Start as you mean to go on - insights from KUGU and Nationwide

What clients value most in consultants, and how to set up any independent consulting relationship for success. Phil Lewis speaks with Nationwide's head of media relations Sara Batchelor, and Scott Williams, chief product officer at German scale-up KUGU Home.Join the Consultancy Business community at theconsultancybusiness.com.Mentioned in this episode:Come over to our new podcast home...We're delighted you've found the Consultancy Business Podcast from Phil Lewis Associates. We are no longer making new episodes of this podcast - so, once you've listened to this episode (and as many TCBP episodes as you like!) come over and find us at the brilliantly named 'The Phil Lewis podcast' - at this link: https://podfollow.com/phillewis