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EPISODE · Aug 31, 2021 · 1H 16M

Special Guest: Trevor!

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Hey everybody, welcome into today's episode of the Top Cut You Yo Podcast. I'm Sunny, I'm here with a couple of people, let's everybody introduce yourselves. It is me, Caleb, as I've always been here. And who we got?

Trevor. All right Trevor, so for those that don't know Trevor is a player at our local's ETB in Alexandria, Louisiana. And you are actually a sponsored player by the shop, right? Yeah.

Okay cool. So for those that don't know sponsored players are basically, the shop helps them out, just getting them the right cards that they need and stuff like that, to compete, represent the shop at a local and regional level and compete the best they can. So generally these are the better players in the shop, the better players in the area, and Trevor, as far as I'm concerned, you're probably the best player in Central Louisiana. I wish I was, but thank you.

Well you have a very, very consistent track record of tournament success, both on a regional level before lockdown began. And since, you know, after COVID, I know there was a bit of a break. Nobody really wanted to play at the beginning of COVID because it was like, you know, synchro Eldritch and Adam Antsbadder wants to play. Oh gosh.

The people who had those decks wanted to really want to play. Oh dude, that was a terrible format. Right. So you take a break during the VW format because, I mean, there's track extra play all that time, you can play a control game.

And moving through into that format, I know you got more and more into the game state and you start talking again in a lot of different places. So why don't you tell people a little bit about yourself, we can be in the game, out of the game, just who you are in general. And if you want, you can talk about your history of the game or you can talk about just whatever. Okay, cool.

I started playing the game in about 2014, right around, so when it started popping up. Right. Like dualist alliance, yeah, stuff like that. I was, I was absolutely atrocious.

I was playing heroes when Stratos was banned and the super poly was banned. I had gotten limited or banned or whatever. And I thought I was good. And I was just like, oh, like I was making a hero deck and I'll just be, you know, Jaden N Cippy, we were going out to Alabama.

Then I picked up a orchid deck off Dylan and I remember we went to the YCS, I got like 180 that of like 1,300 players, right? Yeah, that was called by the great ones at three. So call by the great was really deciding a lot of it and it sucks. But I did.

Okay. It's my first YCS, 180 is like, okay, like I'm going to go to Alabama, I'm gonna go get a top because I want to go to nationals. Right. So the next week, I tell my wife or two to go into the regional.

I'm gonna get this top ended up getting the spot. And then I think that was like 2019 or so. And I think Nationals was gonna be like in 2020, I'm not really sure in the world, just like in India. In the world I did.

Yeah, and so I never got to go with that. But I topped a couple more with Orchus. I played a lot of like different builds of Orchus. I didn't play like the typical Strengetracker.

I'd play like a Shane New Orchus. Right, right. I would bring out like Nightmare and make like a big, and like Machine New, but make like a big guy. Like I just played Super obscure next.

Had the hiatus and then we had a thing where we were gonna have a team more or something like that. And I came back into the game with Elden Zoo because I just knew that would drive it there. Like it was stupid. And then they released Zoo, so I'm like, oh this is even more insane.

Yeah, it just breaks the deck even more. Oh people, so many of the, gosh, it was like calamities? Yeah, true game. And I just laugh.

I'm like, that's cool. Like set like five pass and I torrential them when they try to extend. It felt good to finally have a controlled deck back in the format because I've played, I went on seven years. So I've seen a good bit.

I wish I would have seen like the great years, like the go formats and like the slow. And some people might think that's not great. I think it's great. But the slower formats, but it's so nice to have a controlled deck back.

And here we are playing Midrange, the Ribergade Snoresville. And had the tournament of champions got top four in that, definitely not one of my best performances. And just been on a tear when in goat tournaments topping and these like 25 man, 30 man tournaments. And right now that's supposedly super impressive.

So I'm happy with the results. Yeah, for sure. I think it's really difficult in a lot of places to get tournaments of any size right now, especially live in person stuff. And especially with basically the wrong ramping back up like quickly to be able to like get like a 25 man tournament.

You know, and for those listening that are worried, you know, like it's all being done safely. Oh, yeah, definitely. I mean, you got to take precautions everybody, but we do go to a lot of those tournaments. And usually me, Trevor and Dylan, all ride together and either Caleb or somebody else will come along and yeah.

I come when I camp. Yeah. And just all those, it's crazy to go to these tournaments. Like we went to one today and Trevor, you went for one.

Yeah, for one. Yeah, I went for one too. But you know, that one that one lost was to you. Now you played well, man.

That's a super simplified game stages. Yeah, there was a misplay there, but. Zeus is a heck of a card man. Yeah, it really is.

Honestly, I think Zeus is probably, well, I think a lot of people would consider to do some problem guard in the format. But it's getting a reprint. Yeah. Yeah, well, they got to make their money off of it before they hit it on the band list.

Exactly. Yeah. It was a long time ago, man. They reprinted all constructs.

And they were just like, no, we're just going to get rid of this. Yeah. You never know what could happen. It did.

It was super close. They were like, here's the construct retrant. Oh, you want to play construct? No, bro.

You guys got to take it from you. How did they hit construct on the band list? They went from three to zero. Oh, construct was all the way band?

Yes, it was all the way band. I didn't know the construct was ever banned. It was. Car was a tank Mac in the day, man.

The card's still like, like, all right, like, I want to say the deck went from like three constructs to zero constructs and three else should also one else. Yeah. Wow. And the construct came back to one of people's freaked out.

Just started laughing. Oh, dude, it was wild. It was fun. So I'm glad we have to know a little bit more about you.

I'm going to take a quick second here to announce something, though. I meant to the beginning of the podcast. I got excited about having a guest. And we did for those that are interested in, for those that would like to know, due to popular demand, people requesting it actually.

And we talked with a lot of people in our Discord server. We wanted to essentially we started a Patreon. And I know it's kind of early in the lifespan of the podcast, but our goal here is to make the podcast the best version of itself that it can ever be at all times. We spend a lot of time trying to get our audio right.

And that doesn't always work. But we try. Yeah, yeah, we work really hard to work on a consistent schedule, even when it's not like convenient for us. And the thing is, there's a lot more that we want to do with the podcast that we're currently unable to do because of limitations.

And we want some things like some really nice, better microphones. We'd like to get a couple of nice cameras and start live streaming the tapings, things like that. But the best thing that the best thing that we knew to do was to either start a subscription based thing through Spotify or a Patreon. And we decided to go with the Patreon because it's a little bit more flexible in what we can offer people.

Right now we have three tiers. We have a $1 tier, $5 tier and a $10 tier. And for those that join the $5 and $10 tier, we will be offering an extra episode per week. I'm not gonna lie to you.

It probably won't be quite as high quality and structured. Yeah, quite as structured as the current episodes are. It'll be a little bit more off the cuff, a little bit less formal. Me and Kale might end up having to do remote recordings just because honestly with our schedules, two episodes a week, we meet up in person usually.

Two episodes a week is already kind of a lot. So to do a third episode, we might do remote recordings sometimes. But you will get a third episode every week. And we're even considering starting some series, doing things like reviewing the best sets of all time or just going set by set and reviewing them all and talking about each set.

And this will be Patreon content. For those that don't join the Patreon, there will always be your regular Tuesday and Friday episodes roughly an hour in length. You'll always get that no matter what. You don't have to subscribe or anything.

And we will never take that away. We're also never gonna lock ourselves behind a paywall. So you can always join the Discord server and come talk to us, hang out. We'll always be getting matches in with everybody.

So don't think that to have a line to us, you need to be a Patreon. But what we do get, even if you subscribe with the $1 tier, you always get a shout out in the podcast. So we're gonna do that now. That's exactly right.

We do have three Patreon's already. The people that are on our Discord server heard about this a couple of days ago. We have Mr. Jeremy Drysdale, Mr.

Ray Powell, and Mr. Austin Johnson. Thank you so much to the three of you for showing out and showing your support. And we hope to have many more in the future.

So coming off of that though and going back into the discussion with Trevor. So we wanted to talk a little bit. We just came from a tournament, an advanced tournament. And looking forward, we know that the format might be getting stale for some people right now.

But the upcoming months, the format's gonna change quite a lot. So we're getting lots of product. And it's a very short amount of time. Yeah, we're looking at like probably six different sets coming out, six different products coming out.

And the next six, four months. Jesus. Six products in four months. Between October and January.

Yeah, really like four and a half months. And they even have stuff that's posted that's slated for like February and March release too. Oh my gosh. Yeah, we already have this schedule all the way through the end of January.

And through the end of January, I think it's eight products. So we've got Megatins, we've got Brothers of Legends. So the Megatins want any new cards and Gold won't have any new cards. But Brothers of Legends, Synchro Storm, First of Destiny, and there's a January set too.

Yeah. I keep wanting to say Synchro Storm because that was when it was pushed back originally. That's not correct. No, no, it's not correct.

There's also something slated for January. Yeah. Oh, there's also the Cyber Dragon structure coming out too. Right.

And that'll be new new Cyber Dragon stuff. Oh, Grand Creators. Grand Creators, that's it. It's the January set.

So you're looking at four, around four meta defining things or meta relevant things coming out within, you know, a month of, you know, four months of each other. Will we getting a ban list? I think October is the next ban list? Yeah.

So if October is the next ban list and we get four new meta relevant sets in the next four months. I mean, you're looking at four meta relevant sets coming out within that format. The game will be completely different six months from now. It's always different on a month to month basis, but you can look right now in August and look back in March or, you know, I don't know, six months back, it was February.

And the game is not like a completely different game. But six months from now, like the decks that are relevant now are gonna be gone and it'll be a completely new set of decks. Oh, yeah. In my opinion, anyway, I mean, the decks will still be played and you'll still see them, but I mean, in the same way that you still see virtual world versus what you used to see.

Yeah. Then of course, there's always new toys syndrome, which is going to make people, more people want to pick up the decks to begin with, just because they're new. Right. And then, so I think the first thing to talk about is the ban list and which decks in the current format will no longer be large threats in the upcoming formats.

So I think the three tier one decks to talk about that are really the relevant decks. I mean, you can realistically see hits to things like the Invoked Dogmatic, Invoked Shadal or Dogmatic Packages or I mean, things in that range. I don't see it really happening though, as much as Drytron, Trivagan, possibly Prank Kids. But those are the three decks that I think, if Konami wants to truly change the format, they have to look at those three decks and say, if we need to move these decks out of the way, to make room for the new set of stuff coming out.

So is there any particular way that you think that, it's not meant to be a ban list episode necessarily, but is there a way that you think Konami handles any of those three decks in particular? I think the one way you can handle Prank Kids and me and Dylan had this discussion is, if you put the cat, the little link one to just one, because the Battle Butler at that point has to either use that one resource or it tributes itself. So there's only one pop, because that's beyond it's Battle Butler is really strong. It can't be stopped.

So one more time, what do you say? The one cat? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. If you just put it to one.

Now, that might not be like super optimal, but the deck is still playable with what's the Recycled Guard Pranks, I think? Gosh, I can't remember. Yeah, plan. Plan.

No, it is Pranks. Okay, because pandemonium is a fusion. Yeah, I think you put the cat to one, you have to shuffle it back. So you'll have to play three of that.

So it puts like, well, you're kind of ratio in your deck, because they're only playing two because it's searchable. And you do that and like, what else can you do to prank kids? If you put the link one to one. Yeah.

Exactly. They, they, it's honestly hard for them to play. Then they have to play two battle butler. So then that closes, I mean, they don't have to, but I mean, it would be a little bit more optimal to do that.

You know, it changes up the deck significantly. And honestly, if you limit the cat. I think it's either the cat or it's the field spell. Do you know what I'm doing?

The field spell is pretty boss. Yeah, the field spell is good, but I think the cat is what really, I mean, the cats would send the deck over the top. Right? When the cat didn't exist, the deck wasn't playful.

Yeah. The field spell is the issue because it makes hand tracks ultimately not all there, because of the fact that it can change a lot of everything. Yeah, right. That's kind of like the next main like issue is ash, so my sir, those cars really hurt.

But that field that feels though, it's legit just like color, institution all the sorts of things. It does take a. Field spell is just gotten so crazy nowadays. Melt down, everything has like a meltdown esque effect.

Right. Like even the Fafnir field spell for a. Yeah, I read the other day I tried to stop it because I'm an idiot. And yeah, and it prevents you from stopping the rich.

Yeah, my opponent just smiled at me and I was like, you went bro. Yeah. It's just, it's amazing where we've come. Cause I remember Cosmo town was like, to me that first field spell where like, whoa, like, just go back.

Yeah, exactly. And then all of a sudden everything got that way. Cause they would pop the slip prize, pop it with slip rider, do all kinds of crazy stuff. And then it just took off after that.

I mean, do you think about it like, Terraforma, was that three until like, what 2015, 16? Chicken game. Oh my gosh. I can, I remember when field spells just gave certain types, a bonus to attack.

Oh, and then they messed it all up by the ones who gave more attack, but also decrease their defense. Dude, I remember. I remember playing hard by a four. Cause I remember playing hard by a four.

Cause I remember I was better at go for the first time whenever I was bad, I was playing a ARP deck. And I was just like, that's, you know, popping. It's pretty decent, but it wasn't anything crazy. Yeah.

It's, it's an interesting dynamic now with the field spells. I get Konami's always looking to take an older mechanic and make it relevant again, but some of the field spells, and I think if you're going to hit, if you're going to hit the invoke deck, I mean, meltdown is, yeah, I had meltdown cause issues for me today. Yeah. People will not put that deck down.

People refuse to put, we'll put it on the YouTube channel. We'll put a tribergate list or a dry chime. You know, 75 should all invoke goes up? It's like 600 views.

Oh my God, like 66 subscribers. Like where are you? Seriously. For those that don't know, Trevor and Dylan pretty much run the Teen Dark on Dealings channel that we are always talking about on the podcast that we plug at the end of almost every episode.

So I want to make sure that everybody knows there will be a link to that in the description below. So you can go on, check out their deck profiles, check out Trevor and Dylan and all the wonderful content that they're putting out there. Yeah, sorry we don't edit guys, but I'm busy a lot. And Dylan's lazy.

So literally we're the cell phone brigade man. We're like, hey, do you want to be on YouTube? And people are like, yeah, sure. To be fair, the video quality on cell phones these days is absolutely insane.

Oh, it's outstanding. So that handles prank kids. Just limit the cat, right? Yeah, 100%.

All right. So what about Tribergate? I know you play the deck right now, so you might have kind of a you know, I both play the deck, actually. So there might be an interesting perspective there.

I don't have a sweet spot for Tribergate. I absolutely hate the deck, but it's the best deck. So I'm going to play the best deck. Dylan can say what he wants to say, but it's the best deck.

I'm not going to ruin this. It's it's it's it's salad, but like better. It does everything that you needed to do. All right, Dylan, chime in.

I see the faces. No, you may go just tilt that microphone and let Dylan chime in. Oh, it just does everything you needed to do. It searches, it revives, it vanishes, non-targeting.

Even the dude, oh man, that card is insane. It's like I've ever seen in my entire life. Besides like I blow some bull sword and like go like that. Access code kind of thing.

Well, I mean, yeah, but like it's just like a in a built-in like an archetypal. Yeah, I'm just like, man, like they were just on something when they made this card. Also the non-targeting banish. Yeah, and like then you could chain block it.

I'm like, man, this dude is not very ominous. He's just like, it's like, I'm an just like, man, I'm just gonna mess up your order like Jesus. He's an owner of your about to get your rear end hand to you. Basically.

Yeah, that card is absolutely insane. I think if you put revolt to one, pot of desires is taken out of that. Yeah, you have to cut desires. I mean, then again, striker players are still playing desires.

They only have one engage. Well, that's the good striker player. See me? I can't put up desires of this striker deck and be successful.

I still suck. I think if you put a vote to one, the deck is kind of there. And I don't want to say 10 key because people are so 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, 10, it's just like, yeah, but like, it could be popped. It could be ash and then it's just, I just think revolt to one.

Then you have to start playing ruegle. Like you'll have to, ruegle would become a way bigger part of it because there's so many times where I don't get to my revolt. I make a ruegle and I have to like hard make an omen and just kind of sit there and just hope that they don't have a droplet or a dark ruler no more. Or I'm just, you force them to make non-optimal plays.

I think another good hit would probably share as to one. Or as to why? Yeah. Ooh, man.

Like, is there, it's these only effects that's different. Like in a way where it's like an extended. And like, it makes it where it's hard to like, you can't just play through it. Like you have a hard draw, a one of them.

It curries went to one, two, that deck would be obsolete. It really would be. Because everybody's got the answer to the second extender now. Everybody's holding the impurms.

Everybody's holding the effect balers. That curries comes out there striking it. They're banishing it. And what are you gonna do?

Like, just kind of sit there. Cry, cry silently. I think sure egg to one would be. Really?

Yeah, because think about it. Like if you put sure egg to one, you have to be really careful about when you revolt. And you have to recycle it too. Yeah, not like you do it.

And if you can't recycle it, your revolt becomes, like you have to cut like one revolt. Either that or just learn how to do more with the revolt. Or use a revolt as less of a blowout and more of an extender. Well, you'll have to start hard making the omen.

So you can revive it, do something with it. You'll have to keep it on board. You'll have to protect it. The deck would really struggle if you put omen to one.

But because you still have that revolt, omen play if you need it, the decks will playable. It's not very good though. Yeah. But neither is prank kids with one yang yang yang.

But the thing is, prank kids have a built in arc type recycle. Tribal gate doesn't. You got to be restrained like shuffle back to the cat. Yeah, shuffle back to cat.

And just restart. Go back from square one. Sure, you lose your battle butler, but you're still fighting. Yeah.

And then you just play a second butler at that point. It's like, all right, make another butler. Yeah. Try again.

Let's go. Right. With the ban off of. They ban off of loso?

Yeah. Because honestly, I've listened to an issue, dude. It can warp some games. But I feel like there's so many cars to out that card.

And perm, droplet. Effect mailer. Yeah. And just to get rid of all the attack off of it.

Swing over it. I love when people make like a 16 attack. Apple low, essentially normal on the front. Yeah.

Yeah. To be fair, though, if they're making a 1600 off, oh, they're in a tough spot. Yeah. Something's gone wrong.

Yeah. I do think that honestly, any of those hits kind of does the job. If you if you restrict any of the main deck tribricates, you can do that. Yeah.

Well, the thing is, if you restrict any of the main deck tribricates, you start running low on names and low on material to banish. So the deck is strong. And the deck is the deck strong. It's got high power.

It's really fragile. Like when it comes to banless talk, the deck's really fragile. Because if you limit literally anything in the deck, it becomes almost impossible. Everything just kind of falls apart.

Well, I mean, Shurag is the most, Shurag is the limit that is like, it sucks, but you still play the deck. Everything else, the deck's basically. I'm playing. Well, me and you experienced that with like tribricate names today.

It was, uh, dump all the names, activate, banish for calls as effect mailer. Then you tried and I impermed you. And then I tried and then you. I had two more impermed sets.

Yeah. And it came to a point where we lost all of our names. I mean, there's only how many names are there? Like 12.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, sure, prankets have 12 names also, but they can recycle them nonstop. Exactly.

And once all the names are out of the deck or banished, unless you just have revolt, you don't have a way to get them back in grade. You don't have a way to get them back in the deck. It can be tight. I mean, just start running return from different dimension problems.

We're playing traditional format now. We're playing traditional format now. Yeah. Oh, no, no, no, no, no return.

Oh, burial, my bad burial from a day. I'm going to say Jesus. Burials when it puts like five banish back. Three three banish back.

It's not terrible, but it's not incredible. All the reason I knew the card is this because I used to play chaos dragons back when that was a thing. Yeah. This one is at one, two, dude.

Yeah. That was a long time ago. I remember that card was crazy. Yeah.

That was around the time. Yeah, that was when the light pulsar structure that came out. See, I wasn't playing at that time, but I was like a kid. I remember being interested.

And I was just, why is this good? And then I read it. I was like, what's the banish zone? Yeah.

Metzmerized by the mechanic. Why is this good? Because future fusion exists. Hold on.

No, real quick. I was in a tournament setting with someone. And I went first. I went actually a future fusion.

I said, let's go again, too. That's all I did was I did a future fusion. I mean, in the chaos dragon match up, there was literally no point in playing out anything past turn 0. I did a future fusion scoop.

It's over. Future fusion was like, oh, I removed this one. Did you play that time? Like 20 early 2013?

I was in California. Or was that 2012? I don't really know. I don't really know.

I don't really know. I don't really know. I don't really know. I don't really know.

It was at the end of the In-Zector Dinerado format. It's like late 2012. The helmet format. I played a non-optimal chaos dragon list.

I was playing like a ganaxiada. so I was trying to act with all school. But I just remember the feeling of the active fusion and revealing five-headed. Just sitting five from deck.

Oh, yeah. I'm just like, hold on. OK, so if you all are responsible, play the deck is because I already had five-headed dragon. In-future fusion.

And I just bought three destruction. I can boom. Yeah, here we go. Yeah.

So that leaves Drytron as the last deck to talk about here. You do anything to Drytron. I feel like the deck just crumbles. If you hit Harold, that sucks.

Like, I don't even know where to even begin with that deck because it can still be strong. But we all know what the real thing is. Ben Tins just saying. Ben Tins sucks.

I think if you remove Ben Tins from the equation, deck is no longer the same thing. Yeah, it makes it harder. They have the hard draw of diviners, things like that. I guess it does create some really awkward situations.

I think Beatrice is a real super big issue, bro. Yeah, we would be interested in that, bro. Yeah, Beatrice and Eva are both problems. If you ban Eva, that deck's like maybe put Eva to one.

Maybe. Maybe. It's playable, but it's not really as good. No.

It doesn't end up like 15 gates. You don't see before you used to search your orgs like some Eva's with Ben Tins. Did you get to ruin them? But now you have to search your ritual monsters.

You can't just search a one. You can search a one or one. One or one is like, are they going to get your combo? Yeah, yeah.

But the other two searches off of it are dedicated to setting up the ritual. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I think Beatrice is a car. It limits car design, and it's a great card. But I don't necessarily know that it's the issue in that deck in particular. I think it's really Eva.

Because Eva's what fuels all the negates in your hands. If you put Eva to one, you go from having four cards at the end of your hand, like four fairies to having just two. Yeah, but even two is kind of ridiculous. I think Beatrice is an issue because of future game design, you know?

Like it is a volleyball chain that is not. It's taking a lot of time to get here. Yeah, yeah. It's a quick fix.

You can just do it in their stand by and do it again. It is like, we're strong. And I think we were talking about that, like, with Dragon Link, whenever everything happened, everybody's a Dragon Link's dead. I remember looking at you and like, there's no way it's dead.

Because as long as quick launch is at three, as long as they continue to print dragons, that deck is playable. Exactly. OK, so like, first of all, I was really devastated. Because I was my bad guy.

I was kind of like, oh, I had to get run at least. And then I was like, no, Chamber. Chamber of Dragon Maid is God. And not because she's thick.

But that card is so nasty. That card is so good. It's tidying. Tiding?

I remember whenever a Dragon Maid is first tonight, everybody trashed that deck. And then they released tidying. And the fact that you can recycle the negate, and you can put the Dragon Maid back your hand and give it another plus. It's absolutely good.

That deck is crazy. It's very under it. And then something else that a lot of people who play the deck don't really realize is, is that deck all has a whole bunch of low-tech and then when you go battle phase, get beefy. Yeah, and people underestimate that.

They're just bad cosmo. But then you go and the big dragons, they have effect negation. Attack negation. Granted, it's only during the battle phase.

But there's not much that interacts in the battle phase nowadays, besides like revolt. However, they hope they better not play it for rocks. However, you don't have to bring back the same ones. Yeah, you can interchange them and go for different ones.

To set up other plays. And not only that, it also frees them from stuff like, I'm drawing a blind. Yeah, yeah. I played robbery in the deck.

I got a robbery today. And I was like, I hate my life. Yeah, like, yeah, like, because it frees them from any on field effects, keeping them from doing whatever they need to do. And the thing is, you put the pluses back into your hand and they get you more.

Exactly. And if you're not careful, the deck will go like plus eight on you. Like, I don't know where. It's just, I love the mechanic.

I love the way it looks. Kaleb, you really just need to give me that deck. Yeah, so Kaleb got all my stuff for that deck. Yeah, yeah.

So it's on your hands, you have a binder. You have two dragon-made cards. I thought I had more in there than that. I was like, thank you for trying to help.

Sorry, sorry. I know someone who really likes Miss Kobayashi Dragon-made. I was like, I got the deck for her. So the last thing to talk about as far as the current format, I think, there's a pretty heavy debate going on right now.

I think everybody agrees that it's a problem. It's a dragon-made-red-eye fusion in Vertanaconda. Right? I think everybody in this room would agree that.

I mean, you just saw my face drop. Yeah. It's an issue, right? But the key is, if you're going to hit, one of those three, which one do you hit?

I think you hit Andaconda, because then you have to play three red-eye fusion in the deck. And it's hard-open it, not the... Exactly. Well, I remember back at work as a first-class district.

With Nightmare Mermaid. Oh, you stopped my combo? Oh, I have two creatures. Nightmare Mermaid.

Someone out, Nightmare, the orcas, Nightmare thing. Here's my whole combo. Now, that deck was a little bit... I feel like that was like crazy, because then you get access to more work and stuff.

Access to dinghears, to access to a counter-trap. But your goon is just so... I feel like only kind of like Stoney Decks, like slower decks will have to play at that point. But Anaconda and these combo decks.

I remember I had to be rude to dude a Phantom Knight's guy. And then he just brings out... I mean, Phantom Knight's just go. He just brings out two creatures and makes it a dragon.

And like, it's just like, how is this fair? Right. How's this fun? So the argument for Verte is that Verte outside of a dragon package specifically, is actually kind of a fun toolboxy card in decks like Cyber Dragon, Fluffle, things like that.

Even all, should all, even prank kids. It's a really interesting extender in those decks. But the card does limit future card design. Exactly.

It's actually fusion based card design. Yeah, but I mean, to be fair, should we really have this many fusion cards in the game that lets you send materials from the deck without restriction? I mean, I guess they have restriction, but... Yeah, they're usually restricted to typing or restricted to archetype.

I'm fine with it being restricted to you. It has to be a result in this archetypal monster. You can only use these archepal monsters. I'm fine with that because then it gives them that niche.

Like, should all, like the El Shaddal Fusion and Shaddal Fusion. Right. Most of the restrictions are actually like the materials. And also, we're actually fusion, like, having a huge restriction, and the conics gets around that.

Right. Also, to make a fusion, the fusion mechanic in general is actually a very flawed mechanic because you get from the deck to make one creature. And it's like, well, to make them viable, they have to be free. It has to be broken.

Like Shaddal Fusion, sitting from the deck, it's still good. Oh, shaddal skes on that. Not only fusion summons by banishing material. But since guards from your field as well.

Yeah, yeah. Since one of your opponents belongs to Spin and Pulling An attribute, and the most common attributes in the game right now are what? Light, dark, and fire, probably because of tripe. Yeah, fire, maybe Earth.

OK, we just listed almost every type. No, no, no, there's not a whole lot of water in wind, which are the only two El Shaddal's that are terrible. All the elements are great. Hey, come on, the water's not that bad.

I mean, because she lost you out of your own mechanic. Yeah. Your opponents are out of the mechanic too, but. They're one of the first on the car.

I was like, what are they doing? I think we can all agree, though, that like Dragoon can say. Like, Dragoon's a tough card, but. It can be dealt with.

Yeah. And not only can it be dealt with, as long as it's not being, you can't splash it literally everything. And the cards that make it splashable are the red eyes fusion and the anaconda, right? So.

Well, then you have to play pot of prosperity. That way you can see it. Because you're not going to play desire. You're going to play a banisher of targets.

Because then now you're playing three red eyes fusion, which are bricks in themselves. After the first one, you have to play the dark magician, you have to play the red eyes. You have to play the red eyes. Exactly.

And if you're selling out on that, then you're not playing a deck that's, you know, someone in 1,000 monsters playing like something like an Eldridge or a Grave Keepers have been doing it. Yeah. I think the relationship comes in, though. Like if you look at the anaconda, that card itself should have more restrictive on materials.

Like, should have been two predefined monsters. Yeah. Yeah. Like, that's the issue.

Two effect monsters, I'm saying. Yeah. Yeah. Or like, at least like two dark, some restriction, two dark monsters, two plant monsters.

Yeah. Plants are already broken. Don't give me more. Dude, I wish that plants would come back, though, man.

I miss a little bit so much. Yeah, but you get what I'm saying, though, it needed to have been more restricted than just any two of my characters. Yeah. Any two effect monsters, that's crazy.

If I'm going to hit it, I think Red Eyes Fusion is the hit, but I have a sweet spot for those weird, janky fusion decks. So, the anime type card, man. Yeah. I have to make Red Eyes Fusion.

Yeah. Yeah. But did I search off Red Eyes Insight? That card is, I mean, you can play that card.

Yeah. It won't be optimal, but you can get through Red Eyes Insight one red eyes fusion. Well, that's still two bricks. Yeah, that's, that turns into, but I've seen some people play like three red eyes fusion, one or two red eyes inside, like something like a Grave Keeper deck.

Realistically, you're just 100% like a stun or control deck anyway. And you just have lots of space for the extra cards, traps and traps, lots of flex spots. And you can run like a larger package. So, because realistically in that deck, like, Jurgoon is your win con.

Yeah. So, one of them anyway. So, let's, let's look forward. Let's assume that those three decks get handled in some way.

There's like three main decks that I want to talk about. Pretty much I've already heard about them at this point. We have Flunder Ease, Sordsole, and Exor Sister. But before we get into that, I believe it is time to talk about our sponsor.

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