Sound-Up Governance (ep.21) - The thrill, joy, trauma, and complexity of entrepreneurship with friends (feat. Sander Trestain)

TRANSCRIPTMatt VOWelcome back to Sound-Up Governance. This is Matt Fullbrook. And honestly, I continue to be kind of stunned by the brilliance of the people who are just, you know, around...everywhere, like one of my oldest friends in the world Sander Trestain. The headline here is that once upon a time Sander moved to the United Arab Emirates with two … Get full access to Ground-Up Governance at groundupgovernance.substack.com/subscribe