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This is the end with the only person that actually says their name on the show We have with us Castle. Hey, that'd be me and we are in heffey's beautiful recording studio and heffey is my real name You know I would like to point out before we go much further that today we have a new keep well It's not really a new keyboard. It's a new used keyboard It's a new use this one's why I had SERPs spelled in it so most of the keys work this time. Hey, they all work I'd like to clarify they all work just don't pop back up in 30 seconds.
I want to push the M It's like and then it just slowly starts resurfacing Nothing but the finest no tight gear at heavy studios. Okay, Lurch is not here. He's often Colorado running the marathon I believe so we have with us today beaker because it's not the only one that uses my actual name say hello beaker Hello, I'm actually fine going by Tim But I prefer beaker just because it's easier. You're not gonna prefer the nickname.
I gave you I will not be going by Tim The Slob Whisper ever You can call me that you know, I love it though Nobody else is around when I'm the big spoon when you're never the big spoon anyway, I'm born to be the big spoon my job just ask any I don't know if it's actually my job But one thing that I like to do before we record is I will listen to our last episode I'm just to make sure we've got everything covered make sure we haven't made any loose ends Anyway, if you've been following us, which you should cuz we're awesome I'm kind of scared to listen to the old episodes. I'm afraid I mean I'm talking to somebody after this Do an episode I'm afraid I'm gonna listen to myself. I'm sure I'm only on the listens No, our listeners we love our listeners If you've been following what castle and Kenny on radio run and have been going back and forth You will know that apparently castles weakness is chains. You know what I've conquered that weakness with a well-known corset Excellent.
So we mentioned in one of our first our first two podcasts something about chains and castle said that that would be a story for a later Day well today is that later day so we will hear without further ado the chain story Change story. Have I never told you guys a chain story? No, we know the chain. We were there I know but I mean I know the chain story.
I saw the aftermath of the chain story Yeah, you were there I was there. I know the chain story No, but our listeners are wonderful multiple listeners do not know the chain story now If if you listen to the radio Ronin many many many many episodes ago last season They told the chain story but for our show and any listeners we have their new I will share the chain story and how I awesome we've altered over the chain to avoid other destruction Well, that's not quite how it went anyway. We're at the Zion building. This has been back in August We just finished a ghost hunt with Changa in the crew and most everybody kind of left for the night There's still a handful of a listeners who were still there But for the most part everybody had wandered off a lot of times It was public investigations the investigators kind of stick around a little bit after the investigation and do just a tiny bit more investigating kind of Start locking up turn off.
Well, let's usually start out off But we turn them on make sure everybody's out try out lights Well, me I think it was Changa and a few others were outside There's like a loading dock and we were out there sitting on the loading dock and there's route there Spunari and Tim Conyers can run another bill Someone scream and someone scream and and so me and Changa are like sweet We thought there's like somebody screaming inside the building like like a ghost screaming or something So like yes, we're grabbing our equipment though running back into the building and as we're running into building There's nothing. No, it's behind the building outside. So behind the design building. There's an actual bank Design's bank nonetheless and they had chains out there about waist height between concrete pillars to kind of guide traffic foot traffic Whatnot and one of these chains happened to be unpainted the others were painted nice and yellow and this one was unpainted and as we turn around as we came around the corner of the building there was a Guy laying on sidewalk and like his girlfriend or whatnot was a over him and screaming that he needed help So me chunk and a few others started kind of sprinting over there and for an old fatball guy I'm actually pretty quick.
Well, you should be quicker. I got better and older But anyway, so we started sprinting over there and I I kind of poured it on a little bit I can move for an old fat guy and as I was moving I saw a gap between the chains I thought that's where I need to go is in that gap Well, I'm being honest to me that gap was actually the unpainted chain and so as I'm running full sprint just as fast as I can Like six inches before I hit it. I saw the unpainted chain just as it took me across the midsection That's all your thoughts like oh down. It was more like oh shit Like my guts Something else like castle can't have kids anymore.
I've been funnier I had the chain been sexy so hard. There's a very good possibility castle with my kids anymore In fact at the aftermath of this night. I had to go home and make sure that people have fun next two days Anyway, so I took this chain in the midsection at a full sprint and it just I Full on clothesline just took me right down and yeah Everybody kind of attended to the hurt guy and I kind of crawled off into a make a corner sidewalk holding my guts and praying for death That'll teach you to be a hero. No kidding the next day I had a bruise that was probably about the size of a two liter bottle as far as just the area covered across my midsection And it was dark eggplant purple It was all kinds of fun But I've learned from that experience Kenny and now I always wear a well-blown corset and work on my core training So the fight is on buddy the fight is on I was reading an article just barely about Kim Kardashian She wears one of those you know waist trainers is that what you do?
No dude? 1800 well bon corset. I was I'm getting excited to see these sexy hips popping out of castle. Okay.
Hold on check this out Just kidding he showed nothing for you listeners or did I you'll never know you can only imagine he showed nothing He has nothing quiet little spoon quiet little spoon So what do we have on that you had to for it a day to end? Um well last I was wanna say last week for the record by What Kenny I just I love you man. Sorry. Go ahead.
What's this thing with Kenny? I'm lost Kenny's awesome Kenny's awesome Kenny There's not that Kenny that you just want to pick on him because he's so pick honorable is he yeah? It's called a man crash really is that what it is kind of like when you're in the first grade and the girls So you got kudy's does Kenny Kenny have kudy's? No, I said my man crash for Tim is a slob whisper Yeah, is there a story behind that one too the nickname?
Yeah, there is but I'm not gonna share it on the air I'll share after and I started it out to audience maybe in a couple years. I'll share that story. It's too soon It's too soon to worry too early We gotta let some alright beaker it is we got it. We gotta let some time pass there.
Okay, so last episode We I read off some questions that one of our listeners wanted to hear the answers to and so let's go actually brought a new question to one Top of those questions. So anyway, we've got questions. All right I will read the questions and I say anybody the post anybody post me read questions as long as you don't go into the weeds I said we're using talking all the time anyway, so yeah, what difference does it mean? You know the worst part is my kids got the same gene Yeah, I'm just I'm going shut up Why won't you shut up?
That's called karma go play backyard shut up Lock in the doors or using the garage got to get in the house All right Okay, first question we had was can ghost move locations And I'm reading this question verbatim for example a well-documented haunted house in my neighborhood was torn down And one of the neighbors thinks they go so may have moved into their house Is this likely slash common and I'm going to actually defer this question to Tim the slop whisperer and then we can all pitch in on it? I'm not sure that is I just don't answer unless you called you by whatever you want. Oh, that's okay. We like big spoon.
Yes big spoon Yeah, everyone quiet and I see says big spoon We'll sit here If you care about your listeners you will call him big spoon, okay, no that will never happen you're not following the No, there's got to be something funny in there I don't know it just started and it's not gonna stop. No, I'm always the big spoon. No anyway, so can ghost move location Yes, they can actually ghosts can be attached to people objects or places so say it's weird attaches itself to say Say a picture of something that they liked And that picture moves from one house to another it can follow that picture So yes spirits can move from one location to another so it is possible that when the house was torn down It decided to move on to the house. It was nearby.
Well to be fair if my house was torn down I go with my neighbors. Hey guys. I got a crash for a little bit Yeah, they're like creepy house across the street. There's a bandit for a long time fact I didn't notice the command is it still bandit or something moving to it?
Where that one creepy house across the street that like weed six feet high it's still there Do they move into it or is it still bandit my house right now? No across the street from my house? Oh my good This house we're in across the street. Huh if we're to face to the nor yeah, yeah, that's not abandoned people live there They've always lived there.
That's never been abandoned. They don't know they're freaking long. Okay, or let me take that back I'm sorry. They're weeds.
Oh, you're freaking way. You're our listeners. You know what you mow your damn weeds I took a baylor to those things I said, you know what's sad as I almost did it for him. Holy crap if you're you know the point is back on topic if you're a ghost I don't know would you go hang out there?
I wouldn't be like man maybe to haunt him and say mow your weeds Well If there is a ghost in your home they do tend to like to hang out in the same spot We've mentioned this a little bit before but Emmett my ghost he used to hang out in the basement or outside because I used to have two female ghosts that they didn't get along So they kind of drew territories and he's still even though they're gone He still kind of tends to hang out more in the basement and outside in other places in my experience ghost had to be kind of territorial I know you just said that but I mean if they Like a closet they tend to stay near that closet, but they don't usually wander the whole house I mean they're so exceptions to that but generally they kind of can find themselves to a small location I mean it may be between a couple rooms sometimes it may be the whole house the things remember with ghosts is they are the spirits Are departed people and just like people they have varying levels of intelligence. They have free will they have all that And so yeah, they can move in fact It's one thing I know we've mentioned it before on some of our other podcasts But we tell people at the end of the night on a podcast to make sure they say a prayer or let ghosts know They can't follow him home ghosts can very much follow people from location or home to home in fact a story I'm gonna share don't everybody like me You have a story I do tell I like stories anyway Our friend brandy P who we've talked about before she can see and hear spirits and whatnot and she's confirmed They're a few in my house and I've seen some activity and I've seen evidence of those But it was probably three or four months ago. I've got three little girls ages five eight and ten actually almost eleven But all of a sudden they started talking about seeing a man in my house, you know, they were freaking out There's a ghost we've seen a man in our house wasn't the milk man was it? No, man Anyway, they start talking about seeing a man and my wife and she's very much a skeptic, but she finally your wife Weird, she's a good woman But she got to a point where she said did one of your friends follow you home because the girls keep talking about seeing this man And so I can I talked to brandy and she checked out the situation and lo and behold a spirit had followed me home from work For whatever reason when I was out in about a somebody's house it decided that I looked interesting for whatever reason and followed me home I had another medium friend of mine also named brandy Come over to my house to help me get rid of the spirit That's also cruel when I say like that.
We help that spirit cross over. That's how we got rid of it. We weren't like Being mean to it. Anyway, long story short That spirit basically told her what I decided to essentially had seen me while I was at work I decided to tag along and it made my house it house and so that happens to be honest with you all the time I mean I've got June that followed me from sales And to be honest with you I would venture to yes that probably somebody listening has had something similar like that happened to them It doesn't don't even realize that it's happened.
I had a straight dog follow me homeless. That was about it. That your ex girlfriend? Oh, that was harsh, but I like Okay, next question And again, I'm reading these verbatim stuff.
I'm not a robot It's because I'm a verbatim and he's a robot. No, but I can do the robot. Hey, thank you music You guys just have to stop That was awesome I actually try to cut it made yours off of this people are burning there You know what's worse? I've been trying to start this music career thing.
I guess you guys say no have it No, not at all close. Maybe maybe rap is my thing. No, no, it is so not. Oh, that was bad.
Okay, question two Try some country if you want please don't You're good at rap. Yeah, I might sell on the rap Question two country fans. We love you, but you're fueling the problem All right on the show you mentioned two type of entities spirits of those who passed on and spirits that never had bodies and are Slash evil. How do you tell the difference between the two and can it do evil entities try to mimic being ghost that passed on?
Yeah, yes, I'm gonna build that question to you Yeah We're so boring she had a real attention to her job on the pan and we boring you No, actually I had to try looking Facebook last 15 minutes, but you should have an right phone. What do you got there? No, I play this fashion game all my land. Oh, yeah, I got this back Wow, that's like a step up from farmville and these this is why these podcasts take so long to do my phones on the floor I repented sorry, okay How do you tell the difference between the two?
Why did you feel me this question? I can feel the difference when I get on to one of these the evil entities I feel a repelling kind like you take those two magnets and put them together I know some people have just said they feel really uncomfortable around them. I feel nothing That's all about your small penis Last time I know Anyway moving on and a lot of times you can tell by their actions if it's if it's a spirit that's just passed It's just hanging out because it doesn't want to cross over they usually keep to themselves If for some reason they want to get your attention, you know, they may try but the evil ones the ones that did not have a body They're usually trying to mess with you. They're trying to get in your head They're the ones that are going to be doing a lot of stuff and usually when people call us and say hey We think our house is haunted.
It kind of tells us It's probably something level and it's probably one of these evil ones because they're the ones that try to mess with your head People who have passed are generally Like the answer they keep to themselves there's there can be activity, but it's generally very minor activity You know, you may see something on occasion. You may hear something on occasion Generally if it's something that's evil or negative and I'm gonna actually subdivide your question because you say mention two types technically I believe there's three Some human spirits that have passed can actually be malevolent And then there's those that have never had bodies which are definitely malevolent and there's varying levels and types of those spirits But usually when you're seeing a lot of activity or you're getting a lot of scary activity I eat things are waking up in the middle of the night things are trying to out-not frighten you Those are generally the telltale signs of a negative or evil spirit and some people will talk about you know getting scratched or pinched And that that also would be one of these negative entities now that being said the second part Your question is do these evil ones ever try and mimic other spirits and that would be absolutely especially To for instance with a Ouija A lot of times those spirits will pretend to be something else something positive something looking for help They usually kind of mold themselves to whether they think you're gonna tug your heartstrings So speak to get you to give them permission or open the door for them to actually for lack of a word invade your life Right and they will usually come across as children Or if there are susceptible children in the home that they think that they can kind of target They will appear to children as their friends a lot of times another example and there's a book called the demonologist by Gerald Brittle It's about the career of Ed and the rain Warren and in the book. There's one of the stories I can't remember the name of the family in the book But there's a girl who's screwing around with an Ouija board and I'd like to let us pronounce that anyway She's screwing around with it Basically the spirit is on the board pretended to be a teenage boy that had passed away and basically kind of approached her from a love interest Perspective, you know, she's a can't girl. He's this poor deceased teenage boy who's just looking for a friend And that was kind of that spirits foot in the door so to speak to really causes havoc in their lives That would make for a really really good romance movie.
He's on the other side. I can't wait for her to get there I'm making a rom-com actually What was that terrible zombie movie? Yeah, the weird zombie that's alive. Yeah, I'm like good.
See you have me here this this time I'm actually the movie buff of the group, so okay good. Tell us about that So I'm watching listening to the last podcast hearing you guys are you over movies? I'm like no you're both wrong, but I can't interject so I'm never wrong That's what you said for a few times that I am no that warmby's I watched like all 15 minutes about that point I was calling suicide hotline inside the shut it off It was a funny why you even hit play on that show. It was a zombie.
It said zombie movie I thought it's gotta be good. Oh my land to I can name a lot of zombie movies that are not good Yeah, I've tried that actually rather watch warm bodies over that bread bit one was it? World War Z. No, that was horrible.
It was a terrible movie zombie like get out get out and face out Get out it was terrible. Yeah, it was with me. So I'm saying that was an awful man. It wasn't bad.
No, it was yeah It wasn't bad. It was like horrible. Horrific. It was alright ransed dumb show moving on I think it's worse Are we moving on?
Question three Based on the assumption that there's something to move on to like heaven in your opinion are go stuck between our own And the afterlife by choice or as a state some type of limbo or purgatory This one is going to be I think really subjective based on your religious views. However, I think I'm right castle so I'm just scratching my eye it just My personal belief I believe very strongly in free agency and so my opinion is that when people pass they have their frequency To move on or not and I think some choose to move on some don't and I think the reasons for not moving on can be several Hang on just one second half a and we'll get right there right to you I think maybe that they could be afraid they could simply just not know and be confused They might feel like they've got unfinished business you hear that a lot That's a little cliché, but they might feel like they have some unfinished business I think there's probably a whole myriad of reasons but heavy to make it clear I obviously don't believe the same things that some of these fine people in this room believe which is fine But I hear you guys talk a lot about crossing over and I don't know what you're referring to it And that's actually kind of what the basics I can say let's let's what is this crossing over that you talk about? Let's start there cuz that's actually kind of what I was gonna go after Danke and she was saying It's kind of what our research has shown and let me preface this by saying Nothing is set in stone. I mean I've gotten theories and put things together and then we'll learn to find something new that kind of shifts What we know and understand and that's kind of what paranormal investigation is all about It's not all about just going out and catching eppies and slapping each other high five and trying to get cool pictures It's trying to figure out what's going on and as you start you get to a point where you think you got to figure it out Then you'll get a new variable thrown in there and you kind of got to reevaluate now that being said My understanding and want to say my I think Dan and Didn't a slob whisper would agree with me on this one You look over in the corner.
I'm talking to you. Oh, I was confused for a second there. I love that That name is the best. No, not at all.
Anyway As I understand it as our research has shown basically what happens is when you die when you pass away And it's interesting because if you go read a lot of near-death experience books it kind of backs this up When you die, there's a bright light and that bright light if you walk through that bright light It basically takes you on to and I'm using my air quotation fingers here heaven I like to refer to and I realize that everybody's got different release systems to bear with me here's I talk about this But if you go to the Bible and when Christ was up on the cross he's talking to the thieves and he says in this day You should be with me in paradise. I'm paraphrasing I don't know exactly how I said that but he basically tells you see that they're gonna be a through in paradise And my belief is that when you walk through this bright white light it takes you to that place called paradise Now at the same time and I'm LDS wearing Utah anybody outside Utah LDS is the Mormon church And we use the Bible and we also use the Book of Mormon now if you turn to Mosiah Which is a book in the Book of Mormon chapter 2 verse 38 that scripture basically talks about when you die Some people feel they are kind of believe the term is awakened to their awful guilt if they live kind of a questionable life If they've made some poor decisions and so when they see that light they kind of realize that there may be a reckoning on the other side And so they choose not to go through that they choose to stay here Oh, it's like I know what it is like you broke curfew and you know dad's gonna be mad You're like yeah, maybe I'll stay out for another 20 minutes because you can be pissed anyway, right? It's exactly what it's like it's like when you sneak out of the house and you come home at 3 a.m And you see the living room lights on you see your mom or dad patient like oh damn I'm gonna interject here really quick. There's also People that don't believe they believe that when you die That's just the end there's nothing and so you know someone passes and they're one of these people that believe that there's nothing And they think okay, you know I can see that my body's there people are crying over me.
I'm here There's the light if I go in that light, I'm gonna go away and everything's gonna see so I'll be less than interesting theory Right, so I'm not gonna go through that light. I'm gonna stay here because if I'm here I'm here and ultimately it comes down to Is the answer earlier it comes down to free choice? I'm sure there's people who when they die see that light no full well with that light is But kind of go you know what I'm good. I'll wait and so you know There's those who are have unfinished business is the term is where they're seeking vengeance or I mean There's any number of reasons that spirit can choose not to cross right and an interesting thing I like to watch ID TV and it's you know It's pretty much you know detective shows and murder mysteries and there is one particular one where this lady was talking it and this girl had Disappeared the you know they couldn't find her body.
They thought they knew where it was but they couldn't get You know the search warrants to go search the house and this woman I don't remember how this woman was related to this missing girl that she knew where this girl was and she'd go to this property and she would you know She couldn't go on the property, but she would just look at this property and and she said you know She'd gone like three or four times and she said suddenly she saw the spirit of that girl standing there and pointing to a certain Spot on the ground anyway the whole you know legal process went forward and they were finally able to get a search warrant And she said you know I know this sounds really weird But I want you to look in this spot because you know I saw this blah blah blah and sure enough That's where they found the body and this was you know documented with police records and So you know she had an unfinished business. Maybe she was the murder Anyway long as short that's kind of what the whole crossing over thing is basically when you die There's an opportunity to go through that white light and that white light is not always there when you die It's there for a set time period and then it goes away What were the door closes the door closes? Oh man. Yeah be quick.
Okay. Gotta be quick. I'm gonna catch the next train theories I have heard and I want to emphasize theories. I have heard I can either confirm nor deny I've never seen this white light and I hope it's many years before I do You heard a lot in your death experiences it But the number that I have been told By mediums and those who can see the light is that you have roughly 80 hours after I've heard two ways I've heard either 80 hours after you die or 80 hours after your final memorial service The light closes if you didn't take it and then what happens?
Then you're stuck your found spirit now. No There's a button whether there's button. Okay listen for the butt. You cut me off a big butt big butt I'm a nice big butt round butt How's their cigarette butt?
How big are you talking? Tell me the butt and I'll tell you what it is. Okay, so The butt on this is basically there are some people Most mediums who have had any amount of training can actually physically open the light And there's places you can go where the light is usually prevalent So for instance if you die and you miss your light if you go to a hospital If you're in a home somewhere where people are passing away or how recently passed away I'm gonna slip in that guy's light. Haha took your light Exactly, so there's a light hanging a bird to the person who it belongs to.
Oh man. That's awful. No, I don't think it works I think you air quotations Heaven paradise. Yeah, paradise.
Yeah, I mean everybody listening might have there could be dozens of words And interestingly enough if you and by say you I'm talking to our listeners if you go to a library and start looking at books under This experience is it talks a lot about these there. There's a very common thread in all of those And that's kind of what this is all about and again besides funeral homes hospitals places where people are dying or have died Or their body is at those places or places where you can usually find the light But there are people who actually can open it and that's one way that we've actually been able to solve some problems in some homes Is it there's a spirit? They're kind of running amok so to speak and if you get in there Somebody who can do that you can sometimes coax and throw in then wall out of the problem Solve because that spirit has moved on to bigger and better so to speak So the moral of the story is if you die the light is good. Yeah, I tell people all the time We'll go into the light I tell people all the time when you die there's gonna be a big light run for it I'm actually planning on running away from the light and I'm gonna move to Castle's house and know that a lot of them I like that I'm gonna show him how being the big spin really is oh, I'm gonna so exercise you The treadmill fired up are you saying I'm fat kind of Microphones between us I might be able to make it out the door before he gets over here for those who don't know Tim the slob was very large man, which is why he's about me being large He's called me fat again here.
No, it's not what I mean. You're like big strong I'm not gonna wear a large to I'm not gonna wear a tie-start seen a tears roll down his face when this is a tearful That is based on the alphabet you'll see the tears when I'm standing over your body laughing. They're gonna be mine All right, so question four this is actually a very interesting question it kind of goes along with the other one in a way Do ghosts realize they are dead or do you encounter some that think they're physically alive like you and me? I saw that movie.
We've all seen that movie No, who was it that said did we talk about that last time in someone's life? It was lurch, huh? Yeah, so I've never seen that you just ruined the movie for me spoiler alert Bruce was dead. Sorry That movie's been out for like 20 years of years.
I know shame on you Well, and then there's is it others with Nicole Kidman. Yeah, that one was the same thing That was kind of a silly one thing you know, we like talked about the question But we're not actually answer the question so maybe should ramble on for another Speaker do it. We've actually we actually on Super Bowl Sunday. We actually had someone call us to their house We went and checked it out and the spirit there actually didn't realize he was dead.
He'd been dead for probably 10 15 years Yeah From what we gathered he actually died of a drug overdose and he thought he was still alive and the commotion that he was causing the people's House, but it's actually kind of funny. Yeah, he's like oh man, this the best hive ever More or less like that's what happened he actually The noise and the commotion he's making the house was he was actually searching the house for food Remember back in February when I guess it was earlier February I was watching the Super Bowl Remember we just got like pounded like 15 cases come out at the same time and it's like oh this one seemed really minor and so Tim and Brandy P came down it just mean him and her went over It's one just to kind of go in and just fix the problems we could do with some of the more serious ones we had So we went in it was a problem that really fixing Did you guys talk to him and be like dude you're dead man. I'm sorry break this to you How do I break this to you? Yeah, you can't remember we tell him he'd passed or not.
I can't remember if we have it I believe my exact words when he said he had a munchies and he had eat I'm like you don't have to eat dude. You're dead and you know there's other cases of this too most spirits realize they're dead but there are some do not and I Know so real common thread among those who have been involved in drugs For instance, and I know I keep referring to all these public cuts that we've been out of the pod problems I promise we do investigations outside those These are probably the ones that the listeners are most familiar with if they've been on investigations But if you go back to the radio relevant episode with the science building there were two homeless guys who had broken to the building Shot up with drugs in the bathroom and basically passed away and they had him on the echo box and one of the drug He's realized he was dead and the other one didn't realize he was dead Making noise Anyway, but the one didn't realize he's dead and the other was trying to commit some hey dude You're dead. Let's go and the other one was just like hey, I need help call a doctor because he didn't realize he was dead And let me go back to question About crossing over Okay, wait, I got a scenario like he's like pick at the doctor And then there's a doctor who doesn't think he's dead and he's like I can't do CPR my hands are going right through you Huh? Like an endless loop man It's worse by ever Back to question three now we talked about crossing over and this just reminded me of part of that That's we talked about we didn't talk about the opposite side And I know everybody's got different beliefs and different outlooks on how life works if you look into say Christian scripture It talks a lot about kind of an endless hell a lot of times when Spirits die they get stuck in these loops.
You'll hear about residual hauntings We're gonna go through the same motions over and over and over or in that case in the Zines building where the guy's like hey Help help give me some help. You know he's been dead for years but he's still asking for help he still thinks he's dead he's in this endless loop and I'm not saying this is hell per se, but that's a type of endless hell while you're waiting there You haven't crossed over you're kind of in a state of hell because you can't you're just in this endless loop of Pormant for lack of better work. So I have a question. I'm gonna blow your mind you guys ready for this Oh, what if we're all dead right now, we're all dead That's actually a theory I've heard before and then the podcast is like someone out there is like the one and only listener is that medium that can hear us Pretty intense.
I've actually had some of your mind around that I've had someone say you know what if this life is actually we've already lived this we've already we've already passed on We're all dead and we're just remembering it now You know I've actually floated that through myself in fact I didn't know other people so that three but I was talking to one of our other investigators and brought that very theory is what If we've already done what we've done and at this point we're just remembering and reliving so we can see anyway Lots of what if I can hear the clicks of people We've gone crazy folks. No, he was a horror. He was always crazy. Our leadership has gone down to one That will be me later after this is me to make sure it's uploaded Alright question number five Generally scratches bites foul smells things being thrown, etc.
Associated with evil entities Conspirits of those who passed on also do these types of things or are they governed by different rules? It depends on their intent, you know the negative entities are just they're trying to mess with you they're trying to scare you The the good ones we call them type ones in our group the ones that are spirits that just haven't passed they they can do the same thing They might just be trying to get your attention. They're kind of called type twos, which are also human spirits But they're usually more malevolent in purpose Those can exhibit a lot of these same things I mean you don't usually get the terrible smells but you can get scratches you can get bites things of that nature The question also mentions can things be thrown there was a home down in South Utah County I think everybody here except for have a's been to that house with me But the first time I went in that house and this house was very active there's Three spirits in the house to her residual hauntings mean they're kind of stuck in that endless time loop That's the first I kick the ends my commitment the sound anyway But there's one spirit in the house is a very intelligent haunt which means she's very where I'm responding She's very where she's dead. She's very where everything she's doing and she's playful She's very she's not malevolent at all just to kind of give you guys an idea of some of the activity they've had They've seen the spirit numerous times.
I've actually I caught it on photographs I've got an EVP's of the spirit in fact the first time I went to this home I was sitting up equipment and I asked an investigator who's with me I said where should I put this motion sensor and as I asked that question there's a wooden block up on the shelf It was actually tossed towards me Which I thought was kind of cool and later that night as asking questions and I got caught an EVP I said were you the one who threw that wooden block at me like an EVP back that goes yes now? I would play that EVP this would be a prime time to play that EVP But the EVP was so quiet that like I talked about last time unless you got headphones. It's just it's it's not quality for a podcast I do believe I've got it uploaded on our website. It's gonna be one of the earlier VPs you'll actually hear me say Did you lock at me and you're gonna hear yes, so if you really want to hear it bad hop on your computer It's on there and I promise I promise my heart.
Hope that I hope to see the light The next episode we will have a bunch of EVPs when I think we're doing free VPs Anyway, but that particular ghost would throw things the daughter one night was laying in bed and said they called this particular spirit Millie she was millie I'm tired can you turn off the lights and that lights and radio boom went off kind of freak grout just a little bit but Good spirits or human spirits can actually do these things too. They just don't usually do them So I'm looking at the question and I think We need to go into another direction at this point It says can the spirits of those who have passed on also do these types of things not just the not just the nice spirits that stayed here Let me show you more story real quick and actually you were there for the story At my house, and this is just this is probably what a week ago Yes, the end is at my house and there is a cardboard box a little cardboard box that my Apple watch came in But I love my Apple watch that Android watches came out a long time It's not school's map watch anyway the box map watch came in with sitting on the banister and I looked at it I mean it was just there a solid as can be it wasn't going anywhere it was right in the middle of banister and a Few minutes later. I'm talking to you like over and I just go boop it literally got knocked off the banister And you know, there's no ill intent behind it, but I mean I physically watched it get knocked off It wasn't on the edge. It wasn't super cariously off it went As far as your other question goes as far as spirits have passed They are governed I think by different rules, and I don't know that I would even use the word rule Spirits have passed on to enemies my air quotations here paradise who've crossed over I think they are engaged in doing other things more important things I think they can do all these things and probably even considerably more But I don't think they usually do because I think they are busy doing other things And I want to mention spirits that have passed on they can come back and forth at will But when they're here, they usually don't need to do anything.
They're just just checking Checking on what? Family friends and to be honest with you when you start talking about spirits that passed on it's really hard to talk about What it is they're doing or why they're doing it without really getting into religion I mean one person I believe they're floating around on clouds playing harps Other people may believe they're preparing the way for the second coming Yeah, there's a thousand different things that we do depending on religious beliefs Right, so based on based on some things that in our group I can give you two examples One is and I actually did not go on this investigation castle did but it was a A woman who had what we call a type three and a type three is a very malevolent negative Entity that has never had a body and in this home was an infant And the infant had a crossed over spirit as a protector with it at all times Yes, actually I've actually run into a number of occasions where I've seen that happen where there's some kind of Again, we call it type three, which is a negative entity never had a body and to be honest with you real quick Bells very I mean you've got type three's that are like ambival quality which are Making people levitate off the floor involvement piece of kind of thing and you've got just real but not anyone use the word Really but you've got we'll see type three's which just almost like almost like little ponds for the bigger right? We jokingly call some of them garden gnomes because they're evil They hate us but they're not doing stuff like Amityville But they're still and I'm gonna make people angry when I say this but there's still be Monica nature in that they've never had a body And these range from elementals to and there's a thousand names some more goofy, you know sprites Elementals things of that nature anyway, but I've actually run into that quite a bit where we've seen a negative entity like that and some kind of Protectors spirit right and it was a crossover spirit and then another example is my my daughter's my husband's daughter actually She always felt like there was something with her and we had grandi P I'm checking out and turns out it's a crossover spirit that kind of hangs out with her My other example of a crossover spirit is oftentimes when we when we talk to these spirits And it's it's the type one you know one that's just passed and it's just hanging out and has not crossed for some reason And we'll talk to them and you know explain to them what happens when they cross over and they're hesitant you're scared they're nervous And sometimes just telling them hey, you know once you've crossed over You know we get that you really like this family and you you know want to check them out and make sure they're safe Once you've crossed over you can come back and forth it will and sometimes that's all it's taken for them to say okay You know I'll go so those are those are my examples of you know I'm probably even just a simple term to describe maybe what somebody does after the crossovers they essentially become And it's religious terms to take it with as you will but like a guardian angel per se Like I said I run into several several instances where there's been a really negative spirit in the house kind of attacking the family And at the same time there's usually protect her spirit. They're either protecting an infant or an individual a gal And we're actually at this house just Saturday There's a gal who we've been working with their family for a time and just she's definitely ill It's probably more time in the hospital than out of the hospital actually got attacked in the hospital at one point But as we got brandy p involved and got in there we actually found that there was two spirits There was the type three that was really affecting the scales health and there's a protectors spirit They're trying to basically protect her and keep it away Now I have an experience I was in Spain This has been maybe back in 2007 and I'll try to keep the story relatively short because storytelling is castles forte We were in this room and you put that right away So I was in Spain and we stayed in this really cool hotel It was in one of these you know the froms travel guide and it was a reformed an injury and as soon as I walked in I just thought oh, I mean it was like downtown Grand Central Station for all sorts of bad stuff and it was so bad and I don't do this very often I've done this probably twice in my life But I actually said a prayer and said oh you know send an angel to protect me because this is this is way creepy And I've had a creepy night didn't sleep in the morning We got in the car and we're driving out of Barcelona and I kept looking in the backseat and My husband is my ex husband, you know kept looking at the backseat like what are you looking at?
There's just some of us being judged by him. You miss being judged by him. Yes family barbecue He's used to sit in the corner and just sign a judge us all me especially We don't miss that from right here. I was silently to do now.
You don't miss that at all Anyway, but I could feel the the protectors spirit. I would you guys stop it Story your story. Yeah You know Anyway, but it was the protectors spirit and as soon as we got outside of the Barcelona city limits She went away. I could tell it was female So they're crossed over spirits are busy doing stuff They don't really hang around just to hang out and scratch and throw things at you All right now this is actually I'm kind of excited for this next question This is actually a very interesting question and kind of moves into some other theories Do passive slash non-threatening entities ever switch and start causing problems if so is this common and other certain things that cause this to happen Tim I'm gonna have you filled this question because you've been on enough investigations with me where we've kind of dealt with that I'm gonna go.
Yes. Actually. I'm gonna refer to a story that a friend of mine told me he had a painting that was given to his wife and As soon as the painting came in their home They had several things start happening like they said their dresser jorking flying out of the the dresser itself Their dogs wouldn't go to certain areas of the room or the house actually or they just sit in the like corner barking at nothing And they got this like really creepy vibe from the painting and they decided to actually send the painting down to His wife's aunt's house apparently that's where the painting was originally supposed to go I guess when the person that owned the painting died they wanted to go to this particular person's house they Ended up at someone else's house. They had experiences and activity.
They went to my friend's house They had activity and as soon as I got to where the original place I was supposed to have gone just everything kind of stopped happening So in my opinion It's just like whoever owned the painting originally might have been attached to it and they were just causing havoc because it wasn't where they wanted it to be and that you know that would be a like a Say spirit that is not crossed that is usually hung up on a physical object Which is not often the case but it can be the case and you know if it's not where it wants to be or doing what it wants to be doing It can it can start acting up the other thing that we've run into and I know that beakers been with me on several cases Like this I think Jan has as well is a oftentimes if there's a human spirit in a home And if there happens to be one of those negative type three entities that's never had a body a lot of times those spirits can't For lack of a word dominate Those human spirits and kind of force them to do their bidding Basically they do it through threats coercion that type of thing and so a spirit that would normally be benign and good can actually start kind of working as an agent for these Negative entities through my bitch now You know tell you to pretty much you know and I'll say it's kind of funny You say that that's almost exactly how it works for instance a family tree down in Santa Quinn We've investigated that a couple times and there's some really really bad juju there that restaurant. There's actually two is the food You know it's actually not bad I can't I've got excellent scones. Oh my gosh. There's just make a podcast about their scones.
We can do that Yeah, we can do a podcast in the restaurant eating the scones It is something else. No, no, no, no for like an hour and a half. You just here's eating scones Or we should just we should have we should just get their food and have it. Oh, hey so much.
I put their phone on silence Girl tell them that we're freaking busy. It's Mrs. Castle. That would be Mrs.
Castle. Hey, Mrs. Castle Hey, I need her help. They're on the phone say you guys are all freaking crazy That's why I hung up.
Oh She's gonna listen to these no I think I just kick my microphone out. No, you didn't. No, you're done. You are done.
All right. Can you hear me now? These are headphones headphones T. A.
R. D. Tired It would be great if you might did come up with that. We should unplug it, huh?
Anyway, sorry back to the family tree and this goes into another theory You know and keep in mind these theories are ones that there's some evidence to support it But I would like more before I'm willing to fully sign on to this theory at the family tree There are two portals if you will kind of entryways And there's a type three spirit there that kind of guards and keeps those open and several the spirits that are there at the family tree Go from being just standard run of the mill human spirits to being kind of these dominated bitch spirits if you will these type twos depending on kind of the whim of The spirit that's there. Yeah, just to clarify really quick if you're taking notes So you can understand our jargon a type one and then this isn't paranormal wide This is this is our little group a type one is a spirit who's passed on that's just kind of chilling the type two is That same kind of spirit, but that has been That's term of novellent who has become You know one of the minions of the type three's and the type three are the malevolent ones that have never had a body You could call them demonic you can call them no lentils you can call them You know sprites, you know all these names that we've talked about before Anyway, so type one type two type three. Sorry castle. Go ahead.
Anyway, I had Randy P down there And I got talking to that type three that was in the basement that basically keeps these portals open And that one is actually relatively talkative and once they talk of it wasn't like I sit down like I would have a crush and be like hey, what's up? You know, brandy p can see and hear and she's basically telling me what it's saying But basically it was saying that the portals what they basically got a lot of these spirits that are roaming around it would More or less take them at these portals and kind of do who knows what to them and then come back as these malevolent human spirits So take that for what you will but uh, so yeah, uh, basically a human spirit can Turn bad if you will, um You know and it could be an environmental thing like beep was talking about it could be A more powerful spirit a negative spirit basically kind of taking control and making them do what do it spinning And it could be we ran into one whose name was Marcus and he kind of got the impression that he was just kind of a punk here on earth And he found the opportunity. Hey, I can you know, just cause mayhem and mischief Yeah, it wasn't being like coerced or anything to help out like the type three's in the building He was just doing it because he couldn't right and that's one thing all investigators will tell you Um as in life as in death. So if you're a decent person now when you die, you're still gonna be a decent person If you're an asshole now, you're still gonna be an asshole when you're dead Well, I'm assuming assuming once again that you guys wait based off your theories.
I'm not saying they're real or they're not mostly that they're not But assuming assuming your theories points are honestly Okay, assuming your theories are good based off what you guys are saying people get pissed off I get pissed off all the time and you know, it's like you're just asking can you piss a ghost off? Can you make him annoyed at you? Yes? My most recent one there is good was silent 49 there's a child spirit there named Christian and he does not like it when he said on his blanket Mixing it and speaking of a 749 there's a spirit there they call the guardian and I know Tim was on occasion and the guardians kind of grumpy spirit Anyway, but there's a gal in their group who just really set him off To the point where they won't investigate with this gal anymore because she just was so we're not sure what she did She was down in his area by herself and she came out.
She was she was a you can see the fear in her eyes like she was afraid and She's like I don't know what I did. I was using one of the tools that we had it was a ghost from ghost me to pro or something She said you know, you're not gonna follow me home. They kept telling her yes And when I and when she came out to where we were sitting you can kind of hear like in the I can't imagine anybody is silent 49 doing that So the pipes in the wall like you hear I mean you were there last week. Um, you can kind of hear a Bikes You can hear him kind of banging around then just kind of settling or whatever But in this particular case, it started up kind of quiet and slow and then it just started growing louder and faster And it actually sounded like someone was in the walls like hitting the pipes really hard.
It was it was kind of crazy I'm kind of envious of her because I went down there and I think they must have just all been afraid of my awesomeness You spent most of the other end of the building now. Well, no one told me where the what was his name the dominator? Guardian sorry. He walks around the dominator He's played out of room.
No one told me where the where the guardian was. I was going to hang out Where these so-called negative entities were but you know actually I was listening to my audio from that investigation Do they say my name? I actually got several evps at that time period and one was actually a threat towards me that was basically your dad And as soon as I'm done going through that audio will play some like I think I talked Did I talk about us podcast and she listened about why we haven't done more evps? Yes, I think we did.
Okay. Yeah, we did because I said I don't want to blow my ep water all on city. Um That'd be gross I knew it was there I was kind of like that's the awkward pause. I had to take it It's not your pause.
Somebody take it. Somebody take it Um Next up, so we will have more evps. We will be doing an evp show next time around and this one where he says Yes, I like that that one. I think is good enough that we can play that one.
Um, I have another one that's really good Um, actually I've got several that are really good from asylum 49 that I still need to listen to mine Sorry, I have one that I think is a sentence I've got an hour and a half left Well, maybe a little less than an hour and a half left of audio listen to and I've already got several good evps Now you said you had one more question. I do I do have a more question and it's actually a full letter from one of our listeners Her name is jennifer l jennifer l and I'm going to read it I'm ready to name actually give the name of our blueberry winner We're gonna say who the yeah, we'll do these questions were, uh, you know, I you guys forgot He doesn't get credit for this wonderful work. He did then I thought I said last time I said last time you guys said you couldn't remember because because I didn't bring the just like I didn't this time Sorry, I'm sorry. I'm actually someone named Tim last time.
Oh, it was his name Tim h What's the limit to me? It was to me? You know, know your name Um, thanks for the questions though. Yeah, thanks, Tim And anybody else is listening please send us questions We would love to answer your questions and kind of like I said last time a lot of the we have answers to a lot of your questions We just don't know that there are questions you want here because for us Kind of commonplace stuff that we don't and if your question is why is half a so awesome.
He just is Way I was born. That's all about the dark although I should introduce you to a smaller scotter Scottish dagger called the skin do which might be more appropriate. I got one of those Seriously, I do and believe it or not Skin to a spell with a g just put that out there's a g in there All right, so let's read the letter. Okay, so this is from Jennifer L And she says how do you wish team how do castle sounds like he's amazingly handsome?
Let me see that. Let me show that's how do you have Mrs. Castle rate this letter? No, she doesn't think he's handsome Castle's amazing.
I'd really like to get to that guy. You're so full of crap Says let's see I don't know how you can possibly stand to be so awesome. Well, thank you Jennifer That's right. I'm holding lots of paper.
That's right here. See if they really does something he's got a small wiener If I were him it's a dirk skin do if I were him I would be sad I'm sure he really thinks he's a ladies man, but he's like he's more of a lady. Yeah, we'll say that dask your mama how much I'm a ladies man We are I'm a let's read the letter. Come on.
I'm a letter. I may have exaggerated some things in the sector letter You see that Says how do you wish team first off love your podcast? I was into you guys at work being your buds in an office You guys are very entertaining to listen to so she's got honesty issues And I love the banter. I learned a lot too.
I started laughing my honesty issues No, she thinks we're awesome Nothing wrong with that. I would like to take credit for being part of that awesomeness But this is my first one since you invited listeners to send questions I thought I'd send one and I've one I've been wondering about over the last few months How do you tell the difference between being an empath and just an empathic person after listening to changa? Jess and dianne talk about being empaths. I wonder how someone like me would be able to tell if I'm an empath too I tend to assimilate the moods of others good and bad and wonder if this is because I'm empathic or just being empathic with people I'd like to attend an investigation but my fear of being an empath and the possibility of something attaching to me keeps me from signing up Is there any way to tell is one an empath without attending an investigation and by the way that castle looks like a sexy beast I think we've got some embellishment.
It's just okay. I'll say how do they know what you look like if you blurred your face out of every picture? Okay, I'll take this one since I'm the best I can tell I'm the big spoon. Hmm Are we doing the big spoon again?
Yes. Yeah, we sure are I'm sure Jennifer would love to hear Do you want to be the big spoon dianne is that why you're like opposed to this? No, I'm just tired of the big spoon banter Okay, I heard it for like five seconds. Oh, yeah, you obviously don't know what the big spoon is Are we like talking about like you to be in Yes, I'm sorry castle Okay, okay, sorry poor listener here we go That's what tell me her name again.
Sorry. I'm so bad. Jennifer L Jennifer L. So Um, let me tell you my experience For as long as I can remember, you know, I'd say to someone, you know, are you okay?
You know or that person's in a bad mood. Other people say well, how can you tell their about? Okay You know for me I could just tell people's moods and you know, I'd say oh well He's in a bad mood and someone else would say how can you tell and I think how can you not tell? I can go into a room full of people and someone asked me what's the mood if people are just kind of in a ho-hum mood I don't really feel anything For example, I went into my husband's dad the other day and he was shredding mail and he hates going through mail hates it hates it And something else had gone on that day.
Can't remember what it was but I went in and I could just feel irritation And I said are you irritated at this other thing or are you irritated at mail? He looks at me and he goes you can tell him irritated. I'm like, yeah, it's just oozing out of you We went to dinner recently and there was a lady who for some reason did not like me She just kept staring and I could just feel I don't like you vibes and it's just like oh my gosh lady I don't know what your issue is but stop it as you finally left. I was like, oh, I mean So if you're if you're around people and you can feel moods, I mean you can just tail by looking at that person Not even looking just being in their space that there's there's some emotions going on that other people aren't feeling Because what I when I would hear all the time was wow you're observant and I came to learn that wasn't that I was observant I could just feel these moods So there you go.
If you want to add how can you reassure her that if she comes on a hunt that these I'll feel bad Now let me talk about two things first off Everybody who's listening to me go to youtube type in the name teal swan teal swan There's a space nurse like two names teal swan select the color and the bird yes And uh she actually is here in Utah. She's a psychic she's really kind of this whole metaphysical spiritual world thing and She's pretty far into the point where I maybe a touch on the touch side. What? Touched?
She comes across as a little loopy. I'm like you guys. Yeah Could I like I was this yeah, but worse Um some people who get really deep into the metaphysical aspect of things get really and again It's all subjective because I'm again you think we're goofy um but there's different levels of goofy in her normal field if you will and uh I really want to say anything bad about her because she's actually really neat. Yeah, she's just like Really into the spiritual thing like triangles and vibrations and anyway She has a video on there called developing your psychic gifts And she talks about eating like asparagus and things that you wouldn't normally eat on perposus square good So I'll do it for you actually like asparagus.
I did it's pretty tasty. I like brussels sprouts too. Anyway Don't make that face it. Yeah, I'm just I'm just not like brussels sprouts too.
You got the look It was a look like I don't know why he likes brussels sprouts. I love brussels sprouts. I'm really going to people on the planet. I'm really Anyway She talks about developing psychic gifts and what different psychic gifts are and it's actually really good information In fact if you think you have second gifts watch that video and listen to her instructions That's actually very valid instruction Uh, but she talks about some people are empaths.
Some people are clairvoyance. Uh, some people are clairaudient. They can hear things Um, some people can do Psychometry, which is touching things. Do you have to raise your hand?
Um These are all different psychic gifts, but if you can do one psychic gift, you can actually do all psychic gifts And usually how that works is once you develop one to a certain point then For lack of a better term once you've maxed out a gift Other ones will start to kind of surface and Be there right and also you know, there are strengths and weaknesses If you kind of focus on one and you because that's what you really want to do It might not be your forte. That's okay And if you try and try and try and it just doesn't come just you let it go and focus on the ones that that you're good at Now as far as safety and investigation goes, um, there's no better way to find out if you are an empath and going on your investigation condom Which is what castle? We're just stunned your prayer condom, right? I'm sorry.
I probably should not even know what to tell you what I'm scared. What is okay? Come on what is it called? Mip protects exactly what does the prayer do for you, but what okay?
Oh, okay? That's yes It's a metaphor hello metaphor. I get you're saying it's kind of like we've talked about protecting yourself on any investigation Which is basically saying a pre-after but really if you are empathic the best way to find out is actually going on investigation And to be honest with you if you are you're gonna have an amazing experience because you're gonna feel things see things and hear things Other people are probably not going to see here feel right? I went to an investigation once and there was a type two the malevolent Spirit that had a body and I could just feel with something to fall off of you drop something up I'll pick it up later And I could just I mean I could feel just so much Grumpy anger.
I couldn't even go in the room. It's like no not going in there It's just I don't want to deal with that negative and while I'm on the topic. I'm sitting here holding my little bag of stones This is another protection Not to I've got to say rocks. Yes.
Yes rocks the jury still out for me on whether rocks actually do anything But I'm telling I disprove rocks. I'm willing to give it a try right so you can go to spirit and every kind of rock I'm pulling them out so I can see them has different properties And if you are psychic in some way there are several that you have a little different ones that are protecting Stones that you can get that will actually absorb those negative energies and protect your you know block Lock negative entities from attacking you your psychic abilities. Wow. I just stumbled over that sentence really bad Um the first language talks we were not it's their first language That was a really awkward sense.
Sorry. Sorry listeners, but there but you can go to these These stores where they sell these stones, you know spiritual stores and you can ask someone you know And there's a stone for everything and you can just tell these people hey, this is what I'm having issues with I have got to stop you right there Speaking of which now I was trying to define metaphysical craziness a little bit without being offensive because I actually like tell us one I've never met her but she seems like a nice gal and she's not hard on the eyes. I'll just put that out there as well Uh, she's I'll show up. She's looking out.
I'm not gonna lie anyway back on point So the analyst talking about rocks and like I said for me the jury still out of stones crystals They were best actually have a if you throw the rocks at the spirits and then run Not I can buy like now Reason I'm stopping gas because she told me a story the other day. She's got to show the story because it's way too Awesome and this goes into metaphysical craziness and people Doing things that you just kind of wonder huh like like carrying stones in your pocket Sorry, I have to throw that out there. Okay, so there's a there's a local store that I go to um to get mine and I asked her to pick me up some agates because I talked to a Renown second medium who actually works for the FBI and she told me that one of my clients needed a specific rock and like I said I don't know if they work. I don't know that they don't work.
So I will get a try So I told the other side go to the store to meet agates I need agates because I live like 15 minutes from the store and he lives about 40 minutes away So I go and I ask the gentleman who's there I said you don't even agate and agate is not one that I personally have dealt with and so you know he said Let me back up for just a second I have a son who is he was a teenager and he mentioned to me just through the other day that he was having a hard time concentrating So I thought while I go to get this agate for castle I'll also get my son a stone to help him concentrate your son's done. Yes with his she's literally Like biblical to me So I go and I tell this gentleman I say okay. I have a 15 year old son He said in a hard time concentrating what would be a good stone for him to carry because I'm very new into this as well And so this man says to me will let me read his aura And he closes his eyes and he's thinking and again, I'm still new with this and so I'm thinking how can he read his arm when he's not even here But I thought you know what there's things I don't understand I'll just let him read my son's are probably getting vibes off of me So I'm doing sting and he said oh I think he needs this certain stone I can't remember what it is and I went and read the little card on it I thought yeah, that sounds good. So I got that one and I said now I need an agate For a client castle that I meant like one time for a minute and a half So he goes he says he says let me read let me read her aura and I'm thinking dude how on earth he reading this I've only met her once for like five minutes But I let him read the aura and then he went away and then I went and read the agate papers myself and based on my knowledge of what she was going Through I picked the one that seemed like it would deal with her problems most but yeah kind of So did you pick the one that he recommended off of reading her aura?
I don't remember reading her aura through the universe never having met her He's very helpful. He's very helpful and the few times I've been in there. He has I just thought that was funny. Yeah, I was gonna say I kind of I had to touch tricks I kind of brings up what I was talking about with kind of the metaphysical craziness because you know if someone claims their medium and they see Tim and they Touch Tim Appropriately appropriately you can only touch me if you're a female medium by the way But they touch him and say oh, this is Tim's aura I can I can wrap my head around that because they can see Tim They can feel Tim but when someone's saying please do I'm all my lanta.
I don't want to be the big spoon anymore. I don't even want to be a spoon at all. He's available ladies Um But if someone's reading someone who they've never met spora from like 15 miles away, I really struggle with that I'm a hard time with that which is cool because I struggle with reading or is it all you know Which is interesting because anybody can actually read nor maybe we'll talk about it another time But I would like to give some some of my advice my very fine sage advice to jennifer So I want to go to time jennifer And you know the thing is whatever you believe I you know I give these guys a lot of crap here and whatever But my belief is I went there and if there were scary monster demon negative entity class five full roaming vapors if you will I What you're talking about? They're talking behind my back anyway.
We're in front of you. What are saying jennifer is if there are You know from what I've heard, you know, they scratch it. You know my cat scratches me That doesn't hurt and they're just I'm there's nothing to be afraid of is what I'm trying to say if they follow you home What are they gonna do? You know and and these guys are gonna disagree with me They're going to but I'm saying there's nothing out there that is is harmful to you and that's why you're still here That's why I'm still here.
I went on the ghost town with them and I'm not I'm not I would actually be more a believer I would actually mostly agree with you. Okay. Let's hear your advice. No, I think your advice for is actually very good The minor description and here's something I think we can agree on castle.
Don't be afraid They'll they'll but based off your theory. They'll probably feed off your fear exactly based off my theory Yeah, they're not there to feed off anything. They just don't exist but regardless don't be afraid You don't have anything to be afraid of and to be honest with you If I could give anybody one piece of advice with the whole paranormal everything is just that don't be afraid because those negative things do feed off of that And my only disagreement I had with your advice is that there actually are things out there that can harm you But you really have to take some steps to open the door to let them in so for the most part I would agree that yes, there's nothing other is gonna harm you and based off castle statement If you've got to take those steps if your concerns just don't take the steps exactly, you know And you'll be fine don't screw around with you know things that you probably shouldn't be screwing around with and you'll be good Now my other advice I give you with all of that is sign up for ghost hunt going to ghost hunt but when you get there You know talk to one of the hosts if it's one of chungas hunts grab me grab any one of the wist members who's there grab chunga I'm like grab. He means like get his attention.
It's not an invitation for us. It's me. Yeah, if it's 10 you can actually grab to me He's into that. I think beakers looking for some love But just let him know what you're concerned is just say hey I think I might be empathic.
I'm just really worried that and I guarantee if it's me Everybody I know who hosts these ghost hunts at least within our group within the pod goblin group They're gonna take you under there. We can make sure that you have a good experience and that you're okay We have had some things go a little bit sideways on a couple of ghost hunts But it's not been anything we haven't been able to deal with quickly and efficiently and at the end of the night Everybody's had a good time now. How long are we going to think where we are? I don't know I saw you guys pointing fingers and whispering about me.
I don't know what that was all about There's no secrets here. She was asking if there's a thing smaller than a scheme doing I It's called an ice pick No, I was while you were talking I was reading your rr r is purpley blue Really purpley blue because I was told it was red once that sounds contradictory Okay, so here's here's the deal with ours and I'm not an r specialist so someone who says this might be in and but to my understanding you have seven different R's there's you like your main aura, okay, and your main are is just kind of you just your personality your Just your own makeup who you are, but then you have six other R's that can kind of change like a mood ring Kind of kind of and your other six R's can change based on on stuff So what is a purpley blue and I'll tell you if that's how I feel right? I would have to look it up. I don't know is it passionate.
No, I do I'm kind of looking at beaker over there. Hey, baby I'm feeling pretty special Having known you since you're a wee lad of seven years old And having worked with you and among other things I spent a lot of time with you like man. Yeah, yeah We probably should end her friendship Daddy, uh, I was gonna say I know the traits of the right actually do fit you very well But like the answer there are different layers well, you know, let's plan on talking about wars in depth next show I'm in fact that is your assignment next what is your aura and how to tell? So we'll talk about our is next time we will have EVPs next time I promise We were actually how later where are we out on time thing?
Oh, our listeners don't care. They want to turn it off Still with us. Thank you. Let's just say you if you're still listening you have probably reached our record timing for our longest Episode ever just because I'm here, you know, it's funny.
You talk so much I know actually Some behind the scenes we actually show prep we usually have like a little sheet of topics that we want to cover And I didn't do one tonight because we had the questions and I thought I will just wing it and we've still got lots of stuff that we can talk about Where we have the search down at the timer one hour 21 minutes 48 wait 49 wait 50 seconds 51 Keep going up for you. You know what castle I was thinking um, I do have that investigation I'm trying to put together for just our team At the place up in Ogden. Um, if I'm able to secure that we can invite what's me Jennifer Al, okay, if she would like to join us with that if I get that going give more than welcome to come up with us and Jennifer You know what let's invite the other Tim to the to the questions. Yeah, we can do that Well, let's invite both of those and we appreciate you guys sending questions.
So Jennifer you have an invite to that I will get in contact with you Tim send me an email I'm pretty sure I still have your email but just in case I mean email and while we're naming names the the boo bear winner That is going to attend to with us this Sunday is Trina Tribbit and by the way We were gonna talk about the Charlie Charlie thing with the whole demon pencil thing Um, we will do that next podcast even though it's gonna be like old news. It's like not cool anymore It's cool for like an hour, but we'll talk about that. We're gonna talk about that But we're running long is there an r for when you have to go pee yellow Deep DPL. Oh my my be like green yellow and it could be a little clearer.
It depends on what you have yellow and antsy No, oh that makes sense now. Do you have I've been holding it so I just purple Kind of like I hit the chain All right, uh, anyway, thank you guys for tuning in We really appreciate you guys listening again. Send us more questions. We love it.
You answering your questions Um, we'll probably have beaker back many times lurch will probably be back the next time we record as well And he was afraid that we would we would miss him. We did I didn't lie. I enjoyed taking his spot for tonight. I'm never giving it alerts He kept your seat warm.
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