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Apr 11, 2017 1 hr 7 min

Show 97 " Under the table"

from Perverted Podcast Hosted by Count Boogie

A strange show with extra tension...lol Other than having a beautiful girl chained under the table, we talked about being less structured in a scene, Abyss rants against the CDC, Boogie talks about wax play and we help a listener have better sleep.

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Now then! Ugh. Let the burping begin. The bunny is chained under the desk, or whatever you call this thing.

Don't touch the bunnies. What do I do anything? You are...I'll touch you. I will touch your hand if you try to release the bunny.

Don't touch... Why are you looking at me? You can control her. Control Cathy.

Oh please. What the shit y'all? Do not release my goddamn. Do not release my bunny.

I have a wrong shit. Are you guys ready to do a show? No. Let's do it.

Jesus Christ. The following show is for mature audiences only. Listener discretion is advised. And if you don't like it, please go fuck yourself.

One, two, three, four. Your sex life is quite lame. Scared that your desires might be strange. Come and join the Kinky World of Play.

Hello and welcome to the Bird of Play. Oh. Sorry. Why am I just getting the looks of disdain for everyone?

Maybe because you have a chain of bunny under your desk. Oh so your jealous is what you're saying. I want to cut her loose. You are not cutting loose my bunny.

She just said so. I thought you were going to be like, I just want to cut her. I'm like, oh that is going to be like that. I want to cut her bad.

Don't cut the bunny or cut it loose. So we have a special guest in the audience tonight. That's why there is the disdain. That's why there is a disdain.

That's why there is a disdain in stereo. Oh that's sweet. Do you want to introduce your friend? Well it's my lifetime companda.

Basically she is the reason I'm leaving she is a good thing Like she's a reason I'm leaving She's the reason I'm moving back to Ohio for the majority of it. I have a lot of friends back back east But she is the major reason I'm leaving. She's all like and they're sending little hearts to each other Creepies insinuating if there might be some possible That's true. Yeah, cuz no one's thinking it, you know You say you're moving back to Ohio for a check and of course none of our listeners whatever Okay, just you guys who said anything about women, you know, there's a demographic here, you know, we got a portion audience that think So just for the record with you guys you guys aren't love birds.

Yeah, now. We're just bestie just bestie So you guys cuddled though we do a lot of cuddling we cuddled the crack girls can do that mark cuddles the hell out of her family As well, it's very kind of creepy sounding But now she she is she is the wind beneath my wings, but God Party into my pancreas that was so cheesy. Well, actually no one cares what you say. Oh Look at that.

You guys plan this. You're all. Let's see how horrible I can talk to you. I understand.

Yeah, so She's a that's the reason you keep getting the the stairs of equal and equal hatred. Well, no, it's not here It's just it's just we finished you we finished each other's disdain Just you know nice. Well, I'm glad I could be here and and I like that Kathy is moved just so I can get the glare in perfect stereo That's that's that's that's so great for me, but Kathy who should be happy. Yeah, because Kathy got me dick I did get me Gets back here.

I'm not you get back under the table. Oh, give me the chain. Oh look how dominant he is. Oh, he's so fierce But she listened so he is uber dom so How did you do that?

Because it's her and so I kind of have to hold it now As lighting her hey, I'm totally coming to your defense you two are asshole. How am I gasling? I'm trying to keep her under the table. I said like how did she do that?

You're like cuz she's bony and then you're like oh Fuck you both she did not get you let her out and she did not do that on her own and she came back when you called good girl Assholes I'm getting a little hot. I'm gonna talk about me dick. This is gonna be that show. I don't think I want to talk about me dick Why not?

Sorry you're not mean dick. Yes, I got me dick like the dick was me like a rock. Yes. Oh, it's Creative Explorer was being mean to me.

Oh, I mean, but you said you like that There's something wrong with me and I like it what he's so describe me Like Do you have any cheese Yeah, he knows I don't know he just gets mean once in a while because he Cuz I was full that you have to say I liked it on the show. Oh So yes, so but I you know, it's the whole cognitive dissonance thing You know, I hate yourself for like I don't like people pull in my hair It's it's such a horrible trigger for me that I will lash out and hit you and yet when he does it and especially when he's mean It's just a total turn on so it's you know, I don't like people being angry at me. I don't like confrontation I don't like any of it when he does it. There's just something about that power exchange that really does it for me So, you know, I come back from the weekend with him and boogie be like how to go and I said I got angry dick and go in that Good her angry dick Spin man What I'd say just done up in Cobra don't you I was gonna talk about our mystery listeners abducted by aliens, but they finally Had okay, so market party with Saturday and so there was a listener and I'm not gonna say their name because I didn't get permission But they sent a really nice email.

They're like, oh my god. I've listened to like 40 or 50 She's on like four like Which is good. We'll take it. Um, so she's listening like 40 something episodes And so she's we're gonna be a zombie and and she's like my my whatever daddy man Whatever She's foreign one way and he's far in the other way and we're kind of in the middle and so she's like you guys keep talking about Threshold and talking about threshold.

We just really want to come and see threshold and we want to meet you guys I never answered that email. I was hoping you would see it and so I did see it and I'm like, okay Sure, I'll be here, you know, and market party starts at 7 p.m. And so, you know, ladies get in the free before 9 But I said, okay, you know, I'll be here I'd love to meet you and so like all of a sudden it's like seven eight nine the party was just obnoxiously dead I don't know why I was that dead but it was really dead and all all my my people left, you know, all my girls left So it was just sitting there kind of like and so it's like 10 o'clock and you know, by now you kind of figure No one's gonna show right so like 10 30 and I send a bunch of emails I'm like, hey, you know, it's kind of late. I'm assuming you guys are gonna make it I'm going to sleep, you know, I kind of live here So I'm not gonna stay here just to wait so I went to bed and sure enough I wake up at like two in the morning, you know And all of a sudden there's like these texts like hey, we're here, you know, here to meet you.

It's got I'm like, ah god damn it So I started sending hey, you know, I went to bed and you didn't give me a time You're gonna be here and sorry hope to get you next time you know, kind of bad, you know, because I wanted to be there and And so no answer like no answer Sunday, you know, no answer No answer just all day and I'm like, oh, like something happened. I sent these, you know, I'm like, hey, okay You know, whatever and so like literally an hour ago They she sent said yeah, we came in and they let us look around real quick and and then the dungeon monitor yelled at me because I Called out my phone to text you Which is a big no-no apparently and I'm like yeah, she's like really weird and like I was you know in school or something and so I had to explain her I'm like, you know, it is it is really it makes people really uncomfortable where there's plain sexuality going on if you're pulling out Your cell phone so I apologize up that happened, but it is really important and she said I love the club It looked really neat and we'll come back so so so yeah, so we go the extra mile Listen, there's apparently go What are you gonna do? Enlightened or possibly perplexed for your piece of mine, please know that the other of every post we talked about specifically granted us permission to do so Creepy was doing this little dance with his to your jingle wearing his willy Wonka glasses creepy Do you have anything going on in the chatroom? We're talking about aliens being kidnapped by your friends and stuff and it's so the so they actually kidnapped the aliens not the other way around Correct, also I wanted to say something about the bunnies.

Do you know what the bunnies favorite music is? That's called mute right there Muting chat channel just That's the joy of silence He sounds like hunger doing Which is the only way nobody does Arnold as Arnold. It's a boring accident, but everyone does this over exaggerated version There's a comic once talking about it that it just has to be No, nobody talks like that unless you have like fucking you know something wrong with you Actually work with a chef who was we talked just like that anyone said you have to order stuff and I'd be on the computer with I need high gluten flour I Had a man I had a man teacher who it was it was a find the coefficient, but it was with his accent It was find the koi fish nice It made me happy if you want to say something get up into the mic say to the mike so we can hear you Really you couldn't get up jesus A little lazy she's a lazy commander I had a chemistry teacher who would you had to fuck her the equation? Oh?

You must fuck the actor I fucked your equation all right. That was damn good. It was a damn good fucker. If he's trying to talk Would you give him the mic please this is just whether I have a mic or not?

I'm just gonna talk. Well then good. Okay. So much like show me your teeth Shit what I had I had a my assessment teacher and it was show me your teeth Oh, but it was because of her accent.

It was show me your teeth and I just like I beg your pardon I certainly have dinner in a movie kind of thing. Don't you think lady? Yes, we have a post from anguis at jay 23 seconds Enguis at I don't know what it means and I hope I'm saying it right she wrote a post called BDSM doesn't have to be so fucking polite Or polite. I know apparently some people think we should be apparently so she says somehow I feel like raw energy has become almost taboo in fear people will think we are these orgitastic sex fiends I remember someone once talked about an old school sadist described this prim proper fellow with his three bags of various toys So intent on his skill and awesome leather stuff.

He forgot the person below his vlogger. He was so focused on moving his wrist just right It's not cutting dry. It's not technical. It's me getting in your bubble taunting you expecting a reciprocal gesture not afraid to touch and interact with me for fear It will be misconstrued.

I want to feel my top or my bottom. I want the energy I don't want to just put on a show for people because honestly I care more about us and I really don't make for a good show anyway Well, actually I do I do I do I do want sex and orgies I Read I'm like well, this isn't for me. I'm not polite Well, I think depending on what part of the country you're in what your community is like who you're dealing with and really what your age is because if you were more involved with the High protocol Is high pro That's if you if you're high protocol to know it was very like Structured everything is rules and structure is high protocol. Oh, yeah So I guess it depends on your personal experience here at threshold We're all a bunch of just purbs who just freak the fuck out and we do whatever that we want But there I I do know people who are very intent on the technical aspect.

They don't involve sexuality in their play and it's it's they like it That's great, but it's not a lot of spankos are like that a lot of spankos are like really like no This isn't about sexism and I know a lot of bottoms that are very much not about sex They're about the kink in the in the SM I mean, yeah It's it's for it depends what turns you on and that's that's basically what it is is it's and when I see turn on It doesn't always mean, you know, it would turn to crank. It's not necessarily directly related to sex It's what gets you know, we'll get you to card, but it's I know I know we get you to correct. Thanks. She's on you man.

Anyway, she's Ew penis cheese. Oh That is gross. So disgusting. Hey, don't judge my penis Women talking like that is disgusting.

I mean because I'm not fucking polite That that's really where you went really I don't know. I was just trying to call back Yes, you did you brought it home You didn't I didn't go on a mess. So basically, um, I know I do There now so basically So basically where the the techniclass it comes in like even with my protocol It doesn't mean sex isn't involved It can you know their protocols can be like bend over and display. I mean it can just be part of your protocol.

Yeah, but it's um I think what she was talking a lot about is the spontaneity of the the grab someone by the hair and throw him against a wall And a dick angry dick. Um what she was like talking about was the passion and the what she was talking about is she likes the idea of You know being a safe saying consensual, you know player, but missing out on some of the raw Passion and aggression and spontaneity because you're trying to put on a show no because um you've talked everything to death because everything is about Technique because everything is about it's pre-planned and pre uh, you know Cookie cutter scenes and everything has been you know negotiated to the point of death. Why does he have a knife? Creepy Creepy, I'm not doing I'm listening to a biz.

He had a knife you left alone with all your toys over there boogie. I'm being good Jesus Christ. Would you take care of the freakin chat room, please? Knock it off.

So so back anyway, no spray bottles anyway Not in the computers, but basically I think I'm not just a good knife away Thank you, but but I think it's definitely I can understand where she's coming from Yeah, so I think much like being polite and you know making sure that there is the consent and the Negotiation is always important, but remembering that there is passion and there is connection involved in all of our BDSM is also important Yeah, and she even says in the post I I'm all about safe words. I'm all about negotiating But then once you get that all out of the way Little more passionate in your play. Where's the fun in it? And I you know I agree I think we've all I mean I remember early in the lifestyle I went I went to another dungeon for a while and there was a number of people that had kind of that like literally you would sit on the Side and you could call their scene like move by move by move by move by move by move now They're going to do this now.

They're going to do this now. They're going to grab the hair now They're going to do a look now. They're literally it was almost like a bingo You know like a bingo game of what these people had and if that's your kink to be very organized and methodical and whatever Then that's your kink, but I think it became more about Like she was talking about where you're no longer connected to the bottom This is about me and my kink and how I do it and what I'm doing and now the bottom is kind of secondary You're just the pillow that I'm beating and so I've always kind of looked at that and I it just never really appealed to me I mean there's times where you go into a scene and I have a plan of action And this is what I want to do and this is what we kind of talked about and then it just kind of goes in another direction completely And then it goes sideways and not even necessarily sideways But sometimes it does and then you have to kind of decide am I going to follow that and be more organic and see what happens? Even if it does go from straight laughter and fun to tears and catharsis Am I going to follow that because that's what's more real in the moment So that's kind of what I took away from this is because I've I've seen that and I try to not be that Because when you do then you may miss something like I've had scenes that started totally laughing and then went to like weeping Buddha, you know, you know kind of scenes and we said okay Let's go for it and the person ended up having some really important, you know breakthroughs during that So if I would have been so stuck on how I look and what I'm doing and my thing that person and I would have never learned anything about that scene I love this post it was really good.

Thank you so much Apparently the blue light is on. Yes, creepy. I actually have something that There's someone in here was talking about how basic managers are a thing But sometimes people take that as a cue to take advantage of you So some people try to have manners, but not necessarily be polite Explain yourself. I really don't understand yourself.

Well, I think what she's trying to say is that Being polite can seem as kind of like a front and not necessarily So it's not genuine that their flight or the person's taking advantage because they think that they can take advantage of the person I was trying to say was being taken advantage of because you're you're probably you have met as the top or the bottom it doesn't matter. Yeah, but um it seems like she uh takes it as kind of a front and And everyone else is kind of saying, you know having manners is one thing But being polite is a little bit too PC. I have I kind of disagree with that I'm generally polite until I don't until I have a reason not to be even when I am brash I'm generally still polite sure. Are we in a weird game now?

I think so. Are we talking about the light and not polite? Is this word of the day? No, not word of the day.

We're just describing. I think word of the day is dead I don't think it's about me. I think well, I mean, but the fact that you like it. Let's just continue doing it.

No, but it doesn't that never mind. I mean she took something different from it, but it is a great post and and it really does depend on your Experience what what community you're in what you're viewing if you're in a community that is very hyper what it's all about the technique And it's all in one side of the spectrum. You're gonna miss the passion And you're gonna say, you know, you're gonna miss the spontaneity exactly but structure does not kill fun I mean negotiating and consent and discussion do not kill fun But there's got to be an equal balance of both in my opinion I would say if you're playing with somebody new then I like to air a little more on the side of caution with sure What you're gonna do as far as being organic But then once you played with someone a little bit well, then then we can kind of just enjoy setting some basic parameters And then and then just kind of going and seeing where you go. I think we're on board.

I don't know Do do do let make you all get happy. That's right. That's right. Look at that.

I'm fucking looking at you. Oh wait, we don't have one What we do have is What are we gonna talk about why we don't have a perverted? Well, okay, let's talk about your box We can let's talk about the box. We can talk about I don't you know, we can talk about that post But for fuck's a what a damn perverted box your perverted box.

No man box He was leaving out a word and that's talking about your vagina Yeah, I thought you creepies Mike is still on whoops He's been good so far. So you have my privileges until freaking out until you thus kill your Bug That's Well, I like creepy on this side of the room. I really am picky about hunger. I really am creepy's a good alternative hunger creepy's doing good I'm not saying but I'm not looking at you I Is your validation you are valid.

You're doing a good job I'm saying I like hunger and I like you over here when you're doing stuff on this microphone I want it and showing signs and doing your thing and holding up and rubbing Kathy, you know awkwardly. I like that You can come rub Kathy Well, just get over here, you know, so That was like arms to the side. Oh His shirt is half up now and is oh, it's like an awkward one of the poo. He's just hiding her face and fear I do not blame her.

I don't blame her. That was that was an assault microphone off. Please That was off. Do what's really what's wrong with me is that I actually like that Well, you do you do you do you?

That's my Perden mailbox we heard from Emily who wrote tests and says lately I haven't been able to sleep not even after orgasms Oh, I started to listen to more orgasms. Is that your answer? This is not fucking advice. I have to 87 I started to listen to PP episodes and they help we put her to sleep fantastic That's great.

I get through about half of an episode and then I am out damn it I mean this as respectfully and nicely as possible. It's taken that way pumpkin And I said but you guys talk a lot out. It's a talk show especially boogie. Oh, that's true But I don't mind since I learned some stuff and I get some sleep I mean we all this was this was what you brought to the show Kathy the nightly half an episode thing is probably why I had a bunch of weird sex Dreams one of them involved fried chicken keep you up in a way.

I love you guys and the podcast I'm not giving her the clappy thing That was hysterical. I love that you loved it and you know it Ah Hey Give the people what they want. I mean she needed sleep. We're feeling I just feel good.

I feel good about myself Maybe if you keep working at it, you could just get to sleep by the intro the intro will just knock you out Just keep following show is for mature I mean we zone out. That's what we do. It's true. We just don't zone out.

I mean, Mark is pretty much asleep at this point Mark is in the chat room doing chat stuff and taking pictures. That's a version of zoning out. Money has goop. Thank you Emily.

I'm so glad we help you Thank you Just weird Wait, no, listen listen listen listen. Listen. Listen. Okay.

Oh, because right now we're about a half hour into the show That's the halfway point. So now she's falling asleep. Oh, yeah, that's true So now we can start doing that sleep suggestion stuff We can talk some smack a bit. We can totally just know start being like it makes you happy to think about boogie's penis My bulbous gorgeous penis.

You are now breathing deeply. You are asleep with boogie's penis magical boogie Penis with a sheep on top of it Sheepness penis. Okay. Where we going?

And now the penis has 11 arms. Oh, this is cool And the penis is handing you cheddar cheese Of the sheep And now there's little people running and they're all about three inches tall and they're climbing in the rear of a china with multiple What this isn't your dream wake up? Jesus my dream is to have multiple appendages come out of my Okay, it is true mark would be so happy She would look at how happy she be if I could just all of a sudden spring out with 10 things I can grab her Those like one of those like donnasos with the frills. Go With penises Now this bitches gonna have some nightmares.

You'll think twice about sleep at your eyes show now You're right at the 30 minute market Emily we love you so much for writing us What the shit what don't give it those kinds of nightmares? Give her the good ones with fried chicken fried chicken Where did she get the fried chicken? I don't know I'm dying to know Emily if you're listening How the fried chicken figured into your sex dream being eaten When he's eating me when you're doing the bunny under the chain under your table. Oh, right?

By buddy. Hey, that's my leg. It won't grow back. I heard all right Find out what if it glips out whatever For your peace of mind just knows something that here it is the nurse that loves to hurt for one more cakey health Oh It's her last cookie health and you can get this right what I don't have it written down Kathy's like We don't have to because I thought we can though the nurse likes us can this segment so we're bringing it back Here we are we are classy on this show.

We are so classy. So this you have some medical stuff. You have some rant I should have a rant on this one. This is gonna rant.

I am I am right away. So Normally, I love the cdc cdc the cdc which is Christian Christian temple center what now I've heard disease control. Oh that yeah That's really normally give us real real good information So recently I had a little bit of an incident with the cdc. Well with their guidelines at least So I had a potential lover coming along and as far as I go even if we are going to be you know knocking boots You're we're gonna be using protection and I still want testing beforehand because fun fact unless you are doing no fluid exchange Certain you know stds can be transmitted via will Or what or Lee has will herpes onto someone skin to skin right?

Can you mind herpes? They can it can be transferred via you know Or Lee or wait you can not get off cheese. You have like the attention span of a man. Yeah boogie cheese Mind herpes starting to get you Not gonna do these you can also get so I require having Testing beforehand if we're going to be sexually intimate now do you require like people to get like a full panel?

Yes, okay So that's where he got interesting So this person went got went to his physician got a full panel and I said okay. I need to see results and He's like okay cool. He was yeah went to get his results. He's like They just ran an HIV test.

That's a full panel. I was like what very thorough Like Ed's STD cleanse like what and he's like get your muffler changed. Yeah, I was like your full STD panel So I originally was like that's not a thing. That's not a full panel He's like I agree so he went back into his doctor's office and he said no guys I want a full panel like I was like okay, so I guess they didn't have a blood so they went you know He goes in gets redrawn they go back three days later gets his results.

He's like okay They said I'm all clear and I'm like all right well What did they touch you for and he's like they didn't tell me and I'm like but it's full why should we tell you trust us? I'm like all right So he gets he gets his results mailed to him and it's the whole time his dick is just fucking shivering No, and he gets it back and it's it's it's only three of them. It's missing It's missing hepatitis and syphilis so it's gonorrhea chlamydia and herpes and I'm like what happened to gonorrhea and what happened to syphilis and hepatitis these are standards in a fucking panel and he's like Can we just have sort of say this like uh so he goes back for a third time This guy's dedicated he wants the badge and he's like he goes back this is hot in the cot So you know and he goes back and this poor dude is just like and he's asking the doctor's like dude Really what the shit you see these balls? They can't get much bluer dick fuck and he's like and the nurse the nurse goes Well, we don't it by standards.

We don't give a testing and unless you're symptomatic on hepatitis and syphilis what the fuck and I'm like what? No, that's not actually a thing even at the free clinic they test for syphilis So I'm like no and I'm like so of course and I'm like what's danderson going off So I'm I'm of course enraged. I am enraged because I'm like this is bullshit If someone is asking for a full STD panel, this is something that any medical Facility should be happy to facilitate you have someone who is trying to actually be a responsible sexual person Is this what it is this is he paying for this or is this an insurance insurance and like he was said it You know, he was what he has full insurance. Yeah, but it doesn't mean they want to pay for it It doesn't matter.

It was it's covered So basically he goes back finally gets everything tested happy happy lucky whatever So I look it up because at this point I'm living I'm like what the shit people and I go to my handy dandy CDC website And I'm horrified. Oh no Dear cdc they have they have displeased the abyss. What the shit? Let me start and this is directly from the website Oh, no, if you are sexually active getting SD getting tested for stds is one of the most important things you can do to protect your health Make sure you have an open and honest conversation with your sexual history with your physician and whether you should and find out whether or not you should be tested for an STD Find out whether or not you should be yes be tested fuckers If you're not comfortable talking to your regular health care provider about an sd about stds Wait, why are you not comfortable talking to your dog?

You're about fucking stds Because it matters. She'll be mad at you. There are many clinics that can provide confidential and free or low-cost testing That's what they start. So this is this is the standards now All adults and adolescents from the ages of 13 to 64 Should be tested at least once for HIV Well, once is yeah once okay because you can only catch it once yeah, but but at least once It should only be tested once annual committee of screenings for all sexually active women Younger than 25 As well as older women what the shit y'all With risk factors yeah with risk factors such as multiple partners Or sexual partners who have had sexually transmitted infections Okay, so we got chlamydia and HIV once this is only comedia for sexually active women Okay, we have annual gonorrhea screenings for all sexually active women younger than 25 With multiple partners after hey after 25 you can't get it right syphilis HIV comedia and hep B screenings for all pregnant women and gonorrhea screenings for all at risk pregnant Women starting at early pregnancy with repeat tests as needed and screenings at least once a year for syphilis comedia gonorrhea for all sexually active gay Bisexual and all other men who have sex with other men or who have multiple or anonymous partners should be screened Frequently for stds ie other every three to six months so bisexual lesbians and hats you're good.

You don't have to get tested Yeah Yeah, so sexually active gay men and bisexual men may may Benefit from or frequent HIV testing every three to six months anyone who has unsafe sex or shares injectable drugs equipment should get tested for HIV At least once a year Those are the fucking guidelines Wow, tell us what it is that most upset you about that first of all If you are straight and male There is Seems to be no reason for you to get fucking tested according to the cdc according to the cdc Why is all of the testing put on women? It's could something to do with that you're inferior to men that's obviously got to be the answer They're pretty just a yeah, okay. You weren't supposed to back me up on that it's kind of So you're saying this is why this dude's insurance company or well Insurance I'm guessing the end I'm guessing his doctor's office went off of you know the normal status I had another issue with another potential lover who's I actually called up his physician and got into it with him I actually got into a I called his physician and got into an argument with his physician And it was over herpes testing and he and I and they didn't want to do it He didn't want to do it. He was another insured.

Yeah, and he was he wasn't sure and I said hey Why are you not testing for herpes? He was specifically asked for and he said oh well herpes tests They're not conclusive and I said excuse me. Yes. Yes.

They are the DNA testing shows If you are doing the DNA testing it shows if it's um type one or type two, right? And he's like well, it doesn't matter. Um, it's not the standard unless you're presenting with Um symptoms you you don't need to test unless you have it. We're not gonna test you exactly I'm like so what standard are you going off of sir?

What do I need to get tested if I'm like there it is I'm like and I literally asked the physician. I said what is what is what standard are you going off of? And he could not tell me and so finally I go and he goes oh well, it's just the standard I'm like I'm a nurse what what standard are you going off of or you just decided this is the standard you are going off of? That's more and the doctor said well, yes I said so you're just being irresponsible and not listening to your patients needs and wants Does anyone know that we don't trust doctors?

I mean, I'm sorry. Well, no, it's not that my issue is this is a lot of physicians at this point are not Educated with what needs to be done for sexual testing It is you give the squeaky face. No, I'm giving this week face, but it's not all just about ignorance It's okay. I'm not I'm gonna explain this poorly, but I'm gonna do it and maybe a listener who is more hip on on insurance and doctors and whatever But I have some former professors that that were involved in who actually got booted out because of insurance fraud And as a medical professional so Insurance provides a certain amount to certain physicians And they put caps on it that they're not supposed to put on it saying like hey, you get this amount of money physician You get this amount of money But if you bill all these expensive tests that run their insurance up to this level you no longer get this amount So there's a cap on what they do so physicians will specifically avoid giving patients certain tests that they may need Because it will increase their cap that they have to pay that the insurance has to pay So it's kind of an in you're not supposed to yeah, I don't but it's but it is just that's just the bottom line So a lot of expensive tests It's not gonna be a panel but it's still cost money It's a standard for most still every different test that you do you have to pay for which the insurance has to cover And if the insurance is bitching at the at the clinic going hey, you're booking a lot of fucking tests You're costing us a lot of money.

We're not gonna pay you except for a lot of these like especially with these two These were both two guys who hadn't seen a physician in over like five years And this was the first time they had seen a physician and had I'm not arguing I'm saying there's sometimes there's money. I don't stand alone ball. I understand this is where you're going to contact the CDC And my issue is mostly with these guidelines because if you sit there and say these are the guidelines it lowers the bar It flat out lowers the bar because we're spoiled especially on this show because pretty much everyone in this room Has been able to go to a free clinic and things like planned parenthood here in the states where Gives low cost or free full std panels full So you end up having the ability to have Responsible testing and you know what that's for guys and girls So the reason I'm getting on my soapbox on this and the reason I was so livid about this is if for our listeners If you are trying to be a responsible lover a responsible player because this isn't just For if you're taking on someone to you know have sex within your bedroom But if you are a sexual player in the community you need to know you're You're what your your your history is and what your your current status is for stds so guys You gotta be diligent. You gotta be diligent.

So if you are going to your physician and you're not going to a free clinic Um when you say I need a full panel you need to specifically tell them what tests you need and what should they be telling them? They need a chlamydia gonorrhea syphilis Um and her piece too her feet well. They don't always run herpes to okay. Um, the herpes one you will they'll put up a fight on that one Because almost everyone had well, no, not only that it's it's a more sense of test and that one you can go battle with them Like it's I fight with them and they will do it but um hiv hepatitis um abnc At least a and uh, they seem B what seem being not Hepatitis B and C and then um for the ladies trig there's um Uh, but basically those are the major ones you want to get covered Those are what I would quote unquote say as a standard panel So make sure you go in and have that and especially guys It's it's not yes the ladies go in for a well.

It used to be a yearly A yearly, you know exam for their pap smear that too has changed And I think that's what the cdc banks on is saying the women are going in for a yearly exam So they're gonna run the tests anyway The problem is that is not the case anymore For most women if they do not have any um, normal c's they will be going in every three to five years for a pap smear So that means you have less testing so unless you are going to free clinics or you are going to Your physicians and I'm sorry guys every new part or you really should be getting new testing Be fucking diligent Because that is the only way you will be able to prevent the spread of any of these diseases And if you do get them most of them are easily treated So sorry about getting on my soapbox, but this was fucking bullshit So cdc, I know I don't carry a lot of clout, but Bad bad cdc. This is not happy with the cdc bad cdc. Don't get on a business bad side damn it Did you have something she kind of touched on it? I had a hard time with trying to try to get the herpes test Yeah, so I had to come back if I had an outbreak and I was like, I don't know if I even have it so yeah Usually you bullshit at the free clinic and you just say you're exposed and we were exposed and That's six weeks ago.

Yeah, that's the easiest way to do it is you tell them that your partner, um had an outbreak six weeks ago They're also wondering if we're now the insurance podcast. We are we are the insurance and they want to know how quickly they can become ipz I really do like our chat room because they're kind of dorky That is just insane all right all righty. Oh, you got a fight for your rights to party You got it for your rights There's always a king you don't know about yet. So let's There's always a king you don't know about yet.

So let's learn one now on fetish roulette Anthony was gonna say something about clinics and I forgot to bring them on Anthony Let us let us make that longer I don't think that's my last damn one of you fucking bitchy. I can still get bitchy. You're fucking bitch. Yeah, that's I found I actually knew better than to ask my regular doctor to do this last time I had an exam because I know it's it's all this It's prostate testing.

It's mammograms insurance industry wants to minimize testing and a lot of doctors have been incentivized so Um, so I wasn't completely on pace. No, no, that's explain to show it. Um, and it's it's basically dollars over health And my guess too is there's a lot of politicization to the cdc guidelines and they're it's old and you know, you know They're also doing something stupid. They're probably looking at statistics and saying the statistics say these are the most likely outbreak groups So that becomes their guidelines, which doesn't mean no one in the other groups is getting exposed Everyone's potentially getting exposed remember that what they did with HIV in the first half of the 80s Oh only unnatural sexual prat.

I was a vague bullshit. Oh, what you mean is gay male sex and turned out that was all bullshit So it's not new this kind of stupid going from a long time, but I found a place Um, if you are local to the Los Angeles and Hollywood area, I actually I believe they have places all over United States, but you can look up cut in the UK your fuck. Uh, yeah, and then you can't your fuck. Um cutting edge testing look them up online They have a place in Van Nuys in the valley.

They have something they call they have a lot of a menu of different s tds Called the everything test it had everything of this mentioned including Herp simplex virus one into and hepatitis a b and c Um and all that other stuff, uh, and I was 250 for the entire thing Um and the amazing thing is you can show up there as late as four You don't even have an appointment. You just show up as late as four third in the afternoon They will draw your blood, take your urine. They will email you her the results by 8 a.m. The next morning for 250 to better tap dance Yeah, yeah No bullshit thing I've ever seen and you need less actually pull stuff off their menu for less than I will say if that's if without insurance Like that's actually not bad.

Yeah, I think that's yeah And I think that's uh, I think that's pretty much where a lot of the adult industry goes It is and they have a lesser panel that has a few less tests I don't think they check for the herpes called the industry panel the performer panel That's a hundred and something so there's a lot of variations on but I checked if you got all those tests at quest diagnostics That's over 300. Yeah, it's a lot more so it's not a bad price So collect collect your recyclables and save up for your testing So all right who picked this this was mike a last week You guys ready? I wanted to keep talking. I wanted to tell me good voice.

I was like I'd be gonna write like read a soup can and I would have been great The ingredients of a soup can we have a bad that's hot water? I drudginated onions Monosodium The best one home and masturbated. Oh mike a voice. Oh, what it I didn't I just got admit I mean he was very nice.

I didn't masturbate about his voice. He had the voodoo tech though. Yeah, that's true. Fucking crazy Can't download light.

Who is up with that? Are you ready for this? I'm ready go ahead. This Stop blaming this segment doing All right, let's dig in to what was chosen by somebody When you see the candle burning does your vagina start a yearning Does a paraffin drip give you hard nips If a spider monkey has aids in the forest does it make a sound what the shit is that if you answered?

Yes, any of these You might be into wax play Wax plays the dripping or pouring of melted wax onto the flesh of a human if done correctly it can induce feelings of euphoria and eroticism And if done wrong can burn you into the emergency room. We're gonna talk about Wax play I just can't get out of it. You give yourself a plug if I don't know I risk my case Wax play something that is amazing in this lifestyle if you have not done wax play Not everyone is into it, but a lot of people aren't good because in It's considered a very sensual play if done in that way It is an edge play it is really important to say that just because you pour warm or hot wax onto somebody and they can handle it It doesn't mean it's not an edge play it can still there's deals with temperatures You know, there's the types of wax you use a can splatter get on your neck and your eyes wet What was that that somebody just caught? Mute okay Why I'm sorry, but I still don't understand why wax play is an edge play If hot wax gets in your eye you're going to have a problem if you're laying on your back and 135 Degree wax splatters and gets in your eye.

You're gonna have a problem If you have a sensitive skin Then the type of wax is very very important and if the wax is too hot you will burn you can burn up to a second degree burn Quite easily depending on the temperature of the wax which gets us into the first thing that we'll talk about I mean, let's talk about first about the sexiness before we get it We just had a big clinical thing. Let's get into the fun of wax play What is amazing about wax is if you like a hot shower if you like warm things Then having wax on your body, especially if you're doing your whole body is incredibly sensual It's incredibly relaxing and it's incredibly connecting because it takes a long time if you are the top It's an incredible meditation because it's the dripping of the wax It's like the creating of the sand mandala and you're creating kind of like an art on to your bottom and it can be very connecting because The bottom gets so relaxed. It's an it's an incredible experience. If you do full body wax play you can make it kind of a What's the word?

Not you for it. Jesus cathartic it can be the word I used an hour ago. Um, wake up. Adley you cunt.

Sorry Sorry just a little Tourette's there for Emily It can be very cathartic. You can have people you can literally cover someone in wax and then bring out A cathartic experience into the wax and when you peel away the wax it becomes like a second skin There's a lot of things about wax that are very very seductive and people who maybe don't like a lot of hitting or knives or those types of play Will really enjoy the connection. It's a sensation play. It's a sensation play now.

That sounds counterintuitive sensation play being an edge play At a certain level The sensuality becomes pain and then pain depending on the temperature or where the wax is placed Can burn you and then it becomes either you are now doing SM and you're doing it for the pain Or you accidentally do it and you can burn someone and you can burn someone really bad and leave scars and permanent burns and have to go to the er And that's where you get into the types of wax What is really common is you see in old music videos and the 80s and stuff where someone grabs a dinner candle those tall dinner candles And they drip it on the you know chest of their lover and whatever And they kind of yeah, they don't really show you that that dinner candle burns at 140 degrees Which will burn most people there's some people that can handle it but a lot of people that is way too hot for them The heart is not friendly. It's not friendly the rule is the harder the wax The higher the melting temperature and a dinner candle or birthday candles or beeswax or some of these types of candles They all have very high melting temperatures. So if you use these waxes you have a very high chance of the person being too sensitive to take that type of wax So what we traditionally use in the lifestyle is paraffin spa wax Not just paraffin a lot of people say oh use paraffin. Well, there's seven different melting temperatures or more of paraffin paraffin 120 130 135 140 155 160 180 all different all paraffin But all four different types of candles and wax applications not human the type of wax we use is spa wax The type when you ever been to the spa where they put your hand in that bath They put oil on your hand and then they put your hand or your fleet or your elbows into the bath and then wrap it That is just you and it makes it very smooth and it feels wonderful that is spa wax that's paraffin 120 Which means the melting temperature is 120 degrees That's still pretty hot But it's enough for most people to be able to handle if you pour it on from different different distances So there's some things to know and that's what makes it an edge play if you use some people like to take those Jesus candles Those glass Jesus candles those are pretty much the paraffin 120 They're a lower temperature, but if you and it's funny and it's funny because you're doing wax play with Jesus and mother Mary Um, but if a fire is against that candle like they leave those candles burning a long time to get the wax to melt a lot Well, that fire is heating and heating and heating the wax So if you let it sit for an hour and then dump the Jesus candle on someone you have a much higher temperature So some people will then go oh well i'll boil the Jesus candles They put the glass in a pot of boiling water which boiling water is what 212 212 degrees to get the wax to melt And then dump it on someone so if you're going to use that much method Which I don't you need to have a thermometer to make sure that after you melt it you wait until it cools down to around 120 right so those are the ways that it can become an edge play but if you take a little time and you get the right wax Basically the edge play if you fuck up pretty much Let's not forget there's an open flame usually you have an open flame so yes you have to watch area I mean I could give a two hour I've given two hour wax play classes So i'm trying to just give all of the tips but yet still say it is an amazing connecting type of play And it doesn't have to be a pain play if you put oil on the skin first And then pour the wax like a little bit not a lot but a little bit of massage oil or you know Baby oil or something like that a thin layer Then when the wax gets on you it doesn't soak into the pores of the skin and so it literally all comes off in one piece And that's a big thing that's that second layer of skin i was telling you about and the paraffin itself is a isn't easier wax to get off Yeah, the paraffin because it's a kind of petroleum base wax you can use soy wax You know how they have those soy candles soy burns at like 115 soy is actually a very low burning That's why a lot of soy candles they only have them in those tins Because it won't and that's you know if the candle has to stand it has to stand through summer heat and different heats So that's why they put hotter burning waxes so they don't melt So those are some of the things to think about if you're going to use it look for the spa wax You can get a paraffin bath on ebay or amazon which is pretty much you know global And those are like anywhere from 30 to 50 bucks for a nice paraffin bath And you have it for years you can always like put your button it i've i've done that too Um, it really is an amazing type of play but you do have to kind of if you're going to pour wax on someone and they're laying down You have to watch out for the splatter sometimes it's splatter is good everywhere Yes, it wax gets fucking everywhere i have a little song that when i do the class We sing a little wax gets fucking everywhere song break it in half cute But you can put a towel on the neck So if the splatter goes on the neck because obviously the neck's more sensitive than other areas of the body You can put wax on the vagina in penis you absolutely can but it's obviously a much more sensitive area So you have to be very very careful if they can't handle the wax on their chest or arms or back Then don't put it on their fucking genitalia also body hair body hair the oil if you put the oil on the skin first It will help it come off It's still if you use the right wax the paraffin 120 wax the spa wax it comes off in a hot shower if it gets in your hair It's not a big deal it'll come out in basically hot shower what yes, uh hand is raised Wait she needs a Just gonna complain about the time i put wax into her hair and she couldn't get it out immediately But she didn't take a long enough shower i think is what It was a week before what type of wax did you use?

Yes would be paraffin wax the 120 it was the 120 well then did you have oil Not her hair but no on the body no i don't think so i just got in here well then It comes out most of the time i guess sometimes it doesn't so she tried hard enough i don't think she tried hard enough i'm sure she tried just plenty hard she'll punch you in the dick later yes So where were we? Wax it you know it's fine just maybe i've only had hair wax is fine i've only had the hair But it is i mean there's so much to talk about it really is an exceptional type of play and and we really want our listeners to do it but But there are some risks and you really need it gets everywhere so if you're gonna do it yes tarps put down lots of tarps uh they sell certain cans they sell melting dripping candles But you still got to be careful with them because sometimes the wax is a little hotter than normal Don't do it on soft surfaces like beds yeah beds and carpets and stuff like that it will get there if you have a garage Don't don't set your curtains on fire yes be be aware of your surroundings if you're gonna light a bunch of romantic candles And then like all of a sudden you're like doing all this connecty play with your bottom and your drapes are catastrophically engulfed in flames behind you That could be bad so look around Hair hair can burn avoid getting it in your bottoms vagina unless it's soy so you can actually put inside because it's again But yeah paraffin going inside you you can get a UTI there's so many This really this really isn't a 10 minute But it's a good primer I'm kind of argue even with the soy like anything entered into the vagina can still give you a UTI or a UTI or a UTI or a UTI or a UF like I would still argue like you put anything in there it's you you run the rest risk Aware yeah, but it is fun wax wax play is is amazingly fun and put a finger in the poodle When all else fails everyone here but make sure it's not covered in paraffin wax What are you gonna get a BTI? No, but I mean but but infection what what? Look at that for every show and that is our show.

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What the fuck? What am I doing? What images on the show? Look parting into the Cheerios cheese penis cheese penis Emily He's trying to sneak a blue light special in there.

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I'm not doing it because I know he's gonna do some shit Do it Upon I'm talking you in the dick what I guess basically What did the gardener say when it turns spring and he was excited he wet his plants But he was Portland's in the house Straight straight banger right next we're done

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