We're gonna lift on three, one, two, wait, wait. Is it on three or is it on three, go? No way. Oh my God.
No way. No way. Okay, welcome everybody to episode 99 of 1 million. That's right, 99.
It's weird to say that last double digits episode in the books of the serial killer's podcast from the Super Network Studio. I am here with Heligreg in the Super Network Bunker, 66.6 feet directly below us. How goes it? Heligreg?
It's good, man. It's real good. Oh, you just feeling fine? Fine and dandy like sour candy.
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Also don't forget to check out Super Simpson's show and Death and Co podcast, other shows on the Super Network. So we've got a few returning guests, one here for her second time. Welcome back Ashley. Thank you.
You're welcome. This dude hasn't been here in a while, but he's here now. We lifted the restraining order, welcome back. Welcome back Dustin.
Hey, listen to the sultry tones of the dusting. Hey, let's see, there you go get that robot penis in your face. Thanks, that's overwhelming. Smells.
OK, and welcome for the first time, new cover to the show. He texted us a couple times today saying, hey, what's going on today? Welcome, Billy. Thanks, guys.
Glad to be here. Excited. Glad to have you. Also excited.
OK, you guys know how the show works. I think Billy gets it now. But let me explain it for anybody that doesn't. Each week, I sit down with old friends, new friends, good friends, and bad friends to tell the story of an infamous serial killer, or maybe more.
Throughout the show, you guys can chime in on my story. And if you brought a story of your own, that is true crime dark, creepy unsolved, or otherwise mysterious, please feel free to share it. Lastly, if you have questions about questions, make sure to ask questions, because you can answer questions about questions if you never ask questions. You poke my fucking eye.
Are there any questions? Why'd you poke my fucking eye? Then welcome to and let's play. Oh, great.
Yeah, was that foreshadowing in the beginning there? Poking of Dustin's Eye? No, and you said each week I tell you about an infamous serial killer or more. Or more, I know.
It was. It was. Welcome to and let's play the serial chiller's podcast. Mm.
I just noticed because you deviated from the norm, and that really fucking with my chism. My chism. I threw off your groove. Yeah.
I picked up what he was putting down. You guys think you're so fucking smart. Maybe I just was like, I added a new line this week, because soon I'm going to have to do multiple serial killers. You know, like, oh, no me.
All right, today's. How am I a supervisor? Today's first serial killer is Steven Griffiths. Tell me.
Have you heard of him? No. No. OK.
This one Griffiths. Hs. Yes, from across the pond. So all the way in Canada.
Question number one in what year was Steven Griffiths born? Here's how we'll do it. Billy will have them write it down. You'll answer aloud.
That way you can't copy the English. All right, Billy, what say you? What year was he born? He was born.
58. 58. That's in says 1934. Ashley says 1969.
Nice. Steven Griffiths was born Christmas Eve. 1969. 1,000 points were actually off the bat.
Wow. Yeah. She just she walked out, stepped in the batter's box, won't get the first pitch and hit it out of the park. Yeah, she done did it.
So good guesses. Everybody. Yeah, I mean, you might need to. Actually, look at this.
There are 18 questions this evening. So as I like to say, plenty of time. Plenty of time. Plenty of time.
OK, I gave you a chance you were too late on it. Christmas Eve, 1969. He's born in Batley, West Yorkshire. So he does listen, huh?
So yeah, there'll be some names that I can't pronounce. Just be ready for that, you guys. August of 1917. Follow along on the watcher back of your spotter.
I guess I should say here for the record. The reason there are multiple serial killers is because look, you get into a point where there are plenty of serial killers to go. I've always said from the beginning, and I've kind of done it a little bit, unfortunately, that I didn't want to front load the show. But I also didn't think that the show would get to 100 episodes.
Am I being perfectly honest? I'm glad that I'm here and thank you everybody for supporting us. But the front loading was heavy. And I have tons of really great research on a lot of really great serial killers.
However, I have a lot of really great stories and crimes and some serial killers. That's just not a ton of shit about. Yeah. Not a lot of them go.
These are their stories. Like this is what that is. I think I brought three today. Two are fairly long stories.
One's fairly short. But there's not a ton about them. But they're interesting stories nonetheless. So that's why there are three killers today.
This isn't going to be seven hours long. It may end up being shorter than a regular. I'm not sure. But these are stories that I've had in the bank for a while that you like I tried to build up.
And then by the time I'm done, I'm like, that's not enough. OK, very good. So what are you going to do if you get to a point where there's absolutely no one else to cover? You're going to start paying for it.
You're going to start paying for it. And I have to go on a killing spree. Greg's just going to do it for free. I was going to say, hey, I got to give a week of class.
Whatever it takes to promote the show, because it's going to go down to the super network. But I think that's why he's saying, and I like that that's what you're saying, is that there are smaller ones that we don't know really about and how cool they some of them are. And although we are serial killers, not everything has to be about serial killers, because there are some amazing true crime stories that don't necessarily involve serial murder. They do involve murder.
Or maybe they don't. But there are some stories that need to be told that I do want to tell. So we get to that point. And people want to hear it.
Maybe that's when the show dies. And I don't know if we leave this in or take it out. People are coming in crime all the time. I was just going to say, you know, and honestly, I'm excited about things we're doing.
Greg's got a show coming up. Lindsey and Bree are rolling with Death and Co. Greg and I have recorded over 40 episodes of Super Simpsons. And we're recording for on Monday.
Don't forget. He's like, I do not check that calendar. No more apologies, though. Let's do this.
I'm excited. It's fine. I like that there's three. This is what we do.
Just warning you, I'm going to win. Yeah, I mean, you're definitely off to it. Sorry. So August of 1972, he's three years old.
His sister Caroline is born. And when he's five in 1974, his father had successful promotion. So he started making a lot more money and bought them a nice private property. But he's seven years old.
His third sibling or second sibling, third total, his brother Philip is born. And in 1982, when he's 13 at a perfect age, his parents get divorced. So I hear that's a wonderful age at which you're a parent. I'm sorry for any kid who has to go through divorce.
I hear it can be gnarly. So at least it didn't happen when he was, you know, young and impressionable. Like right at the start of puberty. Like a formative emotional time or something.
Yeah, that's not going to mess him up down the road. Well, we don't have a lot about him, to be honest. In his early years, we know that his parents divorced at 13. Also around the same time, they pulled their money to send him to a private school, even though they were divorced.
So he goes to Queen Elizabeth Grammar School in Wakefield. At 17, he drops out of the school and distances himself from the family about a year after that. So he's 18 now. So essentially, like he turns 18, he's like, well, I'm out this bitch and just took off.
When I think legal age over there is like 15, 16. OK. You can correct me, but I'm pretty sure. Real young over there.
Real young over there. But he's 18 at this point. So he's left the school at 17. He's distancing himself in the family now.
He's going to commit a little crime. Question number two, he slashes a victim across the face with a knife due to them interrupting him from a crime. What crime was he interrupted during? Was it A, a shoplifting?
B, a rape? C, an assault or D, a murder? And Ashley, to answer your question, it is 18. Oh, thank you.
They just, if you're younger than 16, they won't try you as an adult. Oh. Maybe it's a drinking age. I only know drinking age.
All right, you guys get to answer it right now? C. What would you say, Billy? We're supposed to wait for Billy.
I was talking to Billy. I was saying yes in the Spanish. Billy says that A, during a shoplifting, as does Ashley Dustin said, C, during an assault. Ashley and Bill, actually, I'm really getting points on this one because it was a shoplifting.
In the spring of 1987, he has caught shoplifting some food. And while the manager was trying to stop him, he slashed him across the face. So he had a can knife ready and did a little face slasher. Hey, exactly.
That sounds fair and proper. Yeah. OK, so Ashley. It's proper and false.
Ashley has 1,250 points. Billy has 250. Dustin. So in June of 1987, he has sentenced to three years in youth custody.
So he's 18 and he's still in, does three years in youth custody. That's what they're assigning him. So well, that just makes everything I just said, Ashley, a bunch of bullshit. Well, I don't think so because I think that a lot of programs work that way that they'll treat you as a youth until you're 21 or 22.
You know what I mean? Like you're a. I'm saying maybe back in the day, maybe now with 18, but maybe back then. Yeah, it does stay in some context.
For example, children's hearings and child protection orders that child is defined as a person under 16 years of age. Well, there you go. Equal. Equal.
OK, so in 1988, he's released from the custody. So he spends a year instead of the three that he sends to. Within months, he'll hold a woman at night point. And we won't find out about this about him until much later when he admits it.
And later in 1980s, 19 years old now, guys, he has gotten it together and starts to go to school. He tests well. And as such, he was given an apartment in Manningham and enrolled in Bradford College. So he got like a little scholarship thing going.
Like he was given a living scholarship. He wasn't doing a school pay for it. But they're like, we'll give you a spot to live. Yeah.
Question number three. What will he study while at Bradford College? Is it A, psychology, B, criminology, C, engineering, D, political science, psychology, criminology, engineering, political science? What do you say, Billy?
Got that D. Backwards D. Political science. It's back to C, yeah.
Forward to me. Political science, Dustin said engineering, Ashley said, criminology, three different answers, three different wrong answers. He was a psychology major. Almost.
I just seem to obviously. I thought it was going to be something rough. You think he was going to dive into the human brain. So after his recovery from being a criminal, he now only considers himself an intellectual, a student of life.
And is incredibly interested in and seems to even idolize serial killers. Holy shit, that looks good. Just our. I could tell.
So after his recovery from being criminal, he now only considered himself an intellectual, a student of life, is incredibly interested in and seems to even idolize serial killers. Now people will, people always like saying to me, like, you do the serial, you're like obsessed with those guys. Like, here's the deal. And I want to be clear.
Is that like, I think these guys are fucking asshole pieces of shit. And sometimes people will write to us. And sometimes they'll be nice. Like, hey, I wrote to this serial killer.
And like, all I said this. But then we've occasionally had some people who've written not like, oh, they're not bad people. And you know. You've gotten that, Devac?
Wow. Wow. And not only it doesn't come a ton, but like, I just want to set set the record straight. That was like that.
How he just said that. It was like one of those buttons that you press. I felt like that was like perfect. Everything sounded.
That was insane. But that is not important. You know, like, you guys can take that shit somewhere else. Like, I don't care to talk to serial killers.
I don't care if like, they're they've repented. And they're good people now. Like, look, I'm to me, this, if you look in depth on iTunes, this appears in society and culture under history. This is not, I'm reporting facts.
I don't have opinions other than fuck these people because they kill people. And I know some of them have mental issues. But I just feel like we get to points. I've just got a lot of like, oh, you're obsessed with serial killers.
And I'm like, no, like the stories are crazy. And I'm very intrigued by what's happened. But I'm definitely not obsessed by these serial killers. This is where I'm all sounding all defensive here.
I'm going to say we listen. We listen because it's fun to know about. I think I also wanted to use it as a time to say to the people that, and again, some people are very cool in the way they approach us and they don't like shove it down or throw us. But a few people have put a lot of caps lock and talked about Jesus and, you know, talk some shit.
You can take that shit elsewhere. Yeah, please do. I'll say, I believe that's what I responded to the YouTube comment if I'm not to. I believe it is too.
Yeah. I'll agree. I couldn't core. So he is very, very enamored with the idea of serial killers.
He said his hero is Peter Sutcliffe, who, if you might remember the name by the Yorkshire Ripper. So if you're I'm Peter Sutcliffe, you may remember me as the Yorkshire Ripper. Another serial killing says, whoop, you'll have to find out. So he learned a lot about them and what they did.
He seemed very keen on notoriety himself. He was very into the idea of being famous. So he was far more interested later in becoming infamous than famous. In September of 1989, he was brought before the Bradford Court a possession of an air pistol and odd behavior and since to 100 hours of community service.
He was like storming through his neighborhood with a very real looking air pistol and making threats of sorts. And he was brought in. And he was given 100 hours of community. He's 22 years old.
So I mean, I guess the punishment fits the crime. He didn't hurt anybody. He's not being a dumb fucker, but he was definitely kind of a non-crime kind of a non-punishment. Yeah, 100 hours of community service.
Go rake the side of the road or pick up a trash or whatever. May of 1991, he was sent to Rampton Hospital where he was diagnosed with a personality disorder. Later in 1991, he begins showing signs of mental issues and taken to another mental hospital where he's diagnosed to be sadistic and a schizoid psychopath. So this is early.
This is 1922. Sorry, I'm sorry. When he's 92 and he is 22, the red flags are now. OK, so 1991, he's showing left.
January of 1992, he sends to two years and leads prison for a separate attack on a woman, which was also with a knife. September 12, 1992, Yvonne Fitzbody is found in a shallow grave at Northwood Edge with her body found stabbed to death. This is believed to be one of Griffith's first suspected murders, but it cannot be proven. In the spring of 1993, he was released from his sentence at least.
So he did one year of his two-year sentence and they find a dead body that they will later believe is attached to him. In May of 1994, Don Shieldsbody is found in a shallow grave and Derbyshire, she is strangled to death. She built a bottle of fucker. I know, I start thinking about Derbyshire too much.
And Derbyshire, she is strangled to death. She is another of Griffith's suspected murders. In the autumn of 1997, Griffiths begins his Bachelor of Science in Psychology degree at Leeds University since going to Bradford initially had not worked out for him due to his criminal ways. Between 1994 and 1980s, now in his late 20s and he has a relationship with Lee Miller and it ends eight months later.
There was difficulty in their sexual life. Looking at it now, it may have been due to the fact that he tried to have a normal sex life with her and that wasn't fucking working for him. He needed some other shit, some sadistic shit. In 1998, he meets Zeta Pinder and they date for the next two years.
He lies about where he has lived so that she may never come to his house. So I guess he only went to hers. Seems like it was such a weak thing. Just dropped me off right here.
Yeah, the putrid. I'll walk. Hey, listen, my place is being fumigated tonight. Cool, here's 40 bucks, go find 40 pounds or 40 pounds in the UK.
Yeah, go get a British hotel for the night. I mean, I think the British would be implied at that point. Okay. Next question.
So, yes, they also had difficulty in their sexual life, very similar to the same reasons of the last relationship. In 1999, he is now into his 30s and is in a relationship with Amanda Judson that lasted until 2001. It had seemed to go okay, but many believe that he specifically chose Amanda because she was not very interested in a sexual relationship. So he was out doing his thing somewhere else and he was like able to be satisfied with this woman because like she didn't expect him to have sex with him.
Good, good, she thinks I would be nice in that one shirt. I think we're going to be on this side elsewhere and I don't think she minds. I'm just not going to tell it. May of 2000, Jim Simpson disappeared near Leeds after a rowing trip with her sister.
Griffith is suspected of kidnapping and killing her much like the woman before. However, again, while this woman, who many believe he is responsible for, there is no proof, nor has Stephen claimed many of this. But he's going to admit to murders. None of these he admits to.
So there could be different reasons for that. We'll talk about it a little later, but these are crimes that he's believed to be involved in, but he was never charged with. But you know me, I like to bring all the options February of 2000. He's now 31 years old begins a relationship with Kathy Hancock.
I'm immature. February of 2001, he and Kathy's relationship ended about a year after it started because unlike his previous relationships, he decided that this time he would just act the way he felt like acting and she should be able to handle it. In doing so, he begins to mentally and physically torture her. He's like, yo, this is my shirt, right?
I was just going to say, if you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best. The guy's merch seems pretty fucking bad. Nobody should have to put up with it. So he doesn't take long into the relationship to do this.
Question number four, Kathy breaks some news to Stephen. What is it? Is it A, that she cheated on him? B, that she is leaving him?
C, that she knows about his past or D, that she is pregnant? Cheated, leaving, knows about the past. D, she is pregnant. All right, Billy, what do you got?
Pregnant. Everything. Yeah. Everybody said that she was pregnant.
You guys all want zero points or do you all want 250? You guys did get 250 because of the announcement and news was that she was indeed Pregnant. Pregnant. She made him pop a balloon.
She was carrying it in and he had a knife and he was like, where have you been? He swung it out and he missed and he hit the balloon and it was pinky. What the fuck is this? Pinky and Billy, we're not choosing one.
It's already. So Ashley is at 1500 points, Billy at 500 points. Dustin on the board buddy, 250. Welcome to the game.
Dustin's opening his room. Just getting warmed up. I should start making one answer. There's 13 questions left, so there's plenty of time.
Okay, yeah, so in the spring of 2001, Kathy finds out that she's pregnant. And a few months later, she finds out that she's going to lose the baby. In April of 26th, 2001, Rebecca Hall's body is found beaten to death two weeks after she disappeared. Griffith is suspected of this murder, much like the others, although this is not on his official list of murder suspects at the end of the day.
He is not on the official list of murder suspects at the end of the day. These killings don't seem to follow a specific ammo. One was stabbed to death. One was strangled to death.
One just disappeared. And there's men and women. There's men and women. It's not all.
There was one male right at the beginning. No, they're all women. Yeah, all women. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't disagree. It's just strange that they don't follow an ammo. It's not like one was strangled with rope and one was strangled with a scarf or something like that.
I think what we're looking at is a lot more like these are cases in which his name has at some point been attached and not removed. Yeah, he was in the area at the time or something like that. Whatever it was. He's been officially ruled out, but I think it's kind of a few of those.
Oh, you know, that's also from 2000. It's also 2001. So I didn't go back and follow up on any of those cases either. You guys are already starting.
You see what's happening here? You're engaged now. Okay. So November of 2001, Michaela Higgs body is found stabbed to death in Sheffield City Center.
Griffith is suspected for her murder once more. And a lot of people predict that he wanted to be caught at some point for some heinous crimes, but he wanted to practice first. So these initial crimes, he went out of his way to cover up the crimes. And as he got into his quote unquote serial murders, he would intentionally be more careless so that he may eventually be caught and gained the infamy.
So that's kind of like the, like how Greg said, everything was separate. It doesn't really line up with an MO is like, some people say like, it's such a fucking crazy ass that he went out and he did it in different ways to see like what was the way he wanted to do it. And he's tasting. He's, I'm not, I'm not killing one person stand.
I'm killing six people. It's called a tasting in its classy. And he's trying to figure out his MO. He's trying to figure out where he's at or whatever it is, but at the same time, he's saying that you know, I'm there saying, you know, he cleaned up these crime scenes very well.
He didn't leave any signs of himself behind. But when he gets to the point where he's figured out what he wants to do, he's going to, he's going to intentionally become sloppy because he wants to be caught and be infamous as a serial murder, his hero. Yeah, that's like the acknowledgement thing when I like be acknowledged and be seen as one of the acknowledges and seen and if you listen closely, he will be from 2001 to 2009 through his mid 30s, he begins to drink heavily, use cocaine and amphetamines. His college roommates at this time, because remember he started late because he did some criminal shit at this time, remember him as a guy who was constantly self-medicating and in the club.
He was very like, I'm going to study, I'm going to party, I don't really sleep. He would do whatever he could to fall asleep and wake up or whatever it was that he needed. He had a drug that helps him with all of his issues. He also began to download violent pornography from the internet.
Then he just moved to traditional gore and torture videos after he felt like he'd seen them all. He began hosting his own website with gore and torture and hard-core pornography and like torture-borne and things of that nature. So he's like, so he goes on B. I'll down hill with BSM.
He's early B, O2. Yeah. He probably links for all over the place. And 03 is also still learning his bachelors.
So I'm just saying all of you out there who feel like you can't get it done. You know, like, you know. Okay, question number five. What is one of the first things that he does once he gets this bachelor's?
Does he apply for teaching jobs? Does he enroll to a PhD program? Does he begin stocking a woman he had classes with or does he move to the U.S.? He applies for teaching jobs and rolls to a PhD program, stocks a woman he had classes with or moves to the U.S.
like he got this degree, what I'm about to do. Is it the bottom of here? Yeah. Okay.
What do you say, Billy? I'm going to say stocks classmates. Billy says stock classmates? Well, the Ashley Dutton says that he moves to America.
And nobody gets any points on this one because what he does is enrolls at the University of Bradford for a PhD to write this study on homicide studies. So he wants to write about them killers and then murderers. You know what I'm saying, guys? No points for anybody.
The score remains the same. And then 1500 Ashley, 500 Billy Dustin's got 250 points. Yeah. I had an idea for season five.
Did you? Yeah. We brought it down. Okay.
So he's on a PhD program. He's doing some shit. He's doing his paper on homicide studies. January of 2009.
He's given a conditional discharge from Wakefield for harassment. Sexual or unsexual? I don't know. Okay.
So on June 22nd of 2009, the last time Susan is the last time a woman named Susan Rushworth is going to be seen in Manningham, an area that Steven frequents. She was a sex worker and her family said that she had been battling major demons. But one thing that she had no trouble doing was anything for money. Her brother even spoke about how he'd go directly out onto the streets and ask her to stop doing what she was doing.
She never heeded any of his warnings and became a victim of Steven Griffiths. Her body was never found and is believed to have been dismembered and removed from his apartment via regular black trash bags. So. Get serious.
This is where when I said got to the serial killings, these are them. Okay. So he's proven. These aren't alleged like the other one.
These are not alleged murders. These are. Okay. So with with Susan.
Yeah, we have to kill him. He's not the first time he's picked up a sex worker. And he's like the guy who's got a bunch of maul ninja shit hanging on the wall. He's like got crossbows and he's got fucking Katana's and samurai swords and mocchets and I'm not saying that makes me a dangerous person.
Right. It doesn't. But at the time he also if he if he frequents sex workers, I got to imagine they got it. Well, now guys, guys into some violent shit and I'm sure like they remember him and they're like, Hey, like if you watch this guy, he's into some messed up stuff.
Yeah. And it's on his walls. This is on his wall. So it's on his walls.
That means power. Some people said his house look like a mini armory, but he also he was out there casing streets. Like he was finding the ones who would do anything. The ones who wouldn't say no, like the ones who would come into his apartment and be like, fuck, all right.
I just I knew he'd get the money. Like he was he was a predator. He was going out. He was searching for the sick or weak.
He was picking him off and he was finding them. So she goes into his apartment. There's video of her going into the apartment with him because he lives in like an apartment building. There's no video for leaving.
On April 26, 2010 at 7 PM, Shelly Armitage is 31 and she leaves her flat in Alarton with a friend and has dinner on city road before moving towards Sunbridge Road and Rebecca Street at 10 PM until late. Armitage is last seen in Brantford City Center on Wednesday, April 28th. Armitage is reported missing to police. So she's missing for two days.
Doesn't come back. Her friends report her missing. I believe it was fellow sex workers and she's a sex worker as well. Wednesday, May 5th.
Police launched a poster appeal to the police. She's a sex worker as well. Wednesday, May 5th. Police launched a poster appeal to help trace Armitage which states that police are extremely concerned for her safety.
On Monday, May 10th police released CCTV footage showing Armitage walking a short way along a street in Brantford before turning around and retracing her steps at about 10 PM. On April 26th, Officer State detailed searches of Bell Dean Road and Bradford have been conducted for clues to 31 year old's disappearances. Incuries have also been taken in the Huddersfield where Armitage worked the years before. Detectives say Armitage who was health issues and was addicted to drinking and drugs has failed to claim her benefits or use her mobile phone since her disappearance.
On May 21st, 2010, Suzanne Blameyers from Alerton, Bradford disappears in the city. Monday, May 24th, a 40 year old man is arrested in connection with her disappearance. Question number 6, why was he arrested? Was it A, his neighbors thought that they heard something.
B, he was showing plenty of signs of his guilt. C, the police had a good hunch or D, he was caught on CCTV committing the murder. His neighbors thought they heard something. Showing plenty of signs of his guilt.
Police had a good hunch, caught on camera. All right Billy, what do you say? Hey. Billy says A, his neighbors thought they heard something.
Hey y'all. Both Dustin and Ashley say D that he was caught on CCTV committing a murder against the enclosure. Why are you copying me? Two hundred fifty points for Ashley and Dustin.
Check out. Yes. On the 24th of May during a seemingly routine sweep of the CCTV footage, the security officer sees a woman run from Griffiths. This is three days after the event.
Remember, run from Griffiths apartment as he minimally gives chase with a crossbow. Once he catches up to her, she is free to him and shot through the head. He then turns to the camera, looks at it directly and flips it off. On Tuesday, May 25th, a member of the public finds body parts in the river air in Shipley West Yorkshire.
The remains are not identified but are thought to belong to one of the missing women, or all three of them. On Wednesday, May 26th, police reveal the man is being questioned on suspicion of murdering play-mires, rush-worths and armatures to the public. The detectives are granted more time to question the suspect until the following evening. On the Thursday, May 28th, the body parts found in the river are confirmed as belonging to Blay-Mires, but they could not connect it to any of the other two initially.
During interviews, he gives enough information to give the police pieces of information that they... Essentially, he is giving up information that he knows they are going to find in his apartment. He is not giving up anything else. He is very calculated.
Very, very, very calculated. Is that calculated, though? Or is that just trying to play smart? Because if he is just stringing him along and fucking with him by being like, Oh yeah, look in the cookie jar in the kitchen, you will find something that I put in there for you.
It is not really... I guess it is calculated, but it does not seem like he is playing 4D chess. He thinks he is. I see.
I agree. I am not saying that it was a smartness move of all time, but in his readings and studies, that is where he thinks he is. He thinks he is playing mind games and he can win. He is exactly that.
That is why I am a psychologist. Yeah, exactly. Fucking psychologist. He is trying to be a doctor, guys.
Okay, so the body parts are connected to one woman that can't be connected to all three at the time. During interviews, he gives enough information to him. They had to meticulously collect weapons, swords, crossbows, knives, like I said, a bunch of things. Also the fact that he had murdered and burned the bodies of three women in his apartment and disposed of the rest in the river air.
So in a room, he was like, I guess in a trash can, burning women and just opening the window to let the smoke out. So he was burning the big parts and taking the rest down in the trash can. When they had him in the interview room, he is going like, I am surprised to take you guys as long as there is smoke billowing out my windows. For a while I had a close and that is why I was sitting all over everything.
Who is this people? He is like, what? It is crazy that it took this long. He is just going to talk and shoot to the police.
So on December 21st, yes, on December 21st 2010, he is going to go in front of magistrate to make his plea question number seven. When asked to rise and state his name, Stephen stood up and said, my name is A, Stephen Griffiths, B, Professor Psycho, C, Dr. Killer, or D, the crossbow Cannibal. Neil before Professor Chaos and Captain Disarray.
I thought it was Jeddies General Disarray. One more time. Was it his name? Right now.
Professor Psycho, Dr. Killer, or the crossbow Cannibal. So many good options. I mean, I had to make up at least three of them, right?
I guess I didn't have to. We got the D on it. Billy says the crossbow Cannibal actually says Professor Psycho doesn't say he just said his name that day. He stands before magistrate and says, today I am here and my name is the crossbow Cannibal.
Billy has got 250 points on them. Yeah, he stood up in court to state his name. I am the crossbow Cannibal. I just not listening or did you say that?
I have not. We haven't. That's why I said that was too far. I was like, no, there's no way.
Yeah, because... What's up, bullshit question? Essentially... It's a game, babe.
It's a game. Yeah, but that's what I used my challenge. That's exactly why I said... You want a phone or a friend?
This is also why I said that nothing that... Stephen is still alive. I want to call him. That's why I said that nothing that you can take notes about will ever be in the fucking questions.
Yeah. I can still take notes. I can still take notes. I should get the fucking points on that.
Oh my god, babe. One of the things they did not find in his apartment, but he did share with them was the fact that he had during the dismembering process cooked and eaten a piece of each woman, which later they would be able to connect with the body parts, all three to the three women to get back to him. So that is Stephen Griffiths for you guys. Like I said, we've got a couple more, but what we're going to do right now is take an official break.
Come back with a Helle Greg story. I didn't want to pee on your chair. Oh, I did that like 10 minutes ago. It's partying in the LAC residence.
Yeah. Okay, so we'll come back with a Helle Greg story and a Helle Greg question and then I've got a couple more. So come back. Alright, welcome back everybody to episode 99 of the serial chiller's podcast.
We are back with and you guys know this after the first break. What do we do? Wild card bitches. We come back with a Helle Greg story and a Helle Greg question.
So without further adieu, take it away. Helle Greg. Okay, cool. This is the Goddard based tunnel.
I don't know if you guys have ever heard of it. It's a tunnel that was made through the Swiss Alps. Don't Google it. And it was tunnel directly through the Swiss Alps.
It was it took a little over 17 years to build question number eight closest to the answer gets 250 points 1000th if you nail it. How long is the tunnel? You can give it to me in kilometers or freedom units. I know.
Can I do my own? I'm really talking about it. How long? The only ones to do that.
Tell me where it's at again. It's in the Swiss Alps. It's tunnel directly through the Swiss Alps. Instead of going like up and around and through on the on a train, you just go in a straight line through the mountain mountains.
Alright, Billy, what you got? I got 320 kilometers 320 kilometers. Okay. I got 69 miles.
69 stands wrong with it. That's what we got. I said 350 miles. Also, it's question number nine.
Yeah, whatever. That question number eight and also. It's not question number nine. It is it is 35.5 miles.
Oh shoot. Or I got points. You were right. He's just.
Or tar. It was eight. But who wins? What's the kilometers?
Billy, how many kilometers? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. What's your answer? No, that's like a lot of miles.
Clometers is like larger than mile. Yeah, no kilometers less than a mile. That's like it's really set. It's like 170.
I win. I win. Yeah, she won. She gets 69 miles.
It's 35.5 miles. It took it's 35.5 miles directly through the Swiss Alps. Like I said, instead of going up and around and over and all that stuff, they went, they had a boring machine and went directly through. It's completely flat.
It's the world's deepest tunnel at the deepest point. It's like 7,562 feet feet. It goes through the mountains. So like the goes from the top of the mountain down.
It is, like I said, it's completely flat. They removed 28.2 million tons of rock. Holy shit. Yeah, or it's just like an unfathomable amount of rocks.
If you were to like make statues of liberty out of it, it would be 140,373 statues of liberty. Holy shit. This is relatable to what the Tesla. I'm sorry.
Tesla guy. Oh, yeah, like the going underneath LA. Kind of kind of same style machine. This is like a, except this one is, it's like it's got like a diamond, a bunch of abrasive drill bits or abrasive wheels around the front.
It's a giant rotating oscillating drill bit. The thing's like 35 feet tall or something. Yeah, it's crazy. You want to get machines.
Yeah, it's fucking gnarly and it just tracks right up to the wall and then it just starts drilling and going through and it removes all this shit. Sorry really quickly. The kind of cool thing I like to think about in projects that take this long are like when they started, they're probably like, okay, we can bore 9 meters a day and you know we can get that cleared out and then you know takes one day to get that cleared out and we can bore another 9 meters. So, you know, we can bore 36 meters a week and then probably by the end of it, they're like, we can bore 50 meters a day and there is no break day.
We'll wake up tomorrow. We'll come back and we'll bore 50. You know what I mean? Like, I wonder if the technology demands a good amount.
And it took him 17 years. So I'm sure a goodly amount of technology. And how far was it? 35 and a half miles.
A lot of miles, man. And it started in 1999 and it finished in 2016. Can we go through it now? Yeah.
Yeah, okay. It's mostly, it's mostly a mining tunnel. It's mostly commercial transport, like just like product, not people. Cool.