EPISODE · Jun 24, 2026 · 1H 21M
Should the Fall be celebrated? | Caleb Woodbridge and Damien Walter on Pullman/CSLewis hosted by John Nelson
from Unbelievable?
Philip Pullman has called C.S. Lewis’s Narnia stories a “filthy lie” — but is that fair? In this episode of Unbelievable, John Nelson is joined by Christian writer Caleb Woodbridge and science-fiction critic Damien Walter to explore Narnia, His Dark Materials, myth, imagination and the search for meaning in a secular age. They discuss Pullman’s critique of Lewis, the “problem of Susan,” whether Christianity suppresses maturity or offers a deeper vision of reality, and why fantasy and science fiction continue to wrestle with God, goodness, suffering and hope. Can stories reveal truth? Is Christianity simply one myth among many — or, as Lewis believed, the “true myth” behind them all? Subscribe & Support 👉 Support thought-provoking conversations and help keep the show going at www.premierunbelievable.com/geolink/donate💡 🎧 Never miss an episode! Subscribe to the Unbelievable? podcast at www.premier.plus/unbelievable 🎙️ 🔗 Get bonus content, updates, fascinating articles, and early access to new episodes - absolutely free! Join now at www.premierunbelievable.com 📢 Follow us Instagram: https://instagram.com/premierunbelievable Facebook: https://facebook.com/premierunbelievable Tik Tok: https://tiktok.com/@premier.unbelievable X: Premier Unbelievable? (@UnbelievableFE)
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Should the Fall be celebrated? | Caleb Woodbridge and Damien Walter on Pullman/CSLewis hosted by John Nelson
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