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EPISODE · Aug 9, 2019 · 53 MIN

Smartphone Season: Samsung Galaxy Note 10 & Note 10+...Everything We Know

from Waveform: The MKBHD Podcast · host MKBHD

This is the inaugural episode of the Waveform, the MKBHD podcast! Today's show includes a quick dive into the beginning of our epic podcast adventure and our goals for the future. We take a look at the upcoming "Smartphone Season" and discuss the facts and rumors surrounding the most anticipated smartphones, including the August 23rd launch of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 and Note 10+.  For further info on what we discussed: Simone Giertz Mantis Shrimp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoPYnwPKKY  Wawa Doubles Tesla Superchargers: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-superchargers-to-double-in-wawa-stores-2020/  The MKBHD Podcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/wvfrm    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This is the inaugural episode of the Waveform, the MKBHD podcast! Today's show includes a quick dive into the beginning of our epic podcast adventure and our goals for the future. We take a look at the upcoming "Smartphone Season" and discuss the facts and rumors surrounding the most anticipated smartphones, including the August 23rd launch of the Samsung Galaxy Note 10 and Note 10+.  For further info on what we discussed: Simone Giertz Mantis Shrimp: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmoPYnwPKKY  Wawa Doubles Tesla Superchargers: https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-superchargers-to-double-in-wawa-stores-2020/  The MKBHD Podcast Twitter: https://twitter.com/wvfrm    Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hire the right pro today. All right, what's up everybody? It's Marquez here, AKA MKVHD. Here, along with my co-host for Waveform, Andrew Manganelli.

What's up, everyone? All right, so it's finally here. We've sort of teased this sort of unintentionally, but we've teased it for a while. It's been in the works, and we wanted to do it right, but I'm finally excited to say we're launching a podcast.

And you know what a podcast is already? It's audio. This is episode one, and sort of feels good to get started. Yeah, it feels really good.

We've been talking about this for a long time. I'd say like the last six months has been like, we've been ready to really shoot it. So it's really exciting to do this. I'm pretty pumped.

I listened to Africa my total like four times on my way here. Is that what you pumped up? Okay, so we're ready, I think. Okay, so before I guess before we get into the main topic, because we're going to have topics and it's sort of like a chat show of a whole bunch of tech things.

Let's just talk for a second about what Waveform is, because there's a bunch of tech podcasts already. There's a bunch of YouTuber podcasts already. So I'll just talk about what Waveform is for a second. So for everyone who's a new listener, which is everyone, a podcast.

So we've had the YouTube channel, the MKVHD channel, just a nine million subscribers, by the way. Shout out to everyone who is subscribed, thank you. I think the best way to describe this podcast is a combination of my extra thoughts and feelings on the gadgets, on the tech, and then also a lot of behind the scenes. So we'll have conversations around the studio about things while we're shooting videos, or we come into work a little bit early and kind of rant about something, and that would have done pretty great, actually, at the podcast.

I wish we recorded that. Yeah, exactly. So that's the sort of thing that's going to show up. And then we'll also have, I think, a little bit of an interview style thing.

They're not super formal interviews, but I feel like we can have YouTubers on, we can have people in tech business on, and it all sort of flows into one place. So we just have a place to share it now. Yeah, and non-formals fun. I mean, videos are pretty concise and everything, and sometimes non-formals just fun to talk about.

Little things that would make it into a video, and now we just have plenty of time. You probably have a long commute, so get ready to listen to a lot of rambling. Do you listen to podcasts just during commutes in the meantime? Yeah, I'd say, like, every other Thursday, I look forward to my commute because I know new reply all episodes out.

And it's a favorite. Yeah, we live in North Jersey, the traffic is horrific. So it's pretty magical to actually have something that kind of takes your mind off of not moving in front of behind a truck for an hour every morning. Yeah, so I just want to break down Andrew for a second, because it's not just me on the podcast, Andrew.

I would call you the assistant producer, the right-hand man in the studio, every time I'm in the studio, but also a whole bunch of other interests that are sort of parallel to mine. So you're a gamer much more than I am. Yeah, yeah, for a long time. I've been gaming for as long as I can remember.

So there's going to be, if there's gaming stuff that's in the news that we're talking about, Andrew's the guy who's going to share what the deal is with the gaming. There's also, we both play Ultimate, so that's something we might talk about on occasion. Somebody's got a pretty important game coming up this weekend, I think. So yes, surely after we record this, I'll be heading to San Jose to play in the semi-finals and then hopefully the finals of the ADL Championship weekend, which is the per-ultimate frisbee league that we play in.

Yep, good luck. It's going to be a good weekend. But yeah, so yeah, the format of waveform is, it's waveform, it's audio. I feel like that was the best way to name it, is to just go straight up simple, the logo is clean, designed by you.

Took a long time. But for something so simple, simple takes time and being a not great, simple takes the most time. Yeah, I guess it looks painfully simple. I'm sure everyone that looks at it's like, why did I take you a long time?

But I did, but whatever it's here. Yeah, let me see where we are. It's finally happening. Okay, so I want to start off by introducing a couple of things that I think can be great, regularly occurring segments.

Number one, I think we're going to do this podcast regularly and there's going to be videos in between. We can talk about things that happened on YouTube and in videos since the last podcast. So the last video was the RedmiK20 Pro and then the Note 10 impressions. We're going to dive into Note 10.

But yeah, that's one thing. And another is just things that have happened in the tech world and the news that honestly, we come into the studio and we talk about this news and we'll also have Brandon and Vin and here all the time and we'll just talk about like, oh, what Tesla's adding a bunch of superchargers to Wild West stations? That's an awesome little bit of news. And then we'll talk about it for 10 minutes and then nobody, we don't really share it or tweet it or anything.

So that's kind of what this will be. Something that's like, it's too long to talk about in a tweet but too short to talk about in a video. Now we have this. We have a couple minutes at the start of all our podcast where we can just talk about what happened since the last podcast pretty much and yeah, yeah.

So segue into that. Sure. What has happened the last couple of weeks? Okay, perfect.

So I guess to start off, we'll just sort of go through the last like week or so of small tech bits of news that we talked about. First thing is actually a little bit of self-awesome. Shout out to Phil Defranco for that. Self-awesome from whatever he calls it.

Just finished shooting Retro Tech season one. Now I don't wanna, I can't spoil too much of it. Like I don't wanna tell you, I'll say there are six episodes, right? You've seen like a lot of us shooting it around the studio and I got to see the shooting of a couple of them and they're fun.

There are a lot of fun here. There's some great guests. There's some great YouTubers. There's some great interviews and the six pieces of tech that we chose because again, these are like milestone like really important pieces of tech.

I think are a nice like healthy variety of some of the most important pieces of tech ever made. Very much so. Yeah. So we finished, we shot for well, almost two months for those six weeks.

Now it's going into sort of the post phase and editing but I've mentioned in the past, this is all coming out in December. So, RetroTech season one, episodes will start coming out in December and that's pretty exciting. That's really exciting. Yeah.

Do you have any favorite piece of RetroTech that aren't as old as the ones that we did? I mean, yeah, even I've got a couple of years on Marquez and still everything that I saw we did was before my time. Actually, the only thing I can really think of is the Game Boy which we can talk about because that episode is out. You haven't seen it, it's great.

Check it out. But something that's important that, I mean, I'm big on gaming. My first game system personally was a PlayStation, the original PlayStation. I did grow up playing a couple other ones.

I remember the old Super Nintendo and playing Paper Boy and that fun stuff. Do you think more people started as gamers, as console gamers or as PC gamers? Because I feel like as a kid, you start to get into console gaming first. I think console gaming is that easier way of, oh, my parents know I like playing video games.

So, they don't go like. They don't know what to do. So, they just get a game in Walmart. Exactly.

And honestly, when I remember when Xbox first came out, I wasn't even that excited about it. And my mom, who's incredible, copy one for Christmas, heard that there was this game called Halo. I'd never heard of it. I've been a first person shooter gamer since that's happened.

So, it's informative years, yeah. Yeah, pretty much my mom chose my genre of gaming that I like so much, which is interesting. But it's different. Yeah, PC, I have heard a lot of people get into PC gaming young.

Usually that's from, it's been around longer. So, usually that's from a parent who gained on their PC. Yeah. I'm sure everyone knows Shroud.

Shroud's dad apparently was a played counter-strike a lot. So, he started playing counter-strike early. Now he's like a counter-strike so far. Oh, that's another thing you gotta keep me in touch with because we talk about YouTube and videos all the time, but streaming and Twitch and Mixer and all these other things that are happening in the streaming world that also don't follow as much.

I mean, the fact that you just said Mixer out loud is something that's been in the news recently. We all know Ninja just went to Mixer and that's all I know. Yeah, so the fact that just proves that all these people are saying oh, Ninja made a bunch of money moving to Mixer. Well, Marcus just said Mixer out loud.

That's why they paid him because people who don't know the streaming platform saw that news. Now they know Mixer's a thing. Yeah, it exists pretty much. And so they did exactly what they're looking for.

Yeah, I will say I was in the green room of a shoot that you'll see what show I was a part of very soon, but that's like half of what we talked about was Tesla for awhile and Mixer and Ninja and what that meant for media for a little bit. It's a fascinating conversation, but you'll have to give me up to date on that. Okay, one of the little piece of news that I kind of sort of hinted at earlier that I loved is first of all, Tesla we talked about a ton on this. So I have a Tesla I've been driving one for awhile.

Brandon, we got to get him on an episode coming up soon, but he drives a Model 3, plenty of friends with Teslas in the area. We just naturally talk about the company a lot. I think ever since we interviewed Elon, that was kind of like a popular topic actually. And something they're constantly ahead with is supercharging.

And if you're in the tri-state area, you've probably heard of Wawa. If you're in the Northeast. If you haven't, you need to. Oh yeah, it's popular.

And a lot of them have Tesla superchargers, specifically at them. Actually the one closest to our studio here in New Jersey is a Tesla supercharger in a Wawa parking lot. And so one piece of news, we'll try to include in the show notes if we can, like the links to the exact articles you talk about, but in the New Jersey and Philly area, they're doubling down and adding, I think they said they're doubling. I think doubling, I think there's around 16 Wawa's right now with superchargers, which doesn't sound like that much Wawa's everywhere.

But doubling's also, Wawa's also around down in Florida, surprisingly. It kind of hits this like New Jersey to Delaware area, and then just skips all the way down to Florida, but. And for those unfamiliar, a lot of Wawa's have gas stations. Yes, right.

So yeah, all the new ones. So people, so if you're at a Wawa and there's a gas station right there, they'll also put superchargers, sort of talked away in the corner of the parking lot. I just love seeing new superchargers get built. It's sort of a constant reminder that they're moving forward with it.

Yeah, and it's cool just seeing a company coming out and saying, hey, we want to double this. We want to increase it. I mean, it's probably great for their business also, because you're sitting there for an hour and they sell food. So why not go in and grab a hoagie?

Oh, yeah. I don't know if everyone knows what a hoagie is. I think that's a pre-regional term. It's a bunch of names.

A sub-hero. You're going to start to get our lingo as we do this podcast more often than words we say that you might not have heard, but I think hoagies, one of them. Hoagie is like a submarine sandwich, if that's even what you call it, but yeah, a sandwich. On top of news, we ourselves, we watch a lot of content online.

I think it's safe to say that. Yeah, I mean, I know Marques does, because every time I ask him if he's seen a new TV show, he has no idea what I'm talking about. Here's the thing, I have an Netflix account. I have not logged in in months.

I don't watch Hulu. I have TV, but like I really only watch live sports. I hope you're at least letting people in your family of the Twitter Netflix account. I just watched a lot of on-demand content, and that's YouTube for me, so I watch tons and tons of YouTube.

So I think what we're getting at is another awesome segment to regularly have on this podcast would be like, you know, what we've seen in joining YouTube. Yeah, that's a little bit. Videos that really stood out. Phil Durango does something very similar to this.

He goes through a lot of things. I think we're gonna pick one or two maybe a week or every other podcast and talk about it. Today's is probably not anything you'd be expecting. And I almost always have you not seen it, because you just flew in and sat right down here.

So we all know Simone Yertz, I believe his head pronounce your last name? Yeah. Shady Robockerel, I hope people still call her that, or I feel really fancy saying that, but okay, cool. She just made a video where she got a chance to fly out to New Zealand and work with the people who did all the costume design for Lord of the Rings.

So that's pretty cool. They told her, we will build you a costume. Any costume you want. And you know, they're the Lord of the Rings.

Yes. Some designers, they're gonna create something incredible. So her idea was a business, Mantis Shrimp. A business?

Mantis Shrimp. Yes. Costume professionally made. Some of that.

Do you know what a Mantis Shrimp is? I think I know what a Mantis Shrimp is, but there, if you don't know what a Mantis Shrimp is, you have to look up a video on it, because they're the most fascinating creatures in the world. Don't think of like a shrimp you eat, like in a shrimp cocktail. Think of a tad bigger, think of the most insane colors.

Think of the Galaxy Note 10's back right now. That's basically the colors this thing is feeding off, and it's violent. Like the shrimp. It is a nasty little creature.

Okay. It essentially has these little, it has claws or it has these little pummeling balls they call it, that hit snails for the eat. Essentially, it can create so much force punching these snails that it creates a vacuum in the water that like super heats the water when it's hitting these things. It's incredible.

Oh my God. It is also a super fascinating looking animal. I need to look up a mission. I don't know.

Yeah. Wait, let me pull one up. Oh wow, so I'm looking at a Mantis Shrimp right now. It looks like an insect underwater.

It is exactly that Oraglow Note 10 color, and it's not a friend looking crustacean either. It's poised. It is standing upright, arched back, and ready to mess your day up at this scale. She gets a costume that looks like this full size.

It's incredible. I can't even describe how good it is, how much I was laughing and still bewildered at the end of it. Of like, it's basically the arms and the head features of this with like an old crusty suit, like a 70s lawyer would wear or something like that. Or it's awesome.

It's incredible. It's about 20 minutes long, but the video is so good. I will have to check it out. This is part of why we're going to do this is like either Andrew will share a video with me, or I'll share a video with Andrew will pass back and forth.

And if you guys have good stuff that you want us to share that you don't think we've seen, definitely pass it our way, the waveform Twitter. It's always open. Yeah. But speaking of Oraglow, I think that jumps us right into our big topic.

Samsung Galaxy Note 10. Is this the death of the headphone jack? Is this it? It's hard to say no.

I mean, like after Samsung's kind of was our savior for so long, they were the no compromises, what you called the Note 9. What's the phrase? You either you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become villain. Well, that's, that's what we're at with Samsung right now.

They've dropped their first flagship with that headphone jack. So now that we've declared that Samsung is the villain, you did a poll recently on Twitter, just about the headphone jack that I thought was pretty interesting. Do you want to share the results of that? Yeah.

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So Samsung, Galaxy Note 10, a lot of thoughts, a lot of feelings. I was generally pretty positive. I had about an hour to play with it for my first impressions, shot a lot of footage. So of course that took a lot of my attention, but generally Galaxy Note 10 got a lot of attention.

The main thing that I think we're just sort of still lingering on is the lack of headphone jack in a Samsung flagship. I think a lot of people thought they might have waited till the S11 to drop it. That's what I would have guessed if they were going to. Yeah, but they ended up doing it pretty quickly here.

First of all, are you a headphone jack guy or not? Not really anymore. I'm lucky enough to have Bluetooth in my car. So I've been get, I got used to that.

I surprisingly don't put headphones in that often. True. It's changed now with like Google Home all over my house. I'd rather just blast it until Clary also get to turn it off.

And then I don't listen to headphones anymore. I barely run either. So maybe that's a big reason, but. So I did a poll on Twitter as a 24 hour poll.

And I was just, I had sort of a theory on the headphone jack. And I wanted to see how far off I was because I feel like in this tech world, we might be in a little bit of a bubble sometimes about things like headphone jacks, but I tested it. I said, how much does a headphone jack wait into your next smartphone buying decision? I try to give sort of a positive neutral and negative.

Yeah, can I take a quick kit? I haven't seen the, I voted and I saw the results like right when you posted it, but just, yeah. So I feel like your poll, like you said, we're in this bubble, your poll is not going to show what the average consumer thinks. I think we all can agree on that doesn't mean it should.

Something should take away. I would assume that the poll is going to be very pissed off that the headphone jack is gone. It was actually sort of surprising. So the top option of none, I don't care.

I already lost the headphone jack versus it would be a nice bonus, like sort of a meh in the middle versus I 100% need a phone with a jack. The winner was, I don't care. I already lost the jack at 40%. That's interesting.

But then right in the middle at 36% was meh will be a nice bonus. And then pulling up the rear at 24% was I need the headphone jack. So the smallest amount of people need the headphone jack and the most amount of people are over it. My theory at the beginning of this was the headphone jack dying is becoming a meme.

Kind of like, you know how everyone disliked YouTube rewind even if they didn't actually hate the video. It was bad, but people decided to become a meme that this would be the most disliked video we just hopped on board and disliked it. I feel like lately I've sort of observed everyone just gut reaction. Whenever you see a phone that's 1,000 bucks, you have to say it's too expensive.

Whenever you see a phone with no headphone jack, you have to say I'm not buying this because it doesn't have a headphone jack. That's the gut reaction. And I was just curious if that was actually true or not. It seems to me, you're right.

It's not a sample of the world. But I feel like it might actually, it might actually sway it a little bit both ways. In this tech-enthusiastic audience, there's a lot of people who have these specialty needs who are really nerdy or into, you know, creativity or just need a headphone jack for certain applications. You teach it off of your phone, you edit video off your phone, you just, you're an audio file, you have a separate DAC, all these things.

These are people in a small group that are a vocal minority. But the group of people who are really into tech who have gone totally wireless is also present in our audience. We're like, I went wireless five years ago when Apple started to rip the bandaid off and get rid of it in the first place. So I don't know.

I feel like, what do you think? Is the headphone jack sort of overrated at this point? I don't know about overrated. I mean, like, so we definitely, there's a couple things you just touched on.

There's all your files out there. Yeah. We still have LG. We're assuming LG's probably gonna have, yeah, like LG has a DAC.

I know we don't mention it much. I think it's a small portion of people who are really that big of an audio file that they want the DAC. And LG's there for you. And it's nice.

Yeah, that's awesome. So if they take away that headphone jack, they're really gonna piss some very loyal people off. Cause they have very loyal fan days for that. It's almost like a headphone jack with LG is gonna start to become that niche feature that they hang onto that keeps that small market share.

Like what's another similar thing? Cause cameras, everyone loves cameras. I mean, you wanna go really niche at the note 10. It has an S Pen.

The S Pen, sure. So that's another thing like not a lot of people need or want an S Pen today. But it's not like the thing is, we were never in an age where everyone had a stylist and now everyone's getting rid of it. So it's this weird thing.

We're sort of moving on from it, but people who are quote lagging behind always have their reasons. But yeah, one thing I find really interesting with Samsung ditching the headphone jack is we've, even people who have like Bluetooth headphones and are ready for that wireless thing, you hop in a car, might not even be your car, might be an Uber, might be your friend's car. Dave and I'll score it. Always.

I feel like that's the biggest point into where losing headphone jack sucks. I get offered the aux cord in the Uber all the time. I've tweeted it before. Yeah, that's a thing.

But then what if I'm interested in is no 10's not giving you a dongle either. Only USB-C headphones. So like, yeah. Yeah, only USB-C headphones in the box, no dongle included in the box.

I know a lot of guys switching to no headphone jack or at least including that dongle. Yeah, Pixel 3 did at least. So the note is in a sort of an interesting place. And that kind of brings us to the rest of the note because there's a sort of a feeling about the galaxy note that it's less of a power user's phone.

But here's my stance on the note. There's a note 10 and a note 10 plus. And I didn't have enough time to really talk through all of this in the video. This is perfect for the podcast.

Instead of seeing it as a note 10 and a note 10 plus like a normal phone and a big phone, it really, really is to me. The note 10 plus is the next note. And the note 10 is an additional note that's smaller. So it's like a note 10 and a note 10 minus or light.

Yeah, there's a really good Reddit article calling it the note 10 and the note 10 e, which you would hope that the note 10 e would be a bit cheaper. But that's what it feels like. It feels like the. Yeah, I mean, it's a knockdown in price, not by a ton, but it's 950 bucks.

It's a 1080p screen. It's not, it doesn't have expandable storage. It has less RAM and has all these things that are just a little bit knocking it down. But the size is really what they're doing.

Is there, they're offering a note to people who are, I don't know if intimidated is the right word, but they didn't really want that gigantic phone. Yeah, the only problem. I see what that is. There are power users who want that version of a smaller phone too.

So it's really unfortunate that let's give you all the specs in the big one, but if you want the small one, you're going to lose. And you're not just losing one or two things. There's a big difference between the specs I have in the plus and the specs I have in the regular. Yeah, your RAM, which I don't know if you'll notice the difference between eight or 12 gigs, but that is 33% more RAM, right?

That's a good amount of RAM. Your storage can go from 256 to 512, so double your storage on the big one. Expandable, expandable with micro SD. And here's the thing is when you go to one of these Samsung briefings, and I don't really talk about this much in the video, so I guess it's also great for the podcast.

When you go to these briefings, you're sort of given a presentation by Samsung, and it's up to you to parse that information and share it the way you want. So they'll tell you, hey, no headphone jack, but we're doing this because we want to include a larger battery. And I hear that and I'm like, well, Samsung is already just taking the wind out of the no headphone jack articles by saying bigger battery. But to me, this phone has a giant pen in the side of it, all the way down the side.

They could have included a headphone jack and had a smaller battery and that would have been okay. But they sort of choose how to present to you all this information. So I think one of the things was 90 something percent of note users they figured would be okay with that amount of storage because they didn't have that much stuff on their phone. Like half a terabyte was enough, which is probably true.

But for those people who need expandable storage, the Note 10 Plus is the only way to go. It's a tough one. It seems the price difference is only about 150 bucks. For the base of the Note 10 versus 10 Plus.

It seems like a hard sell to go Note 10. Right, because at that smaller phone, for 950 bucks, you also have the S10 Plus sitting right there, which is lower, it's cheaper now. So you're probably gonna be swayed to the cheaper phone. And then you're gonna have S11 come out at probably around the same size.

It is a tough sell. But when I play with it, this is always what happens. Like the one that's like tough to convince you to buy, you actually use it. And it's like a really nice experience.

Like I could actually reach the corner of the screen and it was sort of a comfortable, pocketable size. You have a way bigger screen in a body the size of the S10. So it's a really comfortable phone to use, but yeah, as far as people who are sort of spec peeping and checking what's your game and paper, that is a tough sell. It's an interesting choice.

I think something that's also interesting. You see all these people on, I read read it a lot. Or Android, we read you all the time. We know some of you like us.

We know some of you really don't like us. Hi, I'm Android. Yeah, what's going on? But the S Pen.

Yeah. Do people use the S Pen? And I think we've sent out, or we must have said it in last year's video or something wondering if people use the S Pen. And we got a lot of feedback.

Well, you had a note for a couple of months. I don't know eight for a little bit. I like how much it's painting we're doing. Gross realist, that's about it.

Or when Snapchat was popular, it was fun drawing on things. Drawing on things. I'm a terrible artist, so. But finger painting versus the style is much different.

Much different. Did you get any props for like your quality artwork? No, I was too embarrassed to have said it to anybody. It's hilarious.

OK, yeah, no, I'm not a big S Pen user. For me, it's screen off memos. So I didn't use, I take notes already in Google Keep, but if I wanted to take a quick note or write a phone number down or something quick, I would just take the S Pen out, write it down. And then at the end of like every couple days, I just check Samsung Notes and have my screen off memos and then just transfer them to Google Keep.

Other than that, I don't really draw on things. I mostly sign documents on my Mac or my iPad or something like that. So not a huge one for me. But there are groups of people out there who love that.

Yeah, we got a bunch of emails and some tweets about people who do things like landscaping or plumbing or construction and stuff like that. For them, it's a really easy way to take a picture in real time, pull it up in front of their client and draw on it what they want to show the client. Yeah, that's awesome. So it was really useful for it.

I mean, there's always going to be that small group that's going to cling to it the tightest. But my favorite feature of the Note 10, we've talked about, you know, there's design and there's the specs are all high-end, Snapdragon 55, the RAM, the design, the display is beautiful, but it's only 60 Hertz, only in air quotes. But my favorite feature is, honestly, that or glow color. And I say color, but it's like seven different colors, depending on how you look at it.

Now, this is going to be an impossible phone to shoot a video of. Pretty much, I'm not looking for this. It's going to be to make a video of, because it's just a mirror, it's a reflection city. But wow, that's a crazy look in.

It's really cool. It's one of the coolest features that you'll cover within 10 minutes of good thing to phone. But that's another thing like colors. Phone manufacturers are making some really cool colors.

Except it's going to get covered by case almost immediately. That's something else I need to pull. I need to figure out how many people really put a case on it. I feel like it's a lot higher than I think it is, but.

Yeah, I think it is. But is it clear cases? Are people just putting on it? There are clear cases are becoming a big thing, and you see a lot of phone manufacturers putting clear cases in the box now, because they're making these awesome colors.

I think colors, it's mostly marketing. This looks awesome, this is going to look awesome in a commercial. You're never going to see it when you have it, but it's going to make you think about the phone. Yeah.

All right, so Note 10, I feel like we're going to have a lot of opportunities to talk about it in later episodes, especially after we review it and get it in our hands for longer. But from the hour we played with it, it was pretty sweet. But we all know what's coming. And what's coming up is smartphone season, as I would like to call it, is the beginning of the madness of all these companies dropping their hottest tracks, and by tracking me products for the holiday season.

We get techtovers that we call it. That's where a lot of them end up being. September, we end up getting, we're going to have, how about I just go through the list right now? So coming up for the rest of this year, Note 10, Note 10 plus, iPhone 11.

I guess what they call it. Yeah, or X iPhone XI and iPhone XI, and iPhone XI plus. Let's just call it 11. We're going to get that ROG Phone 2.

We've got to talk about that for a little bit. We're going to get Pixel 4, and probably a Pixel 4 XL. And we're going to have a lot of other stuff in between. Maybe a 1 plus phone, depending on if they keep their schedule up.

So the next V series probably, LG as well. They're usually like right after. Yeah, they kind of tweak their lineup a lot with the beginning of this year, with the V50. But we're going to have a lot of phones coming up for the second half of this year.

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So smartphone season, we got to cover all the phones coming up for the rest of 2019. First of all, we have note 10 and note 10 plus. We started talking about it already, but they're in sort of an interesting place, 950 bucks for the note 10. 1100 bucks for the note 10 plus, but obviously we've seen them now.

We have our impressions. The rest of these are going to be purely based off rumors and speculation. iPhone 11. What have you seen so far?

Let's see. I feel like the only big rumor right now about the 2019 iPhone 11 is the triple camera. Yeah. Pretty much what we're all seeing.

That's what we're all talking about. We're going to get some sort of a new chipset. I guess we'll call it A13 for now. There are rumors about reverse wireless charging, which was also quietly added to the note 10 and 10 plus, but for also charging your AirPods, which will be pretty cool, which will be nice because you don't have AirPods.

Exactly. So you just get a little wireless charging pad with your phone and also having three models of the iPhone. Again, very similar design except for that triple camera, but iPhone 11, 11R and 11Max is what we'll call it. But the triple camera is what people are focused on, no pun intended.

It's exciting. It's cool. It looks pretty bad. I mean, it's different.

So we're used to a super clean app. Everyone hated the double camera at first too. So it looks rough. The funny thing is there are so many other triple cameras right now that look more or less fine.

Like the OnePlus 7 Pro. We look at this little vertical layout. It's fine. The back of our phones all that much.

But then you have Mate 30 Pro. Mate 30 Pro has a little alien look, but it's a little smaller and it's in the center. So yeah, it's fine. We got the Note 10 that just came out.

Triple cameras. It's fine. So this sort of, well Pixel 4 is also going to have it, but this sort of off to the side giant array is a block of like weird, like an also, it's not quite evenly, it's not in the four corners. So what looks weird is that the triangle camera ray might not look that weird except then you just throw this flash right on top of it, which just makes it weird.

That's what makes it weird. It does seem though like the reason it's in a triangle is to be equal distance apart, which I'm sure has something to do with depth sensing, so sure there's a reason behind it. Yeah, there's a whole diagram already as Google continues to intentionally leak parts of the Pixel 4. All the sensors in the front of the Pixel 4, which include, I think, radar was one of them.

Like a whole bunch of strange sensors, but they're intending to do some AR stuff with that sensing, with that front camera array, face unlock, things like that, maybe even gestures with your hand, but yeah, that whole back array will also be probably used a lot for some VR and AR. Yeah, definitely. For sure. So that's pretty much it for 2019 iPhone rumors.

Again, design looking pretty similar, I guess if you don't broke, don't fix it. I did a video on the models that we got of the iPhone, but that doesn't mean we don't have fun talking about 2020 iPhone or 2021 iPhone when they finally start to make a little bit of a bigger change. Yes. My favorite, easily, is ProMotion display.

Yes. Easily. One of them they're going to do either a 90 or I guess they should just go all in and do 120 hertz OLED on the iPhone. God, that would be great.

iPad Pro looks so good. Yeah. That needs to be in a phone. It just needs to.

Yeah. So yeah, there's already that ROG phone too, which will hit in a second that has 120 hertz OLED. So we know it's physically possible and Apple's never a first mover. They have what's called a second mover advantage where they'll work on a, or they'll wait for sort of technologies to mature before they implement them, but I would really like 120 hertz this way in the iPhone.

Please, please. I refresh rates been something that PC gamers have had for a long time and kind of hoarded to themselves. And it's really fun to see it hit the consumer market. Yeah.

And first of all, thank you, Razer, for being the first phone that I know of to throw that out there. Yeah. It was screen made up in the best screen in the world, but it was hard to go back to regular phone after that. If we can, if we can give the iPhone props for moving a headphone jack, if we can give the note props for making phones bigger, we can give that one random sharp Aqua phone props for thinning bezles out.

We can give the Razer phone props for starting a trend of higher fresh rates. And I'm super. I'm here for that. Yeah.

I can't wait till every phone has this. A lot of regular consumers are not going to notice the difference until they have it in their hand. Maybe not even at first, but when they go back to something else, they're going to get it. What is happening?

That's going to get you. And that's why I'm so into the iPad. So like I've been using, as I've said, in sort of tweets and videos of the iPad pro with 120 hertz display all the time as a main computer. And at the same time, my OnePlus 7 Pro has my main phone with a 90 hertz display.

So in the back of my head, as I'm testing the Note 10, I'm like, this is a great phone. You know, it has Snapdragon 55. I know it's got 12 gigs of RAM. I know it's 1440p.

It looks great, but it just feels a little bit stuttery and maybe it's just my eye because you guys know me. I look at 24 FPS video and I think it looks choppy compared to 30. Sorry, Brandon. Yeah.

I mean, we've accidentally had the camera rolling at 24. It pops up on the top down. He's like, well, what is this? What's going on?

Why is it 24? Turn it off. So I love me some higher fresh rate, but that's, yeah, that's easily the most exciting thing for me with a new iPhone. Yeah.

It's like a 2020 iPhone and the 2021 speaking of what do you call it? Second hand. Second mover advantage. Second mover advantage.

Possibly rumors of a folding iPhone? Yeah. Is that what we want? I don't know.

The funny thing is is people have said while it's a possibility, it seems more likely that it's a folding iPad that comes up first, which I think is pretty cool. The thing about Apple is Apple has incredibly massive and diverse as they are as a company. They're an iPhone company. Like they sell the iPhone to the world and everything else sort of comes after that.

And that's just a simple way of saying like going with a folding phone, like radically changing the iPhone design like that. I feel like they would have to either make it a new line of product or like bring it down from the iPad or something like that. So there could be an iPhone and then also a folding phone that they call something else, the folding app. You don't think it would have an iPhone name like a Galaxy Fold or whatever, like it's a separate thing, but I feel like yeah, they're, they're going to keep that slab going as long as they can.

Oh, yeah. I don't think I'll ever get rid of the regular iPhone. It's iconic. Yeah.

The phone wouldn't be the only iPhone. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.

No, I do miss the Galaxy Fold and I think folding phones have a place in our future in some time as that tech gets better. But we've, we saw that, that Royal Flex by that thing is a mess. Yeah. I don't know if 2021 is when it's going to come out because Apple is probably not going to come out with it until someone has it down and then they're going to perfect it.

Yeah. That's just going to happen with Apple. Um, why don't we do Pixel 4? Yeah.

I know Pixel 4 has a, oh man, it's playing with my emotions right now, these rumors about the Pixel 4. So I don't know if you've seen the latest batch of rumors. It's even hard because I wrote some of this last night and I've already changed some of it this morning. It's all over the place.

Yeah. So, okay, the latest that I've seen. So Pixel 4 we've seen is going to have, as Google starts to like tease this on their own, it's going to have the corner triple cameras. Yeah.

I thought it was double cameras. Oh, yeah. So possibly dual cameras. I believe it's only dual cameras.

So possibly dual cameras and then a third sort of depth sensor and then a flash, but that same design that they've shared. Um, it's going to have a bit of a forehead, it's not going to have a notch, but it's going to have some bezel going on. Uh, and it's going to have, uh, of course, stock Android, it's going to have the squeeze. It's going to be similar to the Pixel 3 and 3 XL.

But then on top of that, the rumor that's, you know, kind of eating away at me right now that I don't think is true, but I really, I already have an answer for you. I know you're going to say something. Go on. The 90 Hertz display.

Never mind. Some answers for you. Really. You're not going to like that.

Okay. Well, let me just say for a second, the specs I am, I'm like, okay with, like the Pixel has not been a spec King for a while. It's got, uh, you know, not that much RAM four gigs in the past. They said they're going to be six gigs now.

You know, still not a ton. Um, usually you can get away with that if it's really well optimized, like say the iPhone is, but Pixel sort of had memory issues. So that's, you know, a little bit middle of the road, but 90 Hertz OLED display, I would absolutely love, but the rumor is also slightly smaller batteries, 2,800 battery. I was surprised with those.

It's also a big gap between. Yeah. 700 for the XL. Yeah.

It's that much bigger and it's almost a thousand more. I mean, it's, I mean, when you look at the gap between note 10 and note 10 plus, it's also what is it? A 900 milliamp hour difference. 3,500 to 4,300.

So 800 milliamp hour difference. But yeah, at 2,800 is a small battery in 2019. And if you put a 90 Hertz display on that smaller phone and that small battery, I'm already concerned. Yeah.

So, uh, yeah, Pixel, you know, it'll have wireless charging. It'll maybe be water resistant. It'll probably have pretty good speakers. 90 Hertz display will be great, but yeah, I'm, you know, sort of middle of the road about that spec sheet, but then.

Well, real quick, before we get to attachment, we're going to talk about cameras. We're seeing double cameras for the first time, which is exciting, like, right? We've only had single cameras, but hey, you're excited about this much. It seems like it's going to be a regular and a telephoto, which I'm not as excited about.

Yeah. I don't see why you would. There's, there's so little benefit to a telephoto lens, especially on phone, like the pixel computational photography is their forte. They, to be fair, they had this feature that they were trying, uh, I forgot what it was called, but it was supposed to use digital zoom and then sort of use a gyroscope to measure your hands to, to improve sharpness on digital zoom.

Um, so in theory, a two X telephoto or three X or something could help with that, but obviously the ultra wide would be the way to go. I'll take a wide any day. Yeah. That's, uh, that's a little weird to me that they wouldn't do that.

Yeah. Portrait mode on the single camera on the three is so good already. Also really good. I don't need a telephoto that's going to help me with the depth sensing or anything like that.

I'd much rather have a wide. I don't want to, I don't want to rant on it for too long because then you might do the ultra wide, but I figure when it does come out, you'll hear from me here for me. Yeah. But, uh, what are you talking about this?

All right. So let's go to a couple days ago. Yeah. Everyone's freaking out.

Here's what red tried to do. Couldn't do. And now we're going to throw it on a camera that that has a better camera already. Not true.

Not just a miss, miss quote, I guess it is DSLR software enhancements. Oh, it's going to be a promo. Basically. Oh, okay.

Well, that's, that was way off. Very, very different. I was originally reading something along lines of there will be an attachment that you can buy to give it better quality. I think that's what everyone was reading.

That is not what's happening. Does not seem like it. I mean, I can't completely confirm that, but let me just check. I mean, this doesn't shock me.

We've seen a temp set modules on phones before Motorola might be the only one I've actually just seen do it somewhat successfully, and they don't even have that great of a camera module. I actually did a pretty harsh review on there. That's a bad mode a little while ago. But yeah, red has talked about doing one, hasn't done one.

Yeah, so this isn't something I was crossing my fingers for. Yeah. It was exciting. And then, so it seems like Stephen Hall from nine to five Google, he said source reach out to me and said I was not talking about physical hardware attachment.

I was talking about a DSLR software feature for the camera app. Oh, okay. Yeah. Big difference.

All right. So you know what that sort of brings pixel four down into phone. I'm going to carry because I love the camera, but also get very disappointed with all the time because of specs. Pretty much.

Well, that sort of leaves us with, I think the last big one. Yeah. ROG Phone 2. This is kind of like the dark horse one, which shouldn't seem like a dark horse one when you purely just read the specs out because this is like dream phone category specs.

That might be the most common thing people tweeted at me when the spec sheet came out that dude, they made your dream phone. Yeah. And I didn't, you know, my dream phone was a little more nuanced. There are some design things I would have wanted, but holy hell, the spec sheet is insane.

So let's just run down it real quick because it's a real phone. It's not rumors anymore. This is going to be coming out. I'm going to be reviewing it.

This is they're going to make a matte black version. I mean, geez, what are you doing to me? So it's an Android phone similar design to the ROG Phone 1. It's going to have, what's the size of the screen?

I forgot. So 6.6 inch, 1080p, 120 Hertz, AMOLED display. That's right there. That's already pretty sick.

I don't think anyone else is anywhere near that. Snapchat going to be 85 plus. So a little bit, a little bit faster than the 855, but you're going to have their GP performance. 12 gigs of RAM, up to half a terabyte of UFS 3.0 storage, which is the super fast storage we've seen in a couple of your phones like the OnePlus 7 Pro and the Galaxy Fold.

Love that. 6,000 milliamp hour battery. This is the one that a lot of people are like, what's going on here? You can fit a headphone jack and a 6,000 milliamp hour battery.

It is a little bit chunky, but that's fine. This is a headphone jack? It has a headphone jack. This phone is top to bottom.

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