Skipping College, Finding Vocation and Dignified Work

from Sword&Spade · host Jason Craig

Cody and Sebastion share their journey from schooling to careers in framing and construction instead of college. They discuss starting in the trades as teenagers, launching a construction company, Atlas, choosing to stay rooted in their local community, converting to Catholicism, and building a culture of craftsmanship. The conversation explores work-life integration, mentorship, competency over artificial self-esteem, and the future of skilled trades.Chapters00:00 - Introduction & Background03:34 - Cody's Journey into Construction08:01 - The College Question14:30 - Starting Atlas Framing Company19:49 - Sebastian's Path26:03 - From General Contractor to Specialist33:37 - Faith & Conversion45:58 - Community & Rootedness49:23 - Catholic Trade Schools & Durable Trades56:13 - The Future of Construction1:07:45 - Competency Over Self-Esteem1:11:25 - Work Culture & Faith on the Job SiteFind more conversations like the one in this episode by joining the readership of Sword&Spade Magazine! Resources Letters to a Young Catholic by George WeigelDurable Trades by Rory Groves Shop Class as Soulcraft by Matthew CrawfordFraternusProduced by Saint Kolbe Studios

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