Special Ep 180 The Ugly Underneath by Carlos Rodriquez

In this special episode, Jill chats with retired Washington State Patrol Detective Sgt. Carlos Rodriguez, author of The Ugly Underneath: Navigating the Emotional Toll of Investigating Crimes Against Children, for a conversation that goes far beyond the usual true crime case file. Rodriguez pulls back the curtain on the world of child exploitation investigations—where undercover operations, online predators, human trafficking, and the relentless pursuit of offenders collide with the heavy psychological cost paid by the detectives who do this work. What comes through most powerfully is Carlos's deep concern for endangered children and his unwavering passion for preventing exploitation and rescuing them from harm, even when that mission demanded pieces of oneself. Drawing from his years as a detective, FBI task force officer, and child exploitation investigator, he explains how the book grew out of therapy, reflection, and the need to expose not only the crimes themselves, but also the trauma carried by those fighting to stop them. Buy The UGLY UNDERNEATH by Carlos Rodriquez on AMAZON and BARNES AND NOBLE. Sources, photographs, and information can be found on Jill's blog- August 2026 https://www.murdershelfbookclub.com/2026/08/   Thinking about going to Crimecon 2027? Use Jill's code   murdershelf    and save 10% on your badge! Jill's Merch shop is open! https://www.jusaskjan.com/murder-shelf-book-club Join Jill on PATREON for $2- $4 and help pick our next book and talk true crime with the other Murder Bookies!    www.patreon.com/murdershelfbookclub