Show 74 " Hallow-erotica"

I have a squabster at my feet. What's a squabster? I love squabster. She's nibbling on my foot right now.

I see she's got some Foot nibble restraints. Yeah, a little bit of a collar there. Cuffed. She'd be restrained and is needing a little cushion.

That is a slave like I don't know what is this is a it's called roleplay Halloween. Oh really? Yeah, don't don't don't get used to this. I said why don't you be my slave for Halloween?

She's like okay Not all the time, right? She had much cuter voice than that. Oh, good mark. She looks like she's eating apple wages and she's got her laptop She's on the chat room.

She's in the chippy chat room and she's at her feet. Uh, okay Buzz I'm good. What are you? Are you ready to do the Halloween show with this crowd?

Of course. Is that? Is that very trestlevating of him? Quite?

Unger is a vampire. He's a boot vampire. Oh my god. This is gonna be great.

Let's just do this show. All right. Do you feel your sex life is quite lame? I've heard it podcast get that your desires might be strange.

Parker just you. Parker to Parker. I'm joined the kinky world of the day. Parker to Parker.

Wow, what is that? Halloween. Hello and welcome to the perverted podcast. The show where we explore the spooky adventures of the kinky lifestyle of sex and perversion.

Goating live from the official Love Live in North Hollywood, California in front of absolutely nobody. Nobody tonight. Except Mark at your feet. At 20 feet for lunch.

I was hoping so many people would be here to see her play this out. And yet none are here. None are here. Our perverted audience has deserted.

They have deserted us. But she's so cute don't know aren't you? Why? Well, I'm Kathy and I am not a biz.

And I am a doctor. Check it out. Why are you wearing your fucking job? I can see your nutsack bingling down.

Because I'm a kinky doctor. It's fucking Halloween. Kathy. I'm just wearing my regular jeans and shirt.

No, you had a mask. I had a mask. We're doing it. This is the Halloween show.

Show 74. Goddammit. It is Halloween today. That's why.

And Pajama Ratica. So we mash them together in true pervert style. And hollorotica. Hollorotica.

Thank you. Thank you very much. It is incredible. Hunger.

But did we have anybody in the chat room? Yes. On Halloween people are in the chat room. How many people are there?

There's about 10. Oh my god. 10 people that have just as little of life as us. That's basically what it comes into.

Well let the people in our perverted podcast chat room know that we love them. For future references perverted podcast, you can go to the pervertedpodcast.com website. Click on the chat room and go join the chat room at what time is it Monday 8 p.m. Pacific Standard Time.

And then you can join Hunger and Mark in the chat room and all the incredible. Kathy what did you do this weekend? I had a weird weekend but I hosted domination. Halloween domination party.

How does that look pretty busy? Oh my god. It was so awesome. It was a costume contest and there was I mean it was just spooky perverted spookiness everywhere.

And it was great. You didn't win the contest. Oh would that be boogie? Mark and Earl the girl.

Because I had Mark and Earl the girl here in the love lab because you know I can't play a domination because it's a female lead scenes only. And so we were playing in here and doing fire playing and stuff like that. And then they're like we're really hungry. Can we just go into domination and see?

I saw you guys creep in. I'm all, hey, don't bring your dumplings in here. So I put like two of my long shirts on each of them and then they came in and they got all excited that it was a Halloween party but they're just literally a nothing but like a long boogie dress shirt which by the way if you're a dude that's totally hot to see cute chicks in your in your dress shirt. So they're like munching just like yeah fuck yeah dude this is awesome.

And all of a sudden they're like wow this is a Halloween and somebody's like oh there's a contest a costume contest and I'm just sitting in the kitchen like okay let's get back to the and like where they go? Where did Mark and Earl the girl go? And I go into the main room during domination and up there in the contest is Earl the girl and Mark and I'm like what are you doing? We're not even here.

What are you doing? They're like he and they go through the whole line of people and they're like all these cool costumes or whatever and here's all of a sudden two cute chicks in men's dress shirts. That's adorable. And Mark they go okay so who are you and she goes I'm slut one and Earl the girl goes I'm slut two and everyone claps.

My god. Because everybody I guess knew what two cute girls and men's shirts signifies. So they I thought oh my god you can't win. You just walked into the party.

It's cute. All the food and win the contest. Yes of course they can't. So somebody else won.

I forget who won. Nitzi won. Nitzi won. That's right.

She was like zombie. She was weird like she had. She was living dead girl. Living dead girl.

But she had like these and mine on her. It was really. Yeah. Well I'm glad she won seeing as she was at the whole party and just crashed.

I would have loved it if Mark won. So bold. So bold. Hey I was that party.

She can win. She can do anything she wants. You on the other hand. I had to stay in the love.

I would have but they needed to eat and so my my supply my little refrigerator supply of chocolate pudding and rice pudding became you know though they ate 20 of them. They needed some real food. Real suction. Yeah so for me it was cool though because it was weekend to fire.

So I had Mark's friend early girl was over and we don't have sex you know because I'm not that way with her. But you just play with her? Yeah but she wanted yeah it was just a little experiment. Cool.

So and she wanted to try fire play which of course I love doing fire play. So that was really exciting to just see how hypnotized she got with the flame and everything and it was it was really cool and she's like okay that was actually a pretty pretty cool. I'm like. Corruption.

And so then the next night we had another of our friends come over and I did fire play again. And so I started getting all into just it's been a while since I done fire play and just you know it's so nice to have the love lab now with the massage table and everything in here and that even though I'm not in threshold because there was another renter going on that night. It was so amazing it made me because I lived in the motorhome for five years. So to go from like oh you know I don't really have my own place to all of a sudden really feeling that that we have a place now not just to do the podcast but I can actually live and play and do stuff like so I got all like you know kind of like saying the Jefferson songs moving on up you know.

Well moving on up you know how many times I'm saying that fucking song Kathy and then literally within a year where I'm going on back. So it's my theme song and I know every time I sing it that eventually the bottom is going to drop out but it is pretty exciting. This is why you're my friends because that is my story too. Yikes!

Away! Hey! Daffy Duck jumping off the branch next tree next tree next tree that is Kathy and I's perverted podcast life god damn it and our listeners are all entertained by it god damn it and then oh oh I'm gonna play I did a jingle for you know King and Princess were here last week so which was awesome we had fun we made pancakes the next morning for him and I made a giant pancake and then you know Princess put it on her pussy and took a picture of it it was fucking awesome and because that's what you do with leftover pancakes you have all this left over makes you make a giant pancake and then you put it you know either on your head or your pussy or you sit on it you know whatever because that's food play and Kathy hates food play but anyway they they have a podcast a royal pair and they're like can you do a jingle for us and they paid you and they made the big mugs I did so hey they're on I think they're on iTunes and they're on iTunes and they're basically and they're and they're just sitting there bed and kind of talk about their experiences and it's great the more podcast the merio let's get them out there and now they have a jingle. yeah all the time to be dealing with the royal pair you see what they did that I see what you did Princess gave me no information I'm like tell me you have a slogan do you have something she's like yeah but we do a show yeah you have a catchphrase really they pretty much just lie in bed they're at top cats crawling on them that is awesome that is why don't we do our podcast like that I'm not getting on the bit okay I'll tell you that right now why not because it's on cinderblot it's comfy are you gonna tell them about bizbaz bizbaz is coming up this Saturday at threshold one to seven if you are in the north hollywood or los angeles are surrounding areas this best stands for bizarre bizarbizar it's one of our three yearly fundraisers it is wall to wall vendors kinky vendors right before christmas come in get all of your kinky christmas need kinky kiss and say there'll be a sampler booth sampler booth where teach a couple orientations getting people you know learn about the lifestyle things like that it's an amazing day and there's some great deals to be had and some amazing vendors I mean really great big party that night big party after that you know you're hosting yes we are hosting god damn which means that we're gonna have a long day we started about seven in the morning and then we finish about three a.m.

the the next day so it's a long day but it's a lot of fun and helps me forget my fee fee shame what what is this you know i didn't want to talk about this but you know part of it for me to not make an asset myself or be vulnerable for a little bit about this is under anything going on in the chat room that you want to talk about we're doing this before fat life stuff by the way uh we they are watching scenes from the rocky horror picture show because we're talking about it very good very good not the very good youtube thing going we're watching the scenes and talking about it and that's pretty much all that's happening oh cool riff raff is my favorite rocky horror character i'm a jenna i'm straight right that's right used to be magenta i did dress up as that is hunger favorite rocky horror character i don't know perfect oh that's mark she doesn't even know what it is she's like what she's watching rocky road because i'm watching it now on the chat we're going to be clear well they're good that is good um yeah no my fee fee shame uh so we know we're we're linking up with us explanations with dr lindsey doe and we talked about the fact that we did um the video with her the bdsm video here at threshold and i taught of one of her videos that's hopefully gonna be released in the next week or so so she has this awesome channel where she explains everything about sex she's a sexologist and it's incredible and just so open and just the type of things you think young people should learn because she talks about how to insert a tampon what is your vagina what is puberty what is masturbation all of these different sex education things from somebody that's not a predator like me um so you can actually feel comfortable learning from her so she has one that's called how to make a toy vagina is it a vagina or uterus it's a vagina it's a toy vagina okay for masturbation and she teaches about 11 different ways i think it's got like 600 000 views she teaches like uh how to make bake vaginas so you can masturbate with them and so i watch the video and and i'm like huh but like you just take a towel roll it up with your tube of toothpaste and a surgical glove and then you pull out the tube of toothpaste and put the thing on the end and wrap the surgical glove over the end put lubin it and fuck it oh no and boogie well Kathy um he'd been a long day and uh like i said i don't have sex with her little girl and she's fucking hot so i was like all kind of repressed there you know something with mark but uh and then the next night was kind of a new lover so it was it was you know not really rare it was you know it was beautiful and you know really learning each other so i just i didn't i still little pent up so i said you know what i'm gonna make myself a fifei i guess it's called a fifei when you roll up a town fuck it so with a surgical glove and lube so i did and i made it like with bow towel too big and then so the big old fat vagina stuff i had myself a fat pussy i like this but then the thing was too tight and i couldn't get my dick in it and it goes limp and i'm like this is awkward this is so awkward and i'm just trying to fuck this towel and it's not gonna so i'm like okay put on some dirty fucking cartoon beastiality or something so so i'm like going back and forth and finally i make the right town the right combination and so i do it and all this and i'm like oh my god this actually feels really good and and i finished in the phoebe oh the shame of it all and that's what happened no really that was exactly what happened i don't know what the hell happened but all of a sudden i felt like i did when i was a christian and that i was doing something that i shouldn't be doing because she talked about it so naturally like yeah you roll this up and then you play with it and she had no judgment in this fucking video none she just said you know you do this and you play and she works with some oversex people and she's like hey you need to get into yourself and your masturbation she was like really not unjudgy about it but in my head i still had all this dirty judgment about doing something like that and so i felt like you know kind of like i shouldn't be experiencing something that feels good with myself like somehow you're a fucking pansy or like you're like i don't know gay or whatever fucking schoolyard voice came in my head when i was a kid that somehow said doing something like this having sex with a blow up doll or a sex doll or a fleshlight or something women of course i you know we encourage women to masturbate and explore themselves and it's beautiful and it's sexy and it's wonderful but for some reason if a guy enjoys himself a little too much it's the butt of all these jokes then that's yeah that's somehow shameful thing and it really confused me because she made it seem so cool and then i started feeling real guilt and shame so you know to get through it i had to try to do it again so because that's the solution so because i was still horny and i'm like it felt good why shouldn't i feel good why should i feel shame about wanting but in bed i'm a giver i really want to give i want to create a arousal in that environment but for myself i'm really i don't care if i come you know i i rarely do and so it was really it was an awkward feeling to go hey this actually feels good and there's nothing wrong and it's all about you yeah bringing your self-pleasure not someone else yeah so it was good that is um it was weird honest shit there boogie so i don't know what that is what i can look at you know i don't think dr dr lindsey's gonna take any of my phone calls you know i saw your video and i did that video with you and i hope it works out really well for you by the way i have some masturbation issues i like to talk with you about she's gonna be all oh watch the video elk clicker like that life is a monkey kooky nutty kinky place with no shortage of godshot avatars and chicks would come over the face yeah and they got groups and events and shit like that if you're interested for your peace of mind please know that the author of every post we talk about it specifically granted us permission to do so what do we got what do we have a post from another name i love pop a p spaces and more challenges this is a good one you ready yeah i am there was once a time when a person knew to any community college new job alcoholics anonymous or the king community was expected to have a modicum of courage and resilience to be a productive member they had to set and maintain boundaries and communicate for themselves and if they couldn't hack it eventually things didn't work out and they dropped out pretty simple you don't do your job in the workplace you get fired you are uninterested in doing your assignments in college you fail don't want to talk to people in a social group you remain alone why should king be any different somewhere though for some reason bdsm gravitated to an attitude that everything must be shaved cornered and child-proofed the covers needed to be locked in the playables needed to be posted bold and crayon trigger warnings disclaimers and negotiate negotiations ad nauseam precede too many lecture seminars or places who are these people that need the safe spaces and why are they looking for them here when and how did the bdsm community become so fragile i i i i look we have a new toy look at this we have a new toy that we got a perverted paul cast bullhorn oh it's so good way to attention this would be a good time to start your own fucking party repeat start your own fucking party and that is all that's your opinion obviously okay first and foremost uh the points about people being too fragile and overly PC at maryon board with him totally on board he had a couple points that um it's really hard to hear someone kind of and it wasn't made as a rant it was observational he wasn't aggressive or whatever it wasn't really it was wrong about a a though because i go to that fucking and people hold your fucking hand you aren't even capable to wipe your own ass after the time when some people come into a so there is a lot of coddling there are a lot of people who need that extra coddling there are people in this lifestyle that do need that extra coddling and the wonderful thing that you can do is start your own party if you are more mature and a veteran player by all means start an edge play party we have people that do that here and it says right on the door this is an edge play party this is not for beginners if you're going to come into this party then no you're gonna see fisting and hook pulls and screaming and rate play and heavy things start a party because if other people want to have a party that is geared towards more people because we have three kinds that we two kinds that we do have threshold we have kind of the medium party where there's a lot of edge playing there's some fisting and stuff like that but we are a little protective over our new people because we advertise ourselves as the place to go for new people so that means you do have people that come in that have maybe only heard about us banking and they don't know what the hell they're supposed to see when they walk in and if it's overwhelming for them then as a dungeon that says we want to be there for people that are coming into this community and help them in that transition then we do have a responsibility to hopefully prepare them as best we can while at the same time letting them know this is kind of how it goes but anytime someone sits in a chair and tells somebody like me or you who runs eight parties a month and gets off our ass and actually hosts these different parties that we believe in this is how the format should be my first reaction is hey man all you need to start at your own party is a resentment and a coffee pot just say i don't like the way it's done get off your ass and go start a party and make whatever rules you want at your party post whatever signs not allow new people tell them to run away and fucking hide make people wear funny hats start that party well i will say that if you're more interested in what pop up yes i would suggest reading the whole post because as is the issue with every one of these post that i choose i have to choose a really tiny amount of a huge post and he does actually address a lot of those issues okay so i just go to munch's and yeah exactly but surprisingly i am not of the same opinion as you on this you know i'm one of those people who were gonna talk about that in the second i because what i got from his post was he was talking about the extreme the extreme coddling that happens i'm not talking i i would say that any one of these things that he mentioned that you took out one or two or three and said we do these things up we post the rules we make sure that that people tell the dm before they do edge play just so they give them the heads up i don't consider that what he called negotiations disclaimers ad nauseam he's talking about extremes where you can't even walk in someplace without and and the reason i think that we don't maybe see that that we you and i don't uh aren't that upset about it is because here in l.a. we're the exception threshold seems to be the exception alcohol is allowed at other places there are in some of those places there are no dms the rules are minimal so we're considered the the rule crazy people yeah but we're not compared to what he was talking about the control that we have this thing seems we have but but i think what party is this guy talking about well obviously anybody who writes a post is writing things that are personal to them according to their area and i can only assume and i've read i know that you don't do that much reading on on fat life on on the kinky and popular but i i do a lot of reading sure and i'm always surprised at how many people post about this similar thing but not always uh against it but saying that their place vets people and their place goes over the top to make sure that everybody is safe and taken care of jeff moch happens to be one of those people who if i'm not mistaken runs that he runs the kinky kink event or something and he they uh vet people i could have this wrong but i have read that they go to they go to great measures to make sure that their people are taking care of and i think that that's what this poster is talking about so you're saying that's not good to vet people i think that there is a limit beyond which you are going overboard and you are doing too much see i think that there is no limit if you want what you want i think it's ridiculously retarded to tell people how to have their kink i think if you want your kink this way and you think that that that party is over coddling don't go to that fucking party and i i i'm not going to start your own party right start a party so we can have everybody in there because what kind of bugged me about the thing is he's on the the camp like do we even need to tell people about kink do we need to go out there and let people know or should we just wait for them to somehow magically uh you know kind of come in and not do dangerous things you know yeah but you know you we have two completely different views so you're on the board with this guy right that says no we we don't need to go out and evangelize for kink and we should just kind of stay here and just wait for them to come to us and find us so then people like me who at age 23 tie up his wife and his honeymoon and leave her alone in a fucking hotel room and a fire happens and she dies which we read about all the time these types of stupid mistakes happen because i didn't know there was a community because nobody fucking told me right but i will there is a reason but you don't have to be that person kathy no no i don't and i've no problem with someone else doing i think that's the difference is that i'm not telling you hey but you shouldn't go and do that well go for it if you want to i just think i don't want to do it and i i actually have an opinion that it's it's kind of waste of time but just as as a biz told me a couple of weeks ago when she said when i was complaining that when i went about mentors when you're when your child how is a child supposed to know this stuff because we start to learn our sexuality when we're that young and she said jokingly you know back then catty there was no internet now there is the same is true now i started in 2007 finally after so many decades of my life exploring bdsm and all i had to do was google bdsm north hollywood which is where i lived and bam not just threshold but all these others can't do so it's not like i understand that but you were looking for bdsm what if and let's take a big what if the 15 or so percent of people who have strong kinky tendencies but don't even know what kinky is they don't know who they are until you go hey all they have in their fucking head is what the media tells them which is some guy rapes some chick and they were on fat life and that's all they get so they go well obviously that's not my lifestyle but wow i'm really curious about you know kind of this like play or i want to do this role play or i get you know really excited fucking fiefeese on the you know from a sexual nations video they don't even know that they are kinky so somebody being out there and saying hey by the world there's this entire world that exists it's amazing we learn how to communicate with each other we learn how to be ourselves and sexually explore ourselves in a way that doesn't have judgment and shame hopefully as long as it's legal and consensual and we can do all these things and when we go on panels to these colleges and you don't do a lot of these panels with me when you go to these colleges the responses because the teacher makes them right what do you think the overwhelming response is i never even imagined that there was a whole community that that this was available to me right that this mindset was available to me so for people like me and you and this guy don't have to be a part of that but for people like me i ask the question when i get out of bed do i want to live in a world where people don't lose their job for being kinky do i want to live in a world where people don't lose their kids in custody battles for being kinky do i want a day when the media won't be considered relevant if they blame our lifestyle every time a kinky person does something criminal and to me what gets me out of them doesn't have to be you or this guy but what gets me out of bed every day in my shitty little fucked up world is i suffered greatly as a young person confused repressed and told i was bad for everything to the point where i'm 48 fucking years old and masturbating with a fucking towel gives me guilt and shame because nobody took the fucking incentive to look me in the eye and go hey you know what your sex is okay let's explore that makes me an evangelist for kink right and i don't i'm just gonna say this this is a different age this is an information age that it has nothing to do with the time that you and i grew up in i also think that those you make comments like we're just gonna you're saying that we should just sit back and wait till these people magically find us there's no magic about it all you have to do in my opinion is just a little bit of you know a little bit of research not if you know it's ex plus explanations um so many things on you too explanations is a person going out into the world and saying people need this information and doing it for the person who only has to sit there behind a computer screen and try a bit into you yeah i don't i'm not saying we need to go out on the streets on in fucking hollywood and pass out flyers to come to our kinky church i just i get those 15 percent you're talking about who have no idea i i there's only there's a limit to what i believe we need to do as a kink community there's a limit i completely respect that i completely respect this guy wanting a party that is a little let it was a little more edgy because believe me i get there's there's uh fucking lizzy um has her party the social life party which is specifically game to be extra safe no sex no full nudity and there is a certain group of people who feel very comfortable in that party i don't go to that party because i want to play harder but i enjoy the fact that wow it is great that somebody takes that initiative for that demographic of people and then there's people who we know play really hard and would never come to a threshold party and people complain about thresholds rules and we're kind of in the middle and i think that's great that there are people here that are having that party and then the people that are extreme as long as it is legal and consensual i don't care if you cut someone's fucking arm off that's well that's not legal okay but you know what i mean if that's between you two i'm so glad you said that if that's between you two i'm not good you want to punch a chick in the fucking face and that's a consensual relationship irish fucking what do they call it irish fucking goggles or whatever you know there's people who do it that's not my kink but there are people that do it and as long as they've worked out and and communicated i think they should be able to have their kink and be adults and be consenting but i i really and maybe this guy just trigger me because he asked that question and whatever my first thing to this guy is great fucking post go have a party yeah and i happen to be more uh along i happen to believe threshold is the perfect middle ground this is why i love this club so much because threshold is not go crazy i think comparison to a lot of of clubs in the in the greater los angeles area we are way more safe than others simply because of the whole dm issue and the alcohol issue that alone makes us safer so i'm comfortable with what we do i would not be comfortable if threshold started doing even more and creating all kinds of safe spaces and rules unless it was a specific party then i would like like like let's see the social party yeah that's right it's a private rental so she gets a handle problem with that i'm talking about threshold yeah in general yeah i wouldn't i wouldn't want i wouldn't have fun here yeah exactly so that's really what it comes down to that you get to have your type of party papa smurf what does his name uh let's not get mean i mean i mean oh it's not what you want to pop a smurf is my fucking hero i thought it was i whatever oh my god no i want this guy to have his party and take this energy because it is a valid point because papa p you and a lot of other kingsters feel this way yeah you guys should group together and start up another party right but i don't know because i love threshold and i love this so you're okay here but this guy can do it this guy can just say hey you know what i have a feeling and i think there's other people that have a feeling and start and he actually mentioned that in his very long post talking about what he would love to see is a kind of the kitty party he mentioned and so he's he's being very balanced about it again i'll say i chose this very specific portion of his post to discuss but i knew that this was gonna be tough because you and i've discussed this before you and i are of different opinions when it comes to being king evangelists and so i thought it is great because the listeners get to benefit from two different points of you here i love you can't i love you too i love you papa p get off your ass and fucking start a party yeah anytime i see so i i'm sorry i get i'm volunteer crazy you kind of are you doing so we just so we do stand up you know we that's that's the first answer i give to anyone hey if you don't like something free country man get up and do it get it done i can't wait to hear about your party can't wait to hear about the success and how you have something that works for you and your group i'm i'm excited to hear about that papa p i'm putting it to you motherfucker i'm putting a challenge on you you because i don't want to start another party i want to do less parties all right what's the other topic uh i actually have something in between don't we what yeah you oh my god that's right it's holla ronika holla cool attack it's horror music it's jolly we can't be like i'm in the cemetery do i go first are we doing wait what's the topic of this i could wear wolf sex oh we're wolf sex okay you go first because okay i cou um he's there behind me warm saw fur against my back growls and nips my I Get back pork That was seven blowing the werewolf Blown a werewolf Doesn't know what to trim. I don't care if you got air just fucking trim. Oh moon dweller moon howler like and throat Like it's alright.

What's the next topic who else can I fucking piss off? I know really I feel shame wait wait Yeah, I don't know Yes, we get to talk about the cage again the cage got co they've been growing yeah, they've been growing there They're you know, it's still you know, it's still relatively small, but they're growing which means we're shit Exactly that's basically it we I had to wait a stop it just for sure well suspended until we could get a bunch of hosts now Well the owner who's absolutely awesome and cool and very supportive of pervert podcast has you know had to do work I actually eat a bit of rent till the site makes you know well He make they make money off the cage in Israel because that's where the cage came from But so yeah, it's growing I mean just like I say more than Mary. That's more sources of information. They're different than fat life I love that life and it's great to have just let's get them out there man.

That's right So this is from one of their forums the someone named brown Rode a post question for the form called sub rat in which he says my sub is a bratty sub and I'm having trouble training her She purposely breaks rules to get punished because it turns her on is that normal behavior for a bready sub? I could use some advice on how to This topic is that topping from the bottom? No, you know what? This is magic first off to the who is it Brown Brown by the way the most interesting Kink name it just what's your name?

Like death like an you know Brown that's fucking noble shit man. That is I don't give a fuck Brown listen to me This is an amazing time for you. This is an amazing time and is an honest question I just want you to know don't worry about it This is this is very normal in new kind of discovering your ds side and discovering your partner And what is going on this type of little power struggle is totally normal for somebody who has a dominant has not yet completely Grazed what your plan is and that's part of dominance. It's saying I have a plan I always have a plan this is my plan and you look for somebody that's interested in your plan Hopefully there's a higher calling or whatever But it's amazing that you're having this time because you guys are just feeling each other out because no Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you for winning this out What you guys are going through right now is an understanding that as a dominant top daddy whatever you're going to be Nobody owes you that respect. So this is the challenge phase So sometimes bratty is topping from the bottom and Kathy will probably talk about that sometimes It's just playful to where they just want to get more spanking and that's the dynamic you mark and I do that all the time But some of it it has a more serious issue, which is Are you putting a plan forth is it a good plan? Is it something that your submissive can see a future in can they see themselves growing?

Can you let them know you have your their best interest at heart and that you are going to take them because if not You're going to get a lot no matter what you're going to get power struggles Nobody almost nobody is you know a natural twos submissive Most people will have a challenge and that's part of the excitement is that they get to find that challenge and you get to earn that respect That you will find that they are more willing to go along with your plan once you have a plan right I actually totally agree with you because he's new to kink and If he's enjoying it fuck what anybody else says because there's some people who like that dynamic you do it a lot It's fine. You are a shit-talking brat of brats You know that I do that to you just to get on your nerves. That's true. We don't have that bratty We don't have that much of a power exchange.

No, we don't you are not my submissive If there is one thing that you are not you are many things to me And I don't mean to tell me what to do No, so but when I play with the guy I play with it's a huge part of our play because we both find it hilarious and we have a ball doing it but we did communicate a lot in the beginning we still communicate a lot we talk about that a lot and We have gotten to know each other well enough to I can tell it when he he's drawn that line in the sand And now things need to get serious and it happens in the middle of the scene And then it's gone in the next few minutes are fine And then it happens again And I love going back and forth between that and and and we had to learn that and it works for us And so I would say the same thing to him. Don't relax enjoy it's a fun challenge and and you You still push those boundaries, but you got to a level with creative explorer that you do respect the Fuck out of I've never heard you talk about anyone with more respect than you talk about him for his mind his plan his ability to communicate with you Has earned a place where you trust you can let go with him and that's not saying I'm not a submissive but from everything that I've heard from submissives a submissus wants to feel safe enough to let go with you Because that's very vulnerable it vulnerable is not something I like me and I push it away as far as I can and because of that reason I've never really found anybody that I will ever commit to to that level or submit to In the way that I have with him trust for me was that open door So the more trust that I found in him Oh my god the easier was but that takes time in the beginning It wasn't like that and for Brown and his girl I would say same thing just go with it and communicate when something slips sideways discuss it and move on from there And and I in that question I didn't hear anything about what it was that he wanted if he said and I really hate that she does shit Sure, then you would have nowhere to go, but I'm the I feel the same way you did find out He needs to find out what he wants right down a list Brown do this you'll take a chance from pervert a podcast Make a list because I've done it and said as this dominant character when I'm in this place What do I actually need from a person that I have a power exchange with you know is it? I need you know you to worship my God cock You know that's and why because it strokes my fragile ego because I can be very insecure about things So it's nice when when somebody who is in a power exchange with me builds me up It makes me feel good about myself. It makes me feel that they care about me and blah blah blah So go don't just write what you want But write why and once you do that you'll be able to look at that person and go what is this person capable mark?

And I have an incredible relationship where there is lots of bratty shit talking She is free to do that and then there is a line where I let her know this is you know This is now I need serious time, you know, I have a plan and I want to follow this especially when she gets with other girls Oh my god that ging up on me. It's fucking hilarious and I let it happen until there's a point Yeah, there's always a line and I think in the cage there was great comments I mean right away people just right away said don't worry about it here's set a plan But what was the most important thing is don't punish a masochist with a spanking? It's just not an effective way It is called negative reinforcement they are going to because they're trying to control you and so that's okay You just need to know that I'm not going to play with you right now If you're serious about this behavior is starting to get a little a little much Then you say you know what we're gonna stop right now And I'm gonna you know you go take some time and calm down or you know sometimes give corner time or whatever you know Whatever your dynamic says is okay that you guys have agreed on and then let them come back when they're ready to be in a more Submissive mindset that's great topic. I get excited because man It just reminds me you never I never have to stop treating each Individual that I have an interaction with with an understanding that they don't owe me a fucking power exchange and every time I Read this I realize it that just because I'm awesome just because I'm a love card just because when my penis works It fucking makes imaginary angels sing from the heavens just because She's at my feet looking up at my nutsack Even though that is wonderful and I have some good confidence in myself now finally Nobody owes it to me and I better be willing to show them that I have a plan and can create a safe space for them to be vulnerable Great time.

Great. So I'd like to know what's going on in the chat Yes, what is going on? We are talking about fire play actually, so oh my little conversation and watching pieces from comedy musical horror films nice There's Horrors In the angry and should musical it was a musical comedy, but I don't know if it calls them to the horror I don't know I don't even fucking know I don't know I never saw it I just know it was about somebody that had a bad sex change operation It was left with like an inch of sort of penis left Oh my god, is that what that's all about? Yeah, I will so it was it was like a big transgender kind of community I don't know if it was good or bad, but I just remembered I didn't want to watch it.

Just said that's good for you Yay team don't want to be honest. Oh my goodness Even though it was about just honest you didn't anything We talked about it. Okay, so bounded to the Sun wrote to us. I remember that name.

Yes, you do I remember that says I am a proud and dedicated Pee Pee Zombit. Whoo I binge the show at work most afternoons I love getting wet and hot listening to spanking skeinings featured orgasms in a room full of people who have no idea What's going on in my pants? Good girl in general? I don't like podcasts I'm easily irritated by inside jokes poor good production quality and incoherent inefficient poorly planned content I agree you are only those things in the most accessible and fun ways.

I Should have read this Thank you question mark. She says thank you boogie for rambling and entertaining ways Thank you, Cathy to this for keeping him on track and thanks to all the wonderful people who donated equipment for good sound quality I had to write today because I just got to the one-year anniversary episode I almost cried at all of the wonderful things you had to say to each other and I had to tell you yes I second everything and I appreciate you all although going forward. I'm gonna miss Kathy's annoyingly great rap Thank you Suck I never think podcast suck but you guys suck for sure don't don't let it get out don't get too carried ahead Perverted podcast does suck ass but in kind of a charming way You know what that has to be our new tagline perverted podcast inside jokes poor production quality and incoherent inefficient Why do I need to advertise it? It's apparently well transmitted to our business.

That's great. Thank you I think she's there. I think she sent in a featured orgasm Did she I think that was her we just got a new one or play the next featured orgasm Well, that was a wonderful email I like my fucking ass off because it's kind of true We are half losers and that's what makes us so funny to listen to so many four shows. I really thought we would we would be kind of mainstream We're not every show every time I edit the show I go this time this time We're really gonna we're really gonna just pound that fucking just nail it hit the post and then we get an email like this We're not hitting the post Oh spooky show spooky show of horror this is dirty trick or treat Yeah, I'm gonna go first.

Here's my high coo 575 Yeah, whatever Teenage dream door knock sexy pirates answers nude trick or treat treat I Never actually happened never actually put every year you just you think this is gonna be the day Yeah, this is gonna be day with a hot naked woman who wants to teach me things I probably would have peed my pants and run away But just the thought never never happened. Yes, go turn off the lights Draw the blind so they won't come got you treat right here Good boy, shut up. God damn it. Oh fuck.

I don't have it. Wait. Hang on. You don't have the way for you didn't all that Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I know the show's supposed to be tight.

It's okay, okay For you What was that about in cohere? Okay, it was 74 fucking weeks ago That's pretty funny all that prep work we were doing Shut up, I was supposed to say something I'm a bit here If you are new to exploring your kinky side of the BDSM lifestyle, don't worry. We were all new at least once and apparently still Said your questions and topics of kinky unison. We will do our best to help you without making you feel stupid shut up What is this one about it?

How do I know what kind of submissive I am are there different levels? Go see Brown. That's the answer That is a confusing thing for new people because what type of some yeah, because first of all I mean I think that we can all agree I'm assuming that generally speaking if you had to put it into levels you would say that at the bottom end would be Bottoms and then submissives and the most intense would be slave which is more of a 24 seven. Yeah, not even I So in that okay, right, but it is more intense is giving up total control sure so I'm this kind of question is depending on what words you're using submissive bottoms slave Yes, or absolutely is there's those three levels and then there's levels within those levels But they're not something that's written down in stone and that everyone new to the community gets handed this paperwork and says choose Which one you're gonna be and there are just so many permutations so many different things that one person can have that another person doesn't have That makes every person unique.

I don't know anyone that has the same dynamic or the consent They may use the overall term ham submissive, but what it means to you is something completely different than what it means to someone else What's a permutation? Oh my god, you know what you do that on purpose? You know, I know just but pull my pyramid. What's a peer mutation just move on?

I don't I want to know the word. It's a neat word bound to the Sun was talking about poorly plaid project Was it permutations or permutation permutations permutations permutations? Her mutations mark look at up. Okay, never mind Hey, she's my slave today.

Don't be leading my slave today. This is my Halloween slave. I have another ten minutes mark. What kind of slave are you?

Mark, can you please look up permutations? Oh my god? No, I it's really simple But once again if we go out and speak to people and we let them know because they hear from the media from romance novels They hear from people that maybe don't have the information that is submissive is someone who just gives up control in the dominant completely takes control And there's never a negotiation and it's never what if it works for you It's not this is sorry not to go against you and Papa But but this is one of the things that we talk about in panels This is the thing that we go out that there are dynamics and differences in this and it's what is inspired by each individual that What is permutations me? It's a mathematical term that means arranging different things in a specific set order It's a cool word.

Yeah, all right. You're gonna look at that please I'm gonna put that my vocabulary But I think it's I think it's really important to understand that you know just because you feel you might be submissive or be looking for someone to Dominate you doesn't mean you're submissive to everyone and it doesn't mean that even the person you want to submit to is the right person that inspires Your submission it may just not work you may have attraction you may have sexual energy you may have oh my gosh We place you know really well, but you just don't feel motivated by their plan by their higher calling by their plan for you That's okay, too That just means that you're not submissive to that person doesn't mean you don't still have that desire It just means that in this situation either there has to be a negotiation where the dominant makes changes or accommodates your needs Which everyone says oh that's horrible because a dominant dominant can't negotiate. You're not really a dominant Well, that's actually bullshit too because you do negotiate you say this is what I want if there's a deal-breaker Then that's what you have both the submissive and the dominant get to have deal-breakers and the dominant gets to say Hey, I understand that's what you need But I can't give that to you and the submissive gets to say this is what you want But I can't give you that yeah I haven't to think that the worst thing anybody new to the community could do is to just determine ahead of time What it is that they are and then run around trying to find situations that fit that because you will never know even if you have a Strong inclination in one area which I did when I first came in the community You're not gonna know what happens until you get into that relationship until you start talking and then suddenly different feelings Like you said we'll start manifesting for different people sure so and and the bet and the most fun is to just go with that and find out These new things about you. That's what is so great about BDSM and King in my opinion is that you'd play with one person and something completely Different will come out you play with another person.

It's like this scavenger hunt where you're going around trying to figure out What are the different sides of me the different parts of me? I do want to submit to this person But my submission to that person has nothing to do with my submission to that other or your desire to top that person It's for a switch absolutely I can go clear to the other side of the spectrum So it's a it's a tough thing to determine and I would caution anyone against trying I mean that really the answer when someone asks you what are you the answer of I don't know is perfectly acceptable sure It's a great starting point. I have no idea. I knew I just I'm gonna get started trying to figure this out.

Absolutely I like it. It's a good it himself. Yes, be it himself. Oh, you know what time.

Oh my god We're eating it flew by yeah We have questions or comments for us that you would like to ask or questions mostly that you would like us ask us This is pervert a mailbox meaning we're gonna answer something I'm an idiot whatever. Oh, God damn it I'm never gonna be polished email us at pervert podcast at gmail.com pervert about gas at gmail.com Pervert about gas at gmail.com is that the magic number you pre everything three times? Yeah, that's about your brain works or something like that. You know what time it is what time is we're gonna finish the show But we're gonna do it with some horror.

It's our poetry. It is scary. I can turn this mic off wait. Can I tickle mark?

She's under the table with all that equipment. She's crawling away. She just crawled under the other table She can't wait from you. I thought you were her master a tool master.

I'm not her for tonight. It's Halloween. You sure are Baby come back here. No.

Wow. See that's a perfect example. That's how this master says something That's a good girl. That's right.

Just my package. Thank you. That's a good girl. That's it.

That's it. That's my horse. That's the only higher is for my underwear on my nut sack. Blostini air.

That's it. That's a good girl. All right. Let's just end the show please.

No, it's horrible. I wrote. Did you write? I write trigger warning.

No trigger warning. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, fuck you all. So let's do some scary music or what is it? Okay.

Okay. Hang on. I gotta set up the thing. So it loops.

There it is. There it is. There it is. There.

All right. You read your scary poem. Tell me first. Yeah.

Okay. All right. Hang on. I was like this to lab because we're pro.

We are professional. This is poorly planned. Okay. There.

That's your horror movie. He's a good mother. He's a good hoorer. Do I have to say with that in the background?

No. Okay. Ready? Take a deep breath.

Get spooky. I can't tell you the name of this because it'll give away the joke. Okay. All right.

But I'm sure you'll get with this. Got my clothes about to dress sitting naked on the couch. Footsteps come. The door is slammed.

It's boogie. I'm sitting in the kitchen going to drink myself some tea when down the hall. I hear him laugh and take a running start and on his feet with socks. He slides past the open door.

Cock and balls are all I see. Ah, it's boogie. Threshold holds a lot of horror for those who seek it out. Some good, some great, some not so bad.

Some just the perfect size. But in all the parties classes groups. I bet you didn't know that the scariest one of all is hiding in plain sight because roaming down the halls in the mighty club of sin looks the one that tops them all. Ah, it's boogie.

I've been talking about the video. Kathy was having a bad day a few days ago. So, you know, the hallways kind of got tiles and it's slick. So on socks, if you run, you can slide and try not to kill yourself.

So she's sitting in the kitchen and the hallway door is right there. And I'm like, so I'm like, I'm just going to cheer Kathy up. So I go and I skid so you can't see me until I'm in the doorway. And then I go sideways and I go, ah, with my hands up in the air.

And she goes, you see, she lashes all that funny. I go, oh my God, I'm going to record that because it's like a gift. It's like a gift for that. It'd be funny.

So I do it a couple of times. The first time I almost came myself. I heard you hit the wall. I survived.

But, you know, I'm determined to turn it out. I survived. But, you know, I'm determined to get a good slide. You got to be sideways.

I'm like, ah, sideways. It's on YouTube. It says, sharing up a friend or don't laugh with us. So, so then I'm like, OK, I got to get a really good one.

And so she's like, OK, ready? It's the third time you're doing time. You're like, look over here on my camera. You set up.

So, of course, the week that she's looking, I strip off my fucking pants and I fucking run as fast as I can. I go completely sideways and wiggle my cock as I go. It was truly horror. You're not segaling.

But only for a half a second. And then I tried to go back and show her the back end. It is on YouTube and Vimeo, God damn it. It's shared you up.

I'm glad it horrified you. All right. If you get easily grossed out or freaked out, I'm just giving you your warning now. Turn it off now.

When she came to the light from a single hanging low white bulb burned her bloodshot into hydrated eyes. Her head was aching and her clothes were wet with fresh sticky blood. Straining to focus, she could only read the hand-scrawled message on the wall that would give her the one instruction she would need to survive. And do her all the rooms to make it to daylight.

Before any deeper meaning could be contemplated of these instructions or even how she got to be in this position, the light bulb burst into a thousand shards and an orchestra of scurrying feet filled the dark room coming towards her. As she screamed in horror, the feeling of hundreds of furry bodies and scratching collars, climbing and biting at her clothing made her spasm and wretch with revulsion and terror. The rats meticulously ignored her flailing and proceeded to chew until she was stripped naked. The tiny teeth made shallow painful tears into her flesh, that as much as she tried to hate, made her pussy overwhelmingly wet.

One of the rats seized on this opportunity to claw up her inner thigh and crawl into her cunt, where it proceeded to shake and convulse in a way no biological creature could possibly vibrate. The feeling of wiggling fur inside her terrified snatch made her sob and scream with humiliation and shameful ecstasy. She was being rat fucked on a cold floor and it turned her on. The rats bit her nipples hard and she squirted while coming all over the rat, spiting her legs and the tail of the rat buried in her pussy.

With screams and writhing she came and came until her head rang and her heart felt like it would explode. Then everything went black and all was a floating quiet dream. She lost consciousness again. When she came to the light from a single hanging low-watt bulb burned her bloodshot into hydrated eyes.

Her head was aching and her clothes were back on and once again wet with fresh sticky blood. How many rooms had she been in? How many more must she endure until she can see the light of day? Oh my god, that is our fucking Halloween show.

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Roast. Rat fucked. Oh my god. Just a clause in the bike.

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She's a lot. Finally a fucker.