SIDE CHAT (from tv to generation+)

** Hey, it's Jenny here. Lily is off on a boat up north so I'm doing the ep description.

This is one of our famous* side chats, which is basically an excision out of the loose, baggy body of the longer recording. Sometimes our episodes are wildly discursive and this was one of them.

This one starts with us talking TV -- if you're anything like us, it's a common topic when we chat. I've been revisiting CURB YOUR ENTHUSIASM, and watching S10 and 11 (on Binge). Then, I recommend Lily checks out PLATONIC (Apple+) with Rose Byrne and Seth Rogan.

Lily suggests why don't we have our platonic relationships up front and in priority no. 1 position, and then romantic ones down the list, on the side. I propose a Woody-Mia living arrangement.  Lily says people of her gen are questioning more and more what it means to be in long-term relationships, and how that can mean less individual choice. Why should it? Why not define your own best way?

Lily: The older I get, the more I realise everyone's just out there, chaotically "doing stuff" and "seeing what sticks".

We consider the concept of 'being ready for a child' and that it's an impossible state to achieve. There'll never be a 'perfect time'. Sometimes, you just have to jump. Also, we talk briefly about how some people don't love their children, that it's not automatic, and we discuss men and fatherhood in that context.

We touch on gender roles within the family structure, the concept of childhood as a 'thing' that hasn't always been in people's minds, that the history of parenting shows it was a role quite different a hundred years ago than it is today.

Lily acknowledges there's more responsibility on parents these days than ever before.

And finally, I declare myself a member of Generation+ (ie those drop-down age selections on digital forms. Claiming a decade rather than a specific age.)


* in our own imaginations



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