're completely off base right a young head coach because he's still a young Hey, you're here to do it.

He's a you're too cuz I came in with three right here three two or three regardless He's a young head coach in the NFL if that why am I gonna attach my wagons to Zach Wilson when I already know it's questionable because In a press conference That didn't happen though they would have rolled that out because he's the second overall However, the only reason that he's on the bench is because of off the field sheet him The thing about this is a couple things that you gotta you gotta take a consideration when you talk about what's going on Mike White first off it I don't think it's Robert's I was decision when you're doing with a number two pick That's that's all the decision as to whether that guy's gonna play in that now I think it's up on little coach run thing, but it don't work like that. You're not gonna tell my owner I'm not playing this guy that we have draft a second What decision was made it was more about the fact that we're seeing results This team is so good even with the sheet of QB that you Okay, but then but then but then you'd expect them to be five and two no, okay So but it's not because of him right the team is good when they Think about think about the Dallas conundrum, you know, you know when they were It was a safe for office things Bank is that Bank of America that's what the difference is that there's no way that you're paying your guy that press got that amount of money And we're gonna go no doing Right and you're talking about because this person has draft stock that they're not gonna move off of him, right? No, okay, what's the point my point is your you were talking about the success of the team bringing a better quarterback automatically Means it's a success. It doesn't mean that the reason why they was winning those games because they were lying on the running game And the defensive carry them you bring in a cop in quarterback your offensive mindset changes sometimes and you think you can do more Then you can't that's why I'm comparing it back.

Okay, so I'm gonna give you a whole other I got two other examples Which is the same team of two different names, okay right now Tyler Hineke what did Ron Rivera just say so I don't care What all of these stats and everything says this team plays better behind the key we stick it behind the key because Carson Okay, also years ago when they were known as the Redskins they dropped it the number two overall pick Robert Griffith and then they dropped it in the third round Kurt Dougins. No, no Right and what happened this man rookie the year over Andrew luck all of this stuff couldn't slide got hurt Kurt took over and what happened now Kurt is still in the lead one of the highest pay QBs and this dude is You look at our Kurt cousins was in career like it was I'm not saying that but the point is is that in every scenario that we're bringing up the person that played better is still playing Cooper resident play better than that press guy. No, no, no, see I'm not I'm talking about the game. I'm sure about Because they have a new No, I didn't say that I said we got to see what it can do No, it doesn't matter what he could do shelter He don't the important thing when he started this point was Mike's out of probably isn't making the decision to have Zach Wilson or Mike White star right now for the next game Yeah, I can pull Zach Wilson because of everything going on in the media and I can put Mike White in Mike Why can do okay, and that can look alright because we have a great defense and I've been coaching the Jets well all season However, for long-term success and what Sol is there for the second overall pick that we put all this money behind We're marketing this guy's alpha Wilson as the face of the Jets.

I can't let him sit on the bench. Yes, you can't Oh I was Because Second best quarterback in the league and that's not a 30-hour many teams But so I like all the other communities like saw the same and make the easy place I think it wasn't easy place because if it was that easy Zach Wilson got we got more than two yards dog He would have gotten more than two yards at the end of it I started this whole thing by saying let's look at every game that Mike White is playing right It's a very short career starting in NFL, but what we can just what we can deduce from that is that he throws the ball at a 70% click That's way better than Zach Wilson's 50 Number two number two he's a fifth round six round it doesn't matter. He's outside of the factory rounds. He's captivating shit I came in at two good games did a third game before picks my white is an average quarterback.

It's in solace It's nothing I can do it on Sunday when he playing like Bart Starr in New York, but yes, you're gonna start the nigga kid Is y'all shiling fish out of MVP race? No, you know, he's not I'm already not always in the hot street and they just wait no baby in the media So you thought I don't know The only way man I heard talking about it right there. Yeah, you know, you know what I think Josh Allen's biggest issue is not having Brian Day more. I think he hurt somebody is I think I heard that Just he got something has to be wrong, but you know what we saw the first three games of the season in the same thing And we see all the people have adjusted I'm gonna say it's an 18 week season No 100% and we're seeing a lot of quarterbacks being banged up and this is this is football You know say at this point in the season you gonna be banged up little injury big injury nagging in this is gonna happen here But I again, I think the difference is and we're seeing the impact of Brian Dayball with the Giants We're seeing the negative impact with him not being there in Josh Allen's ear rain in the men Hey look needed this we need to do that and we see and this is why I say like the the best the biggest most important relationship on any football team is At least a coach or whoever's running that offense right sometimes not a head coach Whoever's running that office in that quarterback and we see now that was Brian Dayball in Josh Allen and part of that brain trust is now Gone and we're seeing Josh Allen is still a damn good court He's still a top five quarterback.

He's still I'll take him over everybody not named Pat Mahomes, right? But at the end of the day in certain situations and games we're not seeing that coaching Better than the bills I think the bills are worse team and I see right now Back to the second best thing I don't give fuck what he is because this football I seen two out here throwing up gang size and we five and he and they say what's his record if two starts and finishes a game They under the bottom and I'm saying I'm gonna fuck about another down a shit He hurt you heard you're saying my thing is we have a conversation about Josh Allen because I don't even think he better than Joe Burrow if we came in a full bean If we're keeping a whole big In red zone don't pick ain't like him throwing shit up like 50 yards and he's holding his elbow coach He's throwing picks in the fucking red zone coaching. That's not a long throw. That's coaching.

Well, it's that's gambling That's part of their gamelom and talent Pat Mahomes division It's those if I'm Miami if I'm Baltimore if I'm anyone in the vision leader I do not want to see Josh Allen coming to my hometown the first week of the playoffs Why I want to see that why because it might go back to what you see the beginning of the season We can't stop this dude. No, you I Think that there are certain teams that don't give no fuck about them bills I don't think the ball from not if Josh Allen got to go to Miami in the first week of the playoffs Division known and we we taking this to the house, but I like that defense, but Defense that defense ain't number one that's cool. That's cool But the best player on the field at that point in time will be Josh I think it's available. Okay, he made me a tool is probably who you do know.

No, no That's me Hey, so I Go Has done more than Josh Allen This is the reason why you gotta let people speak all I said was it's debatable in your opinion Joe Burroughs better than Josh Allen, right in my opinion They're both excellent guys the only reason why I brought Pat Mahomes up is because Pat Mahomes is on a tear by himself Just people watching to Say is this Pat Mahomes here by themselves fine, and then there's another tier of God Okay, two of those people in that tier underneath Pat Mahomes is both of those guys, okay If you want to say Joe Burroughs better than him you have a valid argument, okay? If somebody wants to say Josh Allen is better than Joe Burrough they have a valid argument. So who are you that somebody? You think I like them both to me they're damn near equal I like Things that I like about Joe Burrough more there's certain things I like about And see and that's what's a matter.

I can win with either one of them. They're very I see one with more And I have to be there to choose it. I'll see right in the screen I got a degree with Nick on this. I take the book just because of LSU just because of last year We seen I don't even know where Josh Allen play college for my own joke and I know why only Right like if we talk about getting it doing Joe Burrough did that all as she was a play I I Take it back years later Well And Joe Burrough makes up with the moxie in the coolest in the pocket so again It's a some movable thing like the pens who you talking to is how we get caught up in calling Jang Yeah, I just saw about Chief Miyagi just because you take a guy high doesn't mean you should keep him Wilson play like trash Why stick with him if there was a better option than San Frano what they've taken it Josh grows in junior Reason why you do kind of play it out is because of the mistake with Sam Donald your regime can't afford to make two mistakes back They did now y'all know I feel about that Wilson But what I'm saying is a lot of times in those cases people try to cover it up and try to mask it try to make you work So they don't seem to wrong that's what I'm talking about once again I'm with a y'all know I'm with you all the way I'm sure me with us but shelter now like it's just in the San darlin mistake was they dropped it a quarterback That was questionable and then that whole office was the void any talent right there wasn't question of a lot of people thought that San people said no no no 100% Us I'm talking that in sports.

We thought that that people's questionable I'm in the mistake in my opinion was is that the Jets didn't give him any talent to really evaluate him and I said that on the On the show I said look I'm not saying that San darlin is a complete buzz, but what is he throwing to you? Don't know why he's seeing those like it was just bad. You might be good of a successful Maybe right big question. We don't know But with Zach Wilson we can't say that they have not done their best to give him the best team possible that defense is very solid There's offensive weapons if you can't let's let's let's switch Justin feels as We talk we talk we talking at three teams in this division is gonna make a playoffs Well, how much on is do y'all put on the coaches though like we draft is do we draft is due at number two?

You can't have both ways because if you're saying that um it's not solace thing about benching him or moving forward Right then it's not dropping to me. I own the team right you and okay. I've invested this money in this dude in the number two pick I invested money and you was a coach making better. I'm gonna use right.

I'm gonna use a few only team you and tell him that I'm gonna use a FIFA scenario. He says that what GM's get the groceries the coaches know I'm cooking with this shit like that As a coach, I'm paying you to make shit work in Wing games. That's it. That's your only job Make shit work Wing game as a GM.

I'm supposed to give you the best time as I can possible They fucked up in Zach Wilson That's not driving over the rest of that draft though. We know the next two guys were really good Why are you giving this man so much bail? Well because again, I think he's strange. I think Zach was strange However, if I were the owner I would be so quick to make that decision if he was the second pick in the draft And I invested all of this time and his money and thinking that I was writing and doing so I think I got a good coach this coaches winning games.

Why can't you make this dude better? We know what he was good seems like that that's what they're doing there take I mean solace in this week He's willing to put him back in next week. No, he ain't he said that. I don't know why he said that though Because the owner is telling him I broke my wife is not gonna work.

I don't care. It might white wins the rest of the season That's not what we're saying. That's not the owner is not saying that Like I said if the owner was cool Does the owner know I can't win a Super Bowl? No one knows that's the one that's going to sue me.

No one came to the season That's the one that's gonna sue me. If I'm not gonna be very noble, I can expect Zach Wilson to one day win a Super Bowl No, just buy a draft to the number two. I can expect that sit on the bench like he is Because if I was the owner and I was the number two pick if I care about number two overall that much I won't want to bench his act. I would have left his ass out there to finish it.

I had to bench him because of the media Yeah, well since when the kid you told me that you told me a piss bird those owners don't listen to the media That's like he wasn't the way they don't If you're the owner you listen to the media that shows They had to protect Zach Wilson them guys were not going to play How do you protect Zach Wilson when he's not putting it out? Everybody says he should be in his place as he should That would not be on the defense probably would have they would not have played for this guy And you're telling me as an owner that I was supposed to have a post of the team I don't know this and I'm gonna keep moving forward a guy that's extremely common As an owner I hired you as a coach. I pay you very good money fixing Hell no Again, Robert solid pulling Wilson against the Bears tells me they're done with Zach because Chicago is a perfect opportunity to get that's Confidence up Absolutely, I don't think this has anything to really do with the gameplay. It's everything to do what he said in the media No, I think it's both I think look if Zach Wilson would win in that second half And he would have had 220 yards passing no touchdowns two intersections And he still said that he would have started this week.

No Because the question in the game All right, he could add to your eyes to the rest of the season and answer that question differently and still been started No, I don't give it. This is professional sports. Yeah, you get two yards and a half a football. You're getting banged on First round pick undrafted bro.

You're getting bad It's not that it wasn't we got more it wasn't that game for me with two yards. It was his whole career so far It's been underwhelming. It's the wrong pick. We called it I don't show you the same thing in that draft as what a fuck is that Wilson number two overall with nobody asking any questions?

I don't think he's okay, so Why do we have to? We'll only just I'll start with you You'll always fan unfortunately with the way Dallas and the Eagles are playing currently Which team do you have the most confidence to win the division? I think the Eagles will still win the division. I think the Cowboys get the five seed the number one wild card going to Tampa Hopefully be able to win it against brain JV it hurts each week is coming out doing his job whether you're running the football not making mistakes Is he Aaron Rodgers?

No, is he an elite quarterback? No, however? He is doing what he needs to do with it And I think they'll continue to do that. I don't see any of the anorata right now The 18th the best quarterback in the league, but he's on a really good team And that's cool for him and I think that what he's doing is commendable as far as you know Just being able to manage games.

That's what he's bottom on a barrel for compliments We just about three times getting full compliments to see the balance out He's a great game man He did what's that could do he wanted to be game against a roger's That could do it And Ross got hurt to be fit if Aaron Rodgers didn't know the whole game they might've came back I think Jordan loved really good when he got in there and I think um, we just probably saw the changes in other guard No, I don't go that far I can't even show First of all packers not making the playoffs. That's okay. They're not acting linear They're not my damn near they are though. They're damn near especially in the NFC Has a lot of winning teams in NFC now the reason why I'm saying that is because of this number one they're out of the playoffs Number two We're going into Jordan loves third year.

Can the man play or not? The wide receiving court is young this team offensively is young You got to know are we gonna pay Jordan love and is he gonna be our future quarterback or not? And then also A rod has a broken thumb on the throwing hand and now he has either an oblique or rib issue. He's not 28 That is something You might as well sit him down.

You're not gonna win the wnvp. You're not gonna make the playoffs We need to see what this got get healthy two questions Well, two questions are observations one we talked about earlier about uh, can't be heard We're not giving a fuck don't get for the right to stop or this side Another thing mathematically not out means that he's still in there He they run the table and some other teams lose we can see how she goes so Technically the team should still be competing to I'm not giving up all the seasons Nothing you just talked about Because of the money Bitch look what i'm saying is this is that your in my opinion based off And we know a rod is a tough guy right like he's been in the league almost 20 years too Like we know he's played through adversity through injury through everything He couldn't make it bro. He couldn't make it so if he can't play we know he's hurt I don't have to question that if he could make it through that rest of that game You think he's really gonna come in next we can be miraculously good at the parents No play. I don't even care if you do it like white dude 300 on the bears Hey, tell me a rottus game play.

Oh, hey, no one hit It's so I'm gonna take it Right now like I don't care if you get hurt like You gotta really walk so you're telling me that they move to draft fix the go drop the guy in the first round And you're talking about that they can't bend zac was because you the number two overall But you move multiple draft stock to go get a guy and that you don't want to know what he is Because i already painted a rod out of you and i gotta take you next year They know what you want to love it They have They Talk about how he's cleaned up a lot of his mechanics and he's a lot better They didn't know they win the game and rod speaking They gave a rod to stricty millikel got back to back MVP. Yeah, but they're doing love it I do enjoy love with I do enjoy love was had any type of moxie. It's like over. I would put in me So why even drive to a love them because they're gonna give it an Because they're gonna You can have it So you're saying that they're just gonna let join a love walk.

No, they may have to They You understand that when you pick up the fifth year option you're essentially guaranteeing a contract extension No, you're not. Oh, I can just draft They pick up a fifth year contract name one player when they pick up a fifth year contract and then extend them then Jones I got the 15th they give them a severe. Yes. Oh, I just got the 15th.

I can just take another quarter bit I don't care if you're in love leaves. Okay, okay. I'm too care that's I was But no Packers are any different they don't have an owner They don't have to like answer to anyone as far as it's one man wondering why you wasting his money They got a board of people just doing so let me ask you a main question with the way that is an Eagles are playing currently Which team do you have the most confidence in to win a division? Still Eagles.

I mean I think that they have the Easiest schedule down the stretch and they're playing at a high level. So it's still gonna be them winning the vision He's just got a high level right now Yeah, yeah, if you're taking one it seems to be that way to me you find every way to win games It looked pretty good to me last three games been rough. What even damn their cheeks is this the worst they've been all season Well, this is their words. I like it.

I'll take it Like Mostly That on time, right? Yeah, and that was most important It's all about Now now they played the coach team and lost that coach team, but what does it hurt? It is you do they beat the coach team. So based on your logic Nick, which is better than you like it makes sense to me You said who's better than who I say make it make sense to me based off your logic.

What do you mean? I said that the coach beat the piece correct. Yes And one of those games that you say they play shitty and the Eagles beat the coach. So by your logic, what who's better?

By your logic the Eagles are best team in the league. No, I'm asking it by his life When you made earlier, right? wins Yes Where's that matter? We know we know that that win against the coach the Eagles did and the loss against the Chiefs don't matter That does not define who they are as a team Okay, so just like I just The bills game that they want against the Chiefs don't matter because we've seen them play when it does and we see those results Okay That do matter Yeah Unfair advantages in the hole in the fell that old line nobody has something nothing near close to that and because of how they run their scheme And the quarterback that they got to do what they want to do They're gonna win that division.

I can't wait till they play the Cowboys again because I think that's gonna be a phenomenal game Is it next week? This division I know that but I'm just trying to see they played Tennessee this week. I can't lose Where's the second law? If they lose to the Cowboys where's the other loss to get them?

I'm a About the vision game I Be the chance A Because well, no, no, you don't have to be on thing, right? No, uh, Minnesota would be if the eagles get knocked out Minnesota Even though I see even though Minnesota lost a doubt here because I got this loss So you think it Dallas gonna go undefeated rest of the year? I'm thinking that game that they don't face the Cowboys is on the side of division Yeah, we gotta win the rest. I can Win the division we gotta go in the field.

You know what you're gonna get with Dallas sure you do that is true That is true, but I'm a gambling man can And right now something something hold on that was got the Colts the Texans the Jaguars then the Eagles and the Titans and the Commender right here. They're going out. I still I put money on the line that will so what all they take it to the Eagles and They will use the J The Jags just be tomorrow. We see what's in the field niggas I mean Yeah, can't be big in the everybody calls on Dallas defense Let's move on.

Um Can you buy the Jacksonville? I did Let's talk about that game We Get to me Can't oh, I'm actually sorry true. They both want to lose that game or the Jacksonville win that game. Oh, jacks me Wonder you know, I gotta give it to Trevor Lawrence, man.

No, go ahead. Touch down and it's a work version. No time outs Come on, man. Yeah, that's that's big time.

That's big time. I guess Form MVP art So all I know is this I wanted to come in here and be like for Nick right like oftentimes one game he'll go off the deep end So are we gonna come back to the I'm in agreement with you man like no time out to me that I think that's what made it even more impressive Right and you know, I know a lot of people especially here on Dennis voice have written Trevor Lawrence off Um At the end of the day like you need career-defining moments and you need things that um that you could build upon right? Are you still a young quarterback here too? You're one like I said, oh that over here took away side because that head coach and that situation was very toxic It was not uh an environment to get a number one overall pick to realize their potential This is one of those games just like I said um years ago with um with the coach and Andrew Luck, right?

Uh when it got uh I came up with a head coach. It was a situation where they went for it and they lost But I told you I liked it because of the mindset that they instilled into the team That's one of those situations right? Was it right? Was there where Andrew Luck before you?

Yeah, he was one year with him like that But either way it might have been I don't remember but I just remember that's an area right you'll be bragging about frame Right And to me this reminds me of that where this is again, uh for a young quarterback that he's still trying to establish himself in the league Find out What it means to be the guy this is one of those moments that we can say well shit You remember when he did this very impressive now You gotta be able to string it along but this is to me one of those starting points or one of those places that we can pinpoint and say look Like he has the talent and the ability to do this now we need to expect it You know to say I'm not putting them there yet, but we always knew he had the talent He just was able to show this one what I was saying you they've also more loser than jacks if I went it uh jacks ago Wanted 100 because of the way the manner that they wanted the game off what they do everything you could give the way like they have done Uh three other games in the fourth quarter this year. Um, but that was a hell of a drive Things like third and 19 or something like that and he converted on 34 downs and got him down He moved down the field just just effortless and let us see him That's what he did with what number one picks are supposed to do And you know, it's it's a come to Jesus mama. He made plays that he needed to make the win the game and his coach Um pull out all the stops at the end to go for the two point conversion in the win. So they won that game Um, I'm away from losing come back later, but uh two things can be true Um, the Ravens definitely lost that game and Trevor Lawrence had a great game It was his first breakout game.

I watched that whole fourth quarter Um because the Ravens again blew up the defense. I should say not Lamar blue a double digitally When I when I turned in the when I tuned in it was 19 it's 10 and then Trevor Lawrence Got him down the field that scored a touchdown made it 17 19 Then as soon as the Ravens get the ball back. This is like under two minutes. I believe or like getting close to the last three minutes of the game Thus ever runs the ball coughs that bitch up in the red zone.

This is 17 Baltimore's defense holds up the kick of field go 19 20 Raive of jack's will up with the Ravens got shot The mark the way hell of a play he pulled the shine Jackson out of the at a 2010 I even know Sean Jackson's on the league. I seen over 15 on the field. What the fuck is that nigga? Do a bomb to his ass.

I was the child Jackson son Let him down score to touchdown got him over the uh, did he get it? Nothing was just touchdown And he got so it's 27 20. I'm like, are they like this under a middle level should be good that defense is but talks Hey, we came in we picked them like rum shaker duty maker. All you want to call it's cheeks It's how the fuck do you let that game go in Jackson?

Trevor Lawrence don't give you that game It's a combination. It's Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, great game. Yeah, great game That's Somebody said it like ro if i'm a boy Jackson and i'm in there my contract negotiations and they trying to hold my feet to the fire for my performances I'm gonna ask them about the coach.

What we doing about our bar? If i'm gonna sign my career away and be here for the rest of my career I don't do having me with both tight ends on the field one in 18 times a game, bro. That's great. That's great room.

Great room. You should If i'm the more Jackson i'm going in there like right everybody on the sale bro Let's start with me and who I want it quarterback because at some point in time Yes, lemoi jacks and has some point blame because we talked about the losses that they've had and they've been up by more than 10 points and all the games But we got a point at harvall too like bro So this is your fault like it's something that you're doing with the scheme It's something that you're doing with this talent that we got in the mojaxon who might be the most unique talent that we have it Quarterback in the NFL and you can't win with maybe the best quarterback ever As far as what you're able to do like throwing and running the ball but bro you losing games to the jaguars Like we got a whole hardball feed to the fire and be like a jacks when i negotiate my contract i don't want him there I don't want him coaching me. Yeah, but the fumble didn't hurt him They actually yeah, the defense gave it up but tremor Lawrence took it he did I want to give him his props because he did this was one of the games when he kind of like dropped his It could be you know a bit of a coming out party film, you know and we'll see and if i was a white jacks and i'd be upset about that too Yeah, we lose in the tremor Lawrence out here bro. Hey, that's my thing because i was gonna ask you lemark on becoming more and more frustrated As a whole we see how you see how you tweet now Going off on the fans now and not paying them.

I don't think i'll pay I don't think they either i only because at this point at this point if you're watching this game is shelting I We don't get to some of these secondary niggas that you like to talk about and pay Need to call out so many mopers on here too. They say some shit. So many sec nerds in Baltimore Oh, yeah, we definitely They already said in the chat. He just got exposed my thing is I just if you're not willing to pay him now, you see what he's doing for your team that you're never gonna pay And yeah, that's what i'm thinking the same thing and then that's what he didn't help I hate that he did it man.

I be wanting to tell somebody to put you first off You should be checking your phone after a game after the game put the phone down bro I think look at this stuff because because I get you know you fired up you want to respond and people attacking tomorrow Which To who if you're getting credit for success you go get credit for the losses too And I get it and he should get it too. He should understand it But that guy got nothing to do with his money He got nothing to do with him getting his money So he had no business answering him and it just gives the media one more thing to talk about and I hate that I hate that it puts the microscope on him And that's that's the biggest thing but you're right. I don't think they're gonna pay him what he wants I don't really see him leaving though. I don't know what he could do but I don't see any other choice they have though Like I know and they talked in the chat they were talking about hardballs not the office of coordinating That's my however, they struggle no defense too.

So what does hardball do it's not He is special to me It's a special team That's the game Right That's If I'm the one Jackson, that's the number one talking point that I got going in to negotiate my contract bro You got me out here with hardball and Greg Roman John But you know what's crazy we talked about this Team in the struggles that they're having but you know it's crazy. It's in the first place the time for first place No, they're in first place because they're tied for first place They've been alone in first place. No, they're tied for first place. They beat the bingles.

So they're in first place They did beat the bingles that doesn't mean they're in the leader the first way they tied They go in Baltimore, but they own the tiebreaker currently The season today. Yes, they went to division But like you said the season still young it's still Still crazy though to say that the games that they've lost they've lost they've had they should be undefeated right now In some of these games and at least play down the streets like they do I Show y'all see the cup you must be drinking Now I'm saying the defense had held up the scene, you know, they were double digits by every loss in every loss So I'm saying that I'm saying it's just a travesty that they mean in the position that they're in And they're telling me the hardball in the offensive the one the game of double digits leads. So what does he do? Hmm Um Let's move on to these picks You gotta scratch that new york pick Why because we talked about that beforehand we said if we thought he was playing Um, we didn't know till game time.

Can't say he was gonna take that without it feels in play. Oh damn that changes you We didn't know Travis. Say me. I was gonna be a quarterback We take the game out here.

You just say that because you pick the wrong team. That's all I know you're right. You're right. You're good.

I pick Justin Fields. I didn't pick Justin Fields. You're all right Yeah Yeah, I think uh I did say that. Yeah, not having feels because I was like forever saying what the hell happened All right, so we gonna we gonna scratch that game.

I was still reading off. I still want that dub the uh the adjustments will be made but um Currently Everybody accepts by glue when four and three based off those games and obviously it'll probably be more um Four and two He was two and five again So I'll make their corrections for next week, but uh Sheldon is uh lead dog still 54 29 Three folks next which 50 33 after that. It's me at 45 37 then spike blue at 44 38 and then last is Ken at 39 44 But don't make a comeback. Yeah, those will get adjusted no sir But this is a hell of a week to make some pics.

I made a comeback and finish football. Y'all better watch out I know I Seen it is that what you talk for? Yeah, your top three. Yeah, seven and eight.

Yeah, I'm right behind shelter And then the other league on six and six after starting to a four I'm not trying to rule a season. That's all I'm all Uh, we 13 is definitely with a lot of great games actually uh, Divisional games. I mean shit and just games that could even end somebody season even if it's not uh for both teams as far as them benefiting Um But before we get into that Sheldon I want to ask you something And this will go into the pics because we're pick uh one of the games of the saints at the template buccaneers I asked you this first if ready doesn't make the playoffs this season is he officially gonna call it a career? I think I think I think he will Um, he had the health of season this year with all the stuff he had going on outside Man, I hate they made a joke on one of the shows about him.

You know, they were saying how long The one one of the shows they say today, um, it seems like that win against Dallas was so long ago It's like it seemed like Brady when he was younger and then they said he was married in two or something like that It was a bad joke, but man, I've been through a lot this year and I think if they don't make a playoffs I think you don't say you don't try to put more time into his kids Uh, he got a little he got a little yummy on the side. I said a little pictures. They've been saying they got somebody on the side You see me? You got me?

Not a little something something a little side chick. Um, but who do you got in our game? Saints versus bucks at Tampa Bay Saints versus bucks in Tampa Bay is gonna be the books FIFA Do you see Brady not making the playoffs this year? I think I think he make the playoffs.

Um, you know the the NSE South Wilder tomorrow, but I know and I like Atlanta's young talent, you know, I'm glad that they finally moved off from at Ryan Um, obviously mario is not the long term solution But um, I do like some of the pieces that they got there I like how they got younger certain situations But to me the experience of the books Tom Brady is hard to bet against them in a wild conference So I think that they do in the conference. I think you make a playoffs Um, I think if they don't make the playoffs I think it's gonna be very interesting to see the decision that Tom Brady makes and the reason why I say that is And I don't know if this is fake news or not, but I think that him and josel have gone through with the wars I think they are divorcing. Um, so they're done Yeah, so so they're done I'm not going back to football Roy's your marriage You might as well because like what are you what are you gonna do now? Like you just call it a rap and you don't have a family in a home Go to the worst case scenarios that he got divorced and he can't even be the foul because that's what it is.

No, that's worst case scenario Because now he's going to he going home as a loser twice. Oh, no Come on. Hey, man. We don't praise radio He's playing off his damn resume Historically, he had 11 white families People right now I think it's a bad thing to have a day No, man, like it shouldn't matter.

Oh, yeah, that was him. I wouldn't even care I just like it don't matter if he makes it to the playoffs and goals or either Don't win anymore games to see if I was him I'd be doing Um, however as a cowboy saying I would rather than lose out in the falcon and we have to come to Atlanta If I was in Atlanta Tomorrow Possibly lose to Brady in the first time Who was it? Holding it last place down I don't know if you noticed that I've never picked the bus Do you think you'll quit after this season if you want me to play else? Uh, yeah, yeah, or he's gonna go to Miami That's what I was thinking Yeah I don't think he's over He's dead either he'll retire or he'll listen maybe he goes around Tibles is don't he's not an exciting coach to rally behind Bruce Arians at least we know say some shit Tom bo's like he's about to fall asleep very press conference Um Can you brought the dolphins?

Dolphins have a huge game this week Because they go into the feed folks favorite team that he tried to get over on in the matinee Sam Fran Dolphins at San Francisco Um Give me the dolphins Beautiful big bubble with you Look at my record. Look you do us by You need people People while you mulling over that question because I know you're trying to pick between who's your biggest fan of between Miami and us San Francisco. Let me ask you this other question. I'm called Which team scares you the most looking forward going forward in the AFC?

Miami or Cincinnati? Um to me Miami because I think Outside of maybe the chiefs are the most explosive team Meaning like doesn't matter where they are on the field they can score from that position Now I think the biggest difference obviously is the quarterback sua has taken a major step forward Obviously, he's nowhere near the category of pat my homes pat my homes is the engine that moves that Kansas city offense But when we're talking about explosive weaponry on the outside is how do you guard that? You know and we haven't seen a team really to have many answers for it. So um I think Pittsburgh is they barely won that game too was trying to go picks too again the difference is Toa, you know saying like to uh as much as as great as he's been he is the thing that still kind of holds it back because he hasn't reached his maximum potential yet Right like this is his first good season next year.

We'll see where where where where he's um along But some me the dolphins are more scary than the Cincinnati so who what's that you as far as the dolphin versus San Francisco the office versus San Francisco Um This is this is a tough selection. The reason being is the dolphins can score San Fran hasn't given up a second half points in like four weeks, right? So if it gets to trying to score points I feel the dolphins have an advantage there like if they can crack the the San Francisco defense They have an advantage because Jimmy G is a water pistol in the gunfight And as many weapons and his greatest cowshanahan is if it's coming down to Jimmy G's arm They're gonna be exposed but defense travels um and this is at home The the defense and they're getting better the defense is getting better because they're getting healthier And i'm picking San Fran only because i got to make uh headway on Shelton Don't do that Pickles big I'm gonna go with San Fran. I'm confident that pick i'm from Miami.

I would love to see the dolphins win Okay Between Miami and San Francisco this is gonna get me a five minutes of liquid just to say i'm picking San Fran because she'll pick my All right, I gotta make some headway on he got me about four games All you all all the all the niggas is out is out this year. I'm aware i want to last you so it's enough I'm the Rams right now Give me the numbers. Oh there we definitely Don't let's go over here. Give me the 49.

Oh, hell no, I might have to switch my piece damn because you know why I'm you picking up I think deep like deep the defense is what's that's what it is mostly and I don't I don't think the tool though He's not ready to go to San Francisco this late this season and take it I'm more scared for two and Nick Moser Yeah, that match up is gonna be or they're both about two or two or those linebackers or they're they're not so he's I don't think the officer there yet and the last thing they faced I was really that physical most even AFC North teams Particularly Pittsburgh that I mentioned that held in 117 points and obviously no Cincinnati's not shit out of two So it's gonna get my physical to that We're talking about like the one of the most dynamic officers versus the best demons is in the league You gotta be good with you. Um moving on We have Another great game very interesting game Some would say it was the the best game of the year last year Some would say that was that was the bills in cheese, but I would say it was a cheap some angles And we see in that price now. We're seeing part three, you know how to you know be love boxing You know they always do them threes you know saying bangles up to oh She's going back to Cincinnati come back to Cincinnati because you already beat on that we've been both times so You guys I said I was gonna say I had to take I'm gonna be at that game. I had to call Jamal I'll answer boy.

I'm coming through. He said I got you go to the wheel call. I got you. I'll be at that game, y'all Uh, shell says kc because he's a hater He down his haters will you pick a kiss?

Well Listen they say he may play He only had a concussion I I'll just say he's falling out. Hey, is he not so we can't say the questions hold back nobody People who you got? Wow, okay Is offended the Joe Burrow thinks he's on the same way The bangles are not meant to be fuck with whoever they get Patrick my home will show you Sunday that it ain't the case We'll see how they look good last week like we even MVP most likely Girl, it should be easy. But Burrow is coming up.

No easily. Hey, bro. It's this game handling like at least by touching on it too I'm saying if you do this not Yeah, because people forgot the things I won seven out of last night games. It will be a second way They wouldn't put Joe.

Well, it would be less Can we got I hate to do it man. I think with the cheese bro Now you want to get back into the big game Oh my goodness All right before we get onto that one Let's go to another game Uh, there's another quarterback that people wanted me to talk about this week because he finally got a dub He finally showed that he can win a game in the fourth quarter Even those against the shitball arrows on a Cardinals. We have Justin Herbert Original game against the now hot Raiders In Vegas, but before we get to that show, let me ask you a question your brand is daily save his job for another year with that close win versus Arizona I think it's gonna take a little bit more than that. Um, that was a nice win But once again, like you said, it's gonna take more than one game for him to save himself because this team according to a prognocentated They about else this team, you know should be compete for a Super Bowl.

So when it gets the Cardinals is not the answer So no, he did fucking car running off a terrible right So it was impressive it was impressive win, but once again, it's just a win So who do you have between them and the Raiders? It's at Vegas Oh, give me the charges I really don't have much faith in that Raiders team room They seem like they believe in each other now They do they come they're coming around with they should have believed in Josh Jacobs a long time ago I think around 6,000 yards. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go Raiders with this one. You're gonna Raiders.

I think I'm gonna go Raiders, bro Who you got people? Okay. Why are you going Raiders? I'm going to answer a little bit better.

Let's pick first day dancing Why why why I see the game you playing? This man is like damn near last you think I'm here I'm just interested in the logic that's all I'm trying to figure out if you want to pick I do think that um, I'm kind of with Shelton. It feels like they are about to turn around Now I'm with people. That's a good question because they just like can't see it off the last two weeks They won those over times games Jacob from the ball car made the speech they got the talent without they had to be given the season This would be one of those games because they can't coach right that they would go and lose this game Later season when they need to win I can see the right to take this game however.

I'm taking the charge Yeah, I think I'm going charges as well, but the reason why I wanted to ask was because I have that same feeling too Yeah What was the tip of point for me was watching Josh Jacobs run This man was questionable before the game with calf injury He ain't look like there was nothing wrong with him and even coming into the season. I know we named our top five right in the box Excuse me And we overdue for week 12 by the way, we had to do that We do we do we do that But um, Josh Jacobs was like second or third on the on the depth chart, you know I'm saying and for him to watch that game He just had that man was running like It's like literally dependent on his conscience. It kind of does. Yeah, this contract depend on it.

This is kind of a season He's got a great season. I know why they've been running the ball. If I'm the owner of the Raiders. I got wondered I've been talking about the last week I got Adams.

He's doing his job. He's got the same production that he's had in green That one hand catch was stupid boy. I got Jacob's he's doing his job. It may be my quarterback I think it's a big part.

I know that's all the numbers Josh Jacob had, bro This week of fantasy as long as I'm ready Y'all Crazy, but he's partly why I'm picking the Chargers is and I understand it's the Cardinals I like what I saw from the defense. Um, Derwin is doing his Derwin doing his job. He looks like the best safety of football Okay, Kelsey, okay, Kelsey the best time in the football No, no, no, that's the other DB. I was running out the memory that we talked about earlier this season.

He got paid and I said why I don't know what he said Is because that nigga can guard these niggas See because you're trying to go slander what they tell you just do to Jalen Ramsey anybody I think I said earlier this season than Ramsey done. Why? So that wasn't surprising to me. He got Again, that's not a not to do it with James though.

You know, nobody can guard kills you bro You're in German James to the best player at his position No one's gonna pay you $68 because I'm the best player in my position And I'm gonna do the best that I can't put three quarters against him the rest of y'all niggas gotta figure it out Touchdown, okay That's tight and possibly ever to play the game. Yes, yes, and and he better grow He could catch him Yeah, here's the thing I don't know if you watch or listen to the new heights podcast, which is Jason and Travis Kelsey Right, they got podcasts together and um Travis was talking about how He doesn't like when during puts his hands on him. He's like it's tough as hell during when it's one of the hardest matchups for him He kept up with him for three quarters, bro. It's all you could ask him to do No because he actually gave my dollar It's differences to this shit, bro Travis Kelsey is here.

He's going to the hall of Yeah, so that's we're talking about hall of fame best this position ever to play the game girl with James is best This is the question of this year in the league. That's the question of the bro. So let me ask you this In any sport don't is it they're not a saying saying that there's no defense for good offense for a perfect offense So it doesn't matter how great that defender is if the ball is just placed perfectly this that whatever It just it is what it is you're going against possibly the best quarterback and possibly the best height ever and here's what you want me to do Every sport Every sport is biased toward offense every sport because that's what right with the good butts Am I not here an excuse this for why i didn't do his job. No, no he didn't try to say growing James is a good Exactly, he's not worth that money.

Yes, he is Because no one could guard And even to even to add on to that there's no other team that's gonna say hey you go guard kelsey when i want A Step Let me say this. Let me say this. Let me say this. Can you agree with this that the chargers They're everybody in that division have has tried to construct their team to beat the chiefs right?

As they should and you would say coming into the season the charters had the best roster to do that right? Yes, granted they have injuries, but like we said football is football So we're not gonna use that excuse right so when you telling me that even the titan himself Who I like was thinking he's just saying that shit just to be nice because he bought on his ass and he lightweight keep ball on his ass He bought on his ass when the chart when he was dusted the charge again, where was he at last year You telling me i'm paying a nigga 65 million dollars to do something that I could get a bum out there to do Put your hands on So Studies How's he not because we know grok Like it even I don't even know why you keep Travis Kelsey is heading shoulders actually better outside of blocking than Travis Kelsey He's just bigger than Travis Kelsey. That's it. What does he do better than Travis Kelsey outside of blocking res on touchdowns I see tries to tell see I had tried to tell see on my fancy team so I was saying a lot You're not saying show bring up that coast game all the time.

How many touchdowns that he's driving that coast game in red zone? So Huh But what I know what I asked was what does he do better than kelsey red zone touchdown No, he doesn't do that better than kelsey What is you talking about? You didn't watch all those super bowls that What's the ball that Brady throw a touchdown to who was that for? Uh, was that ground in the end zone?

What are you just doing up? Okay, let's come on. I like he'll see too. That's since that he's own trust me I'll I'll fuck with the niggas just from the but we can't just say he's had his shoulders better than the nigga Who's got four rings and he's broken a bunch of records Kids so kid you agree with Nick on the fact that there was James and the guy by Oh, I don't care about players of money.

It's not my money. I'll give it up Yeah, I don't know I used to but I you know, I got old man. I was like, why am I worried about that? George is the best player's position.

No, and kid I think I agree with you about that as far as do you really care? My thing is more is money shows a team is showing the world or at least And I like this player a lot that I'm gonna keep him he's one of the best players that money says that money says that he's One of the best players that he's one of the best players. He is the best player. He is the best player I disagree and I have film to show you Because again, I go back to this night last year Travis Kelsey the second half a new shit against this And we gotta just see bass back there too I guess I guess I don't know I don't watch these games.

That's what they say So I guess I guess we just got to move on What was it? Who did you think I picked the Chargers and I also picked in the Saints fucking years. I don't know if I say I picked Tampa Bay as well um Last last three games that we picking uh up next is the Titans Tennessee Titans going against the Philadelphia Eagles at at Philadelphia I have Philly Ken what's that you mean? Tennessee's coming off of that loss Give me the Titans.

I have no respect for the Titan breath. Give me the Eagles What's that you show them? You know Eagles Titans always find a way to win these stupid ass games they shouldn't win. Uh, who about you people?

Eagles who? Eagles Um, up next we have the hot I think the commanders have the Or their time for like the most they got in valed in later. Yeah, some like that I think a lot of games lately with Heineke Uh, we have the Washington commanders going against the New York Giants at New York. Who you got show?

Give me the commanders. You know, I got the gene name I'm going commanders as well Giants over bro. I kind of hope so because I want to get a cj shout since he's as fall off the cliff ever since he got that That's busted by Michigan Chances had won the quarterback went black and we missed after the had genome bro Think about Brian V to have genome. I'm saying like we all fired the coaches Brian dable with you know now What you mean, why not never happy Is the g-men and who the commanders where where they playing New York Mughal g-man you over thinking of now.

Well, he was on a hot street He was my regular regular dinner curse this now. I'm talking about the Giants record I've been high on the Giants. I like Brian dable Loo. Yeah, give me the Giants Last game last game is the big divisional game The Patriots have been hot to Matt Jones had a hell of a game.

He did he did they got robbed wrong. That was touchdown behind him. Oh, man That was bullshit How was I Matt Jones had a hell of a game It's the bills at New England people. What's up?

I'm gonna Buffalo too. They should win this game That's what I'm going to want to show The first question I asked I was like outside of New England is the Buffalo bills the worst Divisions, you should win this thing. I'm taking the wing Yes, sir. Oh, yeah Can we get I'm going with a Patriots too.

I think I got to see it again, but Matt Jones really look comfortable Give me on the road to it was a minute. I was surprised. It's the ability time of the year I was surprised I come through you up throwing the ball prime upset. Yeah, show me who you got Give me the bills.

All right So we got the pigs in I want to be wrong. No before we get to the super chats and all that shit People want to bring up something that is actually really interesting the topic now that I had time to do some research on it Um, well, let me read these they got a quick. Yeah Um, uh, first one, uh, woo young, uh, shelter had his darndle jersey on sunday never I want to go back to that one. Um, big way of art if ready retires the season He's gonna be in the soul stone world and see chazellians kids and they're gonna say what did it cost?

Hey, he'll settle rings on eBay five years from probably will and uh kaleb williams. Well, we're young again for hot for husband us. He back He looked great that night bro Yeah, yeah, he was like no, no, hey rick riley, maybe the best coach will not get but this he's the best coach USC look way more dominant than not a day. I was surprised.

I was happy that note of them got some wins because the black Ain't from any was he was a coach that you see so I fuck with um, right? They're gonna try to come fox. Yeah, you got the highest contract over the fox. He's like pond orange Right, you're gonna eat good off the fox.

Uh, look a lot of the always selling rings though A lot of these players make way more money on tv than they did in their Consistent Yes, no, why I think well, I think the true eggman is the best As far as color and of this year. I think the a and then a romo and it is just you know, like i'm like who's He different he's the color guy. I'm like who's a play by play guy. I like i'm like, no, yes to answer your question But I think the eggman adds more insight romo has good games But the in-between stuff ain't as good as acumen in between stuff acumen provides more insight for me I think the worst is her curse No, that's country still in money.

Whoever's paying him to do those guys to me I like romo because you know oftentimes a lot of these guys like they'll say oh, this is may happen It'd be said that bro. It's like romo is the offensive court like romo be knowing that's about four times a game acumen all game though He's steady consistently gonna get you shit like that and what's crazy with romo is like Yeah, you couldn't do shit. This is with this information You're gone on all this shit. Yeah, yo, no record is shit ball, but uh, romo's good He I think he's better this is Oh, yeah, yeah Yeah, people brought up a good point as far as looking at the draft this upcoming offseason Uh as of right now from uh, November 29th from the athletic they have listed out the projected top 10 picks I'll read them off to y'all number one right now is obviously maybe no surprise everyone Houston Number two.

We have Chicago number three. We actually have the la rams. Um, it's their detroit pick Um, number four. We actually have denver.

So so who is drafting at number three? It would be the Detroit Detroit So I just want you to make that well, yeah, it's the Rams pick but Detroit exact Um, jerry golf. Yeah, jerry golf just like with the uh, number four is denver's pick But Seattle owns that um number five. We have carolina shut out to you Shelton number six We have New Orleans, but that's fillies pick.

Um, so filly is drafting. Mm-hmm. And number seven We have arizona number eight. We have the Colts number nine jacifil and right now detroit has two top 10 picks The reason why I wanted to bring this up and discuss it a little bit is we rarely see teams that are pretty much playoff guys Have top 10 picks Seattle, you know to everybody outside of spike, you know, it was you know, surprise So for them to be as good as they are to add a top 10 pick.

I thought it was very interesting to see where do they go Is jeno r guy? Are we gonna pay jeno? Go back You know, say do we take a skill position? Do we take online?

I think Seattle's in a very interesting position Um, the Detroit Lions two first round picks like they just got eight in hutchinson. St. Brown is nice They have a very young core that we see that they're moving forward now. They're gonna add two top 10 picks Right.

Um, what was another team in the eagles? Right the eagles are drafting in the top 10. Yep number six and they're nine and two So They're gonna draft will Anderson from You always have a fetch of cocks is a rating of what I said this one alive. I think So so so I think it's interesting like the eagles Do the eagles trade down get multiple picks or do they stay at you know top 10?

Do the lion's trade out do the seahawk straight down? Like I think it's gonna be a very interesting um draft like very interesting draft I think that this is going to Let the rich get richer and then the the teams that made savvy moves be like well Damn like is it gonna be a new trend? You know, so that's the main reason why I wanted to bring it up because I see that The reason why I thought it was interesting after you brought up because I thought you on it And a lot of fun talking about the draft and all this good little ball is still going on But for me it was just more of like this is what happens when you buy a ring Right For the rings you mortgage your future And if you win a ring great, you got to tie an old career down that banner But look at the fucking Rams right now. They could have a easily a pick that could help them next season or whatever They could have their cubia the future they could have their cubia the future because not right right now Doesn't look good and they don't got nothing on offense right now to get you any kind of hope outside of Cooper cup So it's just like oh, yeah, I'm gonna be shit off for a while Just like you know, okay, we're talking about shit ball teams.

Look at the look at them for Broncos, right? I don't think it was a bad mistake of trading for Russell Wilson. It was it the trade It was extending him before you allowed him to play He had still two years on the contract before you extended him You could have let him play then you could have lost a top 10 a top five pick But you not married to now you're married to well The mark the cutie mark was gonna go up and I guess they were just trying to get ahead of the cutie market Yeah, the performance first Yeah, but you're trading all these picks for a reason you know, you was gonna get a cubed All the time he was gonna get like a empty counter cubie But but but but let's let's put it like this if you made the trade but didn't resign him You probably move off of him after this easy. No, not really because you're not because you gave up all that first round So you don't leave all their pitches on and the cubi gone, but here's the thing they're averaging 14 points a game You could blame that on the coaching come back.

Okay. I am blaming them on the coach and I do too. You know how I say hacking Hackett, right? So fine.

You're rid of hackett You didn't read up Russell Wilson you bring in a new coach and they average 14 points again Then I don't do that But I'm saying but what I'm saying is it gave you the flexibility to wash your hands of that situation We're now your tie plus you lost the draft stop So you lost flexibility and you lost the compensation You have to have some type of left right like this is business and in the negotiations and in business As one side of an entity. I gotta have some sort of leverage Broncos have zero leverage now How they gonna pay anybody? Do you understand what Russell was his cap is my leverage? I have the most money as the Waltons as owners and I don't care about fine Nathaniel Hackett You're right about where I can't do nothing about Russell I gotta keep them unless I wouldn't eat that 30 million But I'm firing hacking I got like I have any faith that anything that I'm doing as the owner of the problem I gotta believe that he's his system if I went and paid Russell Wilson I gave him an extension before he even played it down I got him out in the front of marketing I have to believe that it's Nathaniel Hackett versus Russell was even though I'm looking on the field and I see my pockets If I'm a Walton and somebody owns the team I gotta believe that it's it's but let's look at what's happening on the field What was that?

So again, and there's another reason why we get rid of Hackett Like what? He's gonna attack. Okay. Do that to Russell.

Look at the end of the day Spike, I said Hackett was out week one. You didn't go for it. We go trade all of this We go trade a top three pick and we're not going for it on fourth and three Like so to me Hackett was already out of there But again It's just very interesting to see teams that are gonna potentially make the play off run top 10 picks And it's more than one Yeah So I just think that that's gonna be very interesting going into the draft to see if they actually take highly skilled players or highly drafted players or They move down in the draft. I think it's a very interesting topic I agree.

I think that if I'm Seattle I would seriously look at trying to gain more draft capital and put some people around Geno I know Kingdom want to hit his but I would build around Genos I wouldn't go that far. I wouldn't go that far. So what say you are with the Seahawks? What do you think they should do?

Should they drop their QB of the future or try to build around Geno? It's such a tough choice right now, but based off Genos play in a leadership that he's shown this year I think you can let it right for a little bit You've seen that list that list was put in a group chat They got drafted however long it went back and that list was Barrage So if you're telling me that I got Geno Smith already right here Well, I got a technochances on Strout and do from Tennessee and all of these may be quarterbacks who can't even win like in college You mean you don't swim So we think uh Carolina's gonna do that number five if they stay there They're gonna draft quarterback. Um, it's um If they're five, that's what they are It's gonna be kind of tough to get one of those top guys, but it's gonna be one of those guys. Don't be shrouded or um They really want to Um, that's that's probably what they end up doing, but I hope not But you don't like to keep you honest class.

Oh, I like um Stroud and Bryce those my guys in the way I but um Draft him either one of those top five I'm looking at Zac Wilson and these people that are in the league now that I've been taking that have been taking high And I'm looking at Bryce on getting whoever struck hell. No, but see what you did ever say it's like what you talked about earlier You see them doing on the collegiate level you seen straw has success. You seem or bright strong has success You I'm talking about their talent like if I were only looking at that there's no way that I would invest in even one of those guys I'll tell about Yeah, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. They prove that they have to tell it to be those guys I trust them way more than the exact ones and I thought that's all Zac Wilson in college that was almost here He's out of his league in college.

There's no way it could translate to a good NFL career Those guys have shown in college that they can play up next level people around him leaving them I've seen some beautiful passes by Scott awesome passes by Bryce young. We know what um hookah can do All the problem hookers. He's injured, but Carolina has no choice but the draft quarter back The scouts said only thing problem with hookers is birth certificate That's it. That's it.

Well now the ACL so yeah, he owed any hurt You owe their hurt I think I think I think I think shit I thought that going into this season that this qd draft class will be like one of the best ones Because they had like Bryce, you know, see the shot I thought I was thinking that they were gonna really do a lot of shit this year and it's been a complete opposite for the most part Um, I think I think a lot of I think a lot of things don't come up on a qb I think some of these keep these on fall It just in fields because I think it's Shout did he have a better college so far across the river than than fields? Strauss no way there's been It just feels all it just feels like I think Shout so far Trial not good. Just feels good. It's just he had quarterbacks in that trial Just the people said quarterbacks in that draft that were a lot that people thought were a lot better They weren't try isn't impressive.

Yeah, he's I haven't seen especially with Um more of a Harrison jr. First of all, maybe this play on this one See You know J. J. McCarthur Even though that wasn't his fault those corners were getting cooked.

Yeah, that defense got tortured But we forget this Not not to make excuses for trial, but his number one receiver is not marv Harrison jr No more receiver. I can't think his name, but he didn't play this year much. He played baby. Two games was his name That's his best receiver But Exactly Oh Oh See green bay, I remember just from looking at it was interesting especially with this old Jordan love situation that maybe Probably that was one of the first one of this stood out Uh, who else um so you got the Texans the Bears the Lions CJ Strauss seem like the perfect quarterback with a Texas.

That's the type of that doesn't marriage made it in Uh, that may be the Packers the Packers and the Raiders honestly you think they're getting to the top 10 The Raiders may went may went out. Uh You got confident in them. I gotta look at this guy's book man. It's almost something feel different But um, well, yeah, I mean, oh the Seahawks.

Yeah, damn the Rams and the Broncos fucked up I mean the Rams got at least the Rams got a small That's how I was saying but anything And it's like damn like they tried to replicate what the Rams did and his multiple years. So let's just say the bubbles are booty next year Like yo, that's very interesting very interesting Uh, all right. I think that's it got another super chat. Just came in here.

All right, yeah, let me see here We got some room big way What y'all think about the commander Sean Taylor Memorial? I heard it wasn't good It's extremely disrespectful First of all It was a wireframe Right, so it didn't there was no face to it. It had a Nike jersey and mismatched rebot hands It was cleats. It looked like a whole fucking publicity stuff Like this this was if I was the Taylor family.

I'd be on the phone talking about take that shit off It's brother. They have an instrument it. That's what they say as I'm looking for that day This jersey in the glass. Yeah.

Yeah That's bad. What are you what? Yeah, they could have done more you could have done the wax statue. You could have done a actual player statue.

So look how it looks like. It's cheap. It's not Hey, like you're saying you can't look at it like you say Okay, what's wrong with that? However, we're talking about the details and them not honoring the day like someone who's supposed to be a big part of your Mannequin.

No, just get on a fucking zombie bro. I'm just getting right. Give me a right. Give me a right.

Give me a right. Get the shoes right Get the pants right. I mean, okay. I mean kids mix match Let's not be disrespectful to this day.

Right. Let's not be disrespectful to death. First of all after Sean Taylor died They took the field without him. They put 21 all over the feet like come on.

Like if this was that you want to watch Get it right, bro. Just get it right. That's not right. It's not right.

It's not right. It's not right That's what he said. It's not right. It's the jersey like he didn't win it Like he bought jersey versus Nike jersey.

The pants were different It was it's it looks like it ain't really about snot Organization of the Redskins and how they just dropped the ball with everything Like people just find shit to complain about with them rightfully so because they have asked it They could have done a statue but it's that you waxed it. Yeah, something I can win on Amazon. I can win on Amazon by the mannequin is that a third and did that That right there. That's 24 for the hour.

I was worth the word, bro. Maybe they just Maybe that's phase one That's what that's what that's It depends on somebody that lost their life as an integral part of our organization That's not how you commemorate them. That's disrespectful. They're probably gonna add to it, bro They're probably gonna Add to it when you could have just got it right in the first time and then that's it They're gonna add some some black Uh, yeah I'm over right now.

This can't move but no, it's just disrespectful. It's disrespectful I'll see the shoes Who wears those kicks though like who wears those? They said that whenever whenever Washington gets in any kind of trouble They're trying to throw Sean Taylor out there. It's kind of like a saving grace The last time something happened is when they decided to retire his number Yeah, and they they didn't tell anybody that they were retiring his number.

They just said okay So no announcement. No nothing. It was just like a knee jerk reaction So a lot of the things they're doing they just do it when they feel like they're in some trouble So that's all they're gonna do is we can have legs that we got that you have arms Somebody in there to fix that shit and February you have a dash Fix it That's the project man. They're gonna write dress me fix that shit.

Yeah No, anyway, all right, uh, let's go get in trouble That's gonna do it, but man, uh, we'll catch you guys next time we out these

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