Wow, this is so... Did I get it? What I wanted to hear. What?
You've never seen that? No, that was a... I'm in the age of a motherfucking young man. No, I know you be fireballs.
Young man, I'm middle aged. I know. It is bird hair. I have ear hair.
I cut it out. Why are you grooming in front of an audience? I just had an ear hair and it was bugging me and so I got a lighter and you just put stick it in your ear and... What?
Isn't it disgusting? Hey, I'm middle aged. That does not give you the right. Middle aged means I don't give a fuck.
To make an audience watch you groom your ear hair. With a lighter. That doesn't make it any cooler. It does not.
Hey, one day, I like how the young guy, the young guy that's sitting there is just looking like a motherfucker. His name is Ryan, not the young guy. Ryan! One day, one day Ryan, you will be old and you won't give a fuck anymore.
And you. And you'll be like, I got ear hair, I'm going to burn it out on her. There's any people around watching. No, no.
Don't give a fuck. Don't give a fuck. No, no, no. Ryan will be classy and actually get like an ear hair trimmer.
Thank you. No, no, no. Yes he will. No, no, no.
He won't be broke ass like you. Whatever. Just another thing. Just another thing.
I'm not even ear hair. Not anymore. Unger. Unger.
Microphone. Yes, Unger. What? How you doing?
We're blowing it down down. It's a wonderful day, Count Boogie. It's good to hear from you, Unger. You having a positive day?
Yes, a very positive, insightful day. A day where things are wonderful everywhere. A wonderful day with rainbows and sparkles and glitter. Oh my gosh, I just wanted to check in with Unger because he's happy now.
I don't like having a... I just like how his cheeks are cracking. You don't like having a... Like he has jawbreakers and his cheeks.
It's like this. It's like this. It's like a joke. It's like a joke.
Everyone in the room is just creeped out by enthusiastically motivational speaker Happy Unger. Who's living in a van? Oh, I'm talking about it. He's living in a van?
Don't know. He was quoting a very old...now he's choking to death on his own cud. Jesus Christ, motivational speaker. That's very exciting.
It's going to be that show. Just want you to know. That was last show. That was last show.
That was dream DM. I think we should go. Welcome back to this. Welcome back to this.
She was in the continent of China. You get it all wrong all the time. She's still the thing said China. What thing are you referring to?
She's had a picture that said LA to China. And that's so I'm like she's in China. And then she said Singapore and I'm like, isn't that China? No, it's its own country.
In the continent of China's. China's not a continent. I thought China was a continent. Is Australia a continent?
Yes. Okay, okay. I'm on a roll. Do you got one?
Is America a continent? North America is a continent. I thought China was a continent. North America is part.
Why is it shaking their head? No. Part of a continent. You got your own wrong.
You got your own missing form. I would rather just hear about Abyss and her adventures. In the continent of China? In the continent of China.
Fine. Have it your way. How did it go in the continent of China? Well, I didn't go in the continent of China, so I wouldn't know.
I heard that you planted the PP flag. Yeah, in multiple countries. Yes. Who did you say those two?
Those pictures. I sent them to Boogie. You really Boogie? Where are these pictures?
They're stuck in my cell phone where you download light. Yes. I actually asked. Why would you text me things?
I don't know how to get pictures. And your phone to mark. I thought that's what I figured that's what he would do. I thought he would just hand it to Mark.
You should know better. Well, there's pictures of you doing what? Didn't you have fish to eat your feet? I did.
I had foot fetish fish. That's why I took a picture with the PP flag. I was like, nice to see that picture. I would have loved to see that picture.
It's in my phone. You can't figure out how to put it on his phone. So I just burn it out like your ear here. My ears feel great now.
I took a picture in every country I traveled to. I made sure that I wasn't in a place where I'd get like, you know, arrested. Yeah. I didn't want to do it.
In a blueprint. Yes. I was like, I'm not going to maybe do this at a temple. So I took one in Singapore.
I took one in Singapore. I took one in Singapore. I took one in Singapore. I took one in Cambodia.
I took one in Vietnam and I took one in Thailand. So you held up your PP, your report podcast, Business Cards? Yeah, I took one of our business cards and, you know, post with the business cards. So I took one in the airport in Singapore because I'd be really careful in Singapore.
I heard they're very strict there. They're very strict in Singapore. Like they'll chop out your tongue for chewing gum or something like that. No, actually it is illegal.
But they don't talk about your tongue. They do. No, but they do. They put you on a child's hill.
They will find you. They will find you if you chew gum. So, but it's the year of the rooster for a two years. So it was literally it was the year of the cat.
So of course they had giant roosters in the golden cocks everywhere. So of course I stood next to the giant cocks smirking. Okay, with the with the preferred podcast and then in Vietnam with the preferred fish. Was that creepy?
Yes. When they eat you, like, oh, that's getting really pretty bad. Yeah, no, I was like, dude, this fish. And then actually I had to laugh because one of the fish got territorial.
Oh, my foot. I was like, dude. I started chasing away the other kids in a lucky face. Like you literally got territorial.
It was like the one foot. It was like the one fish foot. Like it was like the fish got like, it was like, no, this is my foot. You can't have this foot.
Hell yeah. One fish policy. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. This is a policy situation fish. But was he willing to work extra hard to make the foot happy? He was not.
So he got the fish. So, but I was like, so yeah, he got territorial chase on the other fish off. And I'm like, really? But it was funny because my two friends I was with, I guess, I guess I guess I guess I was like the salad bar, basically, of this situation.
I guess I take too good of care of my feet, basically. So they just wouldn't eat. I was like, I was like the salad bar. The other two were like, you know, like the steak situation.
So like the fish were like, yeah, like the fish are all over there. So I guess that's where he got territorial. He's like, fuck off. This is like a salad.
There's like room for one. Well, you know what, send me these pictures so that I can share them with our listeners because obviously Boogie won't because they're trapped in his phone. So I only saw one of them too. So you've seen one of them.
I saw one of them out of there. Wouldn't that be neat if I could figure out how to get that out of the phone. Oh my God. And then I took one in a, took one in my Pokemon go that won't work, you know.
And I took one in Cambodia and then one in Thailand. Oh, the Hill Gardens. Did you see? Oh, yeah.
I went to the Hill Gardens and I took pictures with the, I took pictures in the Hill Gardens with our, our PB. Isn't that where you go up? And it's, no, that was actually being on this one in Thailand. Okay.
And it was like all these huge statues of people being like eviscerated and their eyes being pecked out and all this crazy like stuff. And I was like, oh, for chewing gum. No, this was actually for like, you know, not being pious or stealing someone's right rice. That was one of them.
Yeah. You know, don't be serious about the fucking rice. Do not steal someone's right rice. All right.
I planted the BB flag. Very good. That's nice. We should maybe ask our listeners to do that more often.
Everyone that used to do that? Yeah. Yeah. It's just send all sorts of crazy stuff.
Yeah. So if you're somewhere, hold up a little sign that says perverted podcast and then send it to us for our vanity and we put it up under. Anywhere you want that you think it's going to be creative. Like what I would love.
Okay. What I would totally love if you're at a funeral. Oh, geez. And like the caskets open, you know, just to be like there with your grandpa fucking just all over the podcast.
Oh my God, that would be awesome. I would pay for that. Just you have an excited. Just looking at me.
That would be bad. The guy's dead. Wow. It's like a dead grandpa.
Okay. Fine. An uncle grandpa is too close. I get it too.
Too close. Dead uncle. So what's this? Perverted podcast.
MKV. No. Wait, I can't read that. Yes, you can.
It's Ebola panties of doom. That's what Unger said. He said, is this like Ebola panties of doom? And he was Elsa.
Is that my writing that you're laughing? Yeah. Kind of. So that's Elsa.
Yeah. So I'm hanging out with Bunny and you know, things and stuff and so it's time to put on some clothes and so it's dark and I'm blind. Oh no. Oh.
And stop laughing. These are very awkward panties and why is there a picture of Elsa from fucking frozen? She's like, yeah, I'm like, oh God, don't baby do that. So she's all.
So yeah, no picture though. I just, I forbid it. Literally. Did you fit?
Very sort of. Sort of. My junk. Oh, did you bat wing the shit out of it?
I just bat winged it. I just bat winged it. Yeah. It was just like the blob just sort of squeezed out the side and rolled down the floor and absorbed some elderly man or something.
Yeah. That was. Why don't you have an only man who bent on the floor? Well, he wasn't.
He was outside the door. God damn it. You shouldn't. You shouldn't be outside the door because you know, yeah.
Carrie's in the audience. Wasn't she our guest? She was. No, she's in the audience.
She's been demoted to ring popping audience. Well, I'm glad that you guys could share that. It was good. She.
Oh, the next time pictures because maybe that could be your held garden and you can have that part of your perverted podcast. No, that would bleach someone's eye out. That's when you can have your, that's where you can. Bonnie's nodding her head.
She's. Stay there with Zeke, the inflatable unicorn and a Chloe is here. Mass okay. Mass okay.
You can do it. Mass okay. We have a whole group. So that's it, right?
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Okay. Hey Connor. All right. And I had green lights and it was like this whole thing and it was dark in the room And I just had one light over my table of stuff that I was bending and so it was cool and people were like what's in there?
You know cuz it was lights and then can I Turn the fucking lights on kill the mood and then you couldn't really see me or the table So like I sold nothing the whole day. What are you showing nothing? What are you showing? I let me just say that that is not the reason that is not make any money It couldn't have been because of my ass's grass paddle.
That was an amazing paddle. Everyone should have bought that Everyone should have bought that. I'm looking at the pictures that you were supposed to download for our listeners to see whatever So, you know bag of dragon sticks Enlightened or possibly bird-lax for your piece of mind Please know that the author of every post we talk about has specifically granted us permission to do so Chloe is that slime that you put on your ring pop It's non-toxic so you know that slime stuff to our pervert about gas listeners, you know that stuff Now it's on the floor. Yeah, I'll eat it now.
You know, there's the slime that stretches that kids play with well, you know You got a bunch of little in the room and there's a little funny He was like oh look I have slime and literally everyone grabbed it and started eating it and You know and so Chloe's been putting it on her ring pop and so now this just confiscated the goop So we're getting into Fed Life stuff not a moment too soon Little's oh, we're gonna start with that. Yeah, let's do it. Yes. What's up?
Hunger did you want to? You look very excited. What? How did the goop taste?
Not not fantastic, but it's been a week. I don't remember exactly You should eat some more today not today. Although funny that you're talking about little cuz that's like the topic in the Okay, right now. We're talking about who how many stuff is everybody has oh?
And Bell says hi and was curious about the topic of course because it's Oh, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, tiny, it does sound like a rock song a rock ballad Oh Remember oh yeah, that's about little yes. This is a post called what being little really means by the pixie I'm a little afraid actually of things in front of all these little's but and I will say this is just her point of view This is what it means to her she says being little for me Let's me hold up my hands and say I don't know once in a while It's being able to step away from the adult mask I wear the fake it till you make it model you live by it's stepping out of the life You so carefully sculptured to be the child you are inside the little who never got to be little the child who had to grow up Too quickly the teenager who begged to be understood Oh the little's like that Oh smattering applause I'm going to go that was longer to sing them Because that's what we say apparently all of us is an addiction to litter word that buys us an extra few seconds So I enjoyed I definitely enjoyed the article or the post whatever There was a Kind of some of the things I pointed out because the poster talked a lot about being taken care of in that moment where you can be taken care of And that and that her little I think was a female right okay So whatever but there was that they said it's absolutely not sexual for them Their little space is not sexual and that they were very much very descriptive of what would appear to be either a daddy or a mommy Taking care of them and and so and that's wonderful There's that's a huge portion of the little's communities that are non-sexual and very daddy mommy oriented But I also wanted to point out that there are lots of little's that a are very sexual or hypersexual little's and we have some nodding little's In the room that agree with that and then another thing is is there's a lot of little's that don't have mommies or daddy's and don't really They want to play with each other they're they're not interested in the dynamic of being taken care of by a mommy daddy whatever caregiver figure and even bunny had talked about Like dominance that dominant little's that like come into their a little but then they kind of want to take And they don't tell tell tell the thing go to the mic go go go go go tell the thing Like in charge like their princesses and they make the rules they want to be in charge They don't have somebody making rules over them, right? Okay, the root the salt little's the root is salt little's good I like that I like that a lot it's good I find this this whole topic a little fascinating because there are so many different ways that people interpret that as many different ways as people would interpret the words submissive or dominant and I I think that you and Fauna had started the LA Littles parties that you don't do anymore But one of your main rules was there was no sexual play no diapodially It was all about letting your inner child out and it reminded me of this post because I The few times I came to your LA littles party and I thought I think you abyss at one point helped out without I Thought oh this this is not at all like I've seen other littles Especially in the dungeon during a play party because there was no sexuality involved and and it was just my friends These were all people that I knew coloring and singing to Disney songs and having a great time and I had not encountered that at that Point in my life yet in the scene. I had only encountered the kind that did include sexuality in their play so I'm always fascinated by these littles.
It's something that frankly it scares me and I it's embarrassing to admit I was never able to access that part myself because I didn't want to let that part of me out It's it's in pushing a very vulnerable state. Do you think you're you're kind of bratty side because I've heard your bratty side And it is it's not it's it's it mean you maybe you don't identify Personality is very it very comes off very like kind of I wouldn't say little with her though I'd be a middle like a tween more teenager like but I would not say little Well, I mean very much me. It's it really is me. I'm not I don't know I I suppose that you write How do you would stompy you know But it only goes so far and I don't find any joy in taking any further than that or or being totally obnoxious I mean and I see the person I'm playing with doesn't like it I immediately back down because it's no longer fun.
So I mean you have a little don't you this um I've seen you color loaded questions. I've heard you say you're a little I Actually put my little way. Yeah, there are times in your life, right where? It's it's so vulnerable and this is exactly what I mean for me.
It is too vulnerable to let out Yeah, I'm actually I got rid of my stuffies and Put that away There's a lot of times where people will take take that time off. Yeah, no, I can't be bad vulnerable I yeah, and I don't think it's different from anything else we do in the scene, right? I if there are times when you back up I backed off from the community for two years Because it was just it wasn't working for me and I needed to do other stuff. I could see I like the way I can parallel it would be Would be getting out of a relationship say with like a Adulment, you know, right would be like I wouldn't be able to get into a submissive relationship right now like right now I'm only talking You know it'd be the same way with My little my it's like there's no way in how I could be that vulnerable with anybody probably what two three years before like I put the Daddy away completely because I had a relationship that I did really poorly a daddy little girl relationship That ended very poorly and so I had said no fucking way I'm doing this again I thought I'd never do it again, and then that started coming out It's not surprising to me at all that we all have such strong emotions about this because it really you do have to trust a person you're with a tremendous amount to let that side of you out and you have to be willing to be vulnerable and I have more trouble doing that than I do cutting I will allow people to cut me more often and I will allow myself to be a little Sure, Chloe.
Yeah, I actually put my little away For quite a while like Eight nine months ago, and I totally retreated to my kid inside Which is why I've been experimenting so much more with kid and play than I was before which is kind of good Kind of gave me you know To explore that side of myself more right? Something that comes and goes sure the ebb and flow of the little little little little well. Yeah, it's it's a very vulnerable place anything Anything where you give up power and that is one thing that a little is it's you it is vulnerability and it is where I felt safe right Cool well, it was a great post and I think maybe people who are listening who have never who I've never heard of it Or they've never experienced it themselves It would be surprised at all of us talking about vulnerability and how hard it is for us and I don't think that we talk this Intensely about other things that people would think we would like impact play or hard edge play No, because this you start to get into the head you start to get into the space Yeah, that builds intimacy and a lot of people have a lot of problems with intimacy I know I've had amazing problems of intimacy my whole life and some of these things that we do in these dynamics where you kind of Get into someone's head and you let down some of these walls and you expose parts of yourself and there's there's a big risk There's a risk that there's gonna be pain and there's inevitable pain in most relationships because most relationships end So it's just that thing that you have to kind of gauge yourself And that's probably a good segue into why you shouldn't just jump into dynamic relationships like this because you should take some time and build up to those things because the pain can come very quickly if if the relationship ends in a bad way, right so good post And possibly check in with under and see what's going on in the chat room because I keep seeing him make faces and stuff and look over here I don't really know what's going on in there. Yes, Boogie.
Yeah, it's a wonderful day. Yes. Thank you younger Look very sunny and shiny today. Sorry guys.
I'll go for a walk outside now a walk outside. That's wonderful Anything going on in the chat room? Well, we're going back between Talking about a little longer right because that went weird any under tiny under could be able to know the reference Um and and stuffies sure and and figuring out a way to come to a party and bring like lots of bats to play with like different sizes and Baseball both actually we're talking about both. Oh bats and bats.
Yeah, but like plastic bats a little with bats the foam bats That would be weird if I was walking through a dungeon and like 30 people all had bats No, just one person. Oh, just one person with an arm full with bats many bats because they can walk around all night and say I'm Batman. Oh Oh, oh, oh my god. Oh my god.
I just felt my I just felt my uterus drop I didn't even have a fucking uterus and I just you just gave me a fucking male his direct to me. That was so bad No, no, no, no, no, no. You happy to see me? Ah why it I even recommend asking you just turn right there.
This is the chat. This is what we do I actually love our chair for her to podcast.com click on the live chat button monday's 8 p.m. Pacific standard their own little inside jokes and their own lingo going on. We're going to talk about Ronald.
See, that's an inside joke I have been told. It's freaking weird. All right, the next post is by Tarot NL who wrote, as he dominant, you will fuck up. Nope.
And this is, he says, especially for Boogie. Nope. No, he doesn't. He didn't say that.
He minted you in the head. He says, the image that you see in your daily feed can be deceitful. All those experienced dominance with years of experience and tons of submissives. It looks like they never make mistakes, but they have, they do, and they will fuck up.
And he goes on to actually discuss, in some detail, some of the things that he's done to fuck up, he's just put himself out on the lines. There's Shox, that times when he's gone too fast and stepped over boundaries. Times he ignored the subtle warnings from a submissive that signaled the end of a scene, but that he instead chose to see as part of the scene, times he overestimated his ability because his ego got on the bed of him. And most importantly, times that he actually abused his position of power, which I found this list to be a very brave thing to do.
Not everybody finds it easy to admit times when you really fuck up, let alone go into detail about how you did it. Let's have a podcast. Let's have a podcast. This show.
We revel in it. And he finishes off by saying, I have fucked up, and I will continue to fuck up. But the biggest fuck up I used to make was hiding that fuck up. You should see it as a means to learn, to grow, and to become a better dominant.
Well, as somebody who doesn't fuck up, I can speculate. Nobody believes you, but I know. I just thought I thought it sounded nice just for a minute. Great post, and it is good.
And there is also, if you want to go to the next level of predatory manipulative shark, which I often do, the whole thing about showing your vulnerabilities as being how a deficit to your ability to get dates or play partners or something like that, anyone that has been around long enough in the lifestyle understands that all of these relationships are based on honesty and intimacy and negotiation consent and talking to people and getting to those deeper levels. So I think it's well understood that if you are a phone, obviously if you're fucking wreck, then that's a bad, that's a warning, that's a flag to whatever. But I think we've gotten to the point in our community, at least at Threshold and Around and Shirley on the show and a lot of these posts, is that people are really seeing the value that I find that people really feel safer with somebody who admits their mistakes. Because if you don't admit your mistakes, you're never going to change those mistakes.
That's a warning flag. Somebody who kind of tries to play off that they don't fuck up or they don't have vulnerabilities or they don't do things wrong, is now that we've been in this lifestyle, for those of us that have been in the lifestyle, we know that's the warning flag. The person that can't be open and honest and be human and say I'm human and here's what I did to change that. So I kind of felt that it was great to just continually see more examples of people stepping out saying, well, here's my list of shit.
Well, and also to act like you just walked into the scene knowing everything is just douchey. I mean, no one just walks in going, and I'm an Uber God, except for boogie. Yeah, that's true. So it's one of those things that if you don't show vulnerability also, you're not human.
And realistically, you're not going to get played. Everyone may worship your feet for like 30 seconds, but then it's not. They'll find out soon enough. Yeah, first time you like fart during a scene.
It's not. And they wait for it. They wait for it. I think Bonnie and I were playing with someone yesterday and we were playing in my vlogger, just went out of my hand and literally just went across the room and she just started fucking laughing.
And it's just so if you are overly serious, they all wait for you to fuck up. And they like see, then joke and heckle behind. You can just see their faces. But if you're like, ah, whatever you're douche.
The thing you've cut all those loop bloggers. Oh, those were the best. Because he would catch his glasses. And fling them fling the flogger one way, and the glasses the other way.
And then I'd be blind. And you just push the submissive against the glasses and say, stay there, because they're not looking. It's only everyone else in the dungeon. You look totally dominant when you didn't.
Everyone else in the dominant. Everyone else in the dungeon can see your shame. I actually wrote down, I said, OK, let's take this guy's list and see how many it's like a matching game. I'm going to have to get out of here.
Maybe I can add a few of my own. Definitely I went too fast. Oh, me too. Early, especially.
Absolutely. Just like the kid who named my cane, Ichabod. Right. I went too fast on cane.
And he's like, well, that was nice. Thank you. I don't think I'm going to be doing that again. Come on.
OK. Yeah. When you kind of have that eagerness, and you're so excited that you kind of forget that this is a human. You know, and it's like that you're beating.
And so you kind of you're like, oh, hey, yeah, that is. Look, that's a reaction. I know. So all three of us are.
Yeah, yeah, OK. I went too fast. This really does make just overestimated my ability. That was just literally had neon lights around it.
You, you. So overestimated my ability. No, not you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But no, I mean, that one was definitely something. See, I always think I always go more psychologically, more in line with Ds and dominance. I really believe like, oh, you know.
I've definitely been off more than I could chew. So where I feel very much like, oh, I understand Ds, you know, and I've learned and watched a lot of YouTube videos and too much. And then all of a sudden you're like, OK, let's get out. Because I'm pretty good.
You know, we're all pretty creative and going, hey, I can just write out. I like scripting. And then, OK, let's follow this thing. And then the human human comes in and it's like, wow, you're dynamically different than my script.
Just, well, this isn't how I planned it. Notice that a lot of these mistakes come when you forget that it's another human you're interacting with. Most of the dumb mistakes really are just thinking about being a dumb and not actually reacting to the individual that you're playing with. Or doing abuse, my position of power.
Yeah. I was too casual with feelings of love. Yeah. No, not me.
Yeah. And all of a sudden, oh, this is do sheer than I wanted to be. Yeah, because now you're looking at me. Oh, you're turning a good shade of red right now, by the way.
How am I going to make myself look cool? No, not. No, I'm going to get out of that one. It's just that people have feelings.
And sometimes you make a justification in your head that said, hey, I disclosed who I am. And I told up front, this is what I am. This is what you can expect. This is what I'm not going to do.
Knowing god damn well that people develop feelings. And if you treat someone like a fucking queen, why would you be surprised when they don't want to give up the crown? So I have definitely been guilty of that. And I mean, I still have the same approach that I'm just going to disclose and say, this is how I am.
This is what I have to offer. But I'm a little more sensitive now on knowing that you check in more. That led to more communication. Instead of just like, hey, I negotiated in the beginning.
And then we've been playing it for a couple months. And I don't check in anymore. There's definitely more conversations that continue to happen on that one. Oh, that was a...
I think we need to cut it off right now. Yeah. You're going to dig yourself out. Yeah, a loud anger just slipping a scene.
A loud line of my impression of what others thought of me to try or do things that I wasn't in control of. I started adding my own, didn't check in soon enough, and head off sub-drive. Yeah, committed to things I didn't want to do and played in authentic. Oh, yeah, God.
Let's stop, Buggy, please. What? Oh, what? What did I do?
What did I do? I forgot about hard-limbing. Have I done that? I forgot about hard-limbing.
The middle of a scene, Buggy, really? What did I do? Uh... Mark is raising her hand.
You've done it multiple times. Every one of your play partner is in here is raising their hands. OK, wait a minute. Let's back up a little second.
There's two. Two. Yeah. Let's move on, please.
You don't want to rehash that one, trust me, because... I'm not taking you by some of my cohes. You may want to review this. It's going to be a tap.
Let's move on. Thank you, too. And the PIXE for those great folks. Yeah, that was lovely.
That was lovely. That was good. Does anybody have any Silicon lube? Yeah, he was outside of purview on that one.
Oh, shit, he totally forgot about purview. I like to get it. That was outside of his scope. Yeah.
I did my guess word of the day. Oh, ho, ho. What? Yes, I researched it, but time and time.
We totally bugged up because boogie pooches, the fat life stuff, jingle. Was it supposed to be... It's different. It was before that.
Our word of the day is purview. Purview? Not purview. Purview.
Not purview. The kitty is getting it. I think that's actually why she pointed to it. No, I know what fucking hard limit I forgot about with you.
Oh, my god. Was it a really intense one? It wasn't really. Huh?
Yeah, there was a couple. We'll talk. Yeah. I burnt your hair.
Yes. I remember the smell still lingering. Yeah. Purview.
It means... That's what it means. It means an area within which someone or something has authority, influence or knowledge. Paying attention to people's hard limits is not within boogie's purview.
He looks very confused. A penetration? Was one of them. Oh, this is going to happen.
That was a hard, weird, right? Yeah, it was. Never had intercourse. Yeah.
What? Who said intercourse? Penetration, man. Why are you beating your head against the microphone?
I remember that was the rule. Any form of penetration was one of her hard limits. You penetrated her. Was that written on a page?
It was actually on her page. I didn't read the page. I'm a dick. You are a dick.
Oh, the loud noises. Back slapping. I have a feeling you said. Okay, well, no, no.
I mean, Mark's done playing with him and he ignored a shit on the earth. Oh, shit, time. What? Look at Mark.
What? Completely sideways, but if you continue to play with the person who violates a hard limit, was it really hard for the miss? Or was it a firm? Please don't.
I'm just not going to exist anymore for me. Aha. That if you continue to play with someone, even though they violate a hard limit, it says a lot about how much you trust them to make better choices in the future. So, yes, they were hard limits for me, but I know for a fact that boogie is not an unsafe character and that just because he has moments of faulty memory, I don't want to.
I'm glad she's not talking directly in the microphone. Do you notice I'm not telling her? My bad. That doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve to be trusted to play with him.
I think those are two very interesting points of view because I really would question why somebody would. You must have known him pretty well to continue trusting him. Oh, I like to think I know almost all my quick partners pretty well. I mean, you can still have also mess up and stuff like that.
Boogie is... This is good. She has no words. This is good.
I did start this thing. Yeah, I had to bring it up. What? I told you.
I almost out of the woods. Right? I mean, you did. I was going through like a midlife crisis before the start of the show and I'm like, bring it.
I just wanted... I got to go through this. I got to cut these fucking shallow layers off. I mean, you have to do it during the show.
What am I going to do it? I mean, this is the time that's going to make me go Jesus fucking Christ. I'm really full of shit. Everyone knows like, I'm cool with like, hey, I'm full of shit.
But sometimes you just got to dig in there and just rip open the chasm and go, oh, wow, I really thought higher of myself than I should have. I need to hear this shit. I'm not saying I feel comfortable right now because everybody's listening in Australia. I'm very happy to tell you this shit is often as you like.
I'm your friend. I'm here for you. But if I don't learn... Which I kind of giggle.
I'm like, he brought this up between his ex and former play partners. Yeah. And then the new people are in the room, like just looking going wins my turn that he's going to fuck me up. Yeah, I get it.
And we're just going to have more conversation. Well, first off, Chloe, it's been a while since it's been a long time since we played. And obviously, I care and love pretty very much. And so hopefully I have learned a lot of these things.
And so I'm not opposed to apologizing for things that might have hurt you or pushed your limits in a way that was just non-consensual or just not thinking of your feelings. So I apologize for that. And you're absolutely 110% forgiven. Thank you.
Yay! You guys do play again, maybe reading go shooting. And what I was saying wasn't in any way a judgment or an indictment of the person who experienced being having a hard limit violated. It just highlights that we need to discuss not only what is the limit but what does limit mean and what do you do when you do fuck up.
Because as a dumb and as a sub and as any other title you want to give yourself, we're going to fuck up. Yeah. And I actually... Yes, that word term hard limit I think we bandied about too carelessly.
I think that not everything is a hard limit. I think sometimes I say, well, it's a very firm limit and I'd be willing to go. But not now, maybe sometime in the future. There are all kinds of different ways I can...
It also depends on person to person too. A hard limit, maybe a hard limit for like say I'm a play partner or that I may be a play partner with this person and it may be a hard limit but it may be more of a plausible limit with this play partner. Right. But if someone says they don't like someone and they don't want to do that thing, then that's whatever that is.
Whatever that limit is, whatever the adjective would be. What do you call anal with me buddy? What anal with you? Yeah.
Fucking hot. That was a hard limit buddy. You know it wasn't a hard limit. Yeah.
It was a hard limit. It was a hard limit. It was a hard limit. No, no, no, no.
We're going to, yeah, force anal. The anal that we did was not forced. No, but I'm saying it was a hard limit. It was a hard limit and a hard limit that eventually as time went on became a soft limit and eventually became something you were...
I'm convincing. You know, I presented a good case and you said maybe this won't be so bad. And no, but that was something that evolved. And I don't think that...
I think it still doesn't negate the fact that when you said no, not happening or not my go to, that was what you said. I actually remember that. I remember that what it was three years ago. And I remember we were in that position to like, this is now becoming an incredibly fun show that we were in that moment.
And I remember it was one of the best lines she ever had. And I actually remember it. It was like, oh yeah, and I'm pushing up her butt and I'm like, so what do you think of of this? And she's like, not my go to.
And I'm like, okay, pull him away. I'm just going to go down on here something. That was something you said no in the moment. And then it evolved into something where you were like, well maybe it was just I had bad experiences with it.
And then hopefully we had good experiences with it. And you liked the work that we did with your butt. Maybe you got better. Well, I definitely agree with what I've been said about it being person to person because I recently did the slave auction over at Sanctuary.
And when you're writing your negotiation paper for that, it really puts into perspective what you allow your play partners, where you're more comfortable with to do versus what you're going to allow a total complete stranger who was literally buying you for the night to do. And that was so difficult for me because suddenly all these things that I love and totally enjoy had to be placed under soft to hard limits because I'm not going to let just anybody do them. And so yeah, I would definitely say it varies from person to person because as you play with someone who has a more different type of play style, you begin to expect certain things. Like slapping back slapping has always been a hard limit for me.
But when I play with Boogie, it becomes a soft limit because I know that's his play style and I know that I know the way he does it and I allow it to be something that I will allow to slide whereas if it was someone else, they'll do it in a way that I absolutely hate and I will stop his name for it. So I totally agree with that. Well, we're going to have to cut something out of the show because we're running long. You know what?
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to sidetrack the show with what it should have had I am, but it's... It happens. But I don't know.
It seemed organic and I like these discussions because we got to have discussions because this is what happens when you bring your exes on the show. That's definitely something. That's definitely something. But this is what we deal with every day in the lifestyle.
If we can't have open discussions about these vulnerable topics with each other, probably shouldn't be playing a lot of these things. Probably should not be playing at all. If you can't really be honest about who you are and have these types of discussions, then what the fuck are you doing? You need a better skill set in that area a hundred times more than you will need it when you do fire play.
Yeah. Because that stuff is very technical and it's one, two, three here in your safety things. And that is... Also, if you go, I'll fuck.
You can move if there's fire. Like honestly. But if something is going to leave you mentally scarred for the next X amount of whatever, that's harder to do it. That doesn't really put a little burn-o-ing on it.