Show 81 "The Aftermath"

Uh oh. I think eating cookies. What? No cookies.

Is that a big, don't you, you put down a paper towel, young lady, because you're gonna make crumbs everywhere. Give her a paper towel, creepy, give her a paper towel, because she's gonna put, we're gonna have fucking Fred the Road 7, 8, and 27. I know it makes Mark happy, but just, yes, and then just eat, yeah, and then just put it down and now lean down without your hands. Look at what it's called.

Without your hands and eat it off. Wait, this is good, look at that. Oh, oh, oh. So someone has to fit it now?

No, no, no, she's a good girl. Yeah, now's a good girl. Oh, now, now we get, now we suddenly get up snacks in here. I see how it is.

Oh, well yeah, if you're gonna eat it off a napkin at my fucking instruction, you can have all the goddamn snacks you want, I'm not stupid. Fucking perse. Whatever. Following show is for mature audiences only, listener discretion is advised, and if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself.

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I'm a bird of broadcast with show where we talk about the adventures of the kinky lifestyle sex and perversion. Recording live from the Love Lab in North Hollywood, California, in front of a very large perverted studio audience. Hello, perverts. I'm Kathy.

I'm a creepy dude. What do you do? What do you do? Flash, flash, move.

Like just not even, ah, and the whole show just to rail. Thank you. Thank you. He showed his girls' boobs.

I'm a mess. And I am Calabogia and this is show 81. Oh my, we're done with adult con. Yay.

With a weekend of mayhem, it was absolutely mayhem. And we're gonna actually talk about adult con and it's like, oh, in section with all the good, the bad, the ugly, the, ah, reflective, some tears. It's actually very nice way of putting it. Mayhem, yes.

It was what it was supposed to be. It was adult con. And we'll talk about that in a little bit. But you know what?

I want to talk about a new donor on our Patreon account. And I said, you know, we haven't. What? What a donor?

Donor means, like a sperm donor. I don't have a permit. That's where I was thinking. Okay.

So, perverted podcast listener jizzed into a cup and sent it to a biz and apparently she finds out to be thrilling. What? No. I hate you.

So anyway, we have this Patreon account so people can support us because they know we're broke gases and it really came in handy because we had to pay for parking. God fucking. Really? You defend this, Kathy.

It's hysterical. You defend this when I go at it. You're the biggest part of all this. You don't even realize it.

You left a huge butt plug on the kitchen counter. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know. I don't know. Yes. It was rinsed.

It was lunch there. It was good. Well, then don't put the butt plug in your fucking lunch. It was green.

Yeah, a little green camera. It's cute. So anyway, I just wanted our listeners to know and especially our listeners that have been really nice. We don't tell anybody they have to donate to us.

But it is really good. It's highly encouraged. I do. Yes, yes.

They're hard for the cash. But it's just awesome because we had to pay for parking at adult con all three days and everyone had to pay for parking and then there was all sorts of little toys and gadgets and things that we had that helped get us to do what we needed to do to kind of preach the message of threshold and perverted podcast and some of the money that we get from our listeners went to that. We'll talk about how awesome it was to see the reactions of some of the people who had never experienced King P4. So it's just exciting.

I want you guys to know. Thank you very much. It's not just that. It's the stuff here in the love lab that we need sometimes.

Plastic feet. I feel like the plastic feet needed to be like a little on that. Yes, we must approve all purchases from now on. Don't just get on.

I didn't. I just bought the plastic. No, but you know what I think a lot of people don't understand that Patreon is not you just don't go in there and donate once you have the only way for you to donate is to do it monthly. You can stop it though.

Yeah, you can stop it. Of course. You can do it one time. You can say 10 bucks and then stop it.

But most of these people are sending us money every month and I get blown away that there are people who actually are okay with I don't care how little it is being taken out of their bank accounts and they're going to support us. I just got my squirm level. I just got you guys just push me now into total like I feel back like I'm back preaching for money in the Christian fucking church. I'm sorry, but I'm going to thank you.

I'm going to say let's move on to Fred. So I hate I have a thing. I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I don't I just I just I can see you're just for two seconds. You know there are you guys in the kitchen.

You just had five minutes. We're moving fucking on. Okay, so oh look go ahead. Give me your disdainful look like I give a.

Oh, we will. We just wanted to say thank you very much. Was that so hard? Not to you but to the people.

Not to you. Well, thank you. Donors Fred 4 and 5. What is that?

Well, Abyss found Mark, Fred 5. At adult con. Yeah, it was the greatest thing to say. It was at the L.A.

Convention Center. Okay, I'm going to tell you the Fred 1, 2, 3, and 4 story. You got five minutes. Okay, I'm not going to take 5 minutes.

So this is the kind of creepy love stuff we do in our lifestyle. So I there was a roach in the building, like a bug a water bug whatever and it died and and I just kind of left it. You know, I stomped on it in here. This was like, I don't know, like 6, 9 months ago.

So I stepped on it and I kicked it out the door and I said, I'll get it later or whatever. It was morning, you know, I'm like fucking a roach. And so it was like right outside across the hall You know by the other wall and so I walk by the next day and I'm like hey Fred Because I name everything Fred and so then mark kind of comes along and I start saying mark say hi Fred And so I could say hi Fred. It's a dead fucking roach So the brain does something interesting it develops attachment to the strangest things by the brain you mean marks Brain marks brain, but this is like part of psychology is that if you if it becomes a part of your pattern you want to keep it In the pattern so literally like two weeks go by I never took the roach out and we just it was Fred the roach So all of a sudden like the janitor at the time before I inherited the great-grand job of janitor of the building here You inherited the pleasure your scepter So all of a sudden the janitor finally Cleaned up Fred and I swear to God like the next day mark was here And she's like where's Fred and I might want to think they cleaned it look on her face the devastation the like hurt Just like the loss of Of her dead roach of her dead roach Fred the dead roach that she said hi to and so I'm like don't worry honey I'm sure there'll be another one so literally like two days later.

I Another roach so I put it by the door and then like literally the the next day she came by and the the joy that she had on Her face because she now had Fred too outside of the door and then of course Fred too led to they dry out and get disintegrated Which turned to Fred three which then turned to Fred four and then abyss at adult con Pointed out because she knows this insanity that we do pointed out and said look mark It's a Fred and mark got just because you know word adult con we're out of our elements You know we get a little nervous there's all sorts of activity going on So it was like kind of a homey dead roach feeling which I did not leave that in our firm for mark I got a I got a blot out her face, but she took a picture with it So I just thought it was fun to finally tell people the story that right now there is a dead roach outside of the of the hallway And I don't think we should really be telling people that how many dead cockroaches there are you know We live in Los Angeles. We live in Los Angeles. I trust me I've been in a lot of buildings this this building has the least roaches of any but you're gonna have one every Okay, I'm not one for you're not a homeless joke is that really I did not say that so anyway So yeah, you want to talk about kinks? So I thought it was cute and it's just cute that in our lifestyle We have alternative ways to share intimacy with each other and it can be the most mundane weird or backwards thing that we can still connect with and The point is is that I think of mark so I gave her dead roach.

Oh my god. That's a love story I love story Fred I mean it's it's sweet and it's only and now abyss is part of that too because mark loves abyss and now abyss is Found a roach and now bunny and uncle creepy don't worry about finding a roach Gaming gaming what's that what's that that was your bright idea? Has assigned up bigger than the like last 11 midweek parties that we've done So you gonna tell them about it or you're so we're in the kitchen one night and after an abysmal Wednesday night Like four people and someone says we should have gaming here and before you know it boogie has changed all midweek parties to kick a gaming night which is gonna be gaming in the main where we're gonna set up all the tables and Kinking out and so the gaming is like dungeons and dragons cards against humanity like people really saying games You're the only one who doesn't know what do you mean? No, I think gaming I think video gaming like first person shooter quake motherfucker OG asteroids packed a man tabletop gaming board games Things like that.

Oh board games. Yeah, you can still kink out while you're gaming. I want them to do hunger. I got yes Now you said there was a way to do strip D&D.

Yeah strip dungeons and dragons. How would you do that? I just popped my head when you brought it up, but I'm thinking if clothing is hit points every time you lose a hit point You just you just get creepy like nerd boner. So obviously we're on the right track Point you lose a piece of clothing, but what if you're like character characters such a bitch to build what if you actually kill one and With clothing no, it's a hit point.

Okay, what you did dungeons So but remember if you go below if you get to zero, you're just unconscious. I get a 10, but Just like handing out hot pockets and p-jugs to everyone because we're all now in our mom's basement So you're so we can we can do a house rule where they don't actually die and they're transported to naked land Oh, they can send them to naked land which is a little corner I'd like this. Okay, so that's this Wednesday the 21st. So we're doing kinky take eight to midnight I don't have a cockroach infested threshold Live with bondage can't get freaky sex Enlightened or possibly perplexed for your piece of mind please know that the author of every post we talk about it specifically granted us permission to do so Now you have your paper.

Oh, I'm like what the shit? I'm just never mind never mind just move on so our first post is from roses and ropes who wrote drip drip drop She says drop. It's a troubling and emotional time for anyone who experiences it and yet not often talked about at any length It can be terrifying the first time it happens, especially if you're not expecting it There's no universal way we experienced it or indeed get through it It's one of those things a bit like dental work that we really don't want to relive It's not sexy It's certainly not fun and it's frequently accompanied by some pretty unpleasant emotions We have this incredible scene a euphoric posting high and then at some point afterwards we feel like shit Okay, I mean I feel like my Michelle would have to disagree What you know, I think you and my Michelle would have to disagree. I mean I just meant about the comment about the dental work Oh You know, she was supposed to be here tonight with her jar of teeth.

Yes. Oh my god I want to see that jar of teeth. So I want to make vlogger handles out of those You do that and I'm never coming back into the club I didn't want to see that you can get a router and just make a little hole and then gorilla glue into a panel Oh my god the idea see look we have gas there not even their heads again We also have gas there like cringing but no as far as the dropping I completely understand because if I could just do this and never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever Drop again. I'd be solid.

It's a horrible feeling cuz fuck that shit straight in the ass without lube Huh? Damn Now before we get any further I just I want you to be brave and just tell me how you feel about drop I just want you to go ahead and just don't mince words anymore. Just really stop the big. I just don't like it.

Okay, I see that I'm actually curious. Have you ever experienced drop? Have I boogie ever experienced from a scene not from some else because I know you've been dropping When like we're done with certain like I'm dropping Like a dog con. Not that a scene.

Oh absolutely absolutely This is a chemical process that is going on in your brain drop is any feeling that you have means that there are chemicals in your body That are doing something that give you a feeling a feeling as a series of chemicals and signals and hormones and things that make you feel a certain way So drop is a feeling and that's why it sucks because it's a shitty feeling It's that we associate with with feeling bad So on a physiological level absolutely I drop on a regular basis Especially because you can't go one way but the body has to balance itself There has to be a balancing to your equation to get the homeostasis and start healing again So the obvious if it's way way up here It can go is that your stomach growling that I can hear from across the room Well, thank you So yeah, absolutely I have dropped I have my own methods of dealing with drop I have you know as the top because there's the times where you know Your brain tells you the bullshit because you have the feelings and of course when you have the feeling especially if you're someone that has a history of depression and shit like that Then there's gonna be despair and nihilism and things that come in that are you know like why am I doing this and you know Those are looking at me said nihilism because you're a nylus you it's it's one of your four food groups What do you have you have fear you have depression nihilism nihilism and what it get enjoy and get enjoy it That's right. So one of one of Kathy's food groups is are we distracting you guys at all? I'm listening. Okay, good.

So yeah, I have patterns in place for the things I do I I've only ever had one of those really horrible horrible drops that just lasted a week and it was I Never want to go through that again ever but you heard me last week. I was a little dropy after coming back from sure He'd explore his place every once in a while. I just get just a little dropy. It's normal I mean it kind of is I you know you hear the description You just gave it's a physiological thing then the chemicals coursing through your body and there's nothing you can do about it But there is I mean you can't you can't stop it you can't you can't do that well That's what a lot of people you you may not be able to stop just like with anything in our brains in psychology You may not be able to completely avoid the hit but you can surely lessen the impact with it You can have plans in place.

There's physiological ones like make sure you get rest make sure you hydrate make sure that you've eaten Well that if you do light stretching or some kind of anaerobic activity You're gonna boost your circulation which is gonna help move the chemicals through there are a lot of physiological things But there's also a lot of emotional things you can do which is the things that I do I make sure that I have support around I make sure that I have people around me that understand what drop is so I can just say You know I'm gonna do something you know and then I have somebody that's my point of reference that can say hey You know okay, it's normal so when I'm a little bit crazy in my head I have an objective voice that can say you're not crazy This is normal it'll pass and that kind of lessens the amount of time I really buy the people you see at the club who they know they're gonna go through it and they're so well versed in what they have like their kit Yes, they bring the baggies chocolate cookies and they bring like their buddy they bring like their stuffy They have like their specific blankets. They have like their pre-cooked meal And I'm just like cuz they know they're gonna drop I'm like that ground Xanax that is snortin a fat line after I was like shit, not a threshold, but I was just like you are prepared They're like yes, and they have like they have their movie prepared afterwards and like they're cuddle and I'm like okay cool You I would play with you're already prepared you are you're like a cat yourself contained and I think what's exceptional What's exceptional about those type of people is there's a lot of them a lot of people have their plan And that's another benefit of being involved in a community I mean even just listening to perverted podcast or the Center for Positive Sexuality or Dr. Dose explanations just being having that information to know that it's normal that it is a completely normal thing some people You are not dying you are not dying This is actually very common And so it stops that initial fear in those spinning kind of responses to be in a community or be around that information that lets you feel that You're not crazy. This is just I didn't know it was what was happening that that time where it was really bad And I just happened to have a friend coming over for tea and we were sitting in the patio And we're talking I'm trying to keep up a you know positive attitude And then I just started bawling in the middle of a she knew right away what was going on and I'm sorry I forgot if it went out for that woman that would have been a truly horrendous day And I will say guys just as a heads up and and the author really did a good job of like point-by-point That was a good long post and it was long and it was really good like going point-by-point You know this this is what something to expect this is what I you know experience blah blah blah blah They're a really good job laying it out But then sometimes even with the prep work even with you know emotional support sometimes you just got to weather the storm And it sucks and even with like I've personally I've gone through it where it's like I've had really great people holding my hand And I'm just like and just like I'm over it and just like I'm just gonna leave open me in the corner And I know I'm not crazy.

I know this is normal, but I'm just or munching Fuck you and I hate everyone I do it and seven two hour later I'm like, okay You know all your dogs are just looking at you and going you emo god damn I know if under gets dropy okay That's actually very funny. We were just talking about that in the chat under org drop. Oh, good drop Yeah, I drop both that stopping bottom more bottom. I think Overall, but yeah, I'll drop and sometimes not bad.

Mm-hmm. What do you do what you does to get it to get it out of your system? Generally, I will like work like painting hour days Distraction distractions good way to get your job. Nothing nothing wrong What about in our lovely audience anyone here ever experienced anyone here ever experience drop anyone that they wanted that can actually talk Mark won't get Yeah, Marcus.

She's never experienced drop ever ever Ish why should we actually happy it's not normal? Right quite right girl, so name right right all right well, then I think we covered it But once again ending with it's normal. There's nothing wrong with you and reach out I'm dropping fine people in groups say that now that people are gonna be emailing you get to get all of it You know what it's not like we have the biggest audience in the world That is I get one email a week. I'm happy It's pretty much axiomatic Had to throw in the word of the day I can't even tell me I was supposed to find the word of the day jingle Didn't I say didn't I say I didn't I say you have all the jingles?

Next time I'm going over them one by fucking one I Am fast on this computer find a jingle blind is a bad Thank you, so our word of the day which by the way pervert a podcast was we have no idea why we're doing this segment Because I know one of those things you get excited about and I said I had a list of words that I don't know what they mean So I find the definition of when I read it To make a jingle Shimi did you see it's instinctive? That's the only reason I wanted to do I could think what it's so axiomatic is an adjective that means self-evident unquestionable taken for granted Mmm me absolutely. I am axiomatic. I know you think that you're that boogie being a love God is axiomatic But it really is not it's not I am a love God.

There should be no discussion about this It is a superfluous discussion the Sun is warm the sky is blue. I push out fucking axiomatic Christ You shot me right in the polio shot Fuck you king fuck you to death in a hole with Moss Okay, we have another fat life thing do this written by schism who wrote that wasn't a blowjob. Oh, that's funny schism No, no, no, he's a lot of you know like no, it's not like a kid the skis I can't remember what is from like a frank zappa saw something there's schism. There's I don't know what's again boogie's lost Blowjobs that's you can't focus.

Okay. So she says so whenever I get with a new vanilla boy I always practice my slave cock worshiping skills It falls somewhere in the range of save the melting icicle on a hot day brutal messy face fucking hands on ass up whole body cock worship Vanilla boys have no idea what the fuck to do best blowjob of my life. No, no that wasn't a blowjob That was epic level slave shit. You're welcome Yes And more need to feel as she does but you know it's more we need more of this epic slave blowjob type It'd be I mean, it's a lot of little letters epic e Asb I really don't know where you're going with it I just think it should be a new thing, you know, you got MSDS you should have you know Whatever that is letters.

Why not? Confused you didn't it goddamn it's you look at you But no, I really I know I personally been in this boat and have to giggle Is this where we just all start jerking off our blowjobs feels right now? It's not just because I'm left out crossover with vanilla and kink right. Yeah, it's the it's the bringing it to what we consider our You know daily what we consider like what we can sitter like what we better kinky, you know, feisty, you know Spicing it up.

We consider Tuesday. Yeah, you know, yeah, where it's like hey, this is like a birthday special occasions It's like this was like anal like anal hook is like Netflix to mostly like our anal hook is Yeah, so like I had a guy be like well, do you mind if I pull your hair? Like no Why would I oh really and I'm like can I can I get a little rough with you? You're up.

Please do. Oh, man. It's just bump your head on the mic. Yes.

Oh my god. I highly encourage it like take the lead God damn it. Yeah, I mean really at this point. I and this is totally true I cannot have or I simply will not enjoy sex unless I'm being restrained or I'm being forced to regular So I don't think I could ever go on a Data ever again seeing as I am the love every time he gets that tone of words.

I'm like here we go I kind of say there's there's two points point a I totally agree with you guys I I didn't I didn't really think because anytime I hear I shut off I completely anytime I hear someone say I give the world's greatest blowjob or I give the world's greatest oral I can he pussy for five hours. I have this instant trigger that I know it's not true because they it's just it's a It's a past thing. It's a history with me that people that brag about their abilities to do things Maybe are good for with this one person and then they kept that one style and they keep doing that same style for every person is Every person is the same so that was my first reaction when I read this until Kathy made the point that actually makes sense And what the post was most likely about was the fact that what we consider completely like normal This is the way we interact with each other to other people who aren't exposed to this world would think this was pure insanity And then I started laughing and thinking about wow if just you know Some of the normal things that I do that to me are very romantic and intimate like grabbing someone by the throat and pulling Their hair and smack in their face and doing and doing these things that no, but you know exactly what I mean in that moment We don't think of it like oh I'm doing something mean and harsh or whatever This is just I'm gonna fucking dig into you and we're gonna connect we are gonna be intimate right now Go and that's kind of what we think of it as but I can just I can think back over this vast history of non-kinky people that I mean Wow if you just bite their shoulder they'd be like wow that's that's really aggressive Well that's a little much but on the same on the same token I know a lot of people in Kathy you say it and I think a business said it in some ways I have a lot of vanilla sex I like sweet missionary position sometimes looking at someone not too long because then it's creepy, you know But I I enjoy petting because that's more of a daddy thing. There's there's it's still perverted it is not It's still pretty it's not even because you're doing it in a daddy.

No, I mean it's not so I don't once again I don't think I'm doing this because I'm a daddy I'm doing this because I like touching the face of somebody that I'm you know that I have strong feelings for and that there's a Level it looks either creepy is now face rubbing his girl. You see that's very good. Okay now I'm doing it like I read our You just lost sexy there But you understand you do sweet stuff too. It doesn't mean just because I'm kinky.

I don't ever have sweet fucking sex I think that's missing out but I think the difference is you're also At least in my experience with your situation you're progressing and you're evolving so we had some sweet sex We okay, hey, I saw pictures of you eating Thanksgiving dinner off of her back. Okay. That was that was still very sweet I can't even have Thanksgiving dinner without getting all kinkified. So I mean some of those hot but we've had kissy sex Like twice it's in three years But no, I'm saying it's like with yours.

It was definitely I think But I mean no I do see where you're going that just because our like what she was saying with the blowjob thing It's that's that is it just because it is something different and more extreme doesn't mean that it's For when she is doing it with her sir or her master. It's that is that is that is her Tuesday So it may be on a different level, but it's funny because that is now her Tuesday because if she went back and did a blowjob That's you know a regular blowjob for everybody else I hear the conversations because dudes talk and that's why I don't hang out with dudes because non-king dudes Just they have that like when some when they're talking about chicks that do freaky shit that shit did freaky man She like reached around and like scratched my ass, you know I swear to God the stuff I have heard the stuff I heard at adult con just You know amazingly when non-king people talk about women when non-king guys talk about the stuff that women do most of it It's just so softball, but still they're like that's that's fucking crazy. That's crazy And then guys are like yeah dude. That's crazy.

That bitches crazy scratch your ass. That's not crazy I think it's pretty good. Yeah, all right. I don't have a thing We just some fucking advice before you do all don't come to get all you know Sometimes love is less than nice you may need some fucking advice right now I was gonna read this but what you're gonna get emo when we talk about a delk on I drop you ask you Sorry, it's really important that we remind you that none of us here at the earth is especially boogie.

I am All right, if you need therapy for real, please don't go to boogie get it from a professional therapist. I think it's axiomatic that what? I'm supposed to make a sense out of that what you mean? I feel axiomatic What I write out definitions I give examples all this all I read this word of the day axiomatic Was on the show sheet the show I read that the Google Doc that I make you I didn't read that yeah, thank you I'm doing things, you know, please the fact that boogie doesn't read this shit earlier.

No, no Oh, Jesus Christ the fact that you don't read all my carefully planned stuff is just axiomatic. Oh action. She used it properly No, yeah, no, it was taken for granted correct, you know that one went so far over my head. I don't even realize I was just being insulted Well, I did good right.

I made it funny, right? You made it funny good, but you did good boogie Someone who wants to remain anonymous nice. I was curious where a person should dispose of old sex toys I know we have very uncle creepy scurice whatever. I know we have very Madisiding can I finish this please I know we have various electronic waste days, but I have a feeling they are not expecting vibrators I think that she would be right probably because I don't think that had to come yeah I was just gonna say that had to come from a female of course Like I'm like what just different matters all my point of view is I'm gonna be putting it in me No, oh am I supposed to give the correct answer?

No, the correct answer is madisite I didn't throw it in the trash or take out the batteries. Well, yeah I mean make a toy out of it, you know make a lampshade with it I feel like my I had an ex who worked in the foreign industry, so they would get like sample toys So like we don't get well, yeah, we got the lovely oh, that's true We got the series to by the way that video is up to almost 30,000 news Anyhow, so what they what they did is they took like dildos like the extra ones and like put them like in front of ours Was what like adding on a room? So they stuck it in the drywall Oh, that's awesome So like if someone ever does construction and cut away the drywall, they're gonna find dildos in the wall Yep, you know usually the treasure hunters would hope to find like some grandpa's jewelry from 1920 Yeah, of course, and then I'm thinking being the asshole and cuz I'm I'm you know I went through and like just donated a bunch of stuff to the good next level on that show I literally am all well You know is mad aside to make sure it's clean and like horse the asshole in me is like like put it in with like a bag of stuff And just like take it to the good will That's horrible, but worthy of applies I like to know if our percion says any I could do it I'll guarantee a good will who's found plenty of sex toys because no people don't check all those drawers and boxes and whatever and if they Oh, well, oh, yeah, there's there's that anyway, how do you guys dispose of your sex toys? Just throws them over your shoulders just right out there right out the car window.

I don't know someone will want this What the girl you originally were using? Oh? Christmas tree ornaments. Hmm Christmas tree ornaments pretty good.

It could be a kinky Christmas tree I'm telling you just take the like the penis and like filet it multiple times Which of course causes a you know psychological impact anyway, and then like make one of those spiral lamps You know like with the fiber optics fiber optic I mean honestly it would probably just be Batteries out and it's wasteful and awful as it sounds. I just just just check it. Yeah, let us eagle find it Like it's legal walk around with an egg vibrator filing all its out homeless guy chasing it. Come here adult con Talk about a talk on well.

Thank you very much, and if anybody of course wants to ask us a question believe me We will talk about it He said this question for birdie podcast at gmail.com. There's there's times like our listeners go I mean yeah, there are ways a good amount of listeners now and it goes in waves We're like I don't know they like send out a memo and they're like hey Just don't don't get involved this stuff. Just let them just let them down there don't commit to pushing the send button on perverted podcast calm It's funnier when they have to work for it. Yes, Jesus Christ, but no we do get a lot of topics from our listeners We get a lot of money with no perverted mail by And then we get emo in but heard it comes ego.

Okay, so now is it I don't have an adult con jingle because I'm making any more fucking production for adult con I we've done it so adult con is this giant adult Personality giant average. It's well. I mean it's giant in the LA convention center. It usually is this was a very low average size of medium width Wow, okay abyss.

Thank you. I actually agree with you. Yeah, so you got grumpy look on her face abyss had an expectation I guess so it's it's a big convention there there were many hundreds of people that went through this invention at the LA convention Center and it was done by adult con would have been doing it for 15 years and and So we were invited down perverted podcast to To have our own area and they gave us this giant area that was double the size that they were giant We had I mean we had more more than we had stuff for that's true We have plans to put out chairs for the classes and then take them down because we thought yeah We thought we're not gonna have the room but the guy but you know the guy that ran it They've been doing this for a long time and they had just like extended the reason and abyss wasn't here for the big conversation With the guy the next day they had just added all this extra space So they didn't know really where we were gonna do or how it was gonna work So they gave us this and he has all these plans for next year and they're definitely not doing it in December again They'll do it in September and they just tried it and that's why it was it was lower It was a little slower, but um, but aside from logistics and time and whatever There were a lot of people that came to adult con and came to the perverted podcast playground that was sponsored by threshold They walked by a lot of a lot by a lot of one a lot of pointy then and just said nope not gonna go But we taught a lot of classes a lot of fucking classes seven classes in three days and and every class had 50 60 70 people that showed up for their class And and we just taught you know like Kathy and I did erotic roleplay and you know massage wax play Spanking spanky taught spanking and and so we taught a lot of beginner classes and of course what was exciting about it Is it really was whatever we're gonna say about the outcome and blah blah blah? We can say that that's my own personal but her of myself But the reality is is a lot of people came to this thing I had no idea really about BDSM or that there was a community or that it involved consent and communication and connecting and intimacy with your partners And we handled that part.

I really felt we had a lot we had like ten of us down there. My Michelle was there Ramon was there hunger and fucking MJ hunger was dressed hunger. Okay. I gotta hear this hunger Yeah, I'm gonna win his top seat the clown whoo three days three days Hunger was in full clown Scaring the shit out of people there was one story, you know, he was cracking his whip because it's a huge convention center I'm cracking a whip.

I have a feeling when people were passing by like a bit said I don't want to part of that is because they saw under and clown makeup with no they brought him in They brought him over because the whip crack I mean this place is like a hundred two hundred thousand square feet and that whip crack you just heard it bounce over everything So we're gonna do a class reverse But yeah, that that that that's true And the whole time they stripped so no and so hunger was out there as top seat a clown which is a reference to the first elephant they electrocuted It was yeah, it was an experiment it was a killer She actually killed people so they electrocuted it and a lot of people today reference Ed is the Edison production company because he was doing film at that point and got rid of the war of the currents So they say he did it to prove a seems bad. He was far outside of that and stuff. Oh, okay Okay, so they're so he had like a backstory on his name But that's what we're with the name. Yeah, but it really I mean people and I went with a seat when you were a kid When you were a kid and another kid had a birthday party and they had a clown at their party that was like value That was like street cred like you got a clown at your party fuck.

Yeah, I got a clown motherfucker I'm gonna say that fucking clown there's make mother fucking balloons right now So the fact that perverted podcast we had our own for me you guys didn't get this But as a kid that grew up with that mentality until the clown of course at my four-year-old party popped a balloon of my face I made me gun shy for 15 years other than that it was there was a lot of street cred So I was really stoked that we had to put hunger has one story his best clown moment of the entire Entire adult con please hunger tell your story. So a class was going on. So I'm not cracking lips. We're not doing tasters So I'm walking around with mr.

Bunny and Mr. Bunny mr. Bunny is one of my toys that I made he's up It's a paddle with a bunny on it that squeaks and is a lot of fun and amazing and stuff He's not my favorite But anyway, so I'm walking down the hall and I smell pot I'm highly allergic to it and so I as soon as I as soon as it's near I smell it notice it right away So I'm starting to get angry because of that and I come around the corner And I see for just a moment the coal on the joints and when it's actually smoking in the convention center Which is it was really bad to begin with at that moment. She sees me Six foot four.

Yeah, she's a she's 400 whatever. This is one of the strippers and yeah six four four hundred twenty pound clown carrying a bunny on a paddle She sees me screams and bolts to the door. I never saw her again the whole con Yes And now she's dead they troll the river for her body Panic it's okay. We're in California.

We don't have so the I mean the So my opinion and I'll ask you guys I know you guys didn't like the size because we wanted there to be five million people And you know once again, they tried a date they usually do this in Las Vegas and it's fucking huge so I had to look you know cuz I put in a lot of work. We all put in a lot of work We all showed up three days volunteered drove down loaded unloaded trucks I made endless signs prepared classes. It was a lot of work and at the end of of that game If it wasn't for the people The so I talked to couples, you know people that have been married like 20 years that just decided you know what we really want to do this kinky But we had no idea where to look and now you guys are here and they took all the threshold literature And we tell you know and everyone just gathers around because they're so excited to be able to explore each other in their relationship And there was dozens of these couples that we talked to that were excited some of them didn't live locally But they still we were able to tell them There's a community of people there are outlets for you to learn how to do this safely with each other and gain this level of Intimacy all of the classes had a focus on consent and intimacy So there was a few hundred people there that got to hear a message about kinky people and our lifestyle that they would not have heard Had we not been there so that alone of course is worth the work Did it benefit did we get a lot of listeners for perverted podcast out of it? No not really there There wasn't any media there that that was interested in us whatever but for thresholds purposes a lot of people came that day Like Friday we don't know because orientation will be in a couple weeks But from the Friday like four people showed up the next day at orientation one guy came to every part of this young guy Came to every party that weekend started playing as a bottom with Spanks and then he turns around and he comes back five minutes and he goes I want to know can I try it just play my pants down?

It was like he came here every night and he was excited and he saw I just I had no idea I would like this and and and I I do the math in my head, you know Hey, how much work did I put in versus what did it benefit for the original benefits because we do these events where we do samplers in classes Three times a year at threshold we do my kinky Valentine carnival and bizarre bizarre and so this was a lot more work Especially for me and so you know no I don't know if I would if I'm gonna be involved as much with this you know next year maybe threshold will want to take you know This over but I can't say it wasn't an amazing experience to be in a situation where people would normally just not be even though It's adult industry. It's still not necessarily kinky, but it was great in that aspect. That's actually the reason like I do have a lot of Mixed feelings on it. Well for one I'm used to sheltered and happy in the community because there are cameras there aren't videos there aren't you know the things we have to there's a lot more respect and mutual respect and The one thing that I did like to kind of that I will take away from as a win from adult con is In the adult industry a lot of times the girls like you had said don't get treated with very much respect Because they are just you know objects.

They're just objects. They're just porn stars. They're just fuck buddies You know, they're just they're fucked toys They're just this that the other and when some dude walks up to me and is treating me like sex worker without respect and I'm like no That's not how the shit works. I'm actually here from threshold.

I'm actually this is not my profession I'm doing outreach because this is my hobby and I am teaching you that you don't get to treat me like this You I am not here for your fucking pleasure. It's hard for a community people to be in that environment I'm not gonna lie did not have a good time because the creep factor was off the fucking place and I understand no But that's what it's there It's adult con that that men are going to go there for the express purpose of looking at porn stars is axiomatic But so I get it You don't have to you know turn the whole thing around for me I was just supremely uncomfortable in that environment the entire time because like a bit says we're so used to Confidentiality and not outing people and I don't think I saw single person there who did have their phone out or a camera out Or some kind of recording equipment just to get pictures of all the gorgeous women and I get it But it made me very uncomfortable. Sure. It was hard It was but it was fun protecting mark who had a full mask the entire three days Because she had pig we put pigtails outside of her mask So she had like a literal ski mask and then we cut holes in the side She and she just looked like cute and mysterious and literally every fucking old pervert just leering and I know she's gonna Miss she's look at her smiles.

You can't even get tater's while she's gonna masturbate about it thinking She doesn't want him to touch her But just the thought that so many creepy people are so creepy over her She likes that but it was still it was very different and and I had prepped her Hey, this is I mean and a lot of people were polite not everyone was a total fucking creeper We talked to lots of people that were polite. I did have people that said hey, can we get a picture? Is it okay? So there were a number of people that were polite But yeah, of course this is the type of person that would go to this event is the type of person that goes to a strip club to watch They're not the strippers don't interact with you at a strip club other than trying to get you to do a lap dance So you have a lot of socially really awkward people there which to me was entertaining Okay, except for the couple times where you have to step in and go hey, you know what you need to give some space here Didn't the blue like one?

I'm here I'm here. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, what was I had to say like oh say it's Go And stuff and we actually had some people that on Sunday that Beginning by was like hell no, I'm not going anywhere near there halfway actually for the wax play class It actually came in right and I spent some time chatting with these guys because I remember them from earlier saying hell no and Then they started taking passes for Like the bodybuilder guys that you were talking about how you know you're talking about earlier How how they talk about girls who do anything kicky and now was like the rope interest me.

I'm really interested in trying the rope Sure and goddamn if serial killer fucking Sam who's not here tonight He was you The quiet devastating warrior pimp because I had told him I said hey Why don't you bring a few pictures like a little menu so you can just show people you know what you do So because if they don't know then they're gonna want you to tie me up But if you show them a picture then they'll be like oh okay Well, that's cool So I put up a little menu of some of the things and bunny and and mark did like little pictures that look real sexy of your spanking Cropping whatever and that was up and so Sam actually went to the next level and he's like alright And he like did a photo shoot with like this cute girl portfolio actual like thing Oh my god I had to show you I took a picture of it cuz man some of the other folks look over and he's got his like rope draped across the shoulders And he has his portfolio and he's in like a dress shirt and it's really nice But like he's like we're like that sure you know time stuff like that But we look over in the way he's standing with it and I'm like he looks like a Mormon Literally standing there and I'm like and when the girls is like do you have a moment to talk about the word of king? But he pimped it and he I mean he got right in there and he yesterday he had two Really just sexy women and he tied them both facing each other and I'm like shitty life I'm so and he's like he was there was no cool there. I know there was definitely we definitely did a lot of demos I know I know MJ and myself that MJ was a monster getting people in networking So I mean it I have to take the good with the the crazy and the whatever and my expectations I was really my emo was I was coming in I taught six classes of the seven classes and and I had to face the fact that I thought I was a certain type of teacher and I had to face the fact that at the end game I am not the teacher that I thought I was I'm charismatic and I can you know blabber a lot like on the show I'm really natural because we're just talking but when it's a curriculum I was stressed for three months preparing for this I had a lot of pain and anxiety and I tried to work through and when it came down to it I'm like okay I'd rehearsed and thought I'd done but then there was all just that battle of not rehearsing as much as you should rehearse and all that shit and when I got into the stage and I listened Sam actually videotaped a couple of them and I watched him and I'm just like yeah That's good for a dungeon, but that's not mainstream and and so I had my moment where I just had to admit I'm not that kind of teacher I'm gonna start sticking with things not saying I'm not gonna teach again I teach orientation twice a month I still teach I do panels But I'm just gonna try to focus on things that don't stress me out and that I can do effectively And so that was kind of my thing that I had my little drop about is because I really envisioned myself being You know able to grow to a certain level as a teacher someone who could just go out and teach classes because I've seen so many amazing teachers And I just I'm not that guy. I don't I don't write I don't remember I don't I just don't we had this talking to kitchen yes, I'm very high bars for yourself You have I just I don't I'm not beating myself up I want to make really sure that people understand but when I grade myself I grade myself against who is the best to me like if I talk about like Neil deGrasse Tyson or Richard Dawkins or any you know Any number of charismatic teachers Steve Irwin, you know the way he taught about animals and was so articulate about you know Where they came from?

I mean he was just there were certain vibes and people I'm gonna grade myself against that I'm not gonna be buttered that I'm not that I'm not gonna be buttered that I get a D Next to these people that I think are in a but I'm not gonna I'm not gonna create a bar that doesn't exist Just so I can feel good about myself. So that's that's my Everybody loved it and I totally understand what you're saying, but there were not that many people I think we saw that I certainly didn't see it when I was watching you so I definitely think we reached out And we we definitely were able to specially in that In that environment I definitely think we were able to reach out to people who would not necessarily be coming into our group So I think we were able to reach people that would not be able to make it to threshold who are not our normal audience See what we see how it comes in so I think overall a success they liked us and we'll see what we can do next year I got it. I was gonna tip you almost got a tip I Was gonna do perverted text I said why not just make it all the geek stuff okay gaming and nerd stuff and whatever cuz creepy obviously All of that do you understand what I'm saying so let's just call it I wanted to pervert it again to that kid earlier you said to an order to fuck you have to be restrained and what else was the Oh my god, this kind of creepy. I like adult concrete.

I did not like I used to be that kind of con going like I've been to the ABN you know cons and I was staring at women from afar like she's gonna fuck me if I look long enough I know she wants my dick. Oh, she looks towards me. It's true. It's $20 for your It'll make you love me.

Here's $20 Creepy, what are we talking about? I have no idea. It's something. It's something I love This is the thing that I grew up with you know being very sci-fi with Star Trek and Talladill donics It's Getting your partner off without necessarily being next to your partner With your mind like when they just speak to women and they come spontaneously I'm not doing it here like that movie with Sylvester Stallone where they put on those rocky no no that was Demolition man.

It's quite similar to that. Yes. No, I'm sticking my mental penis in you You get a couple of years just made a bit of joke on her water I'm gonna be no rematch. I just make the bitch come If I may think it so this is something very near and dear to my heart I've always liked the idea of tech mixed in with pornography as you know pornography dictates technology Which is why we have Blu Ray instead of HD See the dick in high death.

No, no I'm Blu Ray meaning the technology in which porn is recorded nowadays Oh, the players instead of Microsoft's version of it which went away because nobody bought their porn Similar with YVH Bill Gates wasn't really good at getting the bitches to do it right, huh? Yeah, well just the popularity of it shifted to it also went to the consoles at the time went to Blu Ray's Xbox had their HD disk I think I think this was H but yeah, we got two of them here But fucking each other right now Yeah, well, I mean what's it app shut up in your download light? It's really high I'm used to this so it's okay, basically being able to Feel what your partner feels with technology an example. I have my partner Mina here She has a little sex toy that inserts into her and I can she connects with it via her phone And then I anywhere in the world with an internet connection her phone connection can connect to that phone as well and control the speed and The sensation of said toy that is awesome, which I thought is that is that is pretty hot when I first saw it was I had to have it And I got and now it's inside and now it's inside it is not it like it's a great radio.

So it doesn't say you're gonna try it Yeah, I mean I thought about but yeah, but what I did find that was really awesome is in Japan This gentleman made a toy that connects to his penis and it also has tits in the front So you can massage these lifelike right and it connects to certain POV Which is point of view porn, which is very popular nowadays where you see from either the guys point of view or I've actually never seen like first person shooter like yes, literally person should literally yeah, my dream is killed and It's it connects to this this pornography and what happens on screen happens to the device So when you are fucking the girl or in the show itself or the movie itself It's fucking it will actually go up and down on his penis right so and I thought that was pretty cool Because that's that's pretty good technology to watch porn and have it be a part of you instead of just sitting there jerking it or sure I'm sure like an in Dylan But John Haver's how about the vagina so on hocus it's a it's a prototype. So it's not available yet in a matter of Year so but they found something that was very close and very awesome. It's called the onyx and the pearl The onyx is for the gentleman. It looks like a pocket bus.

It has a motor inside of it that simulates of a China Yeah, I know it doesn't do any of the bad stuff Just the good stuff and then the pearl is of course the part that goes into the lady the Shaped it Guys one the onyx so boogie's version of the onyx the old school analog version would be what you did with dr. Do's Towels and the oh yeah, yeah the toy vagina video that she does how to make a toy vagina I have a towel yeah where you just take a towel you roll up a toothpaste and a surgical glove and then put a thing on it and You take the tube out. It's just to give you the Paper roll plastic bag and yeah good times Low tech low. Yeah, these are really expensive.

I mean for sure people about $400 But that's where the technology is moving now another thing that's coming along. I saw that was really nice is I have a Basically goggles that connects your phone and show you a virtual world wherever you look so it's like virtual reality I'm I'm really curious about that stuff now I mean they've got that's now you can be like in a virtual strip club or something and like look at stuff Yeah, so basically what you're saying is with the like pocket pussies and the virtual like reality glasses and everything nerds Will never leave the never the detachment of humankind is going to this is right this is going to happen But that's good because the people who shouldn't be reproducing will not yeah Absolutely. I like hearing that. I love it.

It's it's like ready player one I mean when it gets to a level to where you can I mean we're already it's technology is slowly Roboticizing us sure it is slowly making us that work everyone it is now Actually a fucking Mary Kay, but you suck at this word of the day thing No, but I mean if you think about it just in the last 20 years I mean how many and not all over the world but in some cultures a child has a cell phone by age two three Whatever they have that they don't know that's called bad parenting They don't know what it's like to live without that and eventually as the technology grows more and more It's pretty much just gonna be like hey, you know We can just put this chip in your head and then you don't have to thump up your phone anymore So I mean it's heading that way and now with virtue Abysus jabbing her mike stand and into the creepy's Into creepy see-through you little large mr. D2 there, okay? So anyway, yeah, so I can totally I mean is if you've been watching okay, I'm just you know my age whatever yeah I try to I'm 48 and I've gone the gamut of when gaming virtual reality and stuff started back and you know pong Asteroids back man. I was there OG But it's amazing for people that haven't seen the progress of this that of maybe you're only in your your 20s or 30s And you didn't see the start it's amazing to see how quickly in just 35 whatever years to go from two sticks bouncing a Couple lines across the screen to now you got like virtual rally like titties now you have titties and something basically sucking your dick And just I mean I can tell the difference just from from a timeline point of view another 35 years just another 35 years is Going we're not even think we're well the VR the VR world which is what I want to talk about next is Actually been growing at least in bounds sure the device I have is it was very new at the time It connects to your phone the higher end model that I want to get is called an HTC Vive Vive my vibe and it's it it's a very it's a room-based system You connected your computer you have glasses and you have two remote controls and you enter an entire world where you can move around and interact and Where's the one I have you hope you stay still and see everything and the graphics in the the Vive are very lifelike is that the one You can draw inside of yes, and you can actually I saw I saw that literally Kathy what my picture Being in a room and you have a wand in your hand and you're in a room and you draw yourself Okay, this is the actual room So I don't I don't trip over the desk or whatever you can actually draw your a line And it'll have a whatever color line or boundary man you go okay?

I know this is my boundary now I've drawn this boundary and now you can start drawing in three-dimensional You can click this thing in front of your face and make a face and then walk around it and make the back of the head And you can now in this with your virtual thing on you can now walk around this thing that is three-dimensional You can create Harold in the purple crown exactly and then you Yes, really Where it could go is you wait with ideally like we're talking about fucking things right no people will what will happen with is you Can create this now people who are actually good at art will create because you can save these you know What you have built and then you will be able to share this with other people so obviously you can create art and people will now You will have social media websites I'm making all this up but you will have social media websites Yes, that will interact and share your rooms with people and people will be able to you know enjoy and masturbate and companies will develop Hot chicks in these virtual things that you're imagine going to threshold in your living room Absolutely like you can you if they have 3d cameras, which just sit in a room and you can Lie stream it basically. I mean this is we wouldn't do that You know, let's just say another club that does allow Assholes in here just pucker to live with it when they're just squeeze the bean say you have a threshold membership Say you have a threshold membership you are a member you can in a you know make it secure The logistics of our unimportant, but okay, so you want to go to Disneyland. Okay, let's just go to Disneyland And yes, and you want experience as the Caribbean, but you are In the lit you can't You could still put these goggles on and through some way experience the entire Hirety of the ride you can look to your left and there's a fucking pirate you look to your right and there's another pirate fucking You can actually in the virtual world you can actually interact with the pirates and not have 12 fucking security guards beat the death out of you I got stuck in pirates in the caribbean one since a kid for like five hours, and then you had to walk past and they're like man They'd like literally they're like the fucking CIA. They're like, okay You can walk through you touch a fucking thing and we'll break your fingers kids.

I always touch them Well, that's pretty cool I like I like where this is going I can surely see where this is going sexually and as a as a non-optimist I can definitely see where this will be the end of social interaction for a lot of human beings a lot of them Okay, yeah, yeah, we're very interesting so We got here. I'm just check the time here. All right. We got time for spanking.

Pankin creepy Can you take down that sign of pinkin Jamie? I want to go over there. Thank you We got this is special. Thank you, buddy.

Can you grab that microphone and pull that and let that hang down? Oh, okay Go ahead and get off the table. So Jimmy can just lay on the table lay on the table put your head down Yeah, oh, that's right. Yeah, but right under the microphone.

That's it mark. You should go and stroke Jamie's hair Because this is now part of it before I'm gonna go up to this here in a sec and Here's what's exciting This will be the first perverted podcast listener that has never even you've never even been to threshold have you never even been to threshold You just you haven't been to a lot of kink community have you okay, so it's river relatively so of course I'm pervert I'm like well, you know, you're here in the audience, so she just reached out and I'm like well sure come down You know, we we're not big enough, you know that we have to worry about our size too much That Really just walk into it Okay channeling the spirit of gene wilder pause that rivers, okay, thank you for winding or whatever he said you know what I'm saying whether one good so anyway she came in and Oh, geez, I'm not gonna ask if I can give someone newest making of course be careful this What's awesome about this is she has her head she has long hair She's very pretty she has her head shaved on the side so like the girl Mohawk and she doesn't know who bow out wow was Yeah Now I get to live out my little fantasy here Really nice bottom that is so now you've done some spanking before right? Okay, have you ever done king? Have you ever done an anal hook?

Part of the process all right, so you'll stay after okay I'm just gonna go ahead and start giving you little pads as a new bottom That's done minimal things you of course you've listened to the show You know at any time if you're uncomfortable you can tell me to stop and and Kathy will make me stop No, no, I think that would be a bit with the nerve gun. She'll make you stop don't shoot me while I spank Like the boot she's got like the equestrian kind of boots on thing kind of sexy all right Are you ready to get a little swat here comes? That was a good jiggle that was a high jiggle factor. I like it.

That's beautiful now scale of one to ten How is that a one so is it okay if I go to like a four or five? Okay? You come back any time I'm good Still very Okay, this isn't a contest by the way. I'm trying to out you know I'm still I'm not heckling okay All right By the way she has pants on she does she does she does have a couple good ones It's a good sound on that one.

It's all about the long haul anyway Nice very good in the double hand Oh Providing the preferred a playground for us to record it if you are in the Los Angeles surrounding areas visit threshold. Oregon and Visit find out a visiting the find out about joining their kinky family. Thank you to everybody Thanks on going everyone in the chat room Mark and bunny Jamie and sticks Finally to abyss boogie and myself If you have questions comment their ideas, please email that perverted podcast at gmail.com and visit pervertedpodcast.com But that's you that's you. Okay, go for it.

Okay. Thank you Clothes a show I'm cropping right now. Oh my Okay, yeah, you're kicking us out of the love left