SHOW 69 "LIVE 69 LIVE 69"

They're listening by the way, you know that right? What? Michelle's listening. And it's pronounced Elin.

Elin? Michelle Elin. I am black. Let's, let us all practice that together.

Michelle Elin. Take a deep breath in. Now do it kind of artsy, you know this is a movie so... Michelle Elin.

A baby. Really? Really? Wow.

That is so... That was her contribution. Spectral. Alright.

Are you guys ready to do? Are you guys ready to do? 69. Yeah.

It's time for girls to eat the mow mow. Going downtown. Gotta eat the pussy right yeah 69. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do this.

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Recording live from the threshold lab in North Hollywood, California in front of our Pervity Studio audience. Hello Pervity. I'm Kathy. I'm Abyss.

The Pussy Kooky show was an amazing show. No, in particular, the 30 minutes we lost in the middle of the show. We're not going to talk about the fact that 30 minutes of the show was not amazing. I think that you got so excited that you accidentally bumped something with your elbow.

I hope that's what it was. Look, we keep looking back. Okay, yes, for those of you that listened to last week's show, the Pussy Cookies episode, which was fucking amazing, we made Pussy Cookies in Mark and it was amazing. But unfortunately, the computer that has been reliable, thus said reliability for 67 and a third episodes just miraculously at 40 minutes, just stopped recording and kept running.

The timeline kept running. And then, just to show that this is going to be awkward and weird, started recording again on its own at a minute, at an hour and two minutes. I think the computer just said I'm done. That's it.

The topic is too. It was the swapping of cookies. That's when I came down. I'll tell you that much.

It's when Renata and Mark actually chewed cookies and shared them at the behest of Hollywood Daddy, of course. He said, hey, this is a good idea. Of course he would. And so you encouraged him.

Don't throw him under the bus. And then the so, but that's okay because we just recreated it at the end. Well, I was in the kitchen. Yeah, well, you could just say way away from the.

It's pretty good. I was safely not here. Don't think you're all better then. I just came back from the East Coast where Obey is a thing, like they have potato chips.

Obey flavored potato chips. Why I put it out for you? I went and bought you a new one. No, fuck you.

Obviously you. You suck you. No, because you said you knew. No, no, no, no for the listeners.

We were gonna do this bit, we were gonna do a bit where he was going because Obey is a seasoning and he was going to go, Obey and I was gonna go, that way. Which would get me very cute, but during the moves and so forth. The Obey disappeared and took it home. I do not.

And then fried it back and I kept saying hey dude. Where's my old bay? I wanted to make some like crab You know I was like hey, where's it? Where's it?

Where's it? He's like you took it home? You took it home? I'm like I didn't I actually did not take it home and today magically.

There it is right next time I might have been looking in a box and said hi look at that fucking old bank So uh, what do you do? Well back and she gave me the stinkiest look I don't blame her for like I don't remember it being you know Like I like yeah, I'm pretty sure you took it. No, no, you were very different Yeah, okay fine. She has her old days Kathy.

You had a dream. What was your dream? No, that's last on the list No, it's going right. I had a dream.

I'm gonna end up Was it having sex with boogie having sex with somebody it was actually somebody who who is or has been on this show Cuz I am not giving you any other hands. Oh my gosh. Well, I gotta be 11 people. We've been to show I'll give you that much cuz we're a guest driven show.

That's right not on the show, but even in the audience has been in this room In the dream I'm in this public park and it's nighttime and for some reason I lie down on the grass and this person goes down on me Whoa and in my dreams even though I'm having sex I can never climb access rude, but this time I did Yes, I'm gonna tell you it was amazing Listeners deserve to know me that listeners deserve to Michelle. There's four of us here Don't we can have a vote and I get to override the vote. So if you go with me on this Now I have to use my brain and think of the five people that ever guessed it was a guest or just a regular I'm not telling you in this room in this room. This room was or is oh You just you just you actually limited down the team female or male was or is what's a female?

I mean what I'm saying was mark not giving anything. I'm not this is not like guess what it is So what is this anal doctor? Yeah, what's anal doctor? That was some bullshit.

Okay. I'm just gonna share this real quick because Sometimes the fuck off sometimes the old by the way Michelle. We tell each other to fuck off a lot It's kind of like a our bonobo bonding, you know, primate bonding Bobo bonobo bonobo bonobo bonobo bonobo little monkeys that fuck a lot and so I let's fucking fight monkeys. Okay, so So mark gets a lot of UT eyes your nary tract infections Um, so and and and so it's really been a problem and they're very frequent and of course A bit given lots of advice and we read up and okay drink more water Make sure you pee after sex a lot of the things that you need to do, you know There's a you know cranberries and you know antioxidants things like that you can use to help minimize the you know The frequency of getting your UTI but she keeps getting them So she goes to the doctor finally she sees urologist and the urologist is like are you having anal sex and she's like well Yeah, duh fuck head you know, I feel like that's not actually how she's like Down and then she gets in his face and you'll see this fucking ass.

You don't fucking get that fucking bitch And so that's what she did to the doctor and I think it but hurt the doctor Because it was a male doctor and obviously his wife's or whatever significant other might not be given in the ass play and so he's but her So he's like oh, it's most likely the anal sex which is something that is normally medically sound I'm not I'm not arguing medically sound not arguing okay because there's fluids when you're doing anal sex Especially if there's lube involved that can drip down over the vagina and enter your e-the urethra and then cause your Interim Which is fine we understand that but he's like we need to find this out. Yeah, Nick needed to find this out So he says hey so we can find out if this is what it because you get it so frequent okay Um don't have anal sex for six months and boogie life just Don't have anal sex for six My surprise is not actually about marks wait. Yeah, wait countable key is redeemed because I know doctors They're not in this story and there is and there's bullshit and there isn't in so I she comes back and lays this fucking truckload on me Which is you know cuz I'd you know since it's a big part of your sexuality is this the ass so um so I'm like So I'm like well where where does this number six months come from is this like a statistic is this something is there information? She's like I don't know he just said that it was six months don't touch that fucking button It's not even there so I'm like hey, you know This is a big part of everything you can't just fucking tell people hey don't have fucking anal sex Or because I don't care about anal sex and I know a lot of doctors and we all know there's a lot of doctors I've got complex that make up but you should or put their own opinion wait There's an ending to this and I was right so he's you know Is there more information because if you're gonna take away someone sex life or a part of their sex life for six months You should have some fucking info right?

Where's the study? Where's the thing that says six months is the allotted time? So we go a couple months lo and behold she hasn't had a UTI and I'm like okay Well now we know because if she does if it is the anal sex then there's an antibiotic that you can take once a week or so before sex that Well that's actually not how that works well, that's what the urologist said so you'll be on a low-dose antibiotic to be daily It's they said it's once it's quite a commitment to anal sex daily toes It's daily it's daily it was once before sex. It's daily.

That's not how fucking antibiotic way. Hey, hey, okay fine I think our nurse Mark gave me a mark said once you said before sex wait a thrower under the bus Why would I say something to okay fine then it's a day then it's a daily dose a small dose? Okay, thank you very much. Thank you for that great information.

So I'm like, okay Well now it's been two months why do we have to go for six whole months and so let's find out because this is starting to you know Get irritable. Oh, don't you look fucking like you're sad. You wanted up the ass too slut. Don't stick your tongue out at me Hey, what I'm more concerned about her medical weight wait now.

I will bring home my correctness So I said look this is obviously frustrating But if this is the real number if this is really it can you at least email the doctor and say hey, you know It's been two months. We haven't had a UTI Is there some if we're gonna do this we're fine with this but it is causing some tension and so is there some you know Is there some research is there some research wait? It's good is there some research? That's available that we can kind of read together and help us kind of you know, you know Something work through your your I can work through my fucking issues And if you're a fucking doctor and you're gonna get expert advice and you're gonna tell people that they should fucking do something for And pick a time out of your fucking ass you should have some fucking ammo to back it up because people get frustrated with this It's our sex life not yours God complex fucker.

So his response was and I fucking quote Well, if it's been two months you have your answer. There's no actual evidence that gives six months It just seems like common sense is that is that is that profound medical advice? No, that's somebody I think it's just so much that I disagree with what you said that I and you know that's how long he's so long in the show I'm saying is mark got fucked in the ass an hour But then we know he said you have your answer. I just picked the number, you know out of whatever Yeah, so goddamn it possibly you thought you were like every other average American who has six one So we didn't realize you guys were on a speed it up process where everything hey, so give us some info also Agenda Our Party what you have a finished potato man.

It's the first one. It's the first one. What's he cookie party was a success last week It was a nation point. It was the first one we talk of hang on So we have nixie under camping here today That's a laser light show that we now have a Nixie it's leaving on So we have a blue light so when there's something going on in the pervert podcast chat room We turn on the light and then we know that the person moderating the chat room has something to say so I just added like a laser Now we know that is not under that is a much cuter version of Nixie are you there?

I'm here. That is very good. Remember to put your face right on that microphone So what's going on the chat room to of our chatroom participants did their own DIY at home pussy cookie Yes, they are party time on Saturday and did they put post pictures on their fat life? Yes, they can ask about it because I commented on them king and princess Yes, they are converted podcast and they did it alongside in the same day Practically while the party was going on yes, and they froze the dildos Party by the way was amazing 11 I gave away because we had little words that I made that says I made pussy cookies and people are now all putting them on their Fet lives from taking their pictures with theirs and that means that they we made the cookie dildos in the kitchen Saturday night It was amazing 11 women got made pussy cookies and got fucked with cookie dildos It was amazing to walk down the hall and literally see at one time four different scenes going on with people laughing Smiling enjoying the actually where it was amazing and then the whole dungeon smote like cookies and then we cut them open and just made Just dozens and dozens of cookies.

I spent most of my time in the office. Yeah, he's not a food sex play person But that's that's that's it was really amazing part I don't want to hit anymore because we've been pussy cooking for another than a half. Let's get to Michelle SM Sally Oh my god. Hello Michelle.

Hello. Thanks for having me. I This is so much fun. I'm so glad you finally got through with all your massive touring of your score Sazy type film Letting the world know about SM Sally because I'm in it.

That's that's why that's why I'm so excited I am excited. Well, that's what I've ever seen is actually that fireplace scene that you do they did that was an awesome So we're gonna go back. Let's go back. So Michelle is the director She she does you have a whole series with it's who are the two characters with Jamie and Jill So the first film is called but Jamie the second film is called heterosexual Jill and the third one's SM Sally and the premise is this is a lesbian relationship Yeah It's a lesbian couple and on the outside they look kind of like a traditional bitch fem couple and they decide to go to be a Some clubs well actually Jamie the one that looks but she finds out that her girlfriend Jill used to go to clubs and she's afraid of falling behind in the bedroom so she's like hey, I think we should go to clubs but deep down she's really like nervous about it and What I wanted to explore I thought was interesting is that even though like I say they look like a traditional But I'm couple's kind of switching those roles so they start going to the clubs Jamie who I can advise the butch one likes more This is a role but isn't quite ready to admit it and own it and I kind of liked You know poking the fun some of the comedy at her insecurities and perceptions and ideas and kind of her struggle with that Her identity that was awesome We now you have the premise you're gonna let you chew on that and then we're gonna get because obviously Kathy and I saw the This was on vacation so she didn't see it.

She will have to see it It was amazing because I was in it and that was amazing And so you need to know but that's it and that's it and that's actually here when they were filming it That is that is true So yes, it was they used threshold as a rental and I you know on the rental chair so I like that way he got So I just I mean they said you guys you guys had a bunch of you know Different things that you were gonna do and then you kind of say hey We need this and that and buy that one and some things that I do a lot and so they're like well Why don't you just do it? You know and I'm like well, I'm here This sounds like a lot of fun. I love doing them big attention work. I have to say you were pretty good in it.

It was fun It was funny. Yeah, you put me in slow motion. I'm amazing In real life, you're a fucking train wreck Don't have me but it's slow motion. I fucking rock so we're gonna talk We're gonna get into some of the more in-depth talks just first to get the brainwash Where do they go to see this film?

It's now in vimeo, right? Yeah, it's now on vimeo exclusively on vimeo We're eventually gonna be on DVD and other video platforms for the next few months It's all vimeo which is great because then it basically through the production companies That's the best way you can support the film is directly through the production company as opposed to the distributor That comes out later. Absolutely. So it's like $3.99 or something to rent that yeah, that's that is awesome And so they go to vimeo and they look up as some Sally yeah, or they can go to my website baladiesel.com and it'll take you Right there, okay, very good So we're gonna get you're gonna be five more plugs for that because we really want to support this because I'm in it and And plus it's got a great and I really we'll talk about I'm excited to talk about it because there's some things that we really Make it's not 50 shades of gray.

There's actually a much more sensitive Towards not putting down the BDSM lifestyle or making it look dysfunctional which was really very exciting. So we're gonna get back to that But first Ladies For your peace of mind please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted permission to do so I just want you all to do anything. We're still recording coming up on 20 minutes Still recording so let's continue all right So our first post is by the lady deviant who wrote something called anillis are actually all right I should know I used to be one in which she says how often do we pass up on perfectly good guys because they don't identify with our Dark side and so automatically deemed them incompatible I've passed up on so many opportunities in the past because I became terrified of getting into a relationship with a vanilla Okay, maybe a vanilla lover might strongly a jeep to me wanting to push my lady cock up his ass But just because a man is kinky doesn't automatically make them a great fit for me I realize now I may never find someone to take all the boxes in my man requirements But I feel more willing to open myself up to the lighter side of life and just go out and have fun I really did like this one. Okay, are you still like flipping over the lady cock?

No, no, fuck all the dudes you want is like me But this is something that anybody is going to deal with in it actually has been it's come up. Yeah, well you're back on the Girl, yes, I am okay. We heard about your bar people hitting up on you the failed callback. Yes.

That was pretty fucking funny He texted again Anyway, but no, this actually came up because it's like not everyone's kinky So unless you're fishing off a fat life or at the club, you're like well shit But I found that like at least the people I've spoken to I'm very open with who I am So they're either it's really quick to find out if they're you know supportive or not So as long as someone is supportive of what you're wanting to do and it's still you can kick out You know hit your kinky boxes elsewhere. I don't really see it as a problem I totally agree with you I think that there are things for me at least from my perspective that are deal breakers if you're not polyamorous or Allowing me to at least do polyplay. I'm probably gonna have a hard time being in a relationship with you But you know it her post really got me thinking because There I have pretty much been just writing off anybody who doesn't hit all those boxes kinky wanting to switch Polyamorous completely non-traditional in a lot of ways that I run my life and I realize in reading her post that maybe that's I'm asking for a lot because I do know a lot of people who are vanilla and they're fantastic awesome people Maybe if I gave them a chance and there's also nothing saying that they're not gonna be fantastic lovers if they're not caked Exactly so because I like vanilla sex. I like just plain old sex that Non-kink sex.

Thank you. I have to what don't get but hurt because I use the term vanilla sex I'm just saying every now and again. You should not use it as a derogatory term Who said it was derogatory you people that are don't aren't you and the person talking that it's a Derogatory talking is not using it in a derogatory sense. I'm gonna be fighting this.

I use that term a lot I do not mean it in a derogatory sense show what you think um this is Interest yeah, I mean yes. Yes. Yes, right? It depends who's it depends who's using the word and why and the way that you're using it I think we've had that discussion before if I said oh you're fucking vanilla with that fucking look on my face in that attitude then yeah That's derogatory I'm sure anybody with any sort of racist lingo could say the same thing and say you know I just use it in context of you know When I'm with my black friends, but again, there's so much wrong with what you just said.

I'm not even I'm just saying anywhere Any way down on who is director? Yes guys guys going back to the topic. Oh, yeah So dating people who are not necessarily in the King community or kinky yeah, no, I'm I'm on that and And and there was something I was mentioned in the post I thought was very interesting that it was like just because someone's kinky Doesn't mean they're going to be a great mate just because you relate to them on a kinky level is an automatically like wow Let's get the wedding rings and go for this, you know There's still obviously if you're gonna have a relationship with someone there's there's a lot of stuff that you need to click Or it's not gonna work. So I don't think that's necessarily a default to use either But as somebody who lived a very repressed life long ago and now has opened up and become basically a very Sexual central kinky person.

I do not want to be a martyr For my sex life anymore because I did that for years I gave up my whole entire teenage ram bunches buck years because Jesus didn't want me to stick my fucking dick in something So I couldn't do that and I went through and I got in the monogamous marriage and it was miserable It was fucking miserable. So for me, there's a lot of Dynamics here that come into play with how kinky are you if you're somebody that kink is your core like for me kink is my core not I have vanilla sex and I can have an illness but in general I need to be creative and kinky and just explore and have people that want to do that with me Otherwise is that if this is a monogamous relationship? No fucking way no way will I be a fucking martyr again and go through and I talked to so Many kinky people that like their significant other is like completely not into it and and then they make them not be into it Well, this is what we were saying if you can find someone who maybe is non-kink, but it's supportive Yes, like there are a lot of people not a lot there are people in this club that I've met who are married and their part Their spouses are okay with them coming here for polyplay and some are even polyamorous Oh, and then they go ahead also guys just to remind everyone Not all BDSM is sex based sure so if your kink is not sex based, you know It's I had a difficult time explaining to potential people that I get off on hurting people So but if you can if you can find someone who's like, okay, you can do that to someone else just don't do it to me I don't see the problem and but that once again is somebody that's in a relationship where the partner is okay Because regardless of whether it's sexual or not when you're grabbing and biting and clawing and hitting somebody That's visceral and those are things that a lot of people are not cool with that their partners go and do So if you have a relationship where one is non-kink and then the other person allows you you know gets to go and explore their king Then sure that might work But still if it's something that's really core to you and you at like if this is your only relationship like you're not poly and you don't have Like if you have three or four different people think that's what poly's for poly is so you you're not into this I can do this but if you're in that monogamous primary kind of just as thing that is a miserable fucking place for somebody Who's really kinky to be in and you shouldn't martyr yourself move to where you need to move to yet the job You need to get the job and live your life because you know what after you die You don't get to go nobody's there to say hey It was really nice you know martyr your entire sex life for your entire life So you could be with this person who doesn't want to explore that with you Is that why you're such a miserable old man because you're now resentful and bitter? I'm not a part of party wait Michelle have you ever experienced like that do you strictly go for the asm type so well I think I find a lot of people that are curious especially in the lesbian community And I think maybe the straight world is different because there's a little more like I don't know But I think being part of the queer community were already a lot of us already exposed to that and maybe open to that So I feel I feel that there's you can find good compatible people that don't necessarily identify like yeah I'm kinky, but they're out there and they just haven't discovered it yet I'm jealous of the queer community Which leaves another thing that this is another angle of this type of relationship when you have relationships just because you maybe don't Identify with kink and your partner does there is a certain aspect that you can still try things There are still levels of kink you can give to your partner like role play or even spanking or or something of that nature that you can still try And maybe it's not your thing But you love your partner and you want to explore something I mean because how many wives sit through their fucking husband's football games for fucking three hours or go people go and sit and They're ham radio convention or whatever So if you're willing to spend that time for your other partner to do the thing that they love Why shouldn't kink be something that you just do because it makes your partner happy or at least at certain levels that is possible Yeah, I think it's also people are a lot more open to it nowadays even in the heterosexual community Because if you talk about you know when we used to do the panels we used to say stuff like you know Who's into hair pooling who's into light spanking who's into biting who's into whatever and you see all these kids kind of like oh wait Oh, and I'm like that's kink.

Mm-hmm. They're like oh Discover it. You're kicking you didn't even know it. That's good.

That was good. That was good post wait a minute. Wait a minute. Wait a minute That's so heavy metal that's like hairband that is hairband metal this is show 69 and there will be two instances Kathy do you have your clock timer?

No Do we actually need to do this twice in the show this is show 69 goddamn it so right now we have Spike on her back We couldn't get anyone to 69 with Mark so Spike the pineapple will be filling the role of said Amazing to give to our preferred podcast listeners so now Kathy get up there and help them. This is okay So what's happening now is mark is now a spike is on her back on the massage table hang on a sec Let's get the demo Mike. Okay, she's trying not to see a mark Okay, so now here's what's going on so now because mark and spike are not necessarily fluid stop not start yet He's a price you got to pray before your meal sled so what would whoa buddy whoa so here's what we're doing because they are not fluid bonded We're going to do a safer version of the safer. Okay, Kathy You start go under her legs and have the plastic wrap go the other way that way and then Is they are actually using safer sex practices because they are not fluid bonded and so we're putting Saran wrap over both of the Chinese But what we're trying to do is in 69 position in 69 position.

It's kind of well plastic wrap can like suffocate spike So basically what's happening is Kathy has now we have now wrapped all the way from spikes lower back So from spikes lower back all the way up around her cooter all the way up to her tits So we can then make other Saran wrap lay over that and then run all the way up her body and around marks ass and up marks back And not so far so now Yes, this is hard work safer sex, you know you got to put it in you got to care about it now then are you guys ready to go for shows It might look like a good Can you please move a side because I just have to watch and make sure you have to make sure they're doing it correctly ladies and gentlemen Can you please start the festivities lick? Oh my god, sorry get pictures. Yeah, Kathy moves so she can get pictures from the side. Oh This is so right to be taking care of this while in our own She get a sheet get a blanket under spikes head or hold her head up hold her head up There Vaches suffocating spike Mark I'm just going to town.

She's like this hungry little nymph aren't you? No, no, no, no short Time it was supposed I think like 12 minutes That's not 12 no 12 minutes. We're gonna do this a couple times. No, no One good lick one good Scatter the buzzer oh careful make sure she's like fall off.

Oh my god. No breath play. Oh My god now, I know that seemed unromantic and rushed but I got this for you look at the smile on spike space That was not bad for you. Did you enjoy tasting mark?

He's a good yummy, huh? Mark look at the excitement on their face Put your blankets back on oh, and they're hugging now. Oh, we don't have an all button. We are That's cute Michelle, this is what we do on the show by the way Do you do a number of radio shows while you uh while you promote it as I'm selling some but never never Never no just like just regular station.

Yes, and so nothing is kinky radio show so pretty much the best show You've ever been on of course absolutely. That is that is you didn't know We have obey and oral sex I Did a good job you did it job you did and Kathy you did really well So she said you was like fucking trying to overprodu such a totally wise wasn't listen I was minute. I have to know what's in his brain. I was trying to not have a guest die on the show I think that's that what you're trying to do is a Shover face deeper in there.

I know Because in the practice run before you guys were in the room because yes, we practice these things production We in the practice I saw that spikes head to spike was trying to get up to marks vagina And so I'm like hey And I grabbed a blanket and I folded it and kind of tucked it in there And I forgot to put that on the table. I was happy to help spike hold her head up. Did you feel? Did you feel the energy of that fucking man?

I could feel okay? So now we have this coming through my hand Let's move on and let's do our next It was amazing Alright, our next post is by scarlet 13 who wrote unfollow on fit now, so this is just a heads up She's discussing the new follow me or unfollow me feature on fit some people who are listening Know that that's what I mean what I read the poster should I just Not really well. Yeah, she's talking about she's gonna use it She says I think I'm getting a grip on this new feature and I'd like to put something out there I came here to learn read write appreciate artists and offer my own perspectives I will however begin unfollowing the following members of FET non writers non artists non contributors I will unfollow you if you are merely here for the images or have 8,000 friends, but have nothing on your profile And there's nothing wrong with that But I don't need to see what you're doing if you are offended because I unfollow you feel free to private message me and we can talk it out Otherwise pervon fellow kinksters I bid you well and hope to not see the 10,000 pictures you've just loved or either the saintly pussy or the gobbie cocks See go I'm a little confused. Why are we wanting to say what you're when you're when you friend somebody right?

There are certain posts and certain pictures that only your friends can see right so most of my But they see all of their so if I want to be a friend with let's say mark Because and we can see each other's pictures and post and everything but I want to I don't want to see all the stuff Yeah, she eats up my feed because she's looking at shit all proving it shit all the time What she does and eight thousand was god I guess if you were somebody who supported FET life you paid for it Sure, you could use something that was called the gag feature. You could gag that person you would no longer see their stuff coming through the feed Well now the same is unfollowing yes, but now it's no longer there and now following can be done by everybody paid or not paid Okay, so I can have a friend, but I don't want if I don't want to see buggy shit I can go and you can still be a good idea. You can still be friends. So they won't let me tell you It's a little bit complicated.

So I I shamelessly pulled this information from our lovely fee who wrote a really comprehensive post on what you can do and what you can't do and because she's Permission to do it. I just went I want to give her credit because this is all shit I pulled from her I didn't do any of this work myself So you don't need permission to have to remove someone from your follow this You don't need to get permission like you do can't be your friend. You just follow them if they have their features turned on Oh, okay, so now that's okay So that's like because you cannot you can block them from doing that at any time when you go on your at page You will see these people are following me when they move when they transition the feature over It automatically said anybody you had as a friend as someone also that you followed Okay, but it like random people can follow me that I'm my friends. Yeah, but you can you can unfollow Like that is stupid.

No, you have to go through it if the people who you had his friends are automatically set as follow now Just did start out with from this point for me. Why are you just on the page? This is not happening bullshit All right, the thing is anyone can stock you anyway. They just go on your page every day It doesn't matter the following actually doesn't really mean anything space just means it'll pop up in their feet But if someone's actually stalking you they're gonna be on your page all day regardless.

They're gonna follow you physically If you look on your page right now on the If you click on anyone of your friends it will say we are friends and then a next if you don't want to be friends Now it also says they are following me on you can exit out of here. I mean, it's not following me I kind of I thought this was a whole different thing which I'm like, okay I get this topic This is now just like a technical bet life thing Which is gay because we left that life and we want to know about this and I think it's kind of a cool feature because there are a lot of people That do a lot of posting and a lot of ad nauseam posting and if you're somebody that likes to look at your feed like say Hey, what's going on in the world and there's 80 messages from perverted podcast, you know promoting the post your Cookie party then obviously that's not annoying you yeah So you can unfollow us and if you want to know what's going on you can just go to our goddamn page But there are some people that that's annoying because they write or they just they love every like They want to show their love and dedication to someone and so they look like a person has a hundred pictures I have to love every single picture there is a way around it Not really a way around it You go if you go on the explore page, which is where the K&P is if you notice on top It's not just game P It's fresh and pervy sure and what my friends are up to or something you can click on that and whether you're followed or not or whatever Anything your friend is doing will show up on that page So I would really advise if you really want to understand ins and out because there are some things that I didn't go into that Might affect if you want to follow someone or allow someone to follow you Go to Fiyasme's page and look at her post because she did some fucking work on that post and she went into great detail But what it means for you what it doesn't mean for you sure and and and and don't be a small town mentality and expect people to fucking read all your shit Here we get that you're gonna face Michelle you on Facebook Facebook. Yeah, it's not similar this following thing Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it's just like I love it when people are like did you read my post and I'm like what post and they're like You didn't read my post. I'm all yeah, dude.

This isn't fucking Mayberry You know, there's not three people in the town I you know, there's there's a number of people on my list I probably didn't see it don't be but hurt just don't be but hurt if you want me to read something say hey I gotta post would you read it and send it to me a link see how you guys know what no no let's talk about Michelle's movie Let's go I don't have a jingle what where's your guitar make sure I'm death to vanilla sex song? I totally forgot about that. I'm right. Did you have it on the credits?

Where's your where's your guitar? All right, I love your movie you wrote it directed it and started it It was really great, but I wondered how did you research BDSM to do this movie Were you already in the BDSM community? I was already in the community I basically I started to be threshold actually was my first club that I came to oh Discussions groups and then got convinced to go to play parties just to watch and got convinced you know You know you kind of like dip your toe in and then like little by little you go you go that's how we get you Yeah, right and it was cool I mean because it's it's like nothing I feel like that you see because I also when I started to get curious about BDSM I tried to watch as many movies as I could and I really couldn't find anything that I felt For traded it, you know in a way that that was accurate It was either I think kind of like fucked up dangerous dark scary or some movies were just like silly ridiculous and then they left at it And so I wanted to do a character driven comedy where we were laughing more at the characters Kind of a fish out of water story the characters feeling at odds with their surroundings and coming in terms of that and Like I mentioned over attachment to their identity making fun of those things as opposed to the actual SNM And so yeah, I like I agree with boogie when he said that this is a totally realistic look at kink and BDSM I mean nothing whatsoever to do with fucking 50 shades of gray So this was I really like this it's multi layered because it's talking about what like three different relationships happening Several different relationships and how they interact there's polyamory. There's bisexuality.

There's kink There's how you identify but I was most intrigued by your character What was the name Jamie Jamie and her inner struggles with she wants to be butch Uh-huh, but obviously that means she has to be the top exactly which is not the case the dynamics of a relationship How you identify are so varied and can be so subtle in kink and BDSM that that is a part that intrigued me The most is the struggle that she went through in saying well, I'm I'm butch I should I should be on top and when in reality she wanted to be on the bottom right right what seemed even more about the character Which by the way, I'm like good arc good character I really I really I mean I watch a lot of movies and and and obviously this one You didn't have the budget for saving private Ryan or something But you told a story and I really enjoyed that I watched that character grow I watched that character find out something that we teach all the time on the show and we teach all the time in the lifestyle and that is Don't let your titles define you or you're in don't let your identity stop you from living your life The character what I got out of it was the character Jamie Was inspired by her partner to bottom didn't mean that you would necessarily always be the top or the bottom But it became very clear because of the actions and the comical actions in the movie that this is what the dynamic worked out as And you saw the character like hey, I really feel like I want to explore this But we tell people a lot that it's based on the person that you may be Dominant to this person But this person may inspire your submission and that's what I thought was actually really cool that you saw this this character kind of Develop these struggles and like fucking you're whipping the bunny and all the sudden I don't even watch it but it was funny and it was just it was just amazing to see because we see that all the time here that people Come in and they go I am this or I am that and then we say you know you can just be a switch You can just be whatever that person inspires you to and that was the thing that I was like fucking right on I was I really I really enjoyed it is a theme that I It does affect a lot of us in the community. So I thought it was really is right on that you discussed it Well, but shit, you just say you don't want to spoil it for I was gonna talk about some of my favorite parts Should we not? No, no, no, no don't talk to me very very very very very very very She's like tell me about my movie Michelle is okay, but then why don't you know? Okay, hey if you want to go spoil it?

She's learning how to how to vlog so she's vlogging her is it a piggy or a bunny? It's a piggy or a pig? It's a pig stuffed animal Oh my god, that was so hysterical Which is we actually do that in the life of that That's what we do What was it? She was a cute piggy Take that And she talked to it Which is part of your character development as a as a dominant when you're learning how to top and I tell people all the time If I teach because that's what I did I had a weight bench like a you know I was padded weight and I put it on my bed and I stood it up and I put glods over it and I would practice my Vlogging and practice my vlogging and then I would do aftercare on the bench Oh cute and but you know what that's muscle memory and that's programming because you want people because sometimes you're excited about playing You're like holy shit, I'm playing and you forget stupid things like touch the person And you want the bench to call you the next damn straight that bench loved me.

That was awesome. No, so that was There's a couple it sounds like it was a great musical because they had my song in it Oh, that's what made it a musical like literally You could call it SM Sally the musical like Tommy the who SM Sally music by camp But there's actually another cool song and there wasn't me, but you know it was cool What was the first song to kind of grindy yeah, that's a black lipstick kiss when that plays during the fireplace scene Yeah, that was a fun song so was there any any part it was any of this based on true life like the struggle that um It's not really based on true life in a very literal in a literal way, but I think coming from the lesbian community even though it's non-king It's not even a little bit I've learned that There's a lot of them were that top-bottom stuff in a more non-kink way right so there's the assumption of if you look a certain way You're the top and so I I've definitely felt that sort of perception and bias of people making comments about my sexuality Not even knowing anything about it. You know what I'm saying and internalizing that and then in my first lesbian relationship years ago Feeling like oh, I'm the butch one so I have to strap it on people actually telling you that like you know If you're the butch when you strap it on and then being in that relationship for a number of years that we could actually be more fluid And then find out what we really liked and what worked for us We ended up switching roles in a sense I guess it's kind of loosely based on that a long time ago It's not that I ever had a personal struggle with that But I noticed that other women that identify as butch is kind of a thing for them because it's a machismo sometimes like so that is I don't know if I'd use a word prevalent but that is common or at least apparent in the queer community Yeah, I mean I think it's I think with the younger like people because I'm in my late 30s I think people younger than me he's becoming more fluid But I think like the sort of the butch fem culture There's some people that are very very like rigid with that and that's fine if it works for them Of course, but it's kind of this idea that you run up against those stereotypes of people expecting you to be a certain way And sometimes I feel that other butch women kind of will make comments to me about that I'm not tough enough for you know, whatever Why are you doing this? Like there's a grading system like you don't get to keep your butch dyke that you know union card or something?

Yeah, right if you're strapping isn't this big? But I think it's changing you know, I think it's changing I think it's more of a maybe a mindset like I say like maybe people my age and older I don't know I mean but I think it definitely resonates with people who aren't like people in the lesbian community that aren't familiar with King This whole play out with the butch fem dynamic it resonates for them because they get to see that dynamic But in this very sort of like because the extent is very much about the roles and so all you're doing is you're really sort of like highlighting what? Everyone gay or straight experiences in the relationship anyway, but they don't really talk about it very explicitly You know, you see a heterosexual couple and the woman quote unquote Where's the pants and it's not necessarily talked about in the same open explicit way that we do in the in the community? That's true in kink.

We're what we don't we talk things to death talk things into the ground? We do we do yeah And there's a lot of other elements to this I'm not there's other relationships having to do with bisexuality and polyamory and I'm not not talking about this Just what interested me the most of course was you flogging that piggy Yeah, I think in the other relationship the whole movie in general for me The theme was like pushing yourself outside your comfort zone so then the the subplot that you're mentioning about the polyamorous relationship Which is more kind of a you know, it's it is Polly, but it's also It's not necessarily like oh, this is the right way to do Polly because the premise of that is You probably see a lot but the premise of that is polyamorous bisexual guy He's dating a man and he's dating a woman He's like everybody let's have a threesome and neither one the gay man and the bisexual and either one of them One had the threesome, but they want to look cool and be like yeah, I'll do it And they think the other ones gonna back up out first so they played chicken yeah exactly Yeah, that's what a lot of comedy comes up because it's funny because sometimes in the q&a's I get asked these questions like oh Like yeah, it's not like always the right way to do polyure the right way to even do BDSM because even with Jill and Jamie's relationship There's miscommunications misunderstandings, you know those sorts of things But that's obviously where a lot of the comedy comes from that you wouldn't get everyone was like mature and communicative and etc You know, but hopefully it still paints the community and a good and authentic and realistic I think the fact that you have communication in your in your movie versus all the other ones Especially like the spooning part where you're like I'm supposed to be the big spoon Oh, okay, okay, my talking about my favorite parts, okay, you're not the big spoon. I'm a backpacking. I make a wishy nose.

Oh my god Biz SM Sally is it SM or S&M S&M S&M I keep saying S&M sorry, I abbreviate S&M with a little Andy sign Andy sign whatever that is I'm saying Super Saiyan Yeah, I'm confused. I like how you have like the sandwich like that's what was that once again? That's my penis when I'm really upset. It just it just pinches itself It's just out a little arm would that be awesome if I came up to you and my penis was there And you're like oh, it's right there and it's just a little arm reaching out from the side and put it on your arm You can see it on Vimeo or you can go to my website ballet diesel calm and it'll direct you there that is awesome Yeah, it's an M Sally.

Thank you very much. Thank you. We shall continue mixing Yes, what's going on in chat room? We're having a pretty serious discussion about my penis With my little one armpianus know about Kink and if you call it something else if more people would be willing to That is a great topic write that down because that is something that we need to cover on the show If you didn't call them dungeons if we didn't call it BDSM I mean kink is one thing because the word kink is very you know open and neutral but terms like BDSM They have negative connotations people have a thought instantly in their head and it surrounds that and we deal with this I or it's just the mist or the wrong use of the word but absolutely the wrong use of the word But like fetishes if they don't understand that there is a right and wrong or a more open flexible use of the term Are we gonna go up hill by keep try it's like atheism, you know the entire movement that has come forward to try to explain atheism is Well, it doesn't mean we don't believe that there's not a god But we believe you know we believe only in what is there's evidence to so basically agnostic So it's been like this whole thing to try to redefine this word that a culture has thought if you mean this it means this like Brat, you know, there's there's a lot of starting there's a lot of effort coming forward by the brat community to say no This doesn't mean assholes Do they stomp their foot yes, we do so the the question is would we do better at bringing people into the whatever you want to call it kink Lifestyles sexual alternative aggression alternative whatever you want to call it Is there is that make people not feel that instant?

Oh, I heard about BDSM. That's bad. I'm gonna go to hell No, that's why she just pulled her hair Then we'll call it the hair pulling hairstyle Are you into HP the hair pulling lifestyle? It also includes anal hooks is mentioned but and penises with a little arms We can talk about that now or we can talk about no no, but I just nixie please write that down that I'm doing good any other dirty sex stuff in the chatroom Not really right now.

We're on a real serious topic. Hey, man. I don't want to get I don't want to get in the way I do I want everyone to picture my penis with a little arm is Terrifying that really is only one arm. Why would it be why just one it just me to that?

Now a talks why not Women thinking of your penis in those terms I'm just sick. I'm tired. I want to hurl right now. I want to take it out.

Hey, guess what I did take it out What you did I just changed the topic on a spooky. Well, we discussed earlier. We're not gonna be discussing fair enough I love recording the show live Yeah, we're we got an email from anonymous they did not Anonymous asked if a male to female is dating a guy does that make her gay or straight conversely if a male Female to male is dating female does that make her gay or straight? This may have been written incorrectly, but anyway I really need your help on this one it would help me if you can talk with your crew on perverted podcast about this Why does this person need help with this because they're trans they're transitioning and what are you?

Traditionally, I mean if you're a guy who's transitioning to a woman, but you're in a relationship with another woman Does that make you less than that makes you lesbians? Yeah, cuz if you if you identify if you if you G.L. Gender lesbian I just made that up. Thank you very much.

No, no I Know anyway, so basically if if you identify as female then and you're in a same sex The same identifying sex relationship, then you would go with the homosexual version of it I would assume that this is a full transition if you're a cross-dresser or somebody who doesn't present as whatever You're chosen gender is on a regular basis. You're not gonna have this issue But if you have transition you no longer consider yourself a woman now and you are dating a woman your husband at least that's the way I see it what do you think Michelle? Yeah, I'm gonna see that way I like let's take it reverse like let's say you Were lesbian and you transition to a man and you still date women Some people even though the outside world might say well, you're in a heterosexual relationship There's something potentially inside of you that still feels queer and so some Transmen still identify as queer in that way, so I think a lot of it's also a personal Identity which I think which we get a little confusing because if it's a queer okay if it's a Female to male and they no longer identify as they identify as queer but not straight and that depends on person Because some like for example some trans men identify as a heterosexual man period not even as a trans man Just as a man and then some trans men identify as trans and as part of trans they're sort of a queer identity You know and a lot of people that transition for example They're sexuality changes, so let's say you were a lesbian you transition to a man a lot times They start dating other men because their queer identity kind of morphs and they're still attracted to women because that was kind of what they've always done As well so it's purely personal everybody's gonna be different and you have no choice but to really ask that person Tell me how you Scratching his head This is the type of shit that just goes up my fucking ass a mile of course like your lady cock my ass a mile stretches it wide open Why does it go up your ass a mile because fuck it other than a general you know hey like who fucking cares Oh, they don't fuck cares be who the fuck you are yeah I mean I understand when you're trying to you know if you let your identity Guide who you're gonna be I mean this is the whole thing with the fucking movie if you let that identity you're gonna be fucking miserable Your whole fucking life you mean if you let someone else's idea if you let their idea of what you are and Call yourself a fucking mama more but that's Absolutely true obviously the writer the person who emailed us struggling with this maybe they don't know exactly how but there are no rules Basically what I'm here. Give yourself permission to identify I mean everything and you said it the the correct answer is ask me who I am talk to me about who I am if I give you a label And I say I'm you know male sissy bottom toilet slave gender queer penis arm Then say what does that mean to you because I'll guarantee it means 800 things to 800 people especially that one So I just I see titles kill people I see them take them away from conversations and getting to know somebody I don't care what Michelle is an opener if I'm interested I mean as a general thing okay Well, what are you know okay great if you're looking to pick up on someone from a bumper sticker on their car great You have a rainbow on your car then okay I know you might be either gay friendly or okay, but the reality is is what's the better thing you go up to someone you say Hey, I see there's a rainbow on your car.

What does that mean to you now? I'm having a conversation with some He's not looking at my car. I'm getting you know what I mean Michelle What do you think yes, yes, and I think the question I think it sounds like it's written from the perspective of the person transitioning right Exactly. So I think but I think that's you know that person is basically however exactly labels identity It's whatever you feel comfortable with and don't feel like you have to box yourself in by that That's what I think yeah, and we don't know that much about the person who asked they may be living in a part of the country Where it's it's not acceptable to just choose what gender and what identity you have this person may be also very young And there or this person may just put a lot of attention and importance on what other people think for whatever reason They're struggling with this and there are people in this country and others who are struggling with that question themselves Especially in this thing age when gender fluidity is so out there.

It's no longer what it used to be at least not when I was in high school Yeah, I mean realistically now It's it's very much anyone like Kathy said ask because it just gets fucking confusing at times My message to the poster is this as honest as I can be as fucked up as my brain is Whoever this poster is an anonymous person you are okay who you are is okay. Your journey is okay being yourself is okay And how you identify is okay start with that and you're okay? You don't have to worry about this you don't have to lose sleep over this you can change your identity Any day you can be a lawn mower you can be genderqueer you can be gender fluid you can be male for beat just today Just know look in the mirror and say I'm okay, and I guarantee you you'll be okay That's how I think that's great. Yeah, and one thing I sometimes I tell myself around a lot of that like my identity is not a rule You know I mean like for example I identify as a lesbian but it doesn't mean that I can't find men attractive or I can't play with men or something like that So the thing is like your identity suits you to whatever extent that it suits you if that makes sense So once you identify something don't let it limit you and feel like you have to is that why you had that whole relationship thing in your Movie what you just said with a poly relationships.

Yes, I don't think so But with heterosexual Jill my character does have like dreams about penises and freaks out and so yeah She's kind of dealing with her like homo flexibility I guess you could call it whatever talks about like I'm 95% get you know like that character not that penis in particular Sure not that one Recording Okay, do we have an intro? That was me if you're new to explain your kinky side or the BDSM lifestyle don't worry We were all new at least once send your questions topics of kinky newness And we will do our best to help you without making you feel stupid this week's topic. I can't read big with my It just says The topic was why why does my partner want someone else to play with it's basically Oh another light topic move that that's my intro to Paulie like if you don't know anything about Paulie And you're getting into the kinksine and your partner wants to play with somebody else This is basically about Paulie play. This is a big topic This is a big intro to keep it like and this is 101 No, no, it's not everyone can do the things that everyone else can do.

Thank you. We're done. Let's now you're now Now you're starting to feel it. There's there's this is really this is for all intents and purposes mostly monogamous cisgendered We're living in right and so you are with this person and that is your chosen gender and you never stray from that at all So anybody who is wanting to do anything different is and you're in that relationship You're gonna start struggling especially if you're new to it.

Why does my partner suddenly want to play with a man? He's a heterosexual isn't he why does my partner want to play with anyone other than myself? We were married. I thought I was monogamous if you are new to the community This is gonna be a question that is a little confusing.

Okay, I would go down a list initially a quick list Why your partner may want to play with someone else number one are you a top or a bottom? What is your partner if you're both the same thing you probably will not be able to play together good opener? Good start that is a good start. It's guaranteed.

That's the case you're gonna want to play with two tops They're just gonna look at each other and go no or two bottoms and then you look at two bottoms and there you go you go No, I should do something awesome. We did that that would be so great. That's what TV Play then that's and it's actually probably play is a good way to and it's a good way to learn things too You can always I know boogie and I have and like mark has done a lot of stuff You've done a lot of things where you co-top is when it's more of a teaching experience where you're co-topping a person But their partner is with you and you're teaching them how to be able to top or bottom there You know to their partner better and teach them skills So that's a that's an aspect of probably play or say someone has no interest in in a particular style of play like blood play Say someone like the idea of blood turns their stomach and it makes someone to pass out But their partner really really is into it. I would suggest maybe that's not one of those things You suck it up for the partner you find someone else who's good at it the question that comes in most of these conversations And is why am I not good enough for you exactly and why do you want these other things from other people and that is really about your real Identity who am I is a person and is who am I as a person valid enough for this person and why would they ever?

There's narcissism in there in that depression there is narcissism I would call it narcissism, but it is because it's about you. What's wrong with you? Not everything that is about you is deemed narcissism. This is why I always every time you go to that word I'm like I use it for a lot of things.

I believe narcissism to mean this is about me I think it's more of an insecurity is what I would call it. It's a security. Yeah, or even guys We're taking it from like the kink level. It could just be someone can see it as something as we made vows to each other We made promises to each other and now this person is not holding up there into the bargain because their desires have changed Because the vows were created by people who were trying to control you By telling you that you have to be this way and that all humans can fit in this box and be this way Which we just have this conversation prior that a lot of people really struggle with that because they were told that humans must be monogamous This is God's way you are supposed to be manate.

It's Disneyland the prince comes and takes the princess and That's a fairytale. They call it a fairytale because it's make believe that's why it has the title fairytale But the reality is is that most people if given the chance if you were told if most humans this is this is factual if most humans were given the Opportunity to rip away all their religious social parental negative programming about you know Having your eye stray or if we are all just allowed to say hey if you are attracted to another person that is okay The majority of humans would at different times find different levels of attraction for different people So it's not about you being good enough or whatever that is just the nature of our sexual person Right if you're new to the community and you have been and I'm gonna use this word deliberately indoctrinated all your life into thinking This is the way life is you're supposed to be monogamous You're gonna have quite a struggle coming into any dungeon and here you thought that all my husband and I or my wife and I are gonna go in We're gonna explore our sexuality and suddenly your spouse or partner might be saying well I'd like to play with that person and if you're not prepared for it didn't even realize this is a possibility It's gonna start messing with your hand you're gonna start wondering why so I have met people who come to the dungeon and their partners And they are beginning to explore and it never once occurred to them that they might play with somebody else They're very it's just it was an automatic assumption that they're gonna play with each other and when that other part It wants to start branching out then the trouble begins I can see that being a show I can absolutely Because if you are like and there are people who are monogamous there are people who are happy with their person Yeah, and if both the partners are happy with it good for you, then you have no minority 60% divorce rate That's so there's there's usually reasons behind that it's a minority there is possible There are some people who have great bonding with one person. We're not saying that there are no absolutes Well, you're also using it marriage as the the key for monogamy. That's not necessary in this.

That's not in our society marriage That's not used I can be monogamous. It's just my boyfriend or girlfriend Yeah, so I mean that lasts for only a short time and then you're a serial monogamous that goes into another relationship Anyways about newbies yes newbies when it comes to new Captain Ranting There's no doubt that when you encounter this issue for the first time it is gonna call into question Some serious self-identity issues and it will require that you communicate and talk to you and actually It's a delve into your own psyche and find out what it is that is bothering you you may very well decide I don't want it to my own psyche. I like myself the way I am. This is it I'm not changing for those of you who do want to it's you have to do some Interspection and find out why is it bothering me how far do I want to take this am I willing to even explore and go down this path?

I have to say this is one of the harder things that new people that community might have to deal with because it it it has a Capability of really messing with your head and messing with your relationship. Mm-hmm. Have you ever I think I guess my thought on it is you know BDSM is a lot of things to take a great amount of skill and Everyone has sort of the thing that they you know how to do better than others and when you exploring this community with someone This lifestyle, you know, there's certain things like oh, I want to try fire play I want to try this your partner just coming in new is not gonna have the skill to do that and yes They could learn etc But sometimes I feel like playing with other people isn't necessarily about oh I'm really attracted I mean it could be I really attracted this person and I want to I want to play with that person but a lot of times It's just I wanted to try this thing on try that thing on try this thing Yeah, that's true that would be the easier thing I want to have a vlog and there's a vlogging expert right over there or even not even it's like hey guys if it's a nonsexual If it's if it's a sex that really hangs you up on it, you know, hey this person I want to feel these impacts I want to do this and this person's really good at it and they're safe I think that's also a key thing is finding you know people especially when you're new you're not you're not safe I'm just I'm just fucking say you're not safe. I agree because you don't know what you're fucking doing We know what you're doing so it's it's one of these things if you go to it you didn't know I'm not really we want to know if we were to be a story and we were doing a fucking story giving us the stories that illustrate How much you guys were all fairytales that I shared for impacting engaging of our names guys It's always good to make sure you have open communication know your boundaries before you walk into a place like this and discuss them with your partner Make sure you're on the same thing.

Yeah, I have to say that the couples are the the people who get through this relatively unscathed Are those who already have good communication skills because communication is key you can get through almost anything There are of course the old breakers But you can get through a lot if you're communicating well if you're not keeping things from your partner and from yourself That's just my point of you bitches. I think that was a great Taster a very big topic. Yeah, groovy newbies. We're not gonna go into great depth, but you know it's even better Oh My god, yeah, that's right.

You just unwrap that get it under ass. Oh my god They're doing it now see this is it I'm keep I didn't make this jingle for fucking shit So you know kidding you are here solid on this we are gonna do this more often That's that look at this ripped into it. Look she just now they're just fucking pros look at this getting up there They got a game plan Kathy knows where to put the fucking shrink wrap mark hasn't put her knee into a spikes head yet But I will say with these things you know, there's always that awkward like wait shit You can do sideways sides That is my preferred for male female is the side. Yeah You just go for it.

Yeah, this is good though because it's like full body contact like that. Yeah, sure sure okay good You know what first time just snuggling in she's like Michelle. Thank you very much for being here today Oh, thank you I was very and it was it was more fun that we didn't just talk about the movie It was great You have a lot of great things to say and you have a lot of great insights and wisdom about Everything that we're talking about so that's when we have guests on we really want you to be a part of the show Not just come in and talk about your thing but actually just come and like get to know you and get to know what you think about And I really I was really impressed you really have a lot of clear thoughts and it's really exciting I would love for you to come back when you either have something to pimp or do that so once again What's your thing to pay? S&M Sally you can rent it on video worldwide or my website Bally diesel calm Are you guys ready to mow?

Waiting for you get her done. Oh, what is that? I knew what I've never done Can't even see your face I can't Sorry guys, I can't be in the chat room Hot chicks go down on each other sorry And leave this topic oh my gosh, this is it just this is a way The top of our head between our thighs and just spikes big titties just hanging out there on the side I'm not gonna try to because it's a nice big thing. I'm like grabbing it from here.

Oh my god Nix is getting really close to the camera She's like a torn porn like right up the fucking booter man. That is just yeah No, no get the shot get the shot Michelle you are you having any like you know directing you know cuz you get all You want to direct right now? It's just itching to get in there and I feel like that's not necessary. I'm putting direction like quotations like the rich Oh my god, that's right.

I like how boogie gets like this like happy content like like little yoda hands From the pussy cookie show to the pussy cookies party to someone to the 69 episode the fact that we've done the 69 fucking episodes They're having a good time and I didn't think you can have that much of a good time with cling wrap Yes, okay I've never tried it and you can actually you know kind of put double and maybe put your fingers in surgical gloves So you can get a finger inside around and it's just you want to keep the main fluid off your face I actually I know um, it's good one of the ladies I Going Something big you actually there was a girl I know who doesn't do fluid exchange and she said the hottest thing to send her is a picture of a glove hand Nice I just like how she's eating like she's in the fucking wild like she's in the wild and it's a fucking fresh zebra killed You just compared We're in the Serengeti I Just had that there oh my god licking her lips mark is done you ruin the mood for her back to the Serengeti Go back you just fucking hunts you are a hyena what Thank you, there's a providing this perverted playground for us to record next you if you're the Los Angeles surrounding area visit threshold Thank you to all of our guests in our host to nixi our temporary chatroom monitor To the lovely mark and by spike for the show to our guest host Michelle And to love the abyss for coming back and being with us Another day I mean I'm not a lawyer Wiping her mouth or wiping I'm really not a boy or but that was really just beautiful I was how can you not look back to even going down on each other come on aggressively? They were there was a bite there was a question right there by it. I'm serious about that I was only immersing Which you know I will give her commitment points for yes, he was totally once again 69 lovely lovely babies Over to podcast audience. We will see you next week per show 70 We're gonna keep doing this and just amazing so many emails this week from new people new couples that are getting a spark in their relationship You know listening to us together.

It's just been a great fucking adventure and let's just keep doing this Old day old day. They're all clustered around nixi who is posting all those pictures. Oh my god That's a show. I don't want to end and it looks like it's still recording It's gone.

Sorry Michelle. We have to do this again