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I, V, M. Hello everyone and welcome to Simplified One Last Time. Okay, since this is the last time you're going to be doing this, I'm going to roast you, fuckers. So here it goes.
First up, in order of co-hosts via chronology, a man who once confided in me that before Simplified, he thought that a podcast is what you call the plastic tip at the end of a shoelace. The F of a cent-inimitable Nairindra, I am indeed writing a book. Shana, I... Thank you.
Then we have the baby-faced wonder who once passed out with his Gmail open on my couch. And listen, I'm not the kind of person to normally be sneaky and look at other people's emails. But you really have to question why they were repeated things from Vijay Malia asking, listen, Macha, are you there on one chatroom? And Naira, both of you on the other asking, bro, please give OTP.
Srikit Tarappali. What the hell? Then the only one among you that I actually like, so I'll spare the roast and just do a mild saute. A man who's only regret is that we didn't do 19 more episodes so that we could also be bracketed with the don.
Tony's a bastion. Tell me first that you like. I also do want to mention that I didn't need to roast Tony because before we started the recording, our long-suffering producer Anthony let out this gem which I've written down over here. When I mute you, it is calm.
The start had independently occurred to other co-hosts. So, what's happening next week? Hey, yeah, it's been quite a while. The soundtrack was extra long to hit because everyone's sound settings are all over the place.
People were relearning how to use mics and everything. At least one of us downloaded Audacity, at least one of us had a new computer. At least one of us had a new computer. What is this?
The first of Barack Obama's autobiography. This is the hope of Audacity. That is what our producers had. Oh, oh, oh, oh.
Barack Obama's book of course. The Audacity of hope. Oh my God. It's like we never left the room this.
It's like, yeah. Nothing ever. The more things, the more the sales. I generally thought Tony that, see, I generally thought the goofiness would come from the three of us because you at least now have two other podcast outlets.
So I thought like, this is some of this, we would go there. But I, yeah, yeah. Isn't it 10-chatting dip in aspirant sales since simplified went on a break? I feel like everyone's sort of gonna, you should load up on aspirant stocks before this episode goes live, is what I'm saying.
Because lots of people are gonna buy it. Well, we used to have an uncle like that. No, he was like one aspirant uncle. There was like two aspirant uncles.
So now uncle like, you profillactically take two aspirants. We're going to chew up right now. Was he getting sari-donic? Oh, wait.
I remember reading some old jokes somewhere where, where near the bird enclosure in a zoo, the first day box had run out of pan at all because the paracetamol. I'd say the mall. I'd say the mall. Holy crap.
This is like, yeah. This is like, you guys don't know any of this life. Don't know any of this life. You guys are all backed up and you're looking for an outlet for all of this stuff.
Tell you what, like forget, simplify it. Just get out of group. Check that out. You guys are going.
We have a fun-filled episode for you coming up. We have, I mean, we have one, I think some explanation as to why we are not going to have an episode 3.20. I think we owe our three more than three listeners that we have some very touching voice notes that have been sent in by fans and other people who we managed to keep map, fight to a chair and put a mic in front of. But one of the- Little batches between their toes.
I'm remembering very no stealthily the good old days. Most of these videos now where they are like reading off a sheet of paper. I am fine. Please tell my family I love them.
And we also have, see, usually when other notable podcasts, such as the bugle, they are doing say episodes like this, they'll take out old episodes, they'll stitch it together and stuff like that. We also wanted to do that, but we did not have the energy or the motivation to. So all I have done is, so for the last two years, there has been one simplified Google Doc, Google Doc. So I have basically gone to history and collected some random things together.
And I have a bunch of sad old things to tell you, including, I think what I think was the panda that made Shriekit's face from the most. So that's the key for this. So but the other thing that we have is that for the first time Tony has an intro. And we are going to do a lot of intro through the show.
We're going to do a lot of intro. So Tony, why don't you take it? I must tell listeners that I started writing the intro for Simplified, only after listening to Tony introduce his co-host of Bits and Pieces. So in some ways, it's come full circle.
Tony, please take it away and introduce your host for the second time. No, there it is an asset because we have a different panel, right? And the audience is like, who the fuck is talking? Because very much over here also, we have that problem.
For something else talking, there are many listeners who say, fuck this talk right now. Yes, yes, please. Okay, so one last intro for Simplified. Hello and welcome to Simplified, the Vt podcast that used to make you smart in the brain, but now it just makes you smart, the synonym for pain, where four friends gathered around to put mud on every topic above the ground.
But like all good things must come to an end, so must we say goodbye, dear friend. This is episode Salvation, the one in which, thanks to your prayers, the spot guys shall finally escape from purgatory and go to heaven. As Douglas Adams will testify, the worst place to get stuck in is time. And I have always envied sports persons because they get to read tributes to them while they retire.
And the rest of us have to wait for an afterlife in which we hope to be able to read obituaries. But thanks to the Friends of Simplified, this is the episode where we are blessed with that wonderful fate of being able to read our orbits. I am Tony and joining me from obit to orbit, the man whose knowledge is as vast as the orbit of Pluto, whose memory can only be described as ex-orbited and whose sense of humor is like orbit chewing them. It makes you exercise your mouth and leaves you with a breath of fresh air.
The extraordinary man whose autobiography has been stuck in sakina conjunction forever. My lord from my lord, the one and only Merempere Shenai. Say hi, Mere. Hi.
I'm really never my lord from my lord from my lord. My lord. Up next from orbit to orchid, the one slinger with whom all got pally, once in a lifetime man, like the comet of Halley, the organizer around whom we all rally, with him it's always speak, no valley. From ed upali to thadepali, they all say in the alley, Ayo, here comes Deepak with yet another chally.
Please say hi to one and only Chuck. Did you work in the accounting software there as well? Halley. He, he, like, a little bit, which was like he got tardipali in there.
He put it in there. Yeah, yeah. So that, yeah. That's interesting.
Yeah, so it's interesting. So were you referring to thadepali, the surname of Ocros? Or thadepali, the place? Oh, he made a place.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Yes. Yes. That's where I'm from. That's where I'm from.
And thadepali, yeah. Yeah, but many listeners might not know that thadepali is in fact. Oh. Like, play back the intro.
Play backwards. There's a hidden message. There is. Oh, like, let's just go.
Oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay. Amazing.
And, in fact, finally from orchid to orchid, the guy who says, Thumb, jis, vikki pide, jis, patte, ho, hamus, ke, headmaster, reich, cajo. Thubikki, he's an admin. To the world at large, he's an ad man. He can spin a yarn till the owl in the barn falls asleep.
The man whose mind works faster than the number of tabs open on the chrome browser window on your phone right now. His name, you better not strike it. In excitement, you may shriek it. Please welcome.
For one final time on Sipri-Fi, the one and only Sree-kaaaaaay. Wow. Incredible. Incredible.
You are. Oh, my God, Toni is the true good. Oh, oh, oh. I have to drop the mic except it.
Yeah. Yeah. We have spent a lot of time setting it up, please. Oh, wow.
Just like that intro. Oh, wow. Incredible. Great.
So, happy to announce I'm launching an intro as a service. Thank you. That's a pleasure. Intus.
Nice. Nice. So we will have, there are four more intros to get through, which we will like, systematically, everything like 15 minutes or so over the course of this. Part of that.
I think it's also important. I think it's also important for one last time, since it's a tradition on Sipri-Fi. Like it's also important to tell people what Sipri-Fi is about. Because if you have a few listeners.
Yeah. Go on. I forget to join in. Altar, new list, we should also explain what Sipri-Fi really is.
Right. So, yeah, I think, so for everyone who's joining, it's a nice time. It's got, yeah. OK.
So, I think as the, as the, as the, read it out in the style of like a Wikipedia article or something. And I'm putting your, like, a Wikipedia like spot over here. That is, that is what you have. But yeah, I mean, so, I mean, in this conversation, you did all over the site.
But it's, no, it's basically this article is scheduled for deletion. Oh. And so, start with the listeners of this podcast citation. Needed citation.
No, this, this contains this, this podcast contains a lot of unverified original research. Two wordy. We saw two wordy. Yeah, we saw two words, full of visual words.
Exactly. So, yeah, I mean, simplified. So, hello and welcome to simplified the podcast where, the podcast where not bad. Not bad.
13 minutes, 13 minutes, not bad. Not bad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Say, there we go.
I mean, we did say this, say this, this podcast is all going to be in rows, right? So, they're going to keep introducing ourselves till the end, I guess. Oh, that's interesting. Because this episode is literally our outro.
Outro. And outro's outro of intros. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, because people say it's the last hoorah. Can I give it a ask hoorah? We are introducing ourselves over and over again. Darian, yes.
I'm in the quantity coming, please. No, I thought we should ask Bertie Wooster to give an intro to all of us. Oh, yes, beautiful. Yes, please.
Please tell me you either resurrected him or have created a GPD book. Yeah. Nothing of the sort. I'm afraid.
Gee, is my man. There is a gaggle of rather run people in front of me. It seems they are funny. What do you think?
Gee, I'm afraid serve appearances are deceptive. The one on your left, he is a notorious punster who has been known to drive people off cliffs. His name is the Paksakacak. And he is best avoided unless your interior is filled with a flag and full of the best, the true, the blushful, hypochrome.
Oh, that I am quite well equipped. Gee, you can rest assured. I have had my daily drink. Very well, sir.
The other lad there you see smiling beatifically. He runs, owns and manages Wikipedia. He's very dangerous. He knows everything in the world there is to know.
And he has a laugh like a cat dancing at a hot tin roof. So I would highly recommend you stay clear of him. I say, James, you seem to know everything about everything. And what about the other bearded bloke who seems rather nice?
Oh, he's the worst of the lot. His name is Tony. He is the slightest, most surreptitious pun master you can find. And he will crack jokes that you won't know for like a second before it hits you under the jaw.
Thank you, James. Thank you very much for arming me. And I think I will face this gaggle of guys a little more confidently. Wow, you just flew.
You made it a little lighter. Yeah, just like one spot on a... Right. What size does he go?
He goes ex-tempo. Yeah, not ex-tempo. We saved the best for the last literally. Who didn't have it?
Jackus, Jackus. Jackus. I'm like Bob, come here. Yeah.
So all three little people need for a booster. Suffering. Shriekit, the Wikipedia and Tritik. Yeah, that is quite an act to follow.
No, it is not because none of us have actually given an iota of what the show actually is. So I can go for it later. It can't be improved. It's not be improved.
This is how I'm going to do it. You guys have all been extremely wordsmithy about it and beautifully prosake about all of these things and like poetic about all of these things. So what I'm going to try and do is in the interest of being the representative of Wikipedia, so to speak over here, I'm going to actually tell you what the shit is about it. Yeah.
Yeah. So, yes. Hello. Welcome to Simplified podcast, which we did for about, how many episodes did we do?
80 years. Yes. Yeah. 390 according to pocket, because this will be episode number 390.
390. So we did this. So we did this. Yeah.
Yeah. This includes about eight or nine episodes number 150, but let's not get there. That's a soul. Yeah.
That's a soul. Yeah. I mean, and let's not even count all of the other ones. But yes, about 380 episodes, what we attempted to do several times and were moderately successful for about 15% of the time and like why and widely unsuccessful and which were the most popular episodes about the rest of the 65% of the time was that we took every day situations.
We took every day things that current affairs that you're going through stuff that you see outside it's thing that you read about on the news and we simplified them. We kind of took those things and kind of broke them down and made them palatable for everyone to understand and gave you talking points, which was our original line, which is give you talking points enough to sound smart at parties. Right. And so yeah.
All parties. All parties. Smarties at parties. This is a t-shirt line.
There you go. See that should have been a simplified t-shirt. Yeah. Finally, do we have a tagline?
Pretty soon we're coming together. So there we, so which is essentially what we attempted to do along the way. Also we tried to try to make you laugh, which was successful, advertently and inadvertently from time to time. And yeah, that was, that was in a sense what simplified has been.
This episode is just an attempt to wrap up. I mean, I think after about eight years of doing this nonsense and being tolerated significantly by the airwaves, we were, we finally decided that you know what, like I think we owe it to the world to kind of take a break and owe it to the listeners to, like I mean after a point you also give up on the torture and you do like the coup de gras. So this is the, this is the, this is the culmination of a set podcast. And yeah, I mean, all, all, all humor aside, it's been an amazing blast doing this shit.
And we've had some great listeners. We've had some great people writing this again. Yes, on the show. Oh my God, incredible.
Yes, on the show. And about all greatest podcast go-hos from my perspective. So yeah, it's amazing. It's so good.
It's so good. Yeah. Yeah. Overall, that is what simplified is all about.
So now that you're now first time listener, that you're all caught up on what simplified is, I think let's get into the meat of the simplification. So a lot of people have like pinged an ass like why are you guys stopping and stuff. So I think like before we get on with the nonsense, I think we should just address these heavy topics and closure for them as well as us, I guess, in some way. I mean, I'll start, I guess, before it's becoming increasing.
Yeah, I think it was just becoming increasingly difficult to coordinate timings and all of us were getting dizzier and stuff. And correct me if I am wrong. But I just thought, I think maybe I think the fuel was running out. Either the fuel was running out of the spark was going out or both.
So we just thought, OK, this is instead of carrying it on forever and ever, just thought, OK, I mean, let's stop while people are still asking why and not when. Was the general idea. So yeah, OK, did I make that a little too morose? I'm not completely sure.
When I was a kid, there used to be this program called cricket with Vijay Merchant. There's to be a program called cricket with Vijay Merchant. That's all on radio. And so Vijay Merchant used to tell these delightful anecdotes about his critic and back in the day.
I don't know if he was a player with Bradman, but he'd have anecdotes about Keith Miller. Is that a lot of people are there. But one of the things, like every time the refrain would be about Sunil Gavaskar and the thing was, why the hell is Sunil Gavaskar not retiring? So Vijay Merchant used to say, You should retire.
You should retire when people ask, why are you retiring? You should, people should ask, why are you not retiring? Something about them. Yeah, that was Vijay Merchant for you.
So I've inadvertently given away by vintage. Oh my. Referring to it. Yeah, not Sunil Gavaskar is what you're trying to say.
We are not Sunil Gavaskar. We are like, we're like, we're like, we're like, at this point, I'd say being grown Gavaskar. But. So taking a, taking a ticket of your first role in ODS.
Yeah, I mean, you're the, you're the, you're the, usually the most anxious of the lot. You didn't expect that fact from me. What? I have 10, 10 facts that I unleash on to you.
Like it's systematic. We, we, we called it quits. Just as we were about to get popular, right? I think we couldn't stand to the.
Yeah, now that we have a volume of fanfills. No, no, no. Yeah, yeah. We are, we are truly like the OGs.
Like they say, right, like you like someone before they become mainstream, right? Like we, we, we, we, we'd be bored of mainstream. Yeah. We have these opportunities.
We can't. Yeah. So can you just say something about this? No, just like this, no, Chuck, which only you, you and speaking of no, which was just, just as they were about to get.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, quite a few. Like if, if one of our, one of our listeners cost, and we'll try to do as many of these little call-hoots as we can, he's a big fan of a bank called, research office, NecroFagist.
And they were very weak in the technical deck metal wall. And just as they were about to go slightly mainstream, the main guy decided to quit his job and become an engineer at BMW. Where now under their own metal channels are actually going and I saw, I, I'm not kidding you. I saw and I went and saw like a channel of some prog fan who's traveled across Europe or something, went to Berlin or wherever the Mw factories.
And tried to hang out saying, do you know this person? Like, do you know this guitar is? Oh my god. Oh, worry, worry, worry.
Like they, no, here's the thing. This guy is, I'm just stealing all the industrial secrets. Like screw your secrets. I just wanted all these.
So this is like, this is like, this is like, Anand Ram Chandran moving from Sanov Bose to LinkedIn. Like that kind of stuff. Oh, that's a fault difference. And we shall not explain if you know, you know.
But I also, just to wrap up the seriousness, I also think that I think all four of us ultimately were aware that we could make this really big if we wanted to accept that there's a certain delta in terms of effort, time, etc. That was needed. And we were either not willing to put that in or it's just that we were like, absolutely. I think that's just a small thing.
I think that's about right, because following that particular thing, I think we came to a point exactly around the time where we were like, Tony said that we were actually getting more popular and we were actually like, whatever. And at which point it kind of, it became very evident for me, at least I won't speak for everyone. It became very evident for me that we owe it to the podcast to put in the effort to make it like, take it to that next level. And I think everyone in our own ways kind of discovered that putting that effort, I mean, this podcast never was, I mean, we never really invested much effort.
Let's be honest here. We did our basic minimums and like, we did whatever, but it was mostly us having fun. And after a point where we realized that, you know what, let's put in more effort and try and make this better is where we realized, you know what, we've done this for long enough. Obviously, we are still friends.
Obviously we're all, we all. Oh yeah, let's find that. Let's find that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. What is that? Yeah. So what's there?
What were the gossip theories? Have you, you know, I think somebody, I mean, long back when you took a break or something, like this being going on for six months, we've been on a break longer than Ross and Tres. So we've been somebody actually painted us, I forget where, yeah. So let me, I mean, just, I'm sorry to bring it up right now, guys.
Everything is good. Okay. Okay. I'm all yours, actually.
No, let's, let's, let's, let's go back to what, our producer said at the beginning, when Tony mute, everything is calm. Yeah. And also, also, so now it's good that you brought, it's good that you brought in the producer. But I think also all of us being very consensual souls, we also kind of realized that, you know, poor, poor producers, IBM, et cetera, it's putting a lot of effort behind making like, like really every, listen, every hour that they're spending with us, they could have been spending it on service, or make Nada, like, or, I don't know, like, Oh, and Joshi, whoever is there on the network right now.
Or a lunch break. Or a lunch break. We're really recording this at 7.46 and we have hardly ever got started. Anthony, I hope you've had dinner or, I think, I think, I think all these factors are really, little too, little too magnanimous on our partner.
I feel like, you know, everything has a time and a place and sometimes it just runs out and you know, and it runs out. I think, yeah, that's what I think all of these factors just kind of came together. Right. I think absolutely.
Like, absolute creative spark and the fact that we are now separated all over the globe about to become even more so. Yeah, and just, man, life gets in the life. And just life, yeah. Okay, so here's the, I suppose, a positive thing.
I think all of us are going to be up to something or the other. There are some projects between us that are cooking already. And in Tony's case, have already been cooked, sold a package, become a D2C company, basically, say funding and being the same. So, why didn't we, like, go around saying what we are sort of up to, what might end up happening, etc.
Yeah. I mean, you're the guy with the most answers. So, we might not start. No, I'm still in the increasing order of sort of epicness.
I'm the worst, like least epic thing. I'm still doing the same old, whatever I was doing, manufacturing automotive components, struggling to write a book. And generally, the only good thing is that, you know, only exciting thing on my horizon now is that my son is going to get married soon in August. Yeah.
So, yeah. Hey, there's some congratulations. So, everybody, all my listeners, please start out. All three of you.
So, they might. They might. So, he's getting married soon. So, one of five years before he starts his first podcast.
Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
This is very tragic, because in 2015, when we started the show, there was a page on Facebook which I started called Naren, please write a book, which was, I believe, at that point around two years old. So, it's refreshing to know that close to 10 years later. Yeah. It will get its own other cut soon.
Yeah. But Naren, please, like a book I don't feel, or on some of it reads and everything. I wrote it in such a non-search, I tell you, that, you know, when I actually published that book, I fear that scales will fall from people's eyes and they will shun me like, you know, they will, they will shrink away from me like a salted snail. That's what I fear.
See, from whatever you have told me about you and your social circumstances, people do that anyway. So, why don't you just leave for me? Like, okay, to shame. I mean, yeah.
What's the question? Sorry. Sorry. Sorry.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay. Okay. Can you do fish with you? Can you do fish with you at all, once a time?
You have a fish on something like this? Yeah. Something like this? You don't know.
So, can you do fish? So, scales fall from their eyes. Take these, and put it back on, then you're putting scales back on. That was nice.
Oh my God. Oh my God. That was nice. You know, one thing I love about, you know, one thing I love about Shrieket's reactions to these jokes is he very, I don't know if you've noticed that if you have VAR or whatever that thing is, if you notice this, he'll notice this slowly, very classally, this is class of time that he does this.
Yeah. This is very cute. It's quite nice anyway. What else?
And also, the current, no, the current state of technology, the deplorable current rate of, uh, current state of technology does not allow you to kick, that one allows Shrieket to kick Chuck through the zoom. Oh yeah. But I can do that. You know, you know, you know, you know, why he lives his glasses, no?
Why? To take out the scales that have fallen from his eyes. Oh my God. Oh wow.
This is my box on you with my camel. Okay. Well, yeah, this is Tony. I mean, you, sir.
Go for it. I was just following, I mean, I was just following, I was like in the interest of talking about people who are doing unremarkable things. That is, I think I would add, I would add very clearly to that. Uh, unlike the more esteemed followers of the, the more esteemed duo of Chuck and Tony here, I too don't have too many podcasts in the pipeline as such.
I will, I am actually, though one major update is I will be visiting India shortly, which is a big source of culinary anticipation at a very minimum for me. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, oh, believe me, food in India is significantly better across the board. Believe it, believe it, believe it. Yeah.
Yeah. So that is, so yeah, I'll be visiting India, spending some time with the family, spending some time with friends, visiting all you, all you fuckers. And yeah, so that is, that is my big update and that's what I'm looking forward to. So I will let the people with the real big updates to talk next.
So don't go ahead. He'll be good. Well, no, no such thing except I've been feeling a lot better since we ended the podcast, not because of our, Oh, Oh, Thanks. That causation thing, et cetera, is not.
Yeah, just generally in life, right? I was going through, I think a bad patch during COVID. I think many of us were. I think this is one of the things that is under-exploded and should have been a simplified episode at some point, is that the world collectively has shined COVID aside and refused to process those feelings, right?
Yeah. And they don't ever want to talk about it ever again. But at least for me, like, it was a bad and like I finally got out of it, snapped out of it, went on a creative binge, right? I've been doing a bunch of different things, all not very successfully, of course.
But yeah, I mean, two podcasts, if you're, you know, in the area of cricket, one that we started called bits and pieces has a bunch of different friends, like 50, 60 panelists, as in not all at once, but in different episodes, it has crossed around 115 episodes as we speak. Check it out. The other one is more recent, which we started with Newton's, who was also featured on 75. I don't remember the episode number, but it's a cricket info, I am a guy.
Generally, the deal is that we can't be simplified, obviously, just the two of us. It's called leftover lasagna with an E. It's hilarious. It's L for short.
We'll link it from the show. Oh, the idea is again, sort of like, simplified, right? Just talk about a topic, some banter, some things that you'll learn along the way. So check that out, because like I mentioned, it is a CFIN task to actually build up a podcast following, right?
It is extremely tough and discoverability is really, really hard. So if you enjoyed simplified, give that a listen and tell your friends, we'll be getting popular, we'll be around. We'll be around the cast of getting popular. Which is why Marien is refusing to write his book.
I see, I see, I see, I'm wondering, 115 episodes of bits and pieces already. That's amazing. I'm the math and that's 36% of simplified episode number. It hasn't been around for two years, three years.
Okay, so that's been at it every week. Yeah, but Marien has featured on the podcast, we should, we should have been that. I have a cricket podcast there. Very knowledgeable cricket, our cricket officials.
Myself. You've done, we say, merchant, mimicry now, which is, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
Here's the thing, I don't think you need to be a cricket fan to, clearly, to, to, to, cricket fan to appear on or listen to the podcast. It is generally like, and many people have asked, if not simplified, where can we go? I will hardly direct them to Tony's podcast. So they, I think are very nice in terms of like, same kind of banter jokes and that kind of thing.
So yes, so we're very happy for you and your creative stuff. And also, I really like that, subtract that your writing as well, which I hope you continue to do. Yeah, plug that. No, that's why I just called, actually, yeah, I mean, the first episode, first, when we had the idea, it turned into an episode with Sibin.
Right. So the concept is called where is Bill Waterson? The idea being that, you know, all the people you're talking to, whether it's an office or LinkedIn or interview on TV, are not necessarily the most happy contented people in life. They are obviously in a corner having found wisdom being to themselves.
So is there a way in which you can sort of figure out where Bill Waterson is, the idea being Bill Waterson at the peak of his fame, went away and became a hermit pretty much right, and you don't know about him. So yeah, that is what I'm trying to explore, but obviously not with people. It's more like a middle-aged kind of blog and sort of a little bit of humor, lots of feelings, et cetera. Mixed in.
One of the great things that happened through that sub-stag was that I wrote a piece about Sanju-Samsung, and he read it. He's a cricketer captain of the other standard, in case you don't know. He read it and we actually met up in Mumbai, which is pretty cool. So yeah, that is major like- That's awesome.
That's amazing. Thank you. Okay, so I think before I say what's happening and might be happening in my life, I think it is time for intro number three. Yay!
And this is all a rehash of the I've been too lazy to write new stuff. This is the first one. This is the first time I actually attempted writing the intro, and this takes us all the way back to the first time we attempted a half-times episode. Half-times episodes.
Again, for those old listeners who've been with us for a while, we'll know our episodes where if one of us is individually too lazy to come up with the full episode, so each of us just brings like quarter episode each. That's basically what happens was. So let's go. Okay, so it'd be hard to try and get into that intro, whatever we threw in episode.
Good day ladies and gentlemen and welcome to Simplified, a show whose USB is an irresistible banter between four friends. Once described as, it sounds like an eavesdropping or an interesting conversation among four intelligent people drinking craft beer at a banger pump and learning so many things and laughing my guts out. This description was of course provided by me as a producer told me that the reviews could not be read out on air without updating a censorship certificate. Join me in this craft brewery of fun today are four spines specimens, actually three spines specimens.
I've made the mistake then also. Firstly, there is Tony, who is like a nice IPA, slightly dark, a little bitter in the beginning and takes a little getting used to, but once you get used to him, he's the only one you'll want to help Tony. Then we have Shri Keith, oh, there's a good one, the F.O.I.Z.M. The most universally loved, bright and happy, since he spent some time in Gujara, he has the lowest ABV of the lot and since he spent, and since he spent time in Gujara, he also has a pinch of orange in his face.
That's the age well. Then we have Narendra Stout and no, no, that's not a fat joke. Please, speak of your fans, I'll get a taste of that. Like a good coffee stout, Naren is aged, is smoky, f, quite creamy and given his recent abstinence, it's quite rare to find it among by brewery these days.
Cheers, Naren. Cheers. Update on your abstinence. Sorry.
Yeah, I'll just finish it. And that's for me, I'm certain I didn't bother writing the introduction for myself, so he quit me to whatever swill you like. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Chuck is a... He's a little abstinent.
He's a little abstinent. Thank you for the wagon. Yeah, so I'm, you know, what the damn latest thing is. Your gat is on your favorite side.
My things have come to a pass where Sheila actually asked me to have a drink when certain relatives visit her. Apparently, I've become this complete joyless monster in the absence of alcohol. I just sit with that tower of face and refuse to say anything. So Sheila, why don't you have a couple?
And I said, I thought I'm not supposed to be drinking and I said, well, it's okay. So that's what's happening. So yeah, question like, am I going there, Yathulakum anyway? Not yet, but yeah.
They were not quite yet. But not Ayatulat too many either. It wasn't a way I got invented in that part of the world. Anyway, I'm here in history of like, I don't know the world.
It always seems like places that are ultra conservative right now, we're really living it up back. The day like beer was invented or whatever in Egypt for the most time. And a whole bunch of stuff happened in anyway. Let's not talk about the Middle East.
So what do I have? So this is amazing. I actually don't have a podcast happening. No, no, no.
I just wanted to, you know, that beer thing though, Buddha has this Molina stories, right? So Molina stories, the characters, there is Mr. Molina. And the other characters are named up.
So there was a pint of bitters. So there is one scotch and hot scotch and lemon. And there is always one tanker of stout. So Chuck is like the tanker of stout.
He's like, you know, why is sagacious there holding a together. So and Sheila is calling you a pint of bitters, basically. No, she is, you are bitter. Have some pint.
Bitters without bites. Yeah. Amazing. So you don't have a podcast?
What is happening? Yeah, I don't have a podcast. He's kind of interesting. I do want to try and I mean, some folks have been asking about the origin of things.
So and that's going to come back. I'm more interested in converting those into like some kind of re-insense stuff. That's kind of like an idea that's been brewing around in my head. Getting better.
I'm not sure. I think it's a one-time thing really. What else is happening, however? I'm still running my marketing newsletter.
Things are going on pretty nicely. There's a 60 people who paid to become like time subscribers. I think that's kind of kind of awesome. Let's see.
I am teaching at Flame these days, which is taking up a fair bit of my time in my space. And that's interesting. A whole bunch of interest. There is this happening over there.
Flame is a boom. Very close to very close. Yeah. Very close to very close to the same person's college as actually.
In fact, this is a very remarkable person named Yugank Goyal. Who featured on other for my spotters. Yeah. He's also at Flame, I think.
Oh, if you run into him, he's just amazing. And first of all, he should catch up. Yeah, catch, catch that. You know, this is what Amit mentioned to Yugank on his podcast.
This really amazing person called Chakkis also. Apart from that. He's not even the first professor from Flame to make it to the scene in the end. Oh, wow.
Apart from that, there is sort of like a smallish content idea that's been floating around in my head for the last one year or so. Tony knows about this. I have written a couple of... I don't want to call them chapters, but for better wordless.
I mean, yeah, because when you say chapter, that kind of gives the feeling that a book is coming eventually. I still don't know what shape of my take. Did you see that in the audience? Just know.
Yeah. Chakkis will write a book before any does. Yeah, I mean, if that happens, all of you will get to know. And apart from that, I mean, there are bunch of random things that are happening.
I am planning something with our good friend, Utsar Mamoria. It's not a podcast, but it is something related to the content space, which I am not really ready to reveal and all shall be revealed in due course of time. And I don't think by the time this episode, no, it'll take a little longer than that. But yeah, sometimes in April, everyone will get to know something both of us are pretty excited about it.
So yeah, whole bunch of random things happening. It's also getting used to this new city, Pune, kind of finding a feat over here. And really enjoying life over here. So yeah, I mean, so a little bit quite on the podcast run, but a lot else happening to see.
Yeah, Rose, don't worry. Yeah, that's great. Yeah, I mean, and just coming back to going all the way back to what Tumi was saying to some extent, I think it's only, I think you kind of hit it on the head a little bit, where I think the pandemic kind of took a toll on all of us in some, in its own way. And like, I think even, I mean, one thing I would really credit like my mental health surviving through the pandemic to some extent was simplified because that normalcy of doing that episode was like, and being a little bit better.
Yeah, I think that a lot of people do that. So through the pandemic, like doing simplified for both for us, for hosting it. And I think our listeners for like participating in listening to simplified for them also was like, really great event. But also, I think part of where we come from right now is like, I think world post the pandemic has been a little difficult for me, at least to kind of like work with to some extent where it's been just like trying to find your place in the world, like life's been all all over the place and some way or the other.
And I think, yeah, while simplified, was beautiful at the time where it was. And when it lasted, I think at this point, most of us, I think it just after a point just stopped making sense. Like it felt like, yes, it was great when it lasted. But then after a point, we were like, I think we reached a natural conclusion as we often said with our episodes.
Yeah, I think over the last one, logical, I think over the last one year, and of course, Tony knows this very well, I've had many conversations with him on this, it's like, I really started thinking very deeply about what gives happiness, what drives happiness, etc. And I think that episode that you guys did, I think it's not in and Tony that episode on happiness that you did. I think that was in many ways that trigger. And I know it seems a little ridiculous.
When I have conversations about this as well, like, why do I like the kind of music that I do? Why do you like the kind of music or movies or TV shows, etc. What I do? And that little conversation with itself, for example, why do you like the kind of travel that you do?
So, I mean, the project that I'm trying to work on is trying to explore all of these different kind of, let's call them obsessions for now. So yeah, I think that's, I mean, like, I have this to say, okay, yeah, I have this to say. So, you know, I read a little bit about AI, you know, and all these. So, there was this huge thing about AI being, you know, suddenly, it could suddenly, you know, turn into a monster and all that kind of stuff.
And so, there was this philosopher, who it was, but he explained the concept very well. He was talking about instrumental goals and terminal goals. And he was talking in the context of artificial intelligence, but I thought it really applied very well to human beings as well. So, terminal goals are the ones you really want, instrumental goals are the ones which will help you get there.
For example, for money, money, for example, is actually an instrumental goal. Whatever you might want in life, it's almost certainly not just money. You want to money to get something, get buy more, happen with your family, make your family happy or whatever it might use case be. So, those are instrumental goals.
The terminal goals are things that instrumental goals are sharply different from and they can be completely absurd. And the luckiest people are those who have some sort of an inkling. You're never sure, because you know, you might come across something else which might excite your passion and you might go there. But this is what, you know, you're people who have some kind of an inkling, what their terminal goal is are indeed fortunate.
And in your case, I think that's something more fidgetly. Yeah. Yeah. So, it's very, you know, as somebody asked Peter, you know, what do you think I should be when I grow up and Peter was 58 at the time.
And he said, heck, even I don't know what I want to be when I grow up. So, it's like that. The process of discovery takes an entire lifetime. And there is a, you know, there's a very joke actually, which illustrates what a terminal goal actually is.
Okay. So, this is a guy who has only one objective. He wants to make a, so in the, you know, in one of those slingshots with a rubber band and you can shoot birds with them so that in India, it's called Gool-El. So, whenever you ask him, he says, he says, so his parent and he's growing up and this was very cute when he was a kid.
But now he's a grown man and that's all he, anyone asks him what he wants? He says, that's what I want. So, his parents take him to many psychiatrists, many counselors, many therapists, and no one's really able to break that. So, finally, they take him to the finest, most expensive, the wizard of everything.
And that guy says, you have to check him in for three months and I'll completely give him and he'll be all fine. They do that, pay him an astronomical sum of money and then three months later when he comes back, they tell the guy, you know, I think we should get you married, are you willing to get married? So, he says, huh-huh, bill cool. I'd love to get married.
So, they're surprised because he never thought that. All he wanted to do was make a good, so he says, so he says, he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, so he says, that is that is terminal goal for you your clarity of vision to be whatever the hell Trump is wearing. I genuinely thought of getting the anti-performance coming back to find that therapists are what have we doing the same thing. This is amazing.