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Dear listeners, but here we are together coming off an amazing event. But stage we were all there. We're going to get into that. Shane just returned from the doctor.
We're going to get into that. And I'm going to turn myself. I just got back from the dentist. Yeah, what you know, minor stuff.
But I was thinking it's very intimate act in the dentist. They got their hands and like, I don't know what you guys dentists, but I kind of have different ones every time I go in. I need to go to the same one. I go to my main guy, right?
So he's like, I need, he's like, if you consider it a visual, I'm like, you ask me every time I'm in my dude. And so anyway, I have considered it in a past. But so anyway, but for other things like cleanings or like a cavity here or there, I just get different people at some offices like a dentist here in Toronto. Anyway, so I had a new woman today and I was just laying there like looking at her eyes and just in Toronto.
Yeah. And like they're just their hands on your mouth. But we just accept the normalcy of this kind of weird arrangement. And I'm like, I don't know, like they get drilled on my gun.
I'm like, anyway, I was just kind of like sitting there like this is weird. And then I put on a basketball podcast and stopped caring about it. And that's all of my problems. Honestly, I didn't tell my best dress.
I'm just like, you know, it's all of my problems. Ryan or so in Bill Simmons. Exactly. So I listened to him actually.
Well, what I was good at Murphy just did a big interview with the New York Times, The Daily Pod. And I listened to the first time and it was already so good that I listened to this. Like I don't want to listen to this. I want to listen to this on the go train.
It's funny. There is like in my mind, it's like, well, I couldn't listen to like certain podcasts will fall asleep. Yes. You know what I mean?
I mean, like I don't want to really organize them in your head. Totally. And the really important ones you want to keep for sure. Have you worked with the right vibe for the dentist basketball, you know, free agency was, but enough about my teeth.
Shane, how's it going with you? Because we both had appointments today. I was in this one. I was playing in Toronto.
Well, Thursday, I tried playing basketball with Mark Myers and we're playing two and two. And I was playing like, I'd say 65 year old. Like I really, I could just shoot really well. Like we're still killing these guys.
We were playing. I could pass really well, but I couldn't get rebounds and I couldn't hustle and I couldn't play defense. So Mark had to guard both guys and broke my ankle six years ago. Some ankles always been a little wonky.
Even now it's really feels like I have like bird bones in my ankles. Sorry, birds known for brittle bones. I think birds are so tiny. Yeah, they have little tiny brittle bones.
Yeah. Birds of big bones. I don't know. Yeah.
So bird. I don't know what that is, but every step. Are we on there? Oh, yeah.
Yeah. Every step was painful. So I just thought my ankles are fucked and I went to the doctor and he said, you're a doctor. No, no, I went to what is it called?
The podiatrist or something. And because my sister has had orthotics her whole life. Like from the time she's like 12. So she recommended this guy quite highly.
His name is Dr. Drew. And no, he told me he's not a doctor. What I walked in was like, oh, you're not a doctor.
And he's just Drew. I call him. So I was going to do Dr. Andrew.
I called me Drew. And yeah. And then I got fit for orthotics. And he says my ankles aren't broken, but I'm wearing these like big shoes as you can see.
And then he pulls it back and crosses you over. He's hocus shoes, which are very popular and comfy. Are you wearing special shoes? I am.
I'm not doing a bit. Is it a brand partnership with this one? No, no, if it could be like a family shoe, maybe it could have been, but I couldn't spine time to spin it. But these are very comfortable.
They're like the crocs of like normal shoes. But as you can see, the heel is massive. And yeah, that's where I'm at. So I'm going to try to play basketball night and see how it goes, but are you addicted to basketball?
You don't have to go play basketball tonight. You don't have to play basketball the other day. You know, I don't have to do anything, but I need my life to be fun and competitive. And if it's not competitive, it's not fun.
Like, you know how you need your music? I don't even need your music. You don't need your music. Like the business of it.
You're competitive with the business side of it. Maybe just denying everything. But yeah, I, for me, I get enjoyment out of competition and I don't even need to be good. I just need to be passionate about it.
So now I'm passionate about figuring out my health, but I was, I told a guy like I'm 41 and I'm playing about 30 hours of basketball week. It's all done. And I'm taking about 40,000 steps a day outside of basketball. Come on.
Yeah. Because I got this monitoring me. If you go to dinner too, is it not, is it a McRaph and a cheeseburger? No.
Okay. No. My, I'll eat a snack wrap. Right.
If I just want a little bit of calories off of cheeseburger, if I want a little bit more. Yeah. You can't put an account for how much you burn. How do you get 40,000 steps a day?
The way I do it is if I have to think of like a creative idea here at work, why do it at my desk? Yeah, I agree with you. Think about it. And we've been doing more creative shit.
So I'll walk an hour one way, walk an hour back. When I get home at the bus, I get off at West Harbor Station. I live off of concession. And that's uphill too.
Oh, you're from like James North all the way up? Yeah, every time I never Uber. So I always do that. So that's another like, like, stuff.
You come home faster because that's an extra hour. It actually is detrimental. I realize I used to Uber home, but then the kids see me, they get a little bit excited because fun dad's home. And then that makes the bedtime longer.
So she's like, stay out of the house. It's just helpful. Yeah, it adds an hour to it. So anyways, I have this whole plan thinking I'm going to get like.
So do you do bedtimes at all during the week? It's just, it's become detrimental. When I try to do the bedtime. You're not saying that.
This might be becoming detrimental to them going to the better for the family. If I'm at the bar drinking bites. I'm a tenor easy to I will say they got easier at one point. They were much tougher.
I know 30 hours. I'm asking about that. I'm told you I'm reading a D one book on how to train you two days or how you get better. Apparently not if you're in your 40s because it can actually be detrimental because I'm blocking my body up and I'm getting so stiff.
And what the doctor said or drew said today was that my legs are just stiff. He goes, you're just, you're not loose at all and you have no mobility. So these orthotics will give you a little bit more spring in your stuff. Do you think you have to like readjust your game?
So you're not as crazy man? That's the problem. My whole game. I'm just terrible.
I'm just a terrible player. My talent is my standard. You're so understanding yourself. I've played with you.
You're a great pastor. What's odd is I've realized once I start playing shit defense and don't rebound my shot improves like 30%. Of course, because you've got more energy for it. That's why my shots are not doing any defense.
Because I was hitting every fucking shot. These kids are like, oh, this guy can't shoot. I was launching it from just inside the half. I like 80% clip.
That's good. And just passing amazing. So it did make me rethink how to conserve my energy. That's me.
Yeah. You're a good evan flow person though because you have perfect bursts of energy. You know how to use it. Thank you.
Not to I know I'm promoting max is athleticism too much. But hopefully you're going to be able to hoop the way that you want to because bring you so much joy. And the sense of what you're going to do though if basketball falls out of your life. I don't know.
I told you I joined a Wednesday league too with Cone. No. So it's from six till nine of Wednesdays. Oh my God.
These guys are good. They're university guys. And they're really good. This is height me not being able to move like I couldn't move.
And I was playing like my daughter Lucy. Like I couldn't do anything like by the time I got done to the one side of court. They were at the other side. Yeah, yeah.
That's what you can't think of as really good guys. And in your defense even though you're hooping 30 hours a week to your point like you know I was out with the fellas on Friday. I actually watched the draft at odds. Like the nights where guys will get together and do social things you're like I would prefer so much time moving then I would have in pint so whatever.
I feel like that's how you allocate like your shame time. Let's say yes speaking of odds we were there for the draft on Wednesday night or friend AJ and myself and our friend Jimmy. And there was a guy there that when I walk in he is like Mike Vierman from the best hang. And I was like hey what's up man.
Well no first he goes hey Mike. And I did that thing where I was like hey man and I'm in a scramble because I'm like that I mean this guy was drunk and I don't remember. You know you don't really know what that moment. And I'm like nice to see how we met.
He's like no man I just listened to the podcast. And I was like oh cool sweetie. And so he lives in London England. It's from Vancouver originally.
And he's a huge arc health fan. And so the reason he was at odds is because he's part of this sort of Toronto Hamilton reason. He came in to see the bud show and then he went through Hamilton, spent the night at odds. So we all kind of hung out and got to the great dude.
Well yeah. Oh and a chain act by the way. Oh wow. Oh yeah.
You sent me a picture of him. I can tell. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah actually I ran to somebody on the Sunday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday or the Monday after the Muts It shows who flew and she had like a banana bread in her hand and a coffee. Basically I made this like best of Toronto recommendations. Instagram is like part of this like best of T.O. is your account.
And she was going to all the spots. And so she was just like and then she ran into me on Washington. Really? Yeah.
She's a great, she's a lawyer. I don't know. She's cool. Yeah.
No. Aaron was a delight. So shout out to Aaron because I know he'll listen but man great time. Speaking about bud stage there's a listener that really wants to talk about the ins and outs of bud stage.
So we should ask me any question you wanted with the show? Oh, Sharon me with praise. Yeah. What's an excellent show?
Just to show you with praise. But I talked to him for like an hour and didn't even mention the show to him. No, but we do like talking about how it all came. Anything to stick out to the toughest part of like, okay, I have a question.
So when you do the phone in line, yeah, I don't even know if you want to reveal this. But how produced is that meaning? Do you get a bunch of calls and then you're like, okay, this is a good call. They yambered on for too long.
Let's get them to redo the call, condense it and make it show ready. For example, the Friday night call Danica. So Danica and her friends went to the Friday night. I went to the Saturday night.
Shane and I were both that show. And the Friday night call was different than the one you put on the Saturday night. But the Friday night one really hit. Yeah, it was, oh my goodness.
So no, we've never asked anybody to call in and do it again. So we've never done that. But I am going through every single call to see like what would be the best, what works with the set list that we are planning to play, what is an exception that we should make? And so the Friday night was an immense, which we're going to do anyway.
But I was like, he's a story so beautiful. It's like this guy who's a teacher in Hamilton and he came out to a student and he wanted to dedicate an immense to his partner who's been with him every step of the way. It was like a beautiful, beautiful thing. The next night though, there was this guy named Greg who wanted to hear come back home.
A song we never play. And but his message was so good because he had this kind of like this lower voice. And he's like, I wonder that he's my wife. And he was kind of cracking up on the phone a little bit.
He's like, come back home. We've seen you so many times. We've never heard you play this song. So that was a morning report.
Oh, okay. Deep guy. It's a fucking deep guy. So we never say it was a guy named Greg that wanted systematic.
Yeah, you're broke. That's my brother's favorite. Yeah, I'm really a fucking company man. So he's breaking up.
Oh, he's breaking up like, oh, this is really good. But you know, it's funny. It's like there's a lot of so many good messages and there's like some really sad ones. A lot of requests for strong because somebody like even be cancer or died of cancer.
So yeah, but it is sort of like me going through everything and then picking the right one. Good question. And then you have to contact them so you can how do you find them in the crowd? Because I know it's like, yeah, so it's like Andrew and Elliot.
I want to say so on the Friday night call we're like, where are you sitting? We text the number comes in through like the payphone line or whatever. And then Ash, we're like, okay, we want to get you on camera if you want to come and do that be part of it surprise your partner. And so yeah, there's a bit of a showbiz planning.
Okay. And do you like bump up their tickets? Like if they're on the lawns, you bump them up to like first class as it were. Some would say we do.
Okay. So, we're in the 400s. I know what you said. I know.
I love these questions. Let's talk about it. I should also say they're like, we do this phone line bid at a lot of our shows, but at this particular show, we had spent all this money and investment into the stage design, which included like this big video screen live video, which Mark Myers was the biographer for. And so we're like, if we're going to have these screens, like really make a mess of it.
What else? Yeah. Mark was saying he was getting compliments in his headset. So I was wondering if that was just for show, because he's wearing his big like, you know, it's like a very fierce headset, but like massive.
Yeah. And his butt is just like so pronounced and so popping out. This is all photos of how great Mark's butt looked on stage is postured was hilariously more defined than it normally is. And he's got his camera and so like, cause John was at the front, John's at the front shows.
So he was getting photos and videos of Mark with his butt and we were at the side and we're just getting them and putting them into the group chat. You probably love that. You market is so fucking fun to do anything with. I don't know if he's like worn off on you guys, cuz you guys have known him for longer.
And we've made some music with Mark now, but like we have to drive to Hamilton and we're like, can Mark just drive us and Mark can you just drive us to Hamilton and is like, I'll drive you to Hamilton and that was like talking with Mark is just joy to do anything with. But he said the guy likes him in the headset. He said at first he was kind of like a no-nonsense guy or something like that, but he was doing moves and then I was like, Yeah, I think the guy wants to use him for a second. Who's the director of the show?
He's like an older guy. Maybe Terry. Maybe Terry who really runs stuff about stage. Right, so he's okay interesting.
So first he probably found. Yeah, that's such a fun thing. Yeah, actually hung out a lot at the rehearsals in Hamilton that we had. So we were rehearsing Hamilton.
Yeah, we were rehearsing. I'll mention center. Yeah, so we were like, okay, here's my question. How you plot out the rehearsals for the stage.
You tape it down. Like this is the dimension. We had the full stage there because the stage was a whole new thing for us. Because we really wanted to put it on the ground.
Yeah, yeah. So it's on the ground. You have the video. Yeah, and you just do it flat on the ground.
Exactly. Exactly. And we have the video board not set up behind us because there was enough space for that. But it was sort of set up like in the other side of the room.
That's fine. And they were sort of programming the lights as we were rehearsing and we could see the screen and we could play with the camera. Yeah, but we really wanted to have a plate because there's nine of us on stage with the horns and I love like big collective movement, but I've always not loved how like a stage is like a black void hole. So by making the stage white and having Tim move up a little bit and having risers around him.
Yeah, we could really use the entire space and nothing was lost. And there's all these different levels to it, which I thought was really cool. You're right. Because that that bud stage in particular feels sort of very deep and flat and sort of like you'll see a band there and it's kind of just feels really like it's not much going on.
It's deeper. It goes even some of the bigger bands that will have a big set piece. It's just kind of like a cement stage. Yeah, it's interesting.
Yeah. So we spent a lot of time thinking about like how do we make the most of like how physical the experiences because the horns are so theatrical and everyone's moving around and we don't lose Tim. So yeah, what was the biggest fuck up that happened? Oh, okay.
Well, this is why. Okay. So we had this fun. So basically we went from zero to a hundred.
Normally we're like touring a bunch kind of leaning into shows, but because we were off the road, you know, Tony and my kids and we didn't have any like proper shows leaning. So we really had to kind of like night one was night one. Yeah, exactly. And also it was like the kind of show that an aircraft production manager was saying is like it was a big looking show.
It wasn't just like the band setting up in front of like, you know, a backdrop banner, right? Like it was a lot more going on. It's like an aircraft or was like, this is kind of like show that like you were rehearsed for like three weeks before you like you take it out. And we had many, many calls and many zoom calls and we rehearsed, but it wasn't that.
So there's two major parts that required like moving pieces. The one was when Tim's drum kit moves forward, like 15 feet and the sign comes down and it kind of makes the stage feel smaller for kind of like the boss is coming and kiss him. But earlier on the set, there's a acoustic moment and there's this actually I'm so interested to know if you guys saw this. So what was supposed to happen on night one is this curtain is supposed to come down drop down.
It's like a two parts of the curtain drop down. I was there night two. So I didn't see that happen. Maybe correctly on night two.
You were there night two. So night one, the currents was come down and behind it. There's supposed to be sort of illuminated with lights to kind of have this like dreamy backdrop. And then we do quitting you and then I start skin and then the curtain drops when the bank kicks in.
So that's like a moment, right? Kai, our production manager is like 7 p.m. And there's some delays again in the stage up in everything on Friday. He said, I don't feel great about the curtain drop.
We didn't have enough time to run it with my crew. I don't feel great. But like do we need to have the current drop? Can we just like have a spotlight on the band at the front of the stage call like that?
And then I'm like thinking, Kai, come on, man. I'm sure we'll be fine. So I said, Kai, we should do it by saying Alex, our lighting guy, Alex, just keep the stage dark until we know we're in the clear that we know that we're like good to go. He's like, OK, that'll be our plan.
As he's trying to do something happening, keep the lights low. So the curtains drop for quitting you and we're and there's like a soundtrack that's supposed to walk us off. One falls right to the ground is supposed to the other side, which is like half of the stage gets caught at like 10 feet up. So basically Kai comes up and we're standing next to kind of like, well, how the fuck do we pull this curtain down?
And Kylie starts jumping trying to turn out. I'm like, what the fuck do we do? We can't walk out with half the curtain, not fully down. Lights are still down at this point.
What do you do? So then I'm just like, drop the fucking curtain. Just drop the curtain. So then drop the curtain, drop the curtain and the curtain just drops.
And then we walk out as if that was supposed to be the move. Anyone was really paying attention or knew how it was supposed to go. Not one person was like, saw that curtain because it's like, you know, it's such a big space and like, no one knows what's supposed to happen. So I think people just like didn't really ask me to accept it and they just accepted it.
But that was that was my fuck. And then also on night one, Tony's keyboard stopped working, which which turned into a moment. Yes. Yes.
And I'm sure if you listen to spot, you probably seen it, you can see it on Instagram to talk. But basically we had we rehearsed this bit with Tony, like that took up most of rehearsal for like the previous week, which was like, OK, we've had this bit with Tim and Tony that are in a fight. I talked to Mike a lot about this. I was like, what is the new bit?
And we wanted to kind of update it. So I was going through game tape of Springsteen in 1975 and it's on She's the One. And it's like a band is just fucking killing it. Is this the clip I sent you where Springsteen kisses Clarence?
No, but I was like, she goes for this. That's funny. It's because it's like, I said, it's great to the band. I was like, anybody want to indulge him?
And then Tim said, like him over here, honey. And so anyway, we worked so hard on this bit and sort of kind of lifting from Springsteen and Bo Diddly. And it's like feeling fucking great. It's supposed to be like, I want to do it early because I always find those musical moments loosen everybody up.
It loosens the band up and it loosens the crowd up. It's not just like a rolling through song after song. It's like, we're going to talk to the crowd. We have this meme where Tony's a nerd.
That's like a real meme. We have the screen to like showcase the meme, all that stuff. It's all great. And then literally in the moment, we're trying to like launch into his piano so his keyboard is not working.
And that's actually what happened. And I had no idea there was a second keyboard ready to go, but they would have done it there. Had a minute, second keyboard. I don't fucking know.
I mean, I was I've gone pretty good at like not freaking out when something that happens. It's like the lighting things come. I probably would have had the horns do solos or something. Right.
And then you keep Tony on the stage. Tony would have then probably gone to his other Nord keyboard. He has other keyboards that he can make sounds from, but they don't have like the action that a piano has. That's required for like a crazy piano solo.
Did you ever figure out what went wrong with that? Basically, the crew was like in soundcheck, Tony, you're a rig, something weird happening about it. You should use your backup. And Tony's like, no, no, no, I hate my backup.
I hate my backup. We are using my rig. They're like, OK, Tony, like, you're just like Italian asshole. He's like saying no.
And then basically when it stopped working, I go to tell him, what's up? Because this is my fault, man. He's like, I told they told me it was going to happen. And I just said, no.
But it was yeah, but it really made the whole show. Well, it's like when people laugh and start out live. The audience knows like I'm seeing something unique right now. There's something kind of exciting about it.
Especially when you guys have a reputation for like being professionals and everything hits it, smarts and you'd so well thought out. I think when stuff like that happens, it actually gives a live show like it elevates it. Yeah. Well, every other channel is fighting for your customers attention.
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Okay, I want to get like this Tony gag together. How am I introducing the night? And what I would do is I'd write out what my script would what I have a script in mind. I have a good idea.
I have a idea where I want to go and then Mike punches it up and Mike makes it so fucking good and so much fun to deliver. And Mike's one of his great ideas was to pit Friday versus Saturday because people like a little bit of a competition there. Take a little bit of ownership over there. Yeah.
And I really rehearsed. I didn't totally nail exactly what you had it, but I kind of made it my own and it felt natural at least. Oh yeah, Mike kind of over my shoulder being like, oh, he's okay. Here it is.
I'm like, I'm not quite healthy. All right, not quite healthy. That's out of your secretary. When you nailed the one about when everyone was, yeah, when everyone was making friends making out Tony was at home when I had to make those keys.
She's flying like a fucking hurricane. I nailed that line perfectly and maybe I told you even at the after party, I was like, I was like, you delivered that line perfectly. It was one night one. Oh, great question.
Friday had the most like kind of magic because of the phone call with a couple and the keys fucking up, but Saturday we played like two hours of 15 minutes. And if you're long to you guys know when those beers are going down, it feels like very quick. You want to go on? No, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm on.
Those giant games. I was funny because I don't know whether they stopped or whatever. Looking over at Alex and you both were double stacking those giant. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. No, it was crazy. Yeah, but it was great. Yeah, it was such a team effort.
I love those kinds of big shows because you just have like more tools to play with. It probably is like, you know, if you're working on a TV show and you just like have more things that you're disposing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like I love every kind of show, small shows, medium-sized shows.
But like when you're playing a big show, you're like, it just makes you kind of want to like have the keys to do that kind of thing more often. Two nights is such like a, I feel like it's such a big move. Like it's so cool to have two. It's like a double header.
Yeah. It's like there's gonna be certain things that happen on each night. It's like there's gonna be fans that go to both nights. It's like I need to see.
It's just such a cool sort of move. I loved it. I did get stressed though because I was like, what if the people that do come back like are they gonna like get sick of the jokes? It's so funny how like there's 30,000 people there and there's probably like the 30,000 people probably 200 that went to both nights.
Yeah. But I'm just thinking like, oh god, like I'm delivering stuff. I'm like, oh, someone's gonna think this is the same shit from the last night. I really get my own head about it.
Yeah. It's not full does the same fucking jokes. I know. 1998 and people love it.
Yeah, that's a good point. But to answer the question Friday magic versus Saturday, whatever. And what? Like which one one?
Great question. I mean Saturday though, you're in the clear. Like you like because honestly like there's so much stress and there's like everybody's like really dialed in for like the three weeks leading into it. And the whole time you're just thinking about like what is Saturday at midnight going to feel like?
What's Sunday when you go for a walk and you're just like you're past it? So Saturday was way looser. It's so funny that thing you're talking about. Okay.
Do you do this where you like you have a different. You do it a lot. Yeah. I do it a lot.
I do it a lot of the time where I like I project like you have the work has to be done. So focus on the moments that you have to do. Like I just directed like to you like pretty big commercials. And I was like focused on getting those done.
But there were just moments where I'm thinking, oh, it's going to be so nice when I get to July 1st. Because then it's on air. It's gone. Hopefully I did everything I did right.
Like I suppose to when all the clients are always like praising and happy and all that stuff. But I do definitely project to a time when I'm past it. But I do that with lots of things. I do like grieving like when I was really young and like my mom passed away.
I remember just thinking because people would come up and they'd be like, you know, they'd have the appropriate amount of pity and sort of like for them it was kindness. But I just felt like I was being treated differently and I just wanted to get a guy that I didn't want people to have sorrow when they saw me. I want to go. Oh, that's fun.
Mike. You know, so all I kept thinking was I just need to get me and brother would talk about it. I was like 20 Greg was 17. I was like, I was like, we just need to get to like three weeks from now.
And then we'll be normal again. And it's like, wow, so I just think about that. And so I've sort of had it since then. It's just like, but you can't you can't do it at the expense of the work.
You know what I mean? It's like we're working on a TV show or pictures or things like that. It's like, okay, we got to do the dessert. It's like crazy.
I'm bulges is like fucking nuts. And it's like that one week was how we shot the whole 30 like the whole episode one week while directing another huge thing for for Bell Media. And it was like, you just know that once it's wrapped and but then there's like multiple phases. Anyway, it's fascinating to me that you do it as well.
Oh, yeah. Because performing in a lot of ways is such like a it's such a joyous singular. We're thinking how it lives on its own in its own way, whether it's a small show or big show or whatever you're doing. But it's funny to you that you're even like, like if you look up on stage for those two hours, you know, Jesus, like that's you got to be in heaven, right?
Or whatever that is, or you're thinking, or however that is you process it. But even you were thinking on Sunday when I'm walking to get a coffee, I'm going to be a very relieved person. You know, it's it's not even the show once you get to the stage, then you can kind of enjoy yourself. But wanting it to be great and getting stressed out about it, that's the thing that's like, it's an as you know, it's like a never ending to-do list.
I'm like, you know, it's like a Thursday. I'm falling asleep. And I'm like, oh, we should have graphics on the screen when people are coming in to let them know that merch is available. Can we take photos of ourselves in the merch on the screen because sometimes people don't see where the merch tend to like that's one?
And Ash has like a million of those. I'm sure running through her head. That's like, I'm executing. But it's like, oh, we like, okay, I have a playlist for like before we go on.
But sometimes when you make a Spotify playlist, like a Whitney Houston song has like a minute intro, which nobody wants to do, and then like a minute outro. Okay, how do we just make a playlist with like the best 90 seconds of each time? Okay, who could do this for me? Oh, Ernesto, Ernesto's a trauma player.
He DJs. And then you call Ernesto and you explain the idea and then he sends you a thing. And then you realize like, that's one of a thousand fucking things that you do. So what you're on stage, you're like, all right, all systems go, let's have a great time.
It's Friday though. You can't really celebrate because you're just like, after we've locked in for the next day, like if I go and bug party, your voice is gone. But if it's Saturday, I was just thinking about like who'd be at the after party. Seriously, I just think I'm like, I just can't wait to see everybody.
And I saw you. I barely saw you. I don't think I'm seeing you in a minute. I think you might have noticed before, because you came in pretty late.
Yeah. But what's so beautiful about an after party like that is it's like, you know, you two in particular do so much for M. Pointing to Max, it's like you guys do so much work that it must feel like such a beautiful sort of victory lap because it's like the minute you walk in a room or anytime you see something, we just want to like hug you and say you did it. Like the enormity of what you pulled off is this sort of very, very, very rare thing.
It is. It's very sweet. And obviously most of our shows don't look quite like that. It's like kind of as big as it gets almost because I was the rallying Hamilton.
And but it feels it's like, because we've been doing it for a while, like it feels like everyone's sort of invested and happy and involved in various degrees. You know, it's like, Mark is now like to be celebrated too. And I'm like, I got to see you Mike. And I'm like, we got to talk about the bit and like a million, you know, and then it's also just funny hearing.
I would just like different conversations that like people had at the after party because it's like all of our entire world is sort of like meeting there and like Max, this is the friend named Riley. I went to dinner with Riley. So he's sort of, you know, my friend out through Max, but he was like, we had, we had a hug. And he's like, Hey, where's the other guy from the podcast?
And you happen to be like, I don't know, like six feet away. I was like, Oh, right there, that's Shane. I was like, listen to the podcast. So yeah, Max, I'm listening to, he's like, but I had to give up your 10 minutes.
Like I was talking about a purely basketball. Oh, this guy's not my friend. I don't like this guy. I think he was saying it was just like, but actually maybe not.
I don't know if that was, you know, I'm probably being honest. I would ask is Ash, are you some, you're going to make you don't like, are you someone that is like very present in the moment or do you try to ask or project to the future? Like, I just can't wait till I've got my feet up and this is done. But it's a different timeline.
Because even at the after party, I'm like, how fast is the merch online? This person needs this thing. I didn't get back to these 55 things. Like, you know, like it just, okay, as soon as what time I leaving this thing because there's like piles of shit upstairs to pack up to go to various places.
Like it doesn't actually ever turn off. Yeah. But and then the whole time, I'm every single one, I'm like, Oh, I'm going to watch it this time. But it's literally impossible because you try to think of like four things that can go wrong with each thing.
So I'm just like, because I'll blame me if it, if you're like, like, I should just, I just like assume that there needs to be a fail safe on every day. Like a fail safe on everything. And so, and you also can't, I'm not, the people will be like wearing on a walkie. Like I'm never on a walkie, which is like kind of funny, but I would actually just die because I have all these other things on you know, where like people talking about other stuff.
And I'd also be annoying because I know the other day, all I need to is be able to talk to somebody to go in like your ear to fix something. And we can talk about like, if you need to kind of saw, like we have signs and know how to get to each other, something's important, like someone like passes out or there's like a whole logistics. In the crowd, not a band. Yeah.
Or the song in the middle of the show. Yeah, you have to watch the clock. It's very expensive to go over. You have to do that at all.
Whatever. But the one thing we didn't talk about that actually just adds like everything's like normal stress fun, whatever like easy weather is a whole other thing and all week it was just like 10, 10, these shows will be in the rain. So that like puts this whole other level of like, seriously on it because you're like, I don't have time for like normal stuff like in that you just can't outrun. No, the rain's this little rain that song have to be played.
Is that like a rule of yours? Well, we had it ready. And that was actually funny. So we Friday the way it worked was it was raining kind of while taking a Sarah were on, but there was a rainbow and it was sunny and the time we can't was beautiful.
On Saturday, it was like, it's going to thunderstorm. And when in thunder lightning creates this whole other set of issues, rain's fine. But thunder lightning means that like everyone along, which like sometimes people have to like go find shelter. No, yeah, it's like a terrible place and like Coca Cola calls the show.
No, the entire show stopped, but they have to like everybody has to be evacuated. That's on the lawn and everybody else gets to stand underneath in their seats if you're like underneath. Oh, right. Wait, you guys continue playing.
No, no, no, no. The whole thing is shut down and people have to be moved in and out of the facility. Yeah, like there's lightning rules for when a strike happens and you see 30 minutes of no strikes before operations can continue. And what if it just lightings until 11?
No, no. So there's the possibility of like, how do we remove 30 minutes from the show? How do we do we have to do open doors late? Do you change door times?
Who doesn't get to play? Who doesn't get to play? Do you get out of here? So this person can play their full set like the logistics and when you call them and around it being like, oh, rally towels costs this.
I guess they're soaking wet now. I guess people don't pick them up. I guess they don't hand them out. Oh, merch lines can't happen.
It's in the pouring rain. Oh, no, no, no, no. Like there's the layers and layers and layers of like, oh, that you have to think about is so funny. So when it's just beautiful, the amount of ram that opens up in your head that absorbs is wild.
So we just knew that was going to be part of the day and when it wasn't, it was amazing. But we couldn't let it go until you hit the stage because it was going to rain. Yeah, basically we have a friend Michelle who works for CP 20. No, city, city, city, weather.
I don't want to say that to her right here. And she was like, I have like the weather maps in front of me and like I've never seen this before, but there are like rain thunder clouds that are like coming through Scarborough and then going over top of the city, but they're not coming down the lake. So like, so she's like, I think you're going to be okay. And so, so then a little rain was actually on the set list.
And then when I got that information, I was like, it's off the list. Sorry. Wow. Yeah.
Speaking of the towels, what was the slogan on the thing? Oh, yeah. What? You up with that, right?
I asked my show, but it was like, oh, maybe I don't think I go, I don't think I check my notes because I was like, it's pretty clever. Maybe it was my, but I had so many things in my notes, but I put it in and I couldn't find it. It's in a lifetime, twice and a thousand. It's just twice and weekend.
I'm going to have a blurb about it. Not a bunch of you are joking. There was a branch originally about what we were going to be called. So I thought maybe it was in my notes from that.
I just assumed it was you, Mike, only because that is the most mic-y line of all time. That's what Danica said. And I was like, I don't think so. Maybe it was over the phone.
I don't recall, but there were so many conversations, but it was good. I wanted to give credit. It would be hilarious, so I'm trying to give credit to it. Wasn't it circles back to me somehow?
But I don't know. I don't know. I'm not in person as a genius. I just remember these things, but maybe came out of those.
I think he just said it like facetiously in a tone that wasn't like a title and then it just stuck. And if you say it differently, it feels bigger. Yeah, it's not necessarily like a. I can hear like saying it in a phone call, I signed a virtual and being like, let's announce both at once.
It's like, you know, once in a lifetime, twice in a summer time, or something like that, you know. January 25th. I know this is must have been. Who did double header though?
Was that you? We just had it along with you. I think I was too. I think I had that one.
I think I had that one. Just saying double header. Yeah. Kind of common.
For the weekend. Oh, yeah. I said it was like a weekend double header. That's good.
That's a day good. So from start, like, sorry for an inception to Showtime. How long has it take? How long has it been planned?
I've had the date on the board for like two years or a year. It's a bit of bad information because of COVID. Because everyone's trying to like plan really far ahead because they're trying to put things on the board. But you typically get holds like that way well in advance.
We're already like the next one which is the years from now. What we know what we can do. So how long would you like get the opener sorted out? Oh, that would have been in January, December, January, so it's like almost like six months of planning.
The stage starts getting constructed. Who designed your stage? Do we work with that? I think we work with the Nashville who we've admired for a very long time who've done all sorts of really cool tours and stuff.
They send us a bunch of like renderings of different stage designs and we settle on that. We start, yeah, we'll be talking them for months too. Yeah, it all just takes a while. Very cool.