What the fuck is the internet? Hi everyone, welcome to the Early Life Podcast, Internet Podcast hosted by NothingNurds, I am, Wanyhor Sam. And I am Snooch to the Nooch, the other host Paul. I wanted to get it in before Lee got there.
Yes, so tonight we are joined by the Luscious, the beautiful, the wonderful, the amazing Sonia, or some buns, if you're a fan of the internet, as Sami put it. The fuck is he in it? The what? Thepuporship.com, it used to be an actual website as well.
And we joined by Lee. Lee. He'll be readied. Hi, Sugans.
I thought you were going to do the whole clip, Commander Thing and say, I am the Clits Commander. I've got no questions. I'll just clip that and it'll be in there for other, so... There's only a Niffer ever.
It's never going away, Lee. Unless I delete it. You are on the Niffer ever, Lee. Yes, yeah.
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Mike watched just spoke to me while I was doing that. Sorry. Did I say fuck? Fuck.
Motherfucker. Motherfucker. Hey! For any of them, any people that might have just joined us or just checked us out later on, we are doing GNS on the Bob Strike Buck, not really.
When me and Sammy decided to do this one, because we thought, oh, we'll do a nice, easy one. One, we could go in because we had a heavy episode last week with the John Calley, which took a lot to it. So we thought, well, Jim, son of Bob, we can't think. Sonja was number one on our list because she was kind of a long-term 14-year-old.
Kevin Smith got the type of girl. The surprising aspect was how excited Lee got in the chat last week. And when I don't know who all the shit eaters. You all the shit eaters.
You all the shit. You all the ones who are bums. And they were like, yes, yes. I was like, okay, so Lee wants to be on this episode.
So, yeah. With Sonja, sorry. I'm sorry. I've been on episodes where we've done Kevin Smith Lee.
Why did you want to be on this episode so badly? I mean, I didn't even ask to be honest. I got excited and you were like, oh, would you like to come on? I was like, fuck yeah.
I don't think I would have needed to watch this film. I asked it to do it just to make sure what it is. It's just ingrained in me brain. I don't know when I saw it or why it's stuck with this.
It's such a stupid film, but it's perfect as a stupid film. Like, everything works somehow. Yeah, sexy as it. My wife, the answer is wrong.
So, yes. Well, I'm lucky. My husband loves it. Yeah.
Well, I just think that he's only just watched it for the first time of day, which was surprising. I really expected him to have seen it before. I feel like one of those films everyone must have seen before. Yeah, you feel like they have to.
Before we get into the movie, as always, I'll have the taglines. Golly, hold on. Hollywood had it coming. The dead bitches.
Yeah, this one. There's only three. This one. Scooping the money, scooping the monkey.
What the fuck? And trust them. I don't know what to do. It was money and nobody ended up getting lucky.
I was like, I know, I know, it should be my job. The amount that I've read out now, I should be able to do really good tag lines. And the last one, strike back. Okay.
Just strike back. Yeah, yeah. Straight into the point. The point, yes.
I love this movie. I remember, I got down my million. I remember the first time watching it was, wasn't on the pictures, because I think this did get some release. I watched it on VCD.
Now, anyone of us are on the edge. Yes, it's not DVD. It's not a blurrier. It's not 4K.
VCD was for the nerds that like to pirate movies, where it used to be able to copy a movie under an audio disc and use that as a player. But the disc size wasn't big enough to play the whole movie. So you used to have it in two parts. So you used to have disc one and disc two.
And the only used to work on certain DVD players that you used to get from Asda and you had to use the internet to kind of put a chord into brick. So you can choose your tickets. Or on your PC or laptop. I'm the only way you could view these type of movies.
They used to buy a same car boot sale. Sounds like buying like the 70s, 80s and stuff. Like, oh, I had that on beat and looks. It wasn't all of it.
Now, there's a funny story where they watch this movie, because it's kind of like an embarrassing story as well. Oh, no, it's a poll story. Everyone's sit back. No, no, it's not bad.
It's not bad. I don't think. I was watching it with one of my friends, Jenna, like a college friend, who we went together like romantically. We never were more like just friends, friends.
And we're sitting on the couch and to... You felt the cup. I was just like, oh, it's like just like tired watching it. I put me on right to go round it.
And what I thought was I sure that I shouldn't pull. That's not me sure that. I was like, oh, so I got embarrassed and ran home. So you caught the feel?
I caught the feel by accident. And left out there. Yeah, I tried. I thought she was dry.
But I left her. Wow. Did you only get third base? No, that actually was a team of all stories.
That's not rocketing sitting in fist. around a rock this night. Yeah, I've like from my college days I adored like say the Kevin Smith movies and I know more rats was meant to be the breakout big movie but that flopped this feels like the movie that kind of made it for Kevin. Mm.
Cause yeah, we got dog I think I've got before this. Yeah, don't come before this. I always thought Dogma was a big breakout film. Like just in my world.
I feel like Dogma is like the cold classic isn't it like you expected to have been bigger than it was. You probably right. Yeah, you probably like I like the little reference to Dogma in this right at the beginning where he's talking about the song from the time and he's like, Oh, I've got that self. I'm like referring to God as a woman.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a nice little touch.
I'm sorry. I said, there's all the connections in like Susanne was in the end of Molrat's when the woman said that story is coming soon. We actually got the story. We did.
We did. And this is I've got a few bits that I've read about this film today and it just it jogged my memory. I have been with Kevin Smith podcast and journey for God knows how long it starts with Jane Silent Bob get old and Hollywood Babylon still one of my favorites. I still go back and listen to all that sort of that even though the news is like some of it you wouldn't touch now like you would be like, Oh, let's just stay away from that.
But Jane Silent Bob get old Kevin tells the story of making this movie. Right. And how bad it was. This is Jason Muse at Rockwell.
His worst. Yeah, this is Rockwell for Jason Muse. He was a fucking nightmare to work with on this film. He got into a fistfight with Scott Mosher.
Yeah, over a scene. So what he was what he how he saw it was Kevin told me couldn't do drugs, but he didn't tell him he couldn't drink. Right. So we substituted one for the other.
Okay. One made him not work properly. One made him incredibly angry and aggressive. Yeah.
And that's when he got into a fistfight with Scott Mosher. And Kevin actually on the way to set one day through him out of his car, moving car. Because he was he was that done with him. He was so intoxicated.
He can't actually remember doing this film. Generally can't remember any doing any part of this film. This was the one that after it. And Kevin basically this is where he started stealing from Kevin.
Right. He stole from Kevin so many times before. But when he started stealing from Harley, right, and take his cut Harley, Harley's in this film. And she's a little baby Bob.
And when she started stealing her money, that's how Kevin was looking at it before Harley. It was just that was Kevin. And it's fine. You can take from me.
But when it's Harley's involved. Yeah. And that was the final straw that Kevin said, if you don't get into rehab and get help, we're done. Yeah.
He couldn't he couldn't allow him to be around the house anymore. And the stories are horrific. And Jason's like, Jay will sit in front of him while he's telling them and take it like it can't be easy to hear. No, all this stuff was that you probably can't really remember.
It's good that he's willing to listen though. But he's willing to hate. Like, he's not denying it. And the fact that him and Kevin are still so close shows like how strong that I was going to say friendship.
It's beyond a friendship, isn't it? Like, it's like a brother family. Yeah. I mean, Jason doesn't come from the greatest upbringing.
And when they first met, it was Brian Johnson and Walt Flanagan. He was actually more Brian Johnson's friend than he was anything else. He was this little kid who used to just tag along. And Kevin just saw something in him and it was like, I just, I need to always beat around him.
He needs, he doesn't need save him. He just needs help and guidance. He just walking the shopping stuff and I'm suddenly not off. I'm suddenly that was the whole interaction of Jason Hughes and Kevin Smith's friendship.
But it's so she and that this has happened as well. Because I know, like, like I said, Dogma's probably the more polished movie, but as a performance, this is Jason Hughes's best performance. Yeah, yeah, I think so. And he's a powerhouse in this movie.
He has got and he's got time and he's got like, I know, it got the hilarious thing about dogmas, he got scared to learn all the lines for everyone's parts because of all the movement. This one, he kind of like, I don't even know, he's like, no, I felt like a more generic and like realistic type of performance. But this is just fucking hilarious. Like all we're through, like the jokes, like, we'll talk before we went online, we're not gonna use any of the cooking.
Some might be okay. There's very few courts we could actually get away with and knock it in offline. And this is actually a cleaner version of what like there's a lot of delete scenes for this as well, which is just horrific. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. You know what though, like, some of my favorite scenes from this movie, I didn't realize until the end, I've actually the outtakes. The best bits are the outtakes, like the the amount of ad libya singing the outtakes as well, like having people like Will Ferrell and the must have struggled so much to get those scenes without that Creason, I would have been dead.
Should Nelson, should not be mad at the time, just like, he would say the most offensive things this defines see what reactions they want him to say, let's one call the drunk. I'm scared for life from the extended scooby doo scene. Right. Yeah.
It was over and there's just this giant lipstick. You know, you know, Scooby Doo. It's Mark Hamill is in it. Mark Hamill and Kerry Fisher had no idea.
This is the first time Kerry Fisher and I'll come in a movie together since Star Wars, you didn't know it until they went to the premiere and they're like, what are you doing here? He's a very cool the one that was like, I remember seeing them in Scream 3. So I was expecting that scene in this movie. DVD.
And I was like, where was the screen three scene? I googled it. And I was like, it's not even in this film. It's in Scream 3, because West Craven, but West Craven Scream 3 has Kerry Fisher in it.
So you can see where like all the characters are like overlapping. Yeah, we'll do this too. My heart dropped a little bit when West came on the screen because I totally forgot. Yeah.
Three three references was in there and you got one sent was there because I think it's hilarious. I'm busy. Cheese has been. That's one of my most love out loud moments with West Craven then as well.
It's like, oh, the statistics. We fucking love this monkey. We're just seeing him on screen. I was like, oh, what's he's right there?
I couldn't get over watching this back as well. It's the amount of cameos like the people that they get in this. Yeah. There's a lot of fear.
And this is why I think Kevin Smith is so loved within the industry that you can pull these people on now. Like the Jason Beaks and Amanda Beak, it's just fucking hilarious. I fucking. Then they say, I've been like Eliza to score and Ali Lam, I love her in there as well.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think the name weren't that big then, but still coming up with a corner.
I was just like, fuck me. There was a name because Kevin couldn't say our last name. Right. So we called out Eliza just a duck shoot.
And that's why she was referred to because you mispronounced it first and she went and go and correct him and said, you know what? And that was why she was called throughout the whole thing. And I thought she was so many. I've never wanted to be a delivery man more in my life.
Yeah. Honestly, same. Like Eliza was like growing up. You remember the Buffy episode, but like she was my girl crush.
Like, in this, she's just like, it took coffee like 30 minutes and he's like, it's a face from Buffy. Yeah. Yes. I love it.
Yeah. Absolutely. The only one thing that made me cringe a little bit too deep and I possibly didn't even bat an eyelace back was gentle. Right.
Her lack of action ability. I know. You know why she was in there? Just because I was like, I want to put my wife in a film.
Like, I only do that. Do that. It's funny. Too much.
It's fine. It's fine. And Kevin originally, so for all we've got this amazing cast and there's a lot of people that Kevin actually wanted instead of. And Shannon Elizabeth, the this or go over Shannon.
Yeah. And massively, Kevin, she wasn't the original pick. It was Heather Graham. Right.
OK. But it worked. I think it was still about the same effect, but she went to read the script. She just couldn't understand how she would have fallen in love with Jay.
And just went now about, which I really, really harsh, but true. Because he's really, he's not, he's not. He's the manager of the court. He's a very mature, quiet, he is.
But I was with the channel is with brought vision to the character. The reason why she wears glasses for is because she's called justice. And justice is blind. There's like little touches like that.
Like, and Kevin loved the fact that she got involved because he's not used to female leads kind of getting involved with the creative process, where he's working the likes of Shandorji, who just likes to be told. Point A, point A, B, yeah. And how much is the wardrobe that I'm getting at the end of this? But yeah, there's a few people that he wanted to be.
Something's being a little dead. I don't know. Oh, my gosh. I know.
Yeah. So sad. And the Scooby-Doo bit. Yes.
And he wanted Matthew LeLar in front of Prince Junior. No, who be the? Yeah, that would have been good. I like that it's my glucose.
Yeah. It was Riley from Bobby. I wonder if I was like, I wonder if I was like, I wonder if I was like, I think I was. I recognize Stephanie as well, but I don't know who I'm from.
Is it Jimmy Fox? Not Jimmy King. Oh, I don't know. Some mannerisms about that looked like Jimmy King.
Because Jimmy King, yeah. I've recognized about it. I don't know where from. Like she's been in things from maybe in that sort of Buffy.
I don't know. There was a lot of things going on at the time, but like George Carlin as well. Yeah, I know. That was just, I said, legendary.
And just like that whole segment is just so well done and so funny. But you kind of like after the Sony people not with us in this movie as well, but you can imagine them how much funny must have had on set doing those stupid things, like pretending to give a truck as blowjobs for rides and stuff like that. But then I flicked as well. I know I flicked as weird, but from this movie as well, we got the more lines I flicked as the bombing fans.
Honestly, like quote that so much. And the day after watching it, I was like, what the fuck is Fanon's? No, it's like you got there. I found a trailer for it.
I was like, this looks horrendous. It looks so bad. It's really not such a good cast. I was like, what the fuck is that leap shot?
It's always so a movie of its time and you have to put yourself back in that mindset of when it came out. I love Fanon's. And Fanon's like a mall. It's like a mall.
It's just a full on that scene as well with the Ben Affleck scene. Like, I was the bomb in Fendoms because Kevin Smith just kept getting it. Yeah. It's an outtake.
He just can't get through it without like Sniggering. He's just like, so many quotes in this. And I forget about that. I used to use all the time and Ben Affleck was my favourite one.
You know, fictional character. Fictional characters. It's the hand movement. That's.
I think the Catholic doesn't get as much credit as it does. I know it's one of your small part, but it leads into the whole story. And he kind of, when they break the fourth wall, as well, like who would, like when he's talking to Kevin, who would want to write these characters or these jokes? Surely there weren't more.
God say the word more and Kevin's this one. But then when the break the fourth wall and say who would be able to watch these type of movies and all the camera at the same time. Yeah. Every moment.
They do the same thing in the same with Matt Damon as well. And he's like, oh, a friend of favour. And then the boss is like, yeah, Kevin. How do you like the apples?
Affleck's like, he's like, either beginning. I can't really character name. But I didn't even know. He plays himself later on in the movie as well.
Yeah. Completely got that. But then when I'm a curries name, the my name is old guy. Jason Lane.
Jason Lane. Yeah, he shows up at the end as a different character. Until today, I didn't realize that. Yeah.
Jason Amy and Morat. Yeah, Brody and... What's his name from Jason Amy? Banke.
Banke. Banke. Banke. Banke.
Banke Edwards was Jason Amy. So Brody Bruce, he's the one that... The chocolate pretzel, which thing. Yeah.
Just like a chocolate pretzel. But again, one of the funniest things I could play, the music. Banke. Banke.
I don't get it. I don't get it. What is this? I don't get it.
I'm not going to take a stick in my head. I'm not going to take a stick in my head. But you can see Jason Lane. He's like broken while he's doing that.
But yeah, I love the fact that the stash has been used as well. But it's just got... Then it's got Brody written across the top of it. But yeah.
Because they said Brody was kind of the hero in Morat. Well, Banke was kind of like... Oh, he's dead. He's not a bad guy.
He's just annoying. He's a bit of busy and angry in opinion. He's basically me. I am the Banke.
I am the traitor. I am the traitor. You're a fucking traitor. I love stealing.
I think I really need to watch. Cheers Naomi. Cheers Naomi again. I always remember the comic book panel where the black guy at the end, the one who's got the leather jacket on, he's probably really opinionated and really shouting in the screaming.
But then all of a sudden he's like, absolutely. He's a bit of a sweetheart. What a new bian. I'm going to fuck out of here.
I need to see it again. Yeah. Like I said, there's a lot of people that was meant to be in this. Seth Green was considered for playing Jason Biggs as part.
Which again, would have worked. Would have been absolutely fine. We wouldn't have had that great line. And there was a few people that he did asked to be in and I'm really glad that they're not.
Not one of them because I wouldn't have minded either way. It was Quentin Tarantino. It's not the movie. He said he wanted to be a good friend of his and he wanted to be a part of it.
Couldn't for whatever reason. And Harvey. Not in a feat. No, no feat.
No, no feat. No, no feat. We can't get around it. This movie is Miramax.
Yeah. It's pretty broad up all the way through the movie as well. Unfortunately, but hey. It's a moment in time.
You can't blame one person's transgressions for a whole and they're just for everyone else that worked on the thing as well. There is a really dark moment in this, which just flies all the people's heads until now. Which is where we'll catch it. Chris Rockwood is like, oh, there's lots of white women waiting to meet trailer hoping for a part in the movie.
And it's like, yeah, I think it's going to be a pretty famous movie as well. Yeah. You know, I didn't even catch that late. I think I watched it day.
Is that like an in joke? Maybe. But they made the joke a bit later on. Like, like, I said, it's a joke to his character.
And then he said, hey, ladies, do I come to my trailer and audition for a part in this one? I've got a big part for you. Oh, even Bill Cosby's mentioned in this movie. Yeah.
Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think Tracy Morgan, we mentioned before. Oh, my God, talking about.
I was like IDs. The union IDs. Yeah. Oh, good.
But you know who wanted him, he wanted to play a cop knocker. And he actually baked for this role and for reshoots on a certain very popular sci-fi TV program and a movie that he was doing, he couldn't make it. He would have been cocknocker was David Koffney. Oh, really, really wanted to do this.
It was so different, but he was doing ex-files and evolution. Right. Yeah. So he had reshoots on that.
And that's when he was like, I'll just mark Hamill. It's such a good sport in this movie. I feel like this whole film could just be Kevin Smith going, I want to have a late save of battle with the camel. Let's create a really lovely.
But he did try to call comic book. Like, he wanted to bring back the years before scene and he gets to do it in front of Mark Hamill. That's the dream, right? Yeah.
But it is. What was it like Darth Bong? He's not like Jason Mews, but he turns a bong into a lightsaber. I'm trying to find my Blintman in Chronic comics today and I can't find them.
They're not very good. They're not good. No, but it's the idea of just having them. Like I own them.
It's in the clicks card. It wasn't very good either. Well, that's okay. But when I was trying to find this, you know why the card just kept coming up.
Also, we have clicks references in there as well. And then there's two references we don't even know that we're going to be getting, but we do end up getting the movie. Yeah. Yeah.
I'm going to get to explore. It's funny when the kids go into the shop and he's like, yeah, he's like, you're the bitch. And he's like, well, that's how I would have. I would have viewed it.
I'm going to get to restrain another. It's a close to when then to come back and it's the first kid and Ethan Smooley. That's close to three. It's a close to two.
No, no, it's an update. It's an update. It's an reboot. I haven't seen reboot, you know, it's so good.
I'm really not really thinking about it. Paul here says, but it's so good. I'm scared to watch it. I love everything else.
But if you're a Kevin Smith fan, you're going to get every reference and you're just going to, that's probably what you're going to be there for. More is the references? No, I'm not going to shouldn't it's, but it is pretty much seen by scene. What we've just seen in, except from one part where the Gortro comic con and Ben Affleck is in it and he has the speech.
It's about two to three minutes speech and it's worth it for the movie. It's probably the most honest and heartbreaking thing because he talks at, I don't even think Kevin wrote it. I think Ben wrote because it was about his friendship to Kevin, how they've been disappeared for years and how they got back together. And it was like, ah, it's for that, but literally even saying for saying all the jokes, the same in reboot.
And it's kind of like, oh, the reboot and chin set above. We've got to kill the ball. It's again. It's like, oh, dude, no.
Yeah, me trying Elizabeth's in it and, and he's Harley Quinn Smith's in it playing a millennium, millennia Falcon. Is that on you? Yeah. Well, I just know it's like some of the, like, meta references in this as well, though, because like, Jason Muse asks Jason Biggs about Shannon Elizabeth, despite the fact that she's in the field, man, is his love interest.
And, um, Matt Damon and Ben Affleck talking about Dogma, which James Allen Bobbin, but they're talking about it as if it's a movie. Like, it's like, it's like five head. Like, just like, glory my mind, but the references and some of the stuff. I think that's why the song gets so clever at times as well.
I think a lot of people dismiss it because it is a stone of like, at times, but the soul humor in this as well is just so well done. Like, one of my funniest bits and it's such just like nothing even big. It's just like they're doing a report about James Allen Bob going to Hollywood and how to keep an eye on it. And you've gotten in the background of the news, but just whistling.
And it's like, and then that's not the jokes in all to get past like, no one knows. All you have to do is whistle. It's kind of like that kind of like comedy elements to this. I don't think it does get the credit card.
I think I don't think Kevin gets the credit for it. I think, oh, he just is digging for jokes and that's all he should be. But it's much more than that. He really is.
Did anyone see and it's the first time I've ever ever noticed it. And I don't know if it's because I was really like, my eyes were glued to this bit is when they're in the studio running around. Anyone see Daredevil? Yes.
An actual costume Daredevil is there. It's a damn. And I have never ever noticed that it's Ben Affleck's costume Daredevil. I didn't expect it to do as well.
I was like, what the fuck's that? And I had to go back and I was like, oh my god, it is. And he's in the middle of nowhere. Just appears and just falls over everything.
And I might be wrong here, but is this Will Ferrell's first big movie that he did? I don't know. He's in Austin Powers too. Oh, god yeah.
He just doesn't die. My legs is broken. I'm actually in a lot of pain. I actually do think so.
I saw this film shortly after I came out and I bought it on DVD from HIV on music. I can't remember which one of the main music shows that I was coming to. I remember Will Ferrell being in it and thinking, oh, it's Will Ferrell. I definitely knew who he was.
But I don't know if he'd been in much potentially things like old school at the time. That might came up the year before or something. If you're an SNL fan, maybe. I mean, you want to learn from SNL-Dias because that's literally where you start.
Your starting point is there. You find it's 2002. And then it's Austin Powers. Because you're actually the first one, not the second one.
Sorry, my apologies. I forgot about that. All school was 2003. Knight of the Rock's B.
Zoolander, all school, Elf. He's not even a credit in his thingy. It's 2001, isn't it? It's not even a credit in his filmography.
Didn't trust him. Yeah, so it goes to the Rock's B nighty year. It's Superstar 1989, Austin Powers 1989. Zoolander 2001, All School 2003, Elf 2003.
It completely misses. I wonder why. Well, he's never been in any more of Kevin's films. That's very unusual because normally if you have a bit part, it gets you in different roles or different things.
So I don't know. If he's about being in it. I feel like Kevin would have said something. We would have heard a story.
When he's done Toto, Wilf as well. Yeah. I don't know if it's because it's only class as a cameo. Even though he plays like a big fan.
I'm going to say he's never a while. I'm just reading through stuff on the internet. I do love just all the build for all sports class. Just like when he comes in, he's like, why live jurisdiction?
I'm in charge here. It's like, why would you hand it over to the fucking wildlife people? It's like that it's clearly a child. And they're just like, okay.
This is my home all likes partner. Just for the fact he loves the car. I don't like the car as much. But it's like this is a political storm.
I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding. You've got to be careful with this one.
There's so much that you'd want to save a card. There's a bit as well. Like in the outtakes, I honestly cannot recommend watching the outtakes enough. They are so funny.
But at the end of the film, when I'm banking, says regardless of what you may have heard, I do not sleep with guys, Wilfowl's response is different every time. And each one absolutely kills us. But the one that the left in the film is, all right, play it cool, hotshot. And I quote that all the time.
Just in general conversation, I was like, all right, play it cool, hotshot. And then I'm getting a little bit literally from this film. That's how good the quotes are. They're not even saying anything.
The cut is in for all as well, where he gets the call to go to check on the scene of the crime at the place where he got stole. Or he's in the bathroom at the wildlife place. And he's got like a wildlife magazine. He's just sitting on the toilet.
And he's like, oh, yeah, you dirty mule. This is so many like jolks in this as well. That are being cut. It's like Sean, when they're talking about the vat.
Oh, my gosh. How are you doing? That scene there when oh, got you. So I'm that scene when he's when they're talking with each other.
You could clearly see Kevin was ready to break. Yeah. Yeah, that he had him literally like in the palm of his hand. It didn't matter what he was going to see.
Kevin was going to laugh. What's your damage, boy? One of saying is if you saw a really friendly cheap, that was really beautiful and was really inviting. What do you fuck a sheet?
I did that right? Great. All the times as well. Sometimes Sean Williams Scott was hello.
Kevin just broke. That's another one of my sister's and what's the reason I love the animals. It's so clever and so well done. Another I know what it's going to be caught in bits here is the one with the security guard.
He was in the Beverly Hills, but he really liked the movie. When he's like, it's got no, it's like, no, no, I don't want to hold it. What is gay? Okay.
I thought came off you just walk around you watching one. Okay. That sounds like when you come, I want you to say that's a lovely tea, but it's just so out there and bizarre. It's like doesn't fit in any type of movie, but it works so well in this movie as well.
Yeah. Sorry. I'm just reading some of the course. It's like, it's just follow them.
Like what what Lisa at the beginning is like literally how I felt. I was like, do I even need to watch this again? I'm sure these quarters in me like that they've never left. Like it's so portable.
He's a cool second. No, so there is things that kind of leave your mind. You forget about them. Nice.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I forgot how hilarious Chris Rock was in this movie.
Oh my God. We kind of see any of his lines live on it. But his reactions with Jimmy Kennedy from like Scream. And I don't know how Chris Rock keeps this for you as well.
He's a straight man, like beat down. Just doesn't have like respite. There's no boogers in your coffee. So it's when he brings in the second company just slaps it out of his hand like he killed us.
Honestly, up until that moment. Oh my God. And then when he started speaking, I was like, Oh my God, I have totally forgot all of this. But also as though is what do you think draws us so much to heaven?
And especially this movie. Kevin has seven or. Yeah. I think the view excuse universe.
Yeah. Yeah. I think it's a whole question. I think it draws us to heaven.
Naturally is because he's one of the most honest people in Hollywood. I don't think he knows bullshit and reacts to stuff like a fan. And he is one of us living on stream. I think that's why we call the movies.
The movies are our childhood. I think if people watched it now with brand new eyes, like the millennial or whatever generation we are now. They'll probably think, Oh, because you can people that don't like friends and stuff. Oh, they find friends offensive by the humor.
So fuck, they would be fucked with this to be honest with you. It was very much of the time when we were there. We had mates that were like knocked to the level, but like Jay, we had friends that were like sound involved, like the just quiet just going down and going around. We knew these characters personally.
And I think that's where we kind of relate because these were characters that Kevin grew up with just a little bit. So, and that universe who the fuck wouldn't want to be in that universe. That's it. Like I love these films, all of them because they're and it's going to sound like really like gatekeeping.
I don't mean it to sound that way, but I love that it's like you don't have to have seen any other other films to enjoy it, but having that knowledge makes you feel like you're inside like an inside joke, which means you feel like you're part of something bigger, which I love. I love the end when they're all coming out the movie and you see like the chase and enemy characters and you see the characters from, you know, more wrapped in it's like clerks. Yeah, I'm going to go on this movie. You talk about meta that moment there when the walking out the cinema and you've got the actress from Jason Eme and Dogma was talking about Dogma and she's near me.
We're always like, oh, give us any film, not something like that. Chasing me would never work as a movie. Like what I said about you. Yeah, so it's like it's enjoyable because it's like it's still in a humor.
It's part of humor. It's half art. But at the same time, it's like very smart, very sophisticated. And again, it just makes you feel like you're part of a bigger inside joke and you get this sort of like crazy right.
I got that reference. I thought you did that. It makes you feel smart for getting it. Wasn't this meant to be the final hurrah for characters as well?
This was supposed to be like Kevin What in the wind. Yeah, because podcast and becoming his life. Thanks to Ricky Jevias. Ricky Jevias made it OK for podcasting to be more of a mainstream thing and more of a and you could basically do this full time.
And that's what Kevin did. Kevin started up a smart castle, which was a location where everyone who if you wanted to come and he was going to do his there and he kind of took it on the road. And it wasn't until he did use to do one with Scott Mojo, which is absolutely some of the funniest shit you've ever ever heard them to just sit and talk and at each other is brilliant. But then it started he started rolling out something and it started to become more than what he anticipated and he started pitching a tusk and he started creating a process of tusk starts in one of these podcasts and Scott's like, I think you've got something here and he was like, I actually do as well.
And it's like, but each episode, they can add in more more layers on and that's when obviously Red State then comes about and then this and he started then creep back into movies again. How do we did a few, he did the one with Bruce Willis didn't mean I think that kind of like tipped him out of the edge. He did that one that was when he decided he was never going to direct a movie that he hadn't wrote. Yeah, you want to do the rest of it.
Did he do reds? No, I like reds. I like reds. It was got out.
I was a 50 Morgan and Sean Williams Scott. Yeah, because that was the one with Bruce Willis really upset him because on the set loads of fans will walk past Bruce Willis and go, yeah, die hard and clear and Bruce Willis to smell them and Kevin went to that was being curly when you know what I hit the die hard ones the most of Oh, yeah, and then the press to it is if you watch any of the press for reds day. Oh, it's not Wednesday and cold about it's awful. He is a dick.
He doesn't want to be there. He's horrible to the interview is which breaks Kevin because I guess it's Kevin's name attached to it. And it's an awkward situation and then Kevin obviously some time passes and the wounds of healed and then Kevin goes on to explain his side of the story and then the phone call happens where Bruce Willis ends up bringing him acting like nothing happened. But it was quite healing for him like Kevin must have Kevin kind of needed it even though he spent a lot of time trying to get over it.
This is again, while I love Kevin Smith, there's no BS. He'll tell anyone anything. If you piss them off, he'll tell it as well. When you see he's like an even more Kevin Smith the live show and see the stories.