Special Guest: EFL Ref Scott Mathieson, VAR, Liverpool Penalty & Anthony Taylor

Ian Cheeseman was the BBC's Manchester City correspondent for nearly 25 years and has been a fan all of his life. Here he hosts his weekly podcast, Forever Blue, where all things Man City are discussed. For this episode, sponsored by www.charleslouis.co.uk Ian is joined by former football league referee Scott Mathieson who's also a Manchester City fan. He talks about what it was like officiating at a City game, the neutrality of Anthony Taylor, VAR, how the rules have changed, the validity or not of Liverpool's crucial recent penalty etc etc If you'd like to support Ian's work you can message him by DM on twitter @iancheeseman