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Thanks for having me. Yeah, Peter Bone on the phone. What? That's a rhyme.
What do you want? Teeter-sanquery. The user's in a real movie. Ashley Carmen is here.
Hello. Ashley was sternly instructed to quote, bring the heat. I use the fire emoji. So a lot of promises from Ashley.
We'll see how that goes. But I expect this to be a very warm podcast indeed. I don't know what it means. Look, it's been a weird week.
I would say slow week, but full of moderate scale controversies, opinions. Well, it's a slow week or it's the hottest week depending on how much you care about prosumer camera gear. Yeah. The answer is so much, Paul.
It knew it. It's been a touch of the week people got their iPhones, seven. So a lot of sort of early reactions. Let's just get into it.
Deeter, you reviewed iOS 10. I did. I would say four to five days late, but you did it. You got it out there.
We actually, we did wait a minute on it because I think it's great. But the real thing with it is that apps can apply into some of the operating system. Indeed, or very cleverly, gave himself a longer deadline because he was waiting for apps to update. So he could like use the whole thing.
So Deeter, why don't you stop with that a little bit? I think it's really great. I think that I wanted to wait for useful apps in iMessage and in Siri and I was not rewarded for waiting. It's fine.
Like you can call it Uber from Siri. Some of the stickers in iMessage are cool. The more interesting thing is like the fact that they exist in the abstract that these apps no longer have to live just inside their icons. But the big three things to know about, well, the big three things about terms of where apps live is they can be inside iMessage and do things to make it look like a, I think I called it a Fantas Megoria.
It's just too much for me. They just learned a lot from Snapchat. They can be in Siri, but only certain categories and classes of apps. And I would say about half the time you're using Siri, you're talking to Siri and then it's like, you need to finish this in the app.
It's like, okay, well, why didn't I just open that frickin app in the first place? And then there again in widgets, which were there in iOS 9, but they were like hitting off in a corner of the OS. But now they're like, you swipe left from the home screen. They're there.
You swipe left from the lock screen. They're there. You swipe left from the notification screen and they're there. And as a person who has been trying to make widgets or home screen widgets useful in my life, since I kid you not like 2003 deep in my heart, I want widgets to be a thing.
I want them to matter. I want them to use them. I want them to be useful. I know that that's never going to come true because I never have, but like I still believe.
Are you a confabulator user? No, that's like, that's the predecessor to the widget. The third thing that Apple ever sure locked. Yeah, I didn't buy it.
No. No, I was rocking Ashley. So in the like the early 2000s, Apple had this long history of coming out with new versions of the operating system and the Mac operating. Oh, the Mac, which is Mac OS and a hot new feature would always be they would like go and look at all the third party utilities and like pick when they liked not buy it, copy it and roll it out.
So there was one called Watson, which everybody loves and Apple always one called the show. It was called Watson. Yeah. Yeah.
And the poor guy was like, made lots and was like, well, fuck you. And Apple's like, yeah, it just happens. And then confabulator was a whole widget platform that people love and Apple wrote about dashboard and skills confabulator. Yeah.
Like, they've done it over and over and over again. Yahoo. Yahoo bought confabulator. Yes.
Yahoo bought confabulator. Fun fact, confabulator users, your emails would have. Yeah. Betch.
Should have let the Watson flow over you. Sorry, the Sherlock. The other problem I have with OS 10 is, oh, it's not a problem. All that other stuff is great.
The problem is like the interaction model for notifications is just broken. You have to like three touch everything now. And like the swiping does different things depending if you're on the notification panel or if you're on the lock screen. And you never can tell if you've got a million notifications, which one of those are in.
So you're like, so I think I don't have anything to happen. You don't know why. I don't understand why Apple can't just steal this one thing from Android and just make the notifications consistent. That's all I want.
Yeah. Whenever I get a notification and move or touch my finger to that notification, I want it to do the same thing all the time. Is that too much? I have a short-term memory for interface conventions.
So, but I know that everything I try to do in iOS 10 is wrong. So I know I must have been trained by iOS 9 to do a different thing, but I don't remember what it is. I keep on dismissing them. You have to push really hard.
Yeah. Just from now on, the rule for iOS 10 is just push really hard on everything all the time. Just jam your finger into that screen. Jam your finger onto the home button on your iPhone 7.
Just get really, really aggressive with the thing and you'll be fine. I feel like any touch didn't go off. So I got to say, first of all, I think iOS 10 is way better than iOS 9. It's super polished in so many ways.
It makes a lot of sense. I like the iMessage stuff, but mostly because I control Deeter just a level that no one previously thought possible. It's like, all that's fun and it's great. I was like, I'm going to see them open up.
But the 3D touch, it just feels like it didn't go off last year. No app developers really got into it. So Apple was like, we're going to force people to know it's there by hiding shit in it. And it just, the fact that you can, maybe this is good.
Maybe people do this all the time. Maybe I'm just crazy. The fact that you can have 3D touch any icon on the home screen and one of the options is always share this app. And then you can share a link to the app.
It's like, no, I'm never going to share Instagram with anyone. They already have it. I'm never, ever going to share fucking messages. Like, oh no, no.
That's the only way you can get people to use Aloe with you, man. It's just so silly. It's like, it just feels like they need it to do something. So they tried, you know, there was like a team that was like a 3D touch team.
They weren't getting enough love. Yeah. And it's like, what's that pressure sensitivity anything? They walked around all the rooms on campus and they're like, hey, what happens when you push hard on the screen in your app?
And they were like, nothing. You know, like, name a feature of your app. And they're like, I don't know, sharing. And they're like, yeah, no no no no no no no.
It's right click. The fact that it is right click. The one thing I like it for is podcasts. It basically shows like the four most recent podcasts.
This is my first 3D touch phone. I'm learning a lot. Yeah. Oh, you've got the seven.
Oh, that's another place where we're just going to touch. Wait, wait, wait, wait. Everyone will stop. Okay.
I didn't see this before. Paul picked up his phone. He's sitting on table. He's 90 degrees from me to a small circular table.
His phone was sitting on the table. I saw it there. I didn't realize this. Paul went to pick up his phone to begin, you know, exploring 3D touch and revealed that he has just left the headphone dump and plugged into it.
Just, no headphones. Just talking to me. Oh, look at what it's so wrong. It's so wrong.
It's gross. It's every argument I've ever made about this thing is exemplified in that moment. It's not. It's fine.
It's fine. You know what's not fine? Yeah. It's that T-Mobile hasn't figured out how to activate T-Mobile's really wanted me to buy the iPhone from T-Mobile.
Yeah. And I went along with their plan. I was like, okay, T-Mobile, if you think you got this, well, we got this. So they sent me one in the mail after I paid for it.
And it came to my house with a Sim already in it. And I can get phone calls on it. Yeah. You can make phone calls on it.
But I can't, the data is not activated. I think it might have something to do with, because they simultaneously put me on this new plan. It's unlimited. If you can figure out how to use it, you'll have all this.
Maybe that's their trick. Man, if we don't let them use any data, like a hell of a limit. No limits. Be free to do nothing.
This is just, this is just like my personal, I haven't like found other people talking about this. It's just like my special cursed gadget hell that I always find some way to make something that work. But that's why you're here. Yeah.
I thought we were going to not talk about the headphone jack. I'm not the one who leaves his dongle plugged in. It's so, it's like, it's like waving at that. Oh my God.
They should make like a wallet chain, but it's a headphone jack dongle slash chain and then you have it looped around, you know, like your wallet. Actually, if I feel like there's ever time for you to bring the heat, it's in response to the wallet chain icon. I'm telling you, man. Bring it back.
I mean, I'm just going to say no. I don't think I need to say anything else. I didn't say it was a good idea. I just said that they should do it.
So I was saying we got to stick to the phone forever last week. I was saying, did anything, I think I had big thoughts. Like the fact that breaking down the walls of their various things, but I'm not letting you set a default email. Yes.
Exactly. Like you want to, like you want to use the iPad Pro as your main computer and the thing that holds you back is like there are things like deep into the OS that like you can do on a iPad. And sometimes you don't want to do that stuff. And that's fine.
But like having the option every now and then is actually kind of important. And rather than just like say, okay, we figured out the security model, we're going to open this stuff up for power users. Apple is just like opening tiny little doors. It's like you guys know what an advent calendar is?
Yes. Yes. So it's like it's the advent calendar. And then every day leading up to the day when iOS is actually useful, Apple lets you open up one more door to get a little chocolate of usability.
And you know, we're on, we're finally now on like, I don't know, December 17th of the advent calendar. And we've just hopefully got just a few more days, AKA years to have it be on par in terms of like the flexibility you actually need from your primary computer. Basically all I want to know is I don't use Siri. Should I be using Siri?
No. Okay. All right. Cool.
Yeah. Really? No. Yeah.
I didn't think it would change my life at all. I try to use Siri a lot. Like I want it to work. It never works.
The best it can do. The best user Siri is when you, if you know Siri can't answer your question, it is a slightly faster way to search the web. I like it for alarms. Last night my phone was out of arms reach.
So I said, Hey Siri, set an alarm for 7 a.m. And then I slept at it. I think I can phone just if you use like Apple. I try to do that so that everybody's phones would go.
You're dead. No one else is. Sorry. If you use Apple reminders, it's good.
But I don't. If you use like sometimes it's okay for like setting calendar stuff, but yeah, I don't know. I use it in the car. That's it.
Yeah. I try to make it call me an Uber yesterday. Uber has the continual problems not actually knowing where I am. So allowing the robot to just ask a car to go somewhere.
Right. Somewhat at random. I can't. My phone thinks that I live where I used to live like five years ago and I can't find the one setting that tells my phone where I actually lived.
So I definitely would not trust it for Uber. But wait, with this new app integration, Dieter, can you make Siri add reminders to a different app? That would be really nice if they want to do that. All of these intelligence assistants, the only one that's actually open is Alexa.
Everything else is super locked down and you got to like form a partnership. Siri is slightly more open than they have an API for different apps to talk to it, but they're only allowing certain categories of apps and that would be calls, messaging, payments, photos, ride sharing apps, car play, stuff. So like you can tell it's from the heat down in your car and workout apps. But like.
So we got to wait to open a few more advent calendar doors to get reminders and. Right. Which is like, I don't know, fine, but also I don't know. It's super apple.
It's different from apple in the past. They're not like way locked down, but it's still like you got to wait for permission from apple to do the thing that you want to do in your computer rather than just doing the thing you want to do in your computer. I want to say my least favorite part of iOS is that I always have a bunch of notifications on my lock screen and I used to be able to just clear like a couple and then all of them would clear and now I have to go through all of them. Anyway, you have it, which fun do you have iOS six or the six?
Yeah. Oh, just hold the button. You force force the X at the top and you can get a click all of them. I'm telling you can't believe you weren't forced to do it.
All you have to do and I was just push it really hard. But when I first thought it gives me the reply. I was just touching the X. No, no, no, the X.
Oh, the X. Yeah. So you hold the X then. Maybe we should do like like some service.
Right now I'm like some service. Oh, go ahead. I'll make sure that's true. Like a little how to guide.
Does that work? Yeah, it works. It's like here's how to use iOS 10. It's like you're pushing this hard and it's a little image that shows how many pressure, how much pressure.
Yeah. What's the metric for pressure? What if I'm just on the last one? Okay.
Which is really, really metaphorically rich. Yeah. You're like up your newtons. What do you think of when you hear newtons of force?
Casey's rap coming rap album. Drop it in hammer. Lead single newtons of force. It's a force.
Let's talk about Sierra. So I installed Sierra today and then immediately got an email from our studio IT team saying don't install Sierra. You'll break the terablock. The terablock is a video storage solution.
But I don't use it. Right. Because I mostly just type in to Twitter. But I installed it.
I have Siri on this thing now. Hey, could you copy and paste something real quick? It doesn't work. I haven't gotten into work.
Did it have you gotten universal copy based work? No, I'm refusing to install Sierra because my favorite Mac utility, carabiner with a K, which lets you remap the caps lock key to any button you want doesn't work yet. Ooh. Yeah, wait for it.
That is so hyper specific. You need to special you to do this. Yes. I feel like I do that from my system preferences.
I feel like that, but you're wrong. My cap lock is maybe to make it a key command. I have it mapped to F17, which doesn't exist on the keyboard, but F17 launches Alfred. I just do that.
I just do that. I just do that. I have it for all utility. Okay.
You can switch it to control option or command or caps lock. I have set this control. Okay. We can do magical imaginary function keys.
I mean, this computer, this particular Mac with pros dying so hard. I can't make it worse. I would say it's moderately better, but it is very much. I mean, we've talked about the Mac on the show so many times.
There's just nothing happening here. Like adding Siri to this and some tiled windows. It's very much like using the web browser and Slack and Twitter app. Well, so Jake wrote a review for it and his thoughts actually lined up really well with what I thought in the preview, which is that series is like least interesting part of it.
The most interesting part is that they basically brought Idisk back and although it's been buggy for people, the dream of like regular normals being able to have their desktop and documents folder magically sync to the cloud is like a really good idea. Hopefully they can nail the implementation a little bit better. That's like cool. I mean, I would say that the first thing that happened when I installed Siri on this Mac and it rebooted a window popped up and said, would you like to sync your desktop and documents folder to the cloud?
I was like, yeah, that sounds great. I'll be able to look at all the screenshots of my desktop on my phone. And then I said, okay. And then I said, sinking 48 gigs of stuff.
I don't need my desktop in the cloud right now. Like, you know what? I don't need that. You got to pay for that too.
Yeah. And of course, if you have a medium good internet service and you'd like eight bucks a month, I'm just sign up for it and forget about it. It happens with, I think I think for title still, the last title customer, Neil Eppetown. Wait, Ash, I've asked you, is I message blowing up your world?
Not at all. Really? I was so excited about it and none of my friends care and none of them are even using any features. We use GIFs occasionally.
Yeah. I'm the one in my group of friends who's just like lasers. I think because everything is the forced touch. And it's like, who wants to do that?
I have to pull it up effects. Right. Like, I don't want to, and to react to something if it's forced touch on them. Like, it's just too much.
Yeah. I don't want to go through those steps. But the stickers are great. The stickers are great.
Especially Dummy stickers. With me and Paul got exclusive preview. Why? The beta for Dummy stickers.
Dummy and the stick. Oh my god. Yeah. Yeah.
I think somebody lives in the very chest. So you can buy your products and services. And I want to blow up her spot. But it got rejected for the company.
What? What? What? What?
I think she's going to add all this out of the podcast. No. Because she said it as four plus and one of the stickers says IDGAF. Oh my god.
Come on. Are you kidding? That's her theory. Man.
That's her family. I mean, technically this one. And they took like a week to review that. There was a meeting.
That's such good stickers. Do you think that stands for fudge? It's like a judge. It's like no, no.
I overruled. Oh man. I feel bad for Don. You know, Apple's show, Planet of the Apps.
The App Store. It should be App Core. Oh my god. That's so smart.
And it's just rejected app developers going in front of Phil Schiller who's dressed in a wig and just wrote a show. Do you think that Schiller should be judged like her though? Who should the Wopner of App Core be? It's got to be Schiller.
That's what I'm saying. But like in a long wig. Wait. And then there should be like, it's all coming together for you.
And then there's like shady behind the scenes dealings where first party developers and Apple get stuff into it because they like trading favors. Yeah. Me and Mutter is like, what if I had my own App Store page which said Notify instead of buy? I'm sure it was going to meet me in the parking lot.
That's so annoying because every time I open the App Store now it's like Mario run. It's the best new app. I'm like, oh, they're at least I've followed for it three times. I just click on the page three times.
Because what if this is the time? What if they forgot to notify me? Is it over the time? Well apparently not.
Wait. So Ashley, what's your messaging app with choice? Oh, I use message. Yeah.
You just don't use any of the effects. No. I'm going to show you some lasers. I tried to get my friends to use it.
I'll do it to them because I'm like, do it back. I want to see what I'm going to do. And then they don't. And I'm like, that was the whole point.
No one's ever even tried it. I did find a use for, there's the one that lands the thing and it shivers. Oh yeah. And my friend told me that he was going to second date with a girl and I was like, oh, and I did that.
And I'm like, shivered on the screen. He was like, I hate it. Because it completely encapsulated the 90s teen show. Wait, wait, wait, wait.
Why are there a Taptic Engine iMessage effects? We can just buzz in the market. Have special buzzes on the messages. Do you know my favorite Taptic Engine gimmick is right now?
It's so stupid. It's the breathe app that reminds you to breathe when it's telling you to inhale, it taps you ever faster to make it feel like the watch is expanding. That does not sound relaxing at all. I put that sound at great.
So two other Apple things and we should move on. Actually, they're the same thing in different ways. Apple rumored to buy a clarin, the super car company, the super car company, but also a super car company. And Apple rumored to buy lit motors like motorcycle self balancing startup.
The car stuff just kind of. I buy some AI stuff too. McLaren denied it, but they're tense. It was like they denied.
They're like, we have not any talks today. I just wanted to be true. Yeah. I just like, there's a part of me that like, man, if I had that cash, I'd be buying a lot of companies.
Yeah. So it's just like, please, Apple, let me live vicariously through you where I can buy McLaren in a fantasy world. We did, Jordan, you also did a great story for us. It was like, this is a perfect sense.
And like a lot of it makes perfect sense. McLaren is super high end material science people. They're obviously great building cars. They like, they're deep in carbon fiber and surfaces and control engineering.
Like all this in the last one was like, in our office was designed by the Singapore Tech's Apple's office. And you know, that one's like on Tim Cook's list. He's like, oh, we won't even have to change the furniture. Just move right in.
Anyway, that's what's happening. I don't, you can speculate, but the Apple car stuff continues to be hot, even face of reports kind of earlier this month that they were rebooting the project. But it's out there. It's the news.
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Fokkeen, you know, we got a few of these smaller trade shows a year. This is usually a really fun one because cameras are fun and they're beautiful look at all that stuff. This one seemed really down. Really?
There was like a big, you know, Fuji put out a crazy medium format digital back. And then Rev the M series, which is a mirrorless thing, which is exciting because you can use the family of Canon lenses with it. But overall, very down and Vlad's point was, look, there's only two companies that really make sensors. Canon and Sony, every else is dependent on them.
And smartphones are just generally getting so good that the entire bottom to middle of the market is getting eaten away. Well, that's the middle thing is going on for a while. I mean, the thing that I thought was really interesting is that the top end, like the pace of innovation isn't happening at a place where there's any need to replace what you currently have. Yeah.
I mean, I think there was a moment when smartphones ate the point and shoot and everybody wanted to buy either a cheap DSLR or a mirrorless rig. I certainly didn't expect a lot of our listeners to do that. And it was fun. It's like cool to carry on one of those vintage range finder-y mirrorless rigs.
And they are spectacularly beautiful things. So it was fun to have them. But like, I don't know, the iPhone 7 Plus, that deaf feature rolled out in the beta today. Wow.
It's so amazing. Yeah. You see them playing with it? Yeah.
And Mark took a photo of me and I was just like, damn. You look good. I look great today. I mean, I was just, I was blown away actually.
Two of our video people went outside and shot Test photos of Andrew in Brent Park and the cops stopped them because they brought a refactor and he thought it was like a legal professional photo shoot. And they're like, no, it's just an iPhone. Whoa. So the improvement I was eating in the mirrorless rig and also there's no reason to buy a new mirror.
If you bought a mirrorless camera three years ago, there's not much of a reason by a new one. Yeah. Right. I'm sure there's a point where, yeah, we already take photos like what do you need more resolution for unless you're like, need to like crop way in on your photos or something like that.
You don't, you don't need a ton more fidelity. I guess probably cameras are mostly, man, I'm just making this up, but I would have. What they do is they steal your soul. Camera still is the problem.
Never look into the. But the glass. The glass is the. What is the, what is the, like, I think of the word the bottleneck, the bottleneck.
Hey, what's that? And so the glass is the bottle. God, it's so well said. So eloquent.
The sensors are amazing. And the camera will be like, you know, $2,000 and it's like all the camera you'll ever need. Right. But then you need to spend $15,000 on glass to really do something.
Here's the things that would get me to buy. Like if I were to buy needed something like a DSLR, I would buy one that's a couple years old. If I were to buy something new, they'd either have to radically improve the connectivity. So I'm not dealing with like garbage, like get my phone to connect to the camera's wifi network.
Maybe Bluetooth next year would be better, but they need to like make the thing feel like it's connected to the internet in a much more tangible way than it is. But they haven't done that. Or the thing I'm actually waiting for is like these new medium format cameras, like they're getting close to feeling like a more traditional DSLR. And like that is what I want.
I like that's why that Fuji is really interesting to me. But you know, it's like a pretty first gen, but like I don't see any reason if the camera's not going to be radically connected to buy a new DSLR unless it is one of these medium formats. And like in a year or two, when they get like a little bit more mature, like that would be my reason to upgrade. Otherwise, I don't see the value.
Yeah, I think I was just looking, you know, when you, there's like the new photos and I was 10 on Sierra. So like, you know, whenever you like play with photos up, you're not looking at old photos. And like five years ago, I took fewer photos, but they were all way better because I was either going out with my Canon S series, which was like a really nice point and shoot, or I was taking my DSLR out and now I just use my phone. So I take way more photos, but they're all of noticeably lower quality because I'm just like, I'm just like, I'm taking a photo of my phone.
And I used to have to think about it a little bit more. And like, I don't know how I feel about that trade off at all. Like, I have so many better photos of vacations I took three years ago because I took all those photos on a D7000, which was a pain in the ass to take everywhere. But it was a tank.
And so I actually stopped worrying about hurting it, but I took it everywhere. It was a huge pain to look like around. I took better photos with it. And now I just like take my phone.
And I've way more photos of all the vacations I've been on recently. I feel like that's what I feel with like film cameras though. Yeah. Like if I have a film camera or like a disposable even, I have to think about what I'm taking.
And that adds some levity to it. Yeah. Whereas I would never bring a big camera on a vacation because I'm like, I'm a phone. Like I'll just shoot whatever.
So you know what I'm saying? I'm not saying that film. Something about the film will make me work. Yeah.
Well, you have a whole riff about like putting it on the camera. Well, I'm more just in like who's buying cameras. Yeah. Honestly, I'm serious because I don't know anyone who's bought a camera in the past.
Not even like film cameras? I have a bunch of like already Brooklyn friends who have all bought silly film cameras in the past year too. I mean, I know people bought like insects. Right.
I don't know anyone who bought a DSLR or any nicer, like point and shoot camera. Right. But the insects thing is like really interesting because it's blowing up. I see them everywhere.
Yeah. No, that's what's going on. Two cameras. One of which is like a joke with Michael Kors in snacks.
But I feel like they speak to a trend of like maybe it's just consumer like like minor consumers, like me who ever just want to buy these more tangible objects. Something that they can actually have fun with and not spend a lot of money, but it's different than your phone. It's just fun. Yeah.
But how much is the Michael Kors? I think it was like $140. Okay. $140.
Yeah. It's had a lot for insects or is it just more like Michael Kors? No, insects is $120. Okay.
So it's $20. I believe it was only $20. It's like a champagne plastic. Yeah.
You know, Lady Gaga's Polaroids Creative Director. Oh, she never did anything with that. But Michael Kors, he figured it out. To be honest.
Ashley, find by an Instax camera. Which one should I get? Not the Michael Kors. Come on.
No, I mean like literally $30. That's like the good compact cameras, like the really good mirrorless cameras. They're like $1,000. Yeah.
And that the Instax would be a lot. If you want to have a tangible object, but you don't want it to be your like saying it. Yeah, exactly. It's we're just fun.
And that's what cameras should be. But you also run out the HP sprocket printer, which one of the best posts in the site this week. Just because it's so cool. It's really great.
This is really great. This is how it happened. Sean was like, hey, HP sent me this thing that I don't want to deal with. You want to check it out?
So I walked over to Sean's desk. He headed it to me. It was covered in pictures of happy vacation women. It's a portable Bluetooth printer made by HP.
Yeah, happy vacation women, by the way, the best unreleased special. I opened the box and I was like, this isn't for me. I closed the box and I walked over to Ashley handed to her and then went back to my desk. I just wanted to actually wrote this.
It's basically a review of the product without a photo of the product or even a photo of its output. It's just pictures of things that you can make in the app that are just blatant trolls of people sitting around. If you know, you don't know anything about our office. You're in your car.
You're listening to this. You're cruising on the highway. You're having a good time. Here's a situation in our office at the verge of every day.
There is a couch table. There's a kitchen for a brief period. We got rid of the orange couch and got the really bad ones briefly. There was a couch wall about new couches that were way nicer.
There was a mutiny. Everybody went in the kitchen. Through the new couches, I brought the old couches back. This is irrelevant.
The real power in the verge of being a couchable. It's terrifying. I don't go over there. Not hitting out for the couch wall.
If you know where Ashley sits usually on the couch and you look at this post, you're like, she didn't even get up. She literally broke the street sitting right here. One of the photos that she printed out is a screen couch from a Facebook laptop. Ashley did a really good job.
Tell us about sprocket. It is a Bluetooth printer. You can print from your phone. I think the shtick is supposed to print your Instagrams.
But the app is way better because it lets you put stickers and write on the photos. But it's silly. Oh, it's a joke. It's $10 a print.
It's $10 for 20 prints. Which are stickers. Physical stickers. So there's one sticker on the house.
Exactly. But this is what I was saying to Paul is that I don't know what to do with these photos. Where do you store them? I have a real question.
Where do you store real things? Like photos. Yeah, I just want to put it. Where do you put it?
I had to search for Iraq to put a media bookcase. The market for those is so collapsed that they're all bad. Are you looking for one with all those slots for individual that keep each one? Well, this used to be a large part of the market.
You have a lot of print out photos. You can use scrapbooking. There's boxes. There's finders.
How do you feel about them? I feel like if I was going to get heavy into physical media right now, I'd go look for it. Go to court court. Paul's like hitting up VHS.
All right. We're going to do one more quick. Wait, we didn't find out how she feels about court boards. Paul.
Obviously no. Wow. There it is. Circuit breaker team on fire today.
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I got a lot in here about the HTC HD2. No. Yes. It's a whole thing.
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You reviewed Aloe with the deck. This is amazing. And then they're starting to hit, they're doing a big ad campaign about their event coming up next month. Let's just go through it all.
So Aloe is a text messaging app that Edward Snowden very much does not want you to use. Yes, Snowden tweeted our link. He like tweeted it like five times. So I wrote the review and then when they were telling you about the app they told me that they were changing their data retention policies.
It's basically the same thing as Gmail. They're going to keep the stuff and it could be subpoenaed, et cetera. So I was like, oh, I should write that too. Wait, I'm busy.
Plus Russell is way smarter about this stuff than I am. So I let Russell write it. And so his story went up and Edward Snowden saw it and just went bonkers. And he's not wrong.
So it's fine. Do you want an app to send little bits of text and stickers to somebody? Aloe can do that. Do you want an app where you can do Google searches without having to leave the app?
Aloe can do that too. But it's not like a full conversational text bot as you might want. But it's fine. Do you want an app that you can use for more than just one single phone?
Nope. Do you want an app you can use from the web or from your desktop? Nope. It's like that's a problem for me.
It's probably not a problem for the vast majority of humans on the planet. But the vast majority of humans on the planet have got a million other apps to choose from. So Google did a very good job achieving a very small goal. To be clear, there is like an incognito mode or something.
Yes. They call it incognito, which is hilarious. I don't know. It's like they might as well call it like this is for sexting.
But that encrypts it end to end. It never gets started on Google servers. And you can set the messages to auto destruct after they've been read by your recipient. And when you start an auto, if you like started incognito chats, they're starting regular chat, they'd like the chat still there.
So it doesn't go away. So it's like not that much more inconvenient. So you could just use incognito for everything and it would probably be fine. But it's not the default.