Simon Hill - The Proof Is In The Plants

Simon Hill is famous for his work in the plant-based lifestyle movement, his predilection for scientific evidence and his in-depth podcast where he interviews experts in nutrition, and other health disciplines. We invited Simon to appear on Discernable as a ‘meta-analysis’ of all the studies he has read and reviewed, and all of the expert interviews he has conducted. Simon’s podcast is an excellent resource to dive deep into the details of a particular issue but we wanted to hear from him about the broad momentum of the plant based movement, healthy nutrition, and world agriculture. As with all of our interviews, we were looking for the ‘why’ and explored Simon’s way of thinking, how to determine good science from bad, and whether he would hypothetically follow the science away from a plant-based lifestyle. What we found was surprising and refreshing. ----------------------------- DISCERNABLE The Video Archive: https://discernable.io Prefer audio? Search for 'It Is Discernable' on Spotify and Apple Podcasts Join our Private Community: https://discernable.locals.com Purchase tickets (and replays) to our Town Halls: https://discernable.io/townhall SIMON HILL https://www.facebook.com/theproofpod https://www.instagram.com/plant_proof https://twitter.com/theproof https://plantproof.com/book ----------------------------- 4:18 Confusion: what is the ‘right’ diet? 5:45 The scientific approach: do not cherry pick your data 7:42 The polarised world of food 9:38 Plant dominant diets 13:15 Multi-variant analysis and healthy user bias 16:00 The demonisation of vegetable oils 17:59 Which oils are good or bad? 20:25 Should we demonise canola oil? 22:50 Are studies trustworthy? 25:29 The EPIC study and the need for multi-variant analyses 29:33 Simon’s journey to plant-based 30:45 Being aware of bias and avoiding echo chambers  34:30 Long term solution to diet, not just short term 38:00 What about caloric reduction?   40:37 Ancestral thinking - Paleo wasn’t the only diet! 46:40 The rise of ultra-processed foods  48:25 The ‘Halo’ effect - hiding bad foods behind healthy catch phrases 52:00 Sustainable food production 56:02 Big corporates love profits more than saving the world 57:53 More transparency in food production 59:45 The future of nutrition 01:01:18 Animal welfare arguments 1:04:20 Ethical dilemma of eating animals 01:05:31 Would Simon change his view if evidence changed? 01:08:40 Simon’s future evolution