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Pulled boogie. I think this is my third boogie's. Yeah, wow didn't even know this is gonna be a part two But then part one lasted so long where you're like Jesus. We haven't even got no category yet I feel like if we redid JFK I would go to parts because now we have more documentation Who said why can't we go Lucas on it and just dive back and just try to keep a good idea We should really edit that one and get more more conspiracy theory in there Let's take categories because there is a lot to cover most rewatchable scene opening she does in the Darth entrance That's in there, right?
Yeah. Yes first appearance with North Vader. Yeah Luke meets Obi-Wan Here's that is dad Now that's a name I haven't heard for a long time. That was good.
Not bad. It's working on it. Of course. I know him.
He's me We got a safe C3PO we find out that Vader was seduced the dark side of the force was that more? Yeah, dark side of the force. It's given into your ears What's that means? Well, there's a whole prequel trilogy about how that happened?
It's an energy field to vol living things out there What's his name and heat what's that guy's name? It's Tom Newton character. What's it? He has a name in the movie?
How do they name characters that we never know so? This is a short scene for me. I just wrote down Vader fucks up the conference room meeting and chop forces attitude Oh, you mean like in a wow you fuck you fuck that guy up. Yeah, like you fucked up No, he rex the meeting.
Yeah, and then she looks at it dude because the guy calls him out Yeah, don't be too proud of this technological terror you've constructed the ability to destroy a planet is insignificant next to the power of the force Don't try to frighten us with your source where his way is Lord Vader You're a sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the rebels hidden Don't try to frighten us with your source or ways He's so certain and he doesn't know who he's fucking wait He's but the first one to be choked out because after talking is dead Vader's fucking on he's off the leash for the next couple of movies chucking out everyone It was like when Dylan Brex talked back to Jimmy's back to the battle Bill his body language not the greatest bear You know right sometimes you can tell by the pupils It's not right to enjoy every day or moment of this movie right The Star Wars bar I can't tell you after I'm done. I just I try to cut it down I got I think this is the one of the best scenes of the entire 70s It has looked to a lot of comedy a lot of jokes over the years of oh my god What far do we just walk into this is the Star Wars bar? Just a million of those we don't serve droids here. Yeah, Troy raises Well, we didn't know at the time the droids dance the problems with the joys the joys are telling what were the problems I actually don't know what you're talking about isn't where the droids part of like the clone army or whatever like oh no no no no no Well, do you think they know see through they know free feel and and R2 d2 from before no I know like oh, they just have like an antagonism towards droids in general right so during dry bias Well during well not the Clone Wars, but sorry to the Clone Wars like this is why I can't be so That's why he said I don't know actually he said it because droids don't drink and they take up space in bars Oh Okay Somebody drinks Do you like the Star Wars might need a more or less than the verdict bar Does is this bar the same set as the barn raiders?
It's not but they have a similar energy yeah with that like the way the bar is set up a lot of scoundrels in the mix there We got monaster with test goes on his chain we get the negotiation with Han Solo for 17k and most important we get a shootout with Han and Grita which becomes the most I never knew any Research the Star Wars universe loses their fucking minds about this. Yeah, why is this so important because it's central to Han Solo's character And it's the MJ versus LeBron of their culture absolutely for my dead body Oh It's central to Hans character well can you can you go backwards so in the first cut of the movie which no longer exists? People think Grito never shot him Han shot first Han shot first That's why they're the Han shot first t-shirts then in 97 what happens they change it to where Grito takes a shot at Han and misses And Han like ducks and Grito's like muklunkie right like a line that was not in the movie originally in the fucking and the Star Wars nerds lost their So this is the deal this was like the most egregious violation red converse decency right and this is the thing right? This is to me emblematic of what happens to something when it is consumed by the masses Solo has already been established as a good guy he goes from being a scoundrel and someone who only thinks about himself to being a good guy We don't need to make him a good guy at his core his character art is that he finds value in his friends and in his relationships And then becomes back at the end.
Yeah, that's the value of it. We don't need him to always at his core have been a good guy He is the type of god. It says oh you're here for this. I recognize my opportunity I will kill you before you have the opportunity to kill me.
Can I ask you a random question? We'll change that What would be a better name for a rapper Han Solo or grito? Grito is the real great tree. Yeah, great tree.
Yeah, I can bring it actually grito or did he is it like an extended name? His name is old three grito. Oh, but that's not grito. His name is grito though Inspired by grito.
Yeah great name. It is great tree very unforgettable We should go down the lots. This is what we should go down the lots That's what we should have had in British like the actual was and the star was potted in watts in watts We should have done it down and did it with the green trees. They'd have been I'm gonna be glad I have art to and chewy playing circle chess.
What what's going on there? They're just playing futuristic 3d risk chess. Yeah You skipped one of my favorite low-key scenes though. Okay, stop.
I'm talking making Leia watch him blow up her planet While darth puts his dad hands on her. Yeah, really like that's pure kink. That is king. Yeah, it's also like one of the most illest things i've ever seen I grew tired of asking this so it'll be the last time.
Where is the rebel base? Dantu mean? You're on dantu mean? Well, you see lord data she can be reasonable continue with the operation you may far win ready What?
Your far too trusty dantu mean is to about to make an effective demonstration without worry. We will deal with your rebel friends When I was a kid the first time I was like there i got bored that point it up though Not just to test the weapon sets the sex of the movie Yeah, also look at the sheer shock and horror on her face when he goes ready weapon system fire will And we say you're far too trusting? Yeah What and then she has to watch everyone her family everybody she's ever known to be fair though. She gets over it pretty well.
Yeah I have some notes about that a little later. Yeah Well, they're in the circle chess scene we get we learn that it's not wise to upset a wookie Luke tries to figure out the force of the lightsaber So it's like fucking I don't believe in the force you guys are fucking crazy And then uh, and obie's just coming in with the your eyes can deceive if you don't trust them Doing his thing. I really like all that's going on that scene There's just there's a board game going on. Yeah, there's somebody trying to figure out the force Han Solo's cracking shit.
You know that thing of course. Okay. I have the falcon crew breaking into the mothership What are our thoughts with chewy with a gun? Do You want to break it up other ship with that guy It's so close to long legs How dare you you talk about your body did you look in the mirror last night?
But you came in with like a really good alakiness like a really good man And I met You know what the fuck you know why you should join this way joo is the muscle you gotta have the princess. Eh, they're gonna save her We figure out are you gonna buy another fighter? Vader. How do you feel about Vader's like a presence I've not felt since what is this?
Yeah, yeah dealing with Remember that's his master that's his teacher. Yeah locked in the force and this is their third Dual that they've had there's moose the far and there's the dual that happened in the Obi-Wan movie They don't know And so this is the i agree and so this is the third dual that they have but this guy was been training since he was a little boy So they're connected in the force. He also cut into pieces in the room in lava. Yeah, he's probably like Well It turns out he's not feeling the force.
It's bill belshach girlfriend She's trying to interrupt the same Should she have been there when lei was being questioned about the location of the rebel How do you feel about escape is not his plan i'm a space of alone Just looking at Charles bronzer What do you mean the force How do you feel about his plan of face? Obi-Wan alone. Oh, they're still on journeys later still on a journey He's just Better at the journey that was outlined for him and for the emperor. It's so it's so the lord so dancier But for him to and ovi want actually has a journey as well He makes a decision to become one with the force so that you can become a force goes No, that stuff so them facing each other is a separate battle then the one that's happening between the empire and rebel little little pro wrestling in this It's like we got to do a steel cage match and really figure this out.
Yeah, we've had a couple other matches There's no This is a loser leaves down loser leaves his corporeal form and we go right into the garbage hole what we're trying to compact their compacter Oh We get the garbage snake now was that in the original movie or they add shit The name of a fan's favorite axle brawn movie It's a dark dark dark movie This whole scene is really really this is would you say this is the uh, what's our category for the uh, okay? It's up there. I think okay motherfuckers with Darth Vader blast through a door in the first scene But it's this is so cool. Even though like some of the physics of it don't really make any sense Yeah, it's I always and every time I watch it Uh, I'm really nervous that they're not gonna get out.
I'm worried that one of them is gonna go down It's gonna get squashed. Yeah, it seems like every time you're so happy that three people comes through because they're so elated Yeah, they don't get squashed Squashed scenes always work where people are like And you just yeah one of my favorite cuts in the whole movie is when luka's got the radio and he's screaming and he's like three Be oh three be oh and then it cuts to the mic on the other end and three people's not there Oh my god, and you can hear it and he's stuck behind the closet door and three things that they're all dead He's like And then she was like Is get such a raw deal because a lot of Star Wars fans don't like three p.o Really? He's got some good lines. R2 is a hero.
R2 is a hero. He shows up You know, he's kind of dream on d that was fine. You know like R2 is three p.m R2 is like dream on to luka's his stuff in this equation basically, you know, like we need our Luke needs R2 Sure, it's a navigator. Yeah, like dream out with no flavor and sir anything.
Yeah, and he always comes through. He's brave He's fight he fights. He's resourceful. Well, not a brave little joint He didn't he didn't knock my socks off any of their dealing, but maybe I missed some stuff Cantina into Death Star invasion into compactor crack.
Yeah incredible sequencing so good Dark first Obi-Wan. No, I had the master Your power's a week old then I'm starting to sound like chug me Oh A day long remembered it has seen the end of Kenobi will soon see the end of the rebellion Did you want more from the saber fighter now? I think it was a sacrifice for very you know for a long time sir. Alex like little twirl move kind of slow Yeah, we can get into that kind of alice in the low post.
Yeah, jump again It wasn't great. They could have sent up a little maybe oh look I will say that We reinvented the lightsaber battle in the prequel trilogy like obviously red flip some shit You want flips and but luka's even used story to explain that he goes there were thousands of ji It was a more elegant time like like one says and they fought with more flair and more style seven different styles of lightsaber defense and offense So jj redic plumbers and La Brod for another second half it's gonna look like These jazz were driving cabs at night to make extra dough I was trying to think like if like shannon sharp not being on first take anymore If they have to jump start the ratings they should do segments where they do like stuff like them actually breaking down obi One versus Vader just like oh He just rolled over This is why he wasn't the greatest Jedi just I can't spot me What's he doing? He's just in the desert. It's not even a great Jedi What is he doing is a good question two more scenes that my name falcon comes back to save luke Which I don't remember seeing the experience of seeing this in the theater other than being like whoa outer space But I guess a lot of times people cheered in the theater when the falcon When the falcon showed up that was like a a moment then I have you now.
They're not aware He's not that and they don't kill Vader. Yeah, don't kill vader. Great shot kid. That was one in a million Have you got The trench run is my most rewatchable scene.
This is this whole sequence What have you watched? It's the biggest thing in the movie. I got a big ceremony. You do.
Yeah, I think It's not really a like there's very little dialogue. Did you get like a metal bear? No, don't don't act. You know this, right?
No, he's on the stage. No, there's a whole thing about this A metal and man to give him a metal in the later movies and you know No, I never thought he was on the stage Wow, we also disrespecting chewy chewy doesn't fly anything Mate I think the chewy deserves the metal I think the joy should have got metals too. I agree There's a car way to the droids and they're just like they're now shined up But I think they should have got metal too, but just let you know the fact that chewy didn't get a metal Uh is a gigantic deal and in I think it's rise of skywalker. Yeah an abomination of Movie which he should have been killed right.
Yes, and they ended by giving him a man gave him his metal I'm gonna do my CR thinks luke Wilson could have been Harrison Ford how to stake a word right now Chewbacca most over it and suck it ever Stands out of where he goes. You can't slide into any just wait. It's a hot mistake. I'm sorry It's everywhere you go with him.
He stands out. He's a fucking behemoth who's not gonna notice him He speaks an unintelligible language that only one other person understands. He can't do anything. Okay.
He's fucking useless He can't you don't really see why shit you don't know Can I finish never use this size of strength and I don't understand Okay, first of all he is like two stars. He is an expert pilot. He's actually an expert shop Like is he ever piloting in the Embarrassing When they're leaving tattooing and they're escaping and going into hyper speed, you know chewy was there he was That wasn't something The Has more utility in the future films physically. Yeah in the next two.
That's what I wanted By the way, it is fun to look at you baka that konobi talks to That's absolutely right in order to get luke and konobi on to the ship. He arranges the whole deal To me, I think there is a case for most rewatchable scene for the cantina scene because the cantina scene gives you this It gives you obi one wheels of lightsaber the first time you really Very exciting. It's the first time you also see a limb get cut off in a star wars movie something that recurs throughout all these movies You get Hanigriya, which is super small character moment in a movie that tells us a lot about the world we're in And then you get this great getaway sequence That's all part of the cantina plus the jazz score and all the cool character like the creatures from that scene are all in that Little 12 minute pocket of the movie. It sounds like you're making the case for me It's 100 percent the cantina I love the cantina my my vote was gonna be trench run, but I do think there's a case for cantina So it's so much fun It's the most fun 12 minutes I can't believe there's like a sequence of a sci-fi movie that lasts 20 minutes and still like 40 years later I'm like yep And then porcans comes in and then this happens and then the tie fighters get behind them But then the one tie fighter spins out and I feel like it's like one of the most amazing Air air sequences outer space sequences ever coming into phone.
It's okay So between the two scenes and it's also basically the plot of top of meveric it's between the two scenes It's including them getting off the plane. It's the end of the top gun This is between these two scenes to me. I can make maybe Maybe an argument for the entire sequence where they're actually dressed like stormtroopers and they are rescuing rescue princess However, the two pocket part of his little dice if we're It's a prisoner of transferring if we're talking about again rew They're just like running around the death star trying to escape stuff like that It is fun to be able to find out about that Yeah, there's been so many movies since and so many of them have cribbed from them being trapped And like I watched this and I kept thinking of all the Austin Powers movies how many things they've ripped off from star We're like a big conference room on this it's also There's so many things across obviously the entire trilogies of films and shows but with even within the film where you're watching something You're like oh wow that kind of get away with this and it turns out like Vader talks target into letting them go So that you can track them back to the rebel means it's like everything has a He was on one that's really really really using the force in the wrong ways What's the most? Yeah, what's the most?
1977 thing about this movie CR Nixon being it no I I guess some of this like a laser beam special effects some of the explosions where it's just looks like a sparkler going off I mean like they did incredible stuff but there are certain things that they just couldn't catch up with yet I see I wrote that down the but as a positive just that the overwhelming amount of practical effects that hand-drawn imagery like the matte paintings as backgrounds The models the optical effects like all stuff that you just don't see nearly as much as movies which are like also a lot of white people in I can't wait to talk about that. I have a whole section. Do you? Yeah, what do you have for most 1977?
Um the creatures the fact that the creatures are not CGI the real and you know it's causing suits and all of that stuff I had uh marcomos Cassidy boys. Yeah, Andy. Yeah, all haircut kind of vibe. Yeah, very 1977 You could he could have been on 20 tv shows.
Yeah, ironically. He was on eight is enough in the pilot He played the oldest son uh a show where dick nipat and at eight kids and then got out of the show So he could be in Star Wars. He's like can you please let me out of the contract interesting chance to be star with but that haircut was just there for two years You know who's remaking eight is enough is Robert's. Oh, they're actually Kids Uh he and filbert was in a ob one dark Dual to have more children what's age the best what he got?
Well, so many things intergalactic intergalactic universes. I mean this is contemporary storytelling in hollywood right now Um, iLm the creation of the first studio that is focused entirely on effects princess lea as a fearless hero Not just the damsel and distress feeling is huge. I'm very excited to show this movie to my daughter So I know she will be magnetized to lea and be all about her. Um, what if your daughter's like damn grito Knowing some of her interests get too excited about showing any movie dear kids because they can only just watch 10 minutes ago That's in play Sword fighting sword fighting is never not cool This is a great choice in this movie to find a saber technical right thinking way to do sword fighting Whether it's king arthur or robin hood or the free musketeers or the way that it just like run You know all the samurai movies it just runs the movie history and he finds another cool way to do sword fighting Um, you mentioned harris a bunch of times I mentioned the fast spaceships thing That's like that never really been done before the movie or was like these spaces are going fast He was he doesn't mean american graffiti.
He loves cars And he was like I see the rebel alliance as like hot rods and I see the empire as like cars off the line Made by the major car makers and so I want the movie to feel like hot rod cultures kind of like the fast and furious in a lot of ways That's like a really smart choice at age really well because now every space movie you see fast cars What do you have? Uh, the force being a kind of forgotten religion or spiritual discipline that only like three zealots still practice Like for all the other star wars that we have it's like the central preoccupation of the story And we as viewers are supposed to understand my chlorians and how it works in this It's like now these like three weirdos still talk about it, but for the most part it's kind of been phased out and it's all about industrial like a long-term strength Then there's this all the stuff that when you're watching and you've come across it You're like, I've actually had this in the this has been taking up brain space for 40 years Like the two stormtroopers who are getting distracted being like you see the new bt 16 And I'm just like how do they just like throw that line in there of these two guys bulging with each other or the way that every squadron checks in Like red five standing by like I want to text you on thursday. I'd be like red five standing by the word Gold leader. This is red five.
Yeah, I am watching New York Detroit Well for same for what's the best the guy hitting his head Oh, yeah Which became lower and then the stormtrooper coming in and he hits his head and it became a thing and instead of editing out Lucas added a sound effect to it and it became a whole Yeah, I think I alluded to this but just the literal beats of the trench run Which I think has elements of like movies like the damn busters and other films that Lucas was influenced by But like that clearly is like that's the best we can do with a aerial attack idea So we're just gonna put that in top gun. We're gonna put that I wish I how many movies ripped off even that like I think it's the ending of four different Pilots being like I've lost my confidence, but now I've gotten it back right. Yeah is such a recurring motif. So So The the number one thing that's a is the best to me in the entire movie is Darth fucking beta Like Darth Vader goes from being a cool mysterious villain to a cultural icon that really Now the entire franchise is oriented around so more than anything I got I am on here Death Stars period They put a Death Star in something every two years the lightsaber has become an iconic toy that everyone fucking has It was it revolutionized the sword.
It was like a new sort of new take on it Um, but Darth Vader to me has become so important not just as a villain But as a flawed hero because we get so much more of his story after this that really As much as this is about Luke it becomes about him too And now that might be the most recognizable star wars thing that exists even the voice of James Earl Jones completely recognizable Does it create the prestige TV late 90s anti-hero craze Darth Vader meat bone well, no, well, we'll say it does though is It to me it does have a big hand or plays a big part should I say in investigating the motivations of our villains because Midway through the next movie or not midway through the next movie at some point in jedi luke is going to start thinking Not that I have to defeat this guy but then I have to save him And that kind of changes the trajectory of the entire Three film trilogy. How do you guys feel about introducing the villain immediately in the movie? It's like they use Darth Vader so much. It's like the opposite of the shark and joss I mean the music is there where every time you hear that.
Oh, it's Vader time But he's immediately usually it's like you take a while right before he's introduced Well, it's like the first scene of the film if he's not the villain of the movie though The emperor is the villain of the movie. He's only mentioned It seems like he is and we come to find out and that's part of the Lucas genius is that he He hasn't mapped out like he knows where he wants to go and he's gonna show us the emperor soon If he gets to make another movie and that he is this true force of evil and then when you see the prequels you're like He actually is the true force of evil. He is the engineer of this whole Revival of the Sith mythology. He's really the film history to me Yeah, but darffin darffin darffin He's just a tragic shakespearean guy who's lost his way and you once again You see him first because you're kind of in his story.
You know what I mean? I mean, let's be honest. They are not like an awesome hang. No, okay.
All that breathing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'll choke somebody out there in a conference There you can't smoke darts around him Can't be the worst contest ever Well His eyes are burned to a crisp his ears his eardrums are burned to a crisp He's got no arms.
He's got one leg. Nothing's inside. Just like a husk of something. You think he got down everyone's a mile or no We don't know what happened.
It was manhood. We burned off. Did it burn off? Did it burn off?
They actually we know that I think I'm pretty sure that most of his opinions just burned off But they're about man. I'm assuming that I'm telling you what though Is this like an axle-bron kind of knowledge? I did. So I was successful here and that one was working just fine I have some what's the best including Mentioned the greatest secret probably ever kept in a movie if you knew which I assume Lucas knew all the beats for the first three movies Yeah, and he doesn't tip it off at all, but then when you watch it again He's tipping it off in a couple spots.
We're like, uh, I know I know what you're trying to do there I saw this so When you first see them when you first see the movie I hadn't seen it before when you first watched the movie you go well He's treating layah like shit, right? Every you know, but like layah has a termination order on it And there's a way to watch the movie to where Darth Vader keeps stalling Yeah, he he you could say that definitely that's what I was talking about when Tarkin shows the planet getting blown up And even though he pulls her away from stopping jumping on Tarkin or whatever it is fatherly Like it is there are these moments where it's like something is telling him that although I guess he doesn't know Leia's his daughter until later Right, but we know it's not getting horny because he's having a manhood. That's right These Can you do the alternate cut where Darth Fox life A couple more would say the best Obi-Wan is the ultimate mentor. I just like mentor movies always fun Every Darth Vader entrance we mentioned lightsabers.
I had the wrestler Vader great gimmick. Oh big man. Very phenomenal. One of the greatest athletes of all time Who are your best back at athletes?
Oh like ever yeah like Vader's gotta be out there. So Reggie white is up here Yeah Yeah, I was gonna say like refrigerator parry kind of like oh that's Mova great one is way up there, but like as wrestlers go like Andre giant can move around Earth kind of step your fat guys who actually Guys We mentioned How about the foreshadowing of the aunt knuckle Luke's just not a farmer. He is too much of his father and him The guy goes that's what I'm afraid of he knows knows Creating a distinct world of weird aliens creatures and villains is the best a lot of people have tried Open credits scroll Called right by brag pama. That's right.
I'm surprised that he tried to work in some voyeurism Yeah, that's he could have also written the scroll for the porn parody. You know, he basically made it less nerdy right because he got it short in this a little bit Yeah, he thought it was yeah Uh the carri fisher Harrison Ford a fair during the movie Sure, what's age the best for Star Wars Lord? It's a boy age the best. Well, it's just an amazing everyone thought they knew everything about this movie She was 33 she was 19.
He was married. You think that age the best. Here's what it's the best. Give it.
All right. We're on the same team here Here's what it's the best This they kept this hidden for four decades. Oh, we do and then she wrote this book and she's like yeah I had an affair with Harrison Ford the whole time and they're like well you what but when you watch the movie? I mean their energy is so yeah, it makes so much.
Yeah, I mean he's she's looking at Luke. She's looking at yeah, you know, he could see the It's in the chemistry undeniable. Yeah, uh all the Star Wars parodies all over the place and everything still going The bill marrana. Yeah, well space balls Oh, and then um, I really like this quote from mark amol because he said how he was struggling how Audiences associated with Luke you have that I'm only defined by this part And this is just to weigh in the rest of my life thing and he's told care fisher about it And she said look I am princess leah You princess leah you are Luke get over it And then he said she was able to cut to the quick and see the positives.
I learned so much about her But that's a good attitude to have like hey, this is the fucking lot We were you could be like fucking Harrison Ford is also indian Let's uh, we'll take a break come back with more categories All right. So you are a great shot gordo award most cinematic shot. I have a feeling I know what your picks gonna be But what is it great shot gill kilbert taylor Uh, loop staring at the two stuns on tabbing the binary sunset That's right on the blu ray that have each thing titled and that was I just happened to pause it during that scene And that was what the chapter was called the binary sunset Everything that I was talking about before where like this movie allows you to fill it in filling the blanks instead of him saying like Anything instead of there being like to make characters talking at him. It's just like this is a kid He's looking for a purpose.
He knows there's something bigger out there this greater world And he's just like looking off into the sunset imagining himself getting off the planet That's the farthest from the sarah universe like Sean in the early 2000s after another jetslas Staring out in the long island sound after the blood Anything good would ever happen with the jets we have in early 2000s. We had chat pettington. That's your dinner You was a little bit great shot. I have a few um, I mean there's one where Uh Obi-Wan is on the control panel inside the death star and he's like flipping levers so that they can attack it and create weakness And it seems like the that sort of corridor is like bottomless And it's just a painting that this guy harris and ellen shawd drew he painted this background So it looks like you're in this, you know, vast bottomless Construction and I saw like a behind the scenes image of what it looked like when they shot it versus what the final images and it's like Astonishing I got it just but they didn't do it in a way that was like modern technology It's the same technology that he's like mary poppins.
Um, that is just amazing Okay, but there's like a million versions of stuff like that like the first digital effect that they ever created for the movie was Um when r2 and 3p o leave on the escape pod and you see the escape pod shoot out And he's like the sprinkle star dust basically out of that and they you know Like that's just a beautiful unforgettable image that looks almost like it's documentary or something But it's in a science fiction movie so there's like a bunch of them I also really love the shot of after Obi-Wan gets cut down It's like a wide shot of Luke standing there in disbelief even though there's already a laser battle Like a blaster battle going on right and then he finally like puts his blaster up and starts shooting He was staring at this belief because Obi-Wan chose One chance Obi-Wan leave the weeks on Luke looking up at the the two moons is I mean Is it two moons two sounds of things two cents two cents? Uh the two sounds it's a cool chef. That's a great shot and also you remind it that you're somewhere else you're somewhere other It's important um but then I like I've always been partial to the destruction of alderaan Just the first time we see the death star in action. Doo doo doo doo doo boom and then watching a planet be destroyed It's a good one like so high stakes.
Yeah really rendered well kick cutty pursuit happen is aware for best needle drop Does I mean star wars bar means I have it that that that that that that the main title or return home Which is basically like the main titles good. I mean titles Uh the shot fantasy word for stealth homage that gives every movie nerd a criteria orgasm Did you have one? There are a lot of stick to one There's a cure saw movie called the hidden fortress. Yeah, that seemed like it borrowed a lot from that movie Which I've never seen um it's worth checking out.
I shared with jack sanders a side-by-side of several images that are lifted directly from the hidden fortress You're like jack sis really like oh yeah jack is doing a great job to join a brown hood. Uh He's the fourth jack But like literally I mean I can show you these pictures on the laptop like this is these are moments from the hidden fortress Oh wow My perfect match is you know princess yuki and princess lea and the droids and the two tag along characters in the movie Like he is it is a very overt lifting homage to this curse on we and spielberg and look at this We're obsessed with karasala and he's a huge fascination for them. So without in fortress. This movie doesn't exist That's a great criteria word.
Yeah Uh the chris ryan word with this movie be better if a main character smoked you know i was giving this one but yeah Can you imagine hamo fucking camel like fine? Yeah, just like you had maybe never smoked What would the cigarettes have been called in the uh in the future? Oh, that's a great one. This is a good one uh Like what's it?
What's like a like a Greedle lights The chess racuel and brach landers award for best character name. There's a lot of Vader is a really good name Darth Vader Han Solo Luke Skywalker Luke Skywalker is like trying like a whiff too hard What was he called before that? He was dark dark. Yeah, he's trying to look at you think that's trying too hard But Darth Vader is Darth Vader's just like let's go I'm not Darth.
It's like you guys want to come out then I'm going out with Darth Vader Like who what guys name is Darth you know there's somebody on right now who's a real name is Darth Vader Like there's gotta be some parents who name their character. I think they're like just a do not name list Darth is not his name Yeah, I know but I'm saying do you think you can't get Darth Vader hit us up at the watchable to box See our you have a flex guy Yeah, uh, it's a book about medals award for best quote Uh kid i flown from one side of this galaxy to the other i've seen a lot of strange stuff But i've never seen anything to make me believe that there's one all powerful force controlling everything There's no mystical energy field that controls my destiny. That was what your book quote really? Wow Yeah It's just like No, I mean like there was that i've gotten all of us that's the quaker believe you feel But I always looked down to the one I thought yours would be 25 years from now do not ask me about Joellen The butchers girlfriend award for weak link in the film what he got fan i couldn't think of one okay I legitimately tried to pick a one.
I definitely have one. I know you want to have the more camel conversation right? Stay with right now. So what's happened?
Did you know he wanted to have i've known bill for 13 years I know how it feels about more camel. I couldn't disagree more but i'm interested to hear the takes Not that good an actor It's i'm not sure if ironic is the right word he has become A beloved actor at this stage of his career for a certain kind of fan Because he is like a famous voice actor now and he plays like a lot of villains and he's in a lot of like flannigan movies and things like that Like he he has taken on this weird late career character actor hall of fame quality that is in direct contrast to what he was being set up for To luke yeah, um in this movie. I think you can make the case That he's not great to be around because what chris at the top of the conversation in part one Which is that like he's an annoying teenager, but yes I think I have so much respect for starting him at that point And you know there's a lot of dialogue right now about like the last of us and the main character and the last of us Whether she's annoying, you know and like how like but you have to start at one place and get to another, you know And I think we're very impatient. We want everybody to be pre-packaged.
It's like very cool. That being said There are other people that were looked at for this role That I think it would have been maybe cool. I'm excited to talk about it on casting windows Yeah, I do think when you think about how good kara fisher is and how good Harrison Ford is and you would never leave this movie Going you know it's fucking awesome in star wars was mark camel Yeah, he's I think lucas probably saw him as the system quarterback Who's just like I don't need a lot from I have so much other stuff going on I don't really need to shoot the moon with this character And maybe that's I just wanted to be young and a little annoying a little whiny and then he can grow over the course of the movie But I just the fact that uh, this was the peak of his acting career. I don't think is an accident Well, I mean, I'm sorry.
I'm sorry star wars universe. No, it's great because I mean by the time uh jedi comes around He has got a full grasp on loop and once again Flawless three movie art on say is if you look at where the characters are you have two characters in lea and solo that are incredibly sure of themselves Solo is the most sure of himself character maybe a movie history and lea is Saddle with all this responsibility. She's a princess. She's double agent for the resistance.
She knows what she's doing Loops performance is off kilter because he never really feels like he is where he wants to be And so there's a there's a tension in the back and forth that kind of kids go through he is young She's his the same age as twin sister, but experience has aged her up a lot He's annoying because he always has questions because he's not confident because he's sometimes too earnest I think in that that ham will play so pretty well. So you think I'll step on one cast and win if like kurt russell tested for this Oh, is that too much to start star? Cool the role he's a little too cool. He's too cool.
He's so cool Is it like a matthew bradrick and wargames kind of is that what luke is? The hard part about this and the reason why I think hamels redeemed over the course of the first three films That they make is that he becomes a pretty scarred grizzled person book because of what happens to him off screen But also like the character himself is so much different when he returns to tatoween in jedi then he is when he leaves It's it's a really cool arc. You just have to be there. It's a really ride along with it You're only watching a new hope.
You're like, okay, like that was my least favorite of the main three guys He enters jedi like vader talking about how powerful he is and choking people out But he's he's got to get there. He goes through so much that hardens him to life Did you have a how to staker now? You did it how to stick or I'm not I mean a weak link Yeah, there's that guy porkins who's one of the pilots who has a really tough name and gets nuked fucking There has to be a little bit of like competition for places there. They're really counting on Luke Um, what stage the worst?
Hey, look, I'll just start us off with this I hate this whole star wars for new hope like this was star wars was like jaws rocky godfather Like then we somehow decided we had to change the name. I've never really understood I get it But I think it's annoying. I think it's annoying. We're like doing star wars, which one new hope it's like doing fucking star wars The first one it just bugs me anyway.
What do you got for what stage was there's like only two women in this movie So the big sausage party out in that galaxy right? I had some notes on the uh on the cantina Thought they could have Very long environment. What lady aliens we don't know what kind of cantina they're in. Yeah, like cruising.
Oh my god You guys are assuming With your hair over the green. Oh, it's creasing Uh Wow That's good. What's your best one? You know, I think the movie thinks that it's clear that fascism is bad, but I'm not sure that that's age I think the movie is weirdly, uh, you can be read a different way than 2025 I have a every moment when it's just r2d2 and c3po is like watching jaylin green try to run the rocket's office It's like just post-ep shingoon can you just come in here?
Yeah, get a gun hook from him Um, how different do you think the rewatchables is when the NBA playoffs are on like is it? Most teams that get eliminated by the time the five Um, I was surprised we have a john halleberg in reference yet And Amperoo yeah, it might have been a chance maybe to put in like an margaret or nettly wood Oh wow, yeah, let's put like a little sexier amperoo. I see okay. We have some sort of attachment.
What's little milky. Yeah You try to fuck amperoo. No, I just wanted a little A little bit of money in the whole movie with amperoo and we have 19 year old princess And by the way, one of them is giving you as much sex appeal as possible. I say is your whole band milky Yeah, uh, yeah Yeah, what what so what do they do when they hit you?
They I assume burn. Yeah burn through you I actually had in what's age the best blasters instead of bullets as aging well because it's like you can show this to really young kids You can also just be like you don't have to be like how many bullets does he have? It's just like you get it so the guys get hit and they just go right down, but there's no wound or anything Well, don't let you see in this movie is the arm chopped off. Yeah, I mean It depends right, but the story troopers are supposed to have some sort of armor like it doesn't seem to work.
Not really Um What's age the worst is just for Sean 20th century fox released 20 movies a year and this movie became so successful that they only really seven in 1978 Just lost on some great movies damn good movie. I didn't know that they just hold the other ones Are they just like what do you start to ride star wars thought that director to fuck off? Do you guys have in one stage the word I make a penitentiary three What's the amount of times in this movie where you're like, so that's how they do things in that family between Luke and Leia By the way, which i'm coming back to him. I had to say, but the incense is the stuff that it never really gets over the line She gets on the cheek.
It's not it's not a flaring woman. He's so innocent. Watch to fuck her But that he just doesn't know right like it could happen anybody. Yeah, what are you we gonna hold it against the guy?
Although he was not able to tap into the force in that particular respect. So he was telling him not to tap his sister No, don't do this What's age the worst? So marvel comics Published a star wars comic book series which ran for 107 issues from 1977 to 1986 Why did they stop there's a lot of comics out there I want to make them just I feel like by the mid 80s. Maybe star wars were starting to die down a little bit I feel like that comic book thing could just come back.
They have like a lot of star wars material Um, I have one more big what's age the worst, but what do you guys have anything else? Uh, just I don't know if this age is the worst, but at age the funniest Disney rejecting the screenplay and then buying Lucasfilm for four billion dollars Amazing. Yes, that's it's kind of like taking two cubies I was there the Navi and she'd wear four we got um There's not that much Vader in the film. I could have used 12 minutes some more data left or 16 minutes vader 12 Yeah, probably two of the best villains the last 50 years I think if he's on screen for much longer you start asking if he has penis Now we'll do this moment What's age the worst?
The 1978 Johnny Carson episode scientist Carl Sagan Uh, not a heater. Yeah, but I don't but overwhelming whiteness of the film. Mm. And then uh Another writer named Walter Bremont writing for the African American newspaper new journal and guide Said that uh Darth Vader reinforces a stereotype that black is evil Um, this is a very white movie.
I don't know if you want to do your did this movie need more black people category here I'm gonna disappoint a lot of people probably okay It for There's two things that can be true at the same time. What is that I understand? Um, first of all They answered the question of the film kind of sort of with my dog originally in coming into the next movie But I think that was a response to the Carl Sagan perhaps perhaps now. Um, I Understand that um Particularly in fantasy properties seeing black characters is reassuring in a couple of different ways one It's reassuring because you don't want to think that you're living in a world where when white people fantasize in turn No, black people like that in and of itself is like odd right at the same time I don't think i'm I don't think that i'm in a huge minority when I say sometimes I don't want to think about it And when I'm watching star wars particularly what I want to do is think about a world where all of the handcuffs and the societal Barriers that exist all the baggage that I don't have to consider it.
Okay, I understand why we have to consider it But when i'm watching the movie i'm really not thinking about that because i'm in another galaxy in another world and i'm having a good time being there Good answer it is addressed very amusingly in the movie chasing at me by the black comic book character who gives a speech at a comic On about the inherent racism of star wars and new hope which is a very very funny sequence Maybe one of the funniest things i've ever written chasing at me on the rewatchables list Couple more small ones that we talked about the 20th anniversary when they digitally remastered everything and changed them altered some stuff and how upset the Everybody got and then there was a start wars holiday special on November 17 1978 that lucas kind of agreed through because he wanted to keep You know, there was really no cable rewatchable system back then and you kind of wanted to keep the movie relevant And uh, it's a famous abomination like there's been oral histories about if you watch it Um, it's been taken off youtube then people put it back up. It's one of those I think lucas spends half his time probably just getting copies taken off Get that thing off Um, it has become kind of a kitsch classic in some ways now Beloved it away. Yeah, yeah And then uh the last one I talked about those early bird certificate boxes which were empty boxes that promised the receiver They would get the figures once they'd actually been made They sold for uh $16 at the time and the actual figures arrived two months later I owe use for christmas because they didn't have the toys ready. What a fucking debacle Like honestly like how much money did they lose just on 1978 christmas?
Yeah, being you're up flex category Um, well, I actually want to use my flex category time for my heart of stake actually Board of order That's fine So this is this movie is the trilogy not the movie, but the trilogy is a lot better if luke and leah mistakenly fucking this movie Okay If luke and leah mistakenly fuck in this movie, uh, not mistakenly because they didn't want and that's why he goes to digel love And he is actually he actually banshes himself. We feels it like and then think about luke and leah are fucking and obi One is in the back no Like slow motion like obi one knows he's trying to tell luke not to do it But the dick is just too strong the dog side of the dick and look and skywalker just wants it He's got to have it layers into it. There's a connection. They don't know what the connection is.
Yeah connection is actually the connection Is she's the only woman in the galaxy? Other than his aunt Lucas obviously a virgin he's asking for permission to go to tashi station for power converters like 17 just fucking go Well, you know I'm saying so if they fucking didn't have to deal with that joke Lucas maybe more apt to the dark side the whole the whole trilogy is better a little darker if they mistakenly fuck in the millennial Falcon quick cutaway the Darth Vader mid-coitus Wow you really went for it there. Yeah I wonder if that inspired game of thrones in anyway Well, I'm sure that star wars inspired game of thrones, but even George our Martin was like I would just what if the brother is just a bug I have a demon child that ruins the realm. Yeah, maybe you can't get up ruffle hannah rubenick partridge over acting a word.
Um, I got you Baca How about mark Hamill getting white whiny loud unhappy a couple times. Oh, yeah, there's a couple scenes where allakiness is like god damn it Why did I take this movie? I'm fucking trading lines with mark Hamill I want to ask a sister bear pilot myself. That's one that stands out when he's mad at Han house I Sean do you have a CR thinks Luke Wilson could been Harrison Ford how to stake word?
I already shared one about the absolute desolation of organized religion in this country due to Star Wars I don't know if I can do any better than that You know and also I think that like this is the one of the best movies ever and one of the worst things ever happen I would think it's kind of true. Yeah, not decide too hard with the but her good little event Han Solo I mean we could end the category there. This would be this singularity of if I go back and be like this movie would have been That would have been good. This is fun casting what if I do have a high stake though about Harrison Ford That's it.
This is probably the coolest character in movie history But he is a real cock-blocking dickhead this movie and he basically like as soon as Luke gets kind of interested Leia's like not an homage to the Leia Luke's lost his surrogate father gets one tie fighter gets a little excited No, you gotta be like no it's my I'm only one is not that fun Cassidy when it's the pama was casting Carrie at the exact same time And him and Lucas teamed up and they did all their casting together and look at all the same actors 30 40 day and a bunch of the actors That they looked at for Star Wars ended up in Carrie we mean cat in here ving I walker who was not audition for that would have been interesting Cat would have been interesting he would have been here I still have some cat stock from the late Here yeah, I hit anything old so Hamo is cast over I mean literally all the names from this era mentioned but these ones seem real Robbie Benson William cat Kurt Russell and Charles Martin Smith Who the fuck is that he was the guy who is the guy who is the guy who is the guy who is the guy who is the guy in America? Him looking at him gives you a little bit insight into how Lucas sees Luke though, right? He's not the coolest in town Yeah, but you know even the actor Stevens who ended up in a lot of erotic thrillers said he and Mark Hamill We're both up for an ill-fated TV series called the Oregon Trail as well as a film called Star Wars. I got the Oregon Trail 20 years later is machine and tweet and some skin and Max move on.
Yes, we are worth its Carrie Fisher cast over Karen Allen Filed that one away for Raiders Amy Irving who ends up in Carrie and ends up having a a fair with Steven Spielberg Cindy Williams from LaBern and who was an American graffiti to and then Linda Pearl who was bouncing around and never really found the right thing But then who knows if Jody Foster how real this was but she was offered the role and could do it because she had movies But she definitely was pretty young. Yeah, I almost didn't believe that one Russell audition for Luke and Han Solo He was like stuck age wise between the two. Yeah, I was like three years earlier perfect The casting would have for Hans is Han is tough because you're like this is every actor But also I kid stop thinking about Jack Nicholson is Han Solo if they actually looked at him Well, there's two where the actors claim that they turned it down Which I think like if we were actors I would just start doing this when I hit my mid 50s Be like yeah, I turned out an enveloper. They came then he came to me I just didn't want to do it, but James Con claimed he turned it down and Pacino claimed that he turned it down Pacino is Han Solo.
It just that movie sucks. It's just that it's just bad casting Who was the con maybe there's an incredible hater wig today cuz our SNL Sorry last year. Oh, yeah, Star Wars like this machine is one of them Kevin Spacey is one of them Who else is it was a Richard drive Richard drive is hysterical? Yeah, all of those are great Try to say almost used his voice for I think see 3p hour one of those and he was in that orbit of guy He's in Mercury and then before Al Guinness was cast The the guy who started on the case was Was asked to be Obi-Wan and he said no, thank you.
Yeah, he thought I would sully the legacy of samurai films that he made which was not actually true They thought about Orson Welles for Darth voice decided his voice was too known because he was in a lot of commercials And then because everybody immediately knew it was James Roldran's even though he was uncredited in the movie and then Peter Mayhew and David Prowse Um, we both all and asked which one they wanted Chewbacca Darth Vader and may he wanted to play good guy and press one of a bad guy They ended up doing that interesting choice Best that guy word 50 years old. I got Peter Cushing. I had him Tarkin you gotta be like that's not a guy. He's only I mean Peter Cushing is famous and I'm just saying 50 years So he's like in every you could do 30 you could do I the uncle or not I think the movie is fascinating because in the top six parts you have Extremely well people who are either well known or about to be really well known and yeah all of the supporting players are just like British guys Were nearby who they cast and they all had careers and they went out and doors doing but none of them have that like oh yeah It's not from that thing like you can't even think of their second best role like Peter Cushing was like the lead in 15 consecutive hammer horror movies So that's kind of a hard one.
I know that sometimes we can be like this guy is actually really famous He was legitimately famous in England right. Well, maybe the movies too old. See the know who the deck. Yeah, that's true There's probably a lot of that guys on the enterprise a guy gets choked out by Vader might have been in like a yeah David Morris Down waders word I was in the movie for 12 minutes.
I have a de on waiters award for the collective of people in the bar Oh, oh guys group the other bartender but face all those guys like together You know, it's funny if you if you want to give it to Vader Vader's presence is so big in the movie I didn't even consider it. I actually probably it but I that I agree that I would be my alternate I have my list. I have CGI Java that they stuck into the movie hate it. What I hate it hate it.
I Do is a great linguistically I was so many times I hate that they do it when it's such a big deal to have that character in the movie for one scene Then I went with CGI Java, but if Vader is eligible I think there's a there is a case for the guy who plays Admiral Modi I got to get choked when he's like this station is now the ultimate power in the universe He is really trying to cook in front of the leader after the letter train Recastory cash director city Boston I have a Luke's got a suggestion How about Mark Harmon oh Caught playing at UCLA. Yes mid 20s athletic. Yeah handsome. Yeah, I would buy him Not Charles Martin Smith, you know, I mean so like in the conception of the character Yeah, are you talking about no, you talk for Luke for Luke?
I like Mark, but think about it like that's a Athletic but kind of on solo scoring a little bit. Yeah a little bit Kurt Russell was like 74 Kurt Russell. I think it's answer. Do you have a recasting?
No We're losing Shawn. He's getting tired. No, I'm not I'm here. All right research Han Solo in the originals versions of the script was a large green skin monster with gills.
He's almost more like greedo I don't really understand what happened there. We did all the ILM stuff Lucas a lot of a I wouldn't say a lot of great feedback on him as a director. No Not forget after she'll said gave very little direction and just would say like faster or more intense My favorite anecdote from the set of this movie is like in England if you were in the middle of a shot at the end of the day You were given generally given the grace to like finish your shot setup that you had But the crew didn't like dislike Lucas so much that they were always like now route What was the movie we did where they oh Spielberg a jaws when he decided not to go in the last day because he was so afraid They were gonna do something terrible to him. Yeah, they're from the water.
I like that There's some nerdy movie stuff from this like when Luke says I can't see a thing in this helmet or whatever He actually couldn't and they just kept it in the Chewbacca suit for some reason the trash compactor scene They're in the water too long and it just started to stank in the sun for the rest of the movie One of the coolest things to read about is the the original rough cut of this movie the lost cut Which is the editor was basically assembling something for Lucas to look at and it winds up being very long It's like I don't know how like three hours or whatever and apparently is a lot more Luke on Tatooine with like wedge hanging out You know like American graffiti in space, but then Paul Hirsch and other people come in and cut it way down Mark Hamill said studio executives weren't happy that Chewbacca had no clothes and kept wanting kept saying that he should be wearing shorts Would you want him in pre-fontaine short shorts By going commando he's ready to jump into the Luke and lay a sexy Quickly yeah That's where he would have shined then you would have really been swayed by Chewbacca That's not half our half-asser in a research in case you guys have anything because the next category is blind call for it was Oh shit. Wow. You know he's crushing tape right now. I think this will go right to voicemail, but we're about to find out Sierra is the most excited for this of any gimmick we've ever done on a podcast He might be going to later again.
He's definitely going for sure. Yeah, he probably went early to go talk to an assistant coach He's like looking at this phone right now thinking about it Takes George Lucas No Probably after Empire Now we're talking everything I would say it's after Empire Raiders like Got into the apex known and then just sat there forever. Yeah, you know he never there was never time No, I don't think so George. We're not gonna do that for you like he could do whatever he wanted to this movie I mean, but wasn't was it their projects?
He was trying to go off the ground that he couldn't right what it was in that World War two pilots movie one that he wanted I think do a lot more than he made it right wasn't that right? Yeah, it like took the 20 years to get a date, right? No For a long time in terms of being behind the camera It certainly is because the next three movies to the point of people To the issue of that people have with his directing style the next three movies the performances are wouldn't they're not very well directed It's just fact but you mean the prequels the prequels. Yeah, yeah, I'm like a real people Like not him and then I'm gonna say 81 range The third one's coming everyone's pumped about it raiders comes out as a fucking massive hit and him and Spielberg Evacuation, yeah, right.
Yeah, I think it has created and owns ILM Yeah, I walk a ranch is opening he's doing skywalker sounds like he's kind of like building his own He still has a dog But you can like fuck this beard situation at the end But you can almost I mean like wine he just gets more powerful than relevant as the deal as I was gonna say it's selling to Disney for four That's up there the galaxy apex man I was gonna say there's some way to conceive of like the outer space sagas like you know I wouldn't say science fiction necessarily, but like so sci-fi movies. Yeah, it's apex I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm gonna see movies apex man Laura starters this starts fictional mythologies.
I mean I'm not talking about like books Obviously, you know as far as movies that start incredible lore you have the Terminator You have the matrix has some great lore, but this has spawned a world. That's like way bigger than more camel definitely Okay, well definitely care for sure. Yeah, one two or three for her Brothers next year and then Empire and 80 well she chooses to do with it afterwards is so strange though every non-blues Brother Star Wars would be she makes my next eight years is like such a flop. Yeah, but again I know she's on the like okay, and I think cocaine was just running rampant.
Yeah, I'm sure there was some Some choices that she might have talked into about three thirty in the morning like our lover boy Patrick Dempsey John Williams It's almost impossible to say yeah, he just shatters it every time like superman three years later John Williams a Face Dropping the from your title is it the star wars or the Facebook? Wow, I think it's Star Wars. I'm sorry question. It's a good question now.
I think it's Star Wars. Yeah, I prefer Star Wars to Facebook James Earl Jones I'm gonna say field of dreams. Yeah, I think it came a black American treasure once a dream coming to America Mufasa Mufasa it's somewhere early 90s late 80s early I just became like the fucking coolest older actor. He's he's like he's too important for a voice to be his apex mountain Moonlight crumb They'll come right baseball was a part of us right people will come they won't even know they'll give you five dollars Harrison Ford no, we just say no 20th century Fox.
Yes. Yeah, they they profits one for thirty nine million to seven Yeah, they don't know their stock right nerds Apex map for nerds. I wouldn't say that in 1977 nerds had the most power they would ever have I was in a nerds like I'm obsessed with this movie went on to take over So yeah, you said the nerds catch an SNL. Yeah, it's just running a shape finding out they had other people revenge of the nerds Yeah, it's a nerd.
Yeah, it's starting a nerd sense. Yeah, they're effects man What about movie sound effects the Academy Awards creates a special award this year for Ben Burt who does all the droid sounds You've got Darth Vader's breathing you got my favorite sound I'm trying to tie fighters flying which is like just terrifying every time you hear that like screeching whisper sound That's pretty memorable this movie sounds awesome. Yeah, even now It does unlike It's I think we always say this with certain movies, but like the the wadscreen TV better sound bar that whole era I'm just blowing this movie out absentee fathers Game no you got games up there, but absentee fathers. You know what your son is doing.
He comes only trying to fuck over You know you even know absentee dads as a movie premise. Well, it's not a movie premise But we look at it now saying for I was probably impiring then she keel in the alphabet and bother that's going to Absentee dads. This is the greatest absentee dad story ever It's my time beta comes back to Luke Lucas now a first round traffic and he wasn't before when he was just a little dude on tattooing And give a fuck about me. Yeah, now I got the force now.
I got another dad in my life who cares, right? Obi-Wan's come on. You know, I got friends. I got all of these now you want me.
No, it's not how it works Cruiser Hanks Crews for which part and what year of cruise cruise for Luke around taps I was gonna say 1982 cruise That's my answer my god outside her screws like Cruise it's like the baby. Yeah, yeah, he's filming losing it with you long and make a star worse What do you have? You know, I have it's cruise. Okay, that's gotta be cruisin Hanks now as Obi-Wan would be interesting.
I think there was like a like when Hanks is like in the volunteers. I could see it being on solo Disagree, okay. Thanks to talk cruise. Scorsese or Spielberg Spielberg.
Yeah, I agree What world would Philip Seymour Hoffman have played I have any situation where he could say Luke. How's the peep in Yeah, he just would have doubted up go to hunger games Craig you have a flex category. What is it? Can I quickly go back to Apex Mountain and ask is this the apex mountain of apex mountains for a movie?
Are there the most apex mountains in any movie ever for Star Wars? If you go through it, you have like him half the actors. Yes, it's probably George Lucas holistically villains music the best weapon in movie history Secret hidden movie nuggets sound effects blockbuster franchises. Yeah, great.
It's cooking. Is it the most apex mountain of apex mountain? Yeah, Craig is cooking right now. It's Roger.
Yeah, I'm Craig's Obi-Wan Jack Sanders Craig is actually a perfect Luke. Greg you got a lot of look to you, man. Yeah, I'm not acting here. It's work No, we just work together all right picking it it's time yeah, I think I'm gonna have the most fun with this cuz I don't really know What happens yeah, we're just gonna be like actually Bell in so called that was explained Too much R2D2 and C3PO just randomly eject from their little pod thing that gets out.
Oh, oh she's Hey, we're doing Okay with C. R. And Sean and Van and Craig We're doing Star Wars All right make the case No friends You know like immediately is it going to Obi-Wan is like dude, this might be your only friend like there's no houses around He's invited you in and gives you a fucking lightsaber which I imagine was a pretty cool even on Tantooine and just like Why is he such a brat about everything and obviously like watching Princess Leia video be the like a guy seeing porn for So, I don't know I just think there's a lot of dorky stuff with him I had the figures when I was in single digits, but as I got older I started realizing that Han was was the cool one Yeah, yeah, it's a great day. Great take great take.
Thanks for thanks for chiming in. I'll see you at the later game tonight Yeah Oh That was amazing Okay, R2 and C3PO. What were you saying about them picking it? I'll just start over picking it R2D2 and C3PO just randomly ejecting and landing on Luke's planet right near his house There's a related one to it that the force just drove them to Luke's house even before that the Empire identifies it an escape Pause been there's no life for something like I just let it go fucking blow The theory that Darth is always kind of like holding the Empire back a little bit Yeah, cuz like there's where's one time where he they only sound like four TIE fighters at the Millennium Falcon It's like you guys probably could have taken the Falcon out we could end it this whole thing or another theory that R2D2 is for sensitive What does that mean that are there any drawers or sensitive in some way there's a theory this panther?
For curious and then in some way R2D2 is force sensitive because a lot of stuff that happens around R2D2 that we kind of don't Explain why it works out the way the form the way that it does that the force loves him or there's some kind of you know You couldn't get a drink at the cantina How'd they get on the desk are not the best are whatever the big plan it is which one when they get when they when they come back in And then that pulls them in oh no the Traitor beam and they just kind of let them in and they're like yeah, it's probably here. Hmm. Hi But that's how bad the stormtroopers were they're like they're legendarily Okay, how fucking terrible your fingers like that on Sam the whole thing doesn't work if the stormtroopers are bitter They can aim yeah, they're legendarily well the aiming I think is the nothing There's a lot of only Rambo first blood part two has more straight five feet away shots that just miss right Luke 130 people miss him from right here Yeah, when they're on the bridge that they're trying to swim there about the swing across and their Stormtroopers are just looking right at him and Luke isn't even trying to hide against the side of the wall He's just like what's up? How do you give away locations to secret rebel bases when you're in outer space?
What do you mean like with a homey beacon thing? Yeah, that's like a Google Earth back then No, but they put like little trackers on stuff and they have computers. How do they know where everything is in the galaxy? Who just everybody like NASA's gonna go here go there the galaxy the computers How do you map the big galaxy when it's infinite space?
So we're the right people answer that question. Yeah, I'm thinking is an outer space just infinite but we're in one galaxy So there's a far-wards galaxy that outside the houses yeah, oh this galaxy You're a flat-star was it was the end of it? It's like a force field at the end There's the alleys in there's the arm of the galaxy and then there's stuff outside of there that people don't really travel to so how big is the galaxy pretty big? They have hyperspace so they can they can try round back and forth they can travel in ice beat I was didn't really know the answer is 10 this question.
Yeah The princess's outfit. Yeah, I just think it's way dirtier by the time we get to like the last time I'm gonna fucking garbage dump Yeah, yeah, she's getting battered around like everybody else's she's just like perfectly wait. Mm-hmm. Now.
We're not going to go with that vision of Say I thought we're gonna talk about something different about that That was it's reading That was great, but yeah, I just think by the time we get to the hour 30 mark probably dirt all over the place for her What do you have for an epics? I have a few ob ones memory relative to R2 or Luke Skywalker is a little dodgy there in the beginning I'm ready to do it is like I'm gonna accept when you cut off all of Anakin's limbs and left him to die in episode three And that was the last time you saw R2 so it's been a while but you know you knew those droids The biggest nitpick for me in the whole movie is but hold on though Is that an epic if that movie doesn't exist yet, but we know we give Luke is credit for envisioning all this other stuff Like we give him credit for knowing that Darth is Luke's father Our job is the rewatchable is to treat this movie as its own movie that came out in 1977 So you're allowed to be like Leah's outfit would be dirtier, but he can't be like They're your rules so if you know the answer because I do think it's like if we did 48 hours And now we know Kio's the ice man from another 48 hours, which is oh I see what you're saying Yeah, so now I watch 48 hours It's do I have to assume Kio is the ice man when I watch 48 hours? I think in most circumstances you're right But because the actual world building mythology is such a credit to the movie itself the whole idea of the movie is that is this larger than one Movie all-encompassing mythology. I take though.
Maybe Lucas is full shit And he just made this movie and then afterwards it's like by the way Oh, yeah, I had the whole thing sketched out Why did he just made them one movie when they gave the sides to Harrison Ford and to the to them and the reveal was in there that Vader is looks that Harrison Ford said back to George Lucas Did you just make that up on the plane like did you just make that up because they were trying to keep it a secret? When they gave them the thing that was happening There are people who think that the fact that he had all this stuff sketched out is actually not true It doesn't make a difference now, but there are people who think that that's not the case Well, there's interesting after lost ended and he he wrote a long letter to Lindo Alff and Carlton Kios being like As somebody who once did know where my story is going I really respect that Boba Bond It's like maybe he's trying to tell something it's possible. He doesn't there's also actual nipics in the story Chris Decided a couple of them already But throughout this movie characters are experiencing the most traumatic thing that will ever happen to them and then one scene later Bouncing back and be like let's do this thing or like partying, you know like Leia watches her home I mean that's really Luke see his uncle who raised him or charred remains Home and he's going to the cantina and hanging out over and over again You know Obi-Wan is murdered by Darth Vader and Luke gets on the Millennium Falcon is shooting down tie fighters like Not a lot of emotional depth to the character development in this movie I think he kind of fixes it in the next few movies. It's like they're much more complicated And so we have to have a beat here where they're like sad about exactly exactly, but it's like We're a Maybe just in one of five aater felt like he didn't One I am still after all of these years of being a Star Wars fan unclear as to why I can't know he did Still unclear because he has to do it for Luke to fulfill I think so that he can escape is the practical reason reason and the philosophical reason is so that Luke can go on and be the Torchbearer of the Jedi way the same I guess my thing is they would have a stick anyway because all of the story will go actually the fact that he gets cut down is What makes the stormtroopers turn around because Luke then freaks out and they go oh my god They're getting away.
So I've never I've had this conversation so many times Like actually he didn't case for it as he wants to pass the torch I'll I'll LeBron the Luca and be like this is your team now Luca I'm gonna have Anthony Edwards kill me with a lightsaber right now So I can give you the Lakers. Yeah, but it still doesn't make sense because the best option is just fucking killed our favor He's right there. He's probably could Maybe It's good career move by Obi-Wan because it's like I can either lose this fight and look like a fucking loser or a sacrifice myself Okay, so in the same vein this was gonna be my flex category But I'm just gonna do this because it's part of it picking it. It's it's two different categories crush together Did I skip your flex category the George L.R.B.
2 we pay a word for the character who definitely should have been fired goes to grandma Target Grandma Target is informed that there's a flaw in the largest Department of Defense governmental investment in the history of the Empire the enemy knows How to attack it he insists on continuing on with making the death star fully operational and exposing the destruction of his beloved battle station He loses this is the 28 to 3 at halftime in a history It's a this is a nightmare scenario He should have been fired and then follow up to that Vincent Chase award Are we sure this character is good at their job? Are we sure the death star is good is the death star actually an effective way to run the Empire This is a thing it also takes a lot of energy to run it which we're finding out very expensive It's a thing it's not grand Admiral Thrawn did not want the resources going to No, no, no, no, no, no, no I don't do it. No, I know Grand both wrong did not want the death star project to go forward He had a plan for an advanced TIE fighter that he thought would have been a much more pertinent use of the appropriate used essay of the Empire's resources and at the death star was a waste of money and time and Resources and that it would lead to their room, and he was right thusired is the blue guy with the red eyes and so which which who's the phoenix sense of this scenario who's sorry? I'm talking to this.
Yeah. He made the deal for Brad Beale and he got blown up on the dust star because there's no question about now. I understand the only thing that I really had is related to what Sean just said is on the Luke side of things with the death star Luke bets the entire galaxy out of spiritual force he learned about a week ago. He's like I'm turning off the computer.
I'm going flying. Dude you were on a desert planet. You never heard of the force before. And now you're fucking like oh yeah I'm all jedi.
How much time? That's all that equipment that Luke has. I know they're like he's a good bush by actually yeah like he's just up there. Pull uniform with the rest of the air force.
It's like Randy Quayton Independence. I was getting S16 men. Sequel prequel prestige to be out by cast around touch about this movie did all of them. It's set.
I know a lot of people in the Star Wars universe you know who you are. I've been begging for the all black Star Wars movie and let me tell you why it should be made to piss the fucking people off on Twitter man just piss them off. They get mad every time there's one black person in the Star Wars movie fucking turn do Star Wars Ghana. You know what I'm saying like I'm serious like they get picked it's so mad.
I know people who are very high up in the Star Wars thing I've told them just make a all black Jedi true I'm talking about Star Wars with the Z like it's just that it's just Lando and Mason do Lando yeah base when do all of their people do the whole black Star Wars movie it will be dope it will be super dope there's a plan it would done but why people why can they be a plan on the black I say a great idea it's all these things it's the only thing they haven't done. Sequel's been done prequel's been done for stage has been done the only thing they haven't been done the true frontier that they haven't gone to the Star Trek is all black ass is this movie better than when Jenkins Danny Trey out Doris Berg same Jackson now by our male burning cousins Tony realm are Henry Hill are the main is Chris Collins with Daniel playing view long legs or Wilford Wilford Brimley in the firm I have an addition to this category okay is this movie with Bill Simmons podcasting about it. Yes I actually watch the lightsaber battles and ever since Obi-Wan got brought down Luke Skywalker has an edge and guess what he's just 19 he's still had so many more left. Ryan Ruko looks beyond the force.
I see you mr. Skywalker. Just one Oscar who gets it George I guess this picture sound. William you say just one I'm gonna say yeah the sound is amazing in this movie I would go sound.
Alright probably an answerable questions did they intentionally make C3PO look like an Oscar movie. Oh no he's very closely modeled after the robot metropolis so I think it's just just ask did they make him that gold to remind people of Oscar maybe maybe why didn't you back I have genitalia we don't know he doesn't you might be a hider he's a wookiee and so there many many wookiees did we just cross over for the about of genitalia and so we're characters we're talking about for at least three four we hit two yeah does he have a butthole very interesting what kind of creature are we talking about okay I would imagine a kendau I bet it's like a giant like a bathroom he was inspired by Lucas's malnute Indiana his dog yeah and that dog has you know a lot of fur that is like that stringy fur he's like a dog so close to the bathroom I would say so yeah okay do you wish there were more times and star wars where someone was like I take a piss. Chewbacca Rrrrrr. Halloween 1978 most people dress the same probably the most I got I'm trying to think of another Halloween yeah where there was more people in the exact same costume hmm I'm probably Michael Jackson thriller yeah he like you guys he's a nice little open dog like sure okay but I got um all right then top five sci-fi women hall of fame easy uh Sarah Connor oh night one or two two I came across time for you Sarah Sarah Princess Leia mm-hmm I'm gonna throw a new edition in there is India Wow doing two doing two okay doing two you never really got a she's gonna always wearing that still still suit you know I don't know you're not into it I mean I love it like since it's not Princess Leia's costuming um so uh so when we say sci-fi are we talking about like the entire realm of sci-fi yeah okay so then the Marvel movies come as well do they I don't think so but I don't think so very quick Marvel movies kind of got Scarlett Johansson is black widow okay that's an all time white girl right there doesn't count doesn't count sorry I throw an a from Blade Runner maybe perhaps we're about carrying on some of our features in their TV shows count so you can go air and gray late 70s if I was a bad old network started performances go look those up on you too if I was gonna do Blade Runner though I actually do Sean Young yes yes you can correct I do Sean don't make that though Sean young you can see it you don't know Sean you know no way out yeah I know Sean young it wasn't in thumbs down from Craig thumbs down to Sean I was introduced to Sean young in East Ventura kind of hard to go backwards from there but I got to go back because obviously I'm gonna see mine horn is right horn is being cool oh I want to speak with him oh but Ellen really oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah let's get on what piece of memorabilia would you want or not want from this movie I would want a lightsaber yeah for sure which I can only have one lightsaber you taken I'll be I'll take darth's because like as far as I know darth's lightsaber you know the one that works was the one that takes out Obi-Wan so red one yeah Sean mmm Greedo's corpse huh Hans blaster would be cool yeah I was blasters would be very cool but it's anakin's kind of walkers lightsaber though can I make the case for the thing no the red one no no no no no oh yes I would be yeah right well no no no I would still take anakin's kind of walkers I think lightsaber is the answer but we we ban cars from this category the thing Luke's driving around just to have that in your garage take that to our house that from Star Wars yeah there's a there's a digitally added sequence from when they reissue the movie in the whatever was late 90s that shows like the digital version of the speeder that is so much less cool you know that shows it like moving around in the open world as opposed to the way that they shot in the movie and it's just the most perfect example like you don't need this like the speeder looks so fucking awesome in the practical version of the movie the Darth mask I think I'm trying to think what thing from this movie would go for the most money I'm gonna say category so Luke's got Luke's lightsaber the game worn Luke's yeah the three lights a movie there's Vader's there's Obi-Wan's which we don't really know what happens to him so we better take the fourth show for you I got that like Luke could have grabbed that before he crossed that before he's getting shot at right when he checks on yeah he's kicking his clothes yeah so it's there so I'm assuming Vader takes it as a trophy whatever but then there's the other one which likes a rule would you take of all the three if you had to have the piece of memory I love Luke's I was like mace windus purple lightsaber it's great coach Vince that we're a best life lesson and the force be with you yeah force will be with you Chris Ryan we'll always have good TV shows Chris Ryan trust the force got another one there's gonna be really good trust reach out for the bear you and any green wild we'll have good podcast trusted trust it my son you have a life lesson yeah raise your keys oh wow don't let uncle O and raise your kid I'll let uncle O and raise your kids will come back and they'll take over your empire best double feature choice is it Sith or is it Empire it's Rogue One I have the need villain who's doomed the first one or second the first one yeah Santa planning kind of same thing I like to go outside of the pair beyond with the double feature what about American graffiti oh go full Lucas yeah yeah Raiders would be interesting it would be not be good to go on the movie Harrison for George Lucas hair you really don't Harrison for George Lucas made four billion dollars from this movie I'm saying Harrison Ford keeps this movie attached to like humanity it's a robot and a twerp acting it's together if you don't have he's the coolest guy like in one of the coolest movie characters ever Sean Lucas I mean George Lucas is net worth is estimated to be not touching a billion and nine point five he's got nine billion dollars that's what they estimated that yeah so it was so good for four but he's making money on Star Wars also he's 90s and 2000s that's why you think he won the movie well he won the movie because he created the most indelible franchise in Hollywood history but he also made fucking bank on it too what do you think it's got me Lucas the that's compelling argument for for Harrison Ford but I don't know that anyone in this industry has won any single movie as much as George Lucas as one this movie as it's trying to be interesting can I make the case for would have been better if you went last rather than first I think it ain't very good for him to be a real one line out yeah and filthy wait wait a go man Craig what a time Craig so what do you got crazy Star Wars in the correct Star Wars 1977 I don't know do any of you guys big video game people I'm like I'm not really but Van are you yeah I'll do it what I'm thinking back today back to mountains also I love the Star Wars video games I would say would you say this is the best video games to come off an original movie ever oh so Bond has some good video games but they don't compare it to the Star Wars awesome because you have many Jedi fall in order you have Battlefront start the original arcade game where you were in the tie-fighter right then you have the one for Super Nintendo Super Star Wars I probably yeah for that came from a movie yeah probably yeah good movie slow decent fast I mean yeah it's a little slow I mean there's just like pace just picked up as we move closer to now and that's just what it is the first 20 minutes is a little slow but what I took away watching it again I think I probably saw when I was 15 of course you like him but now I just appreciate them so more when I was 15 I'm not thinking about I mean I'm comparing it to all the other movies I saw when I was 15 which is like probably a better special effects or whatever looking back now the originality is kind of staggering I can't fathom that level of original working now like it's just unbelievable and this is just I know he had influences but everybody does like him just pulling this out of his ass putting it on the screen everything's brand new the world building honestly the closest I can think of is John Wick and it's probably why John Wick worked because it's like just new and everybody can kind of like get into the world and like it yeah and it's why it's the newest action franchise that has like spawned spin-offs and I still around people like it centers yeah maybe centers centers took us in our world but I did too yeah yeah yeah last one of the few times where I felt the same way in a movie that I felt the first time I saw Star Wars was the Matrix the Matrix was like yeah yeah wow that's a good one like they have fought this through completely yeah you know that sense of like I'm in great hands right now and but it's very rare it's very rare I also think it's cool that's cool that George Lucas was like I just wanted to make a movie that was fun he's like if you have to take one word away from my this movie just fun I know he's like the movies trying to say something but I don't think the themes are I don't know I don't know if it's much it's interesting it it's essentially like we talked about Star Wars and I talked to a friend about egos essentially the movie is about my father's and stuff it's very it's not really it's a complicated lore but not a complicated story like not a complicated movie to yeah it's like this is a really it's a great chase good for stealing same with Indiana Jones like I don't know what Indiana Jones is about but Indiana Joe and it's my favorite movie it's just like a feeling and I growing up the Disney rides obviously were around when I saw these movies so I kind of made a really made that connection which is probably different for you guys because they made them as over over time but like I associate these movies with like that feeling of being a Disneyland yes Star Tours is not a great ride and yet I would wait in line for hours to go on it over and over and over again at Disneyland Star Tours I like but I tell you one thing that is a fantastic ride and it was one of the best experiences I've had as an adult man not doing commercials but have you been on rise of the resistance and in in Galaxy's Edge shit yeah that's cool you're in Star Wars Bill you're in it they got stormtroopers everywhere okay you're inside of Star Wars we all went as a regular first family man we had a regular day of Disneyland we did want that it was it was it was I don't tell me close but they closed when we did Star Wars celebration a couple years ago they had like a place where just the media could go and me and Mal and the Midnight Boys we rode in a bunch of times phenomenal phenomenal how do we do I think you got three and a half you brought really good I guess what we've done yeah no but we in Popo went over four okay is that true it's really quite honest yeah this is pretty good I wasn't planning for I mean it's a lot of fun like unplanned to partner yeah yeah good job really enjoyed it are more coming out we got this out yeah this has been the big question is will you do empire will you do I guess we'll have to let the people decide the nerds are gonna get mad about you back up and take some shape for that what else the questions that you're asking about you baka we've asked we just asked them like 92 yeah and as a medium more polite way you know I think this guy go to the bathroom it'd be fun to do space balls next thanks thanks thanks