What is up daddy gang it is your founding father Alex Cooper We did it we did it. We're here. How's your bike feeling? Um, what do you mean?
I can't myself? Well, you like is it close enough? Oh, I mean, it's right listen normally I do it with headphones So you're it's a little mind-fucking so yeah, so I don't feel like I'm doing a real podcast right now No, I look so much better like this. I used to do headphones I was like it's giving like more ogre vibe because it's just like so I'm like just calling you an ogre No, it does but I feel like I can't well, I'm not leading this podcast you are I can't lead properly if I can hear other things Oh, okay, like do they ADHD?
I you feel like no. I mean I used to be addicted to Adderall, but I think I was just abusing it I don't think I actually like no don't describe me at all. I did it myself. I did it.
That's fair. I didn't introduce you Stossy Schroeder welcome to color daddy. Thank you. I'm so excited.
No, like I know everyone says that but I'm ridiculously excited and this room is So chic. I'm just so obsessed with the color of this the way it just it's just the orange and I got them in here And I was like this needs to immediately change like you don't feel call her daddy vibes from this what is that noise? I fucking claim okay, sorry No, because there has been something happening with our air conditioner recently that it sounds oh and then I don't focus Okay, that's probably should be wearing head bones. How did you pick your outfit today?
You were just talking okay Wait, no, I have to tell you this okay because I haven't stressed out this much about a fucking outfit I can't even tell you it was harder to pick an outfit for this right now than it is to like go on tour Go on a red carpet fancy outfits because let me explain okay. I want to match your vibe You know I'm not here to like act like I'm going to some Fancy gala you could while you're wearing sweatpants and a t-shirt But Alex not everyone looks as cute as you do in sweatpants as a t-shirt and when you're pregnant and you feel like you look like a beast It's extra hard so like it would have been easier for me to just like really like find a nice dress or outfit that she can nice and cool Like maybe like you know a little bit business. I don't know whatever but this these are literally I think this is like $10 from H&M Walked in and I said I literally didn't notice you were pregnant first I have questions about you being pregnant, but I forgot and I'm not just gassing you up like I know pregnant I'm not women everywhere need to hear that you know what if you see a pregnant woman on the street Just like you didn't even look pregnant like you didn't even like it took me a while to realize that's what we want to hear It's true and like the outfit is great because you were worried like am I sitting like can you see my belly first of all like let it rock But also it's because you're wearing all black you can't really see it. That's what I'm here And the chairs are like also who gives the fuck your pregnant.
It's amazing I know but I'm not one of those who I wish I was one of those women that Rihanna that like you know wears that has her belly out I'm like god. She looks so good. There's so many women that look so great like that I've never felt that way. I feel best when I'm in bags, you know, but this bag is looking phenomenal today Call her daddy is brought to you by Dove Have you guys heard that Dove just dropped a Dove reimagined version of the classic don't cha to launch their new alcohol free whole body deodorant?
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I feel really good because this pregnancy isn't during it feels like it's my first pregnancy because my first one was during COVID so I wasn't allowed to leave my house. You know what I mean? So I'm able to live my life this time around I'm gonna work I'm able to travel I'm able to go to restaurants Oh, you know, you probably didn't have anyone being like super sweet to like holding the door no I never got that experience. I never got no and that is like a rite of passage as a pregnant woman I'll be treated like a fucking queen Wow I'm getting it so I'm just like feeding off that energy.
Okay I do love that for you because I do I agree with you pregnancy and COVID obviously probably had pros of like you don't have to leave The house you can just yeah, so when you did look like a beast it didn't matter no one was there Love you so much he says he did oh So how does he handle your pregnancy like what if you like when you're pregnant? I mean he really is great like you I really did luck out with that But he can't like he says that he's like I give you compliments all the time. I tell you how beautiful you are I want to have sex with you all the time. I'm always coming out to know like it doesn't matter I need to hear those things from other women.
I Need to hear other beautiful for mother women. I need the compliments for other women He tries so hard you know to make me feel good about myself And of course I want my husband to desire me and want me and think I'm beautiful and all those things But there's just something about a compliment from another woman that really is what like feeds my soul That's okay. So I know I get what you're saying It's like there's a difference between like men objectifying us where like we get it and like obviously some and also like love women Are pregnant to you know bows like that. Oh so bow is like I look I wish I kind of yeah you talk about Oh, yeah, I don't know why this is brain fog sorry sorry brain fog.
Yeah, no, he's like I want to like I love your pregnant body It's so sexy. I love when you change in front of me I love all this and I just feel gross so I'm just like no I mean thank God because imagine if I like he was somebody who know who didn't like a pregnant body That is actually something I've thought about I've heard women say like he really just like wasn't into the pregnancy thing And in my mind I'm like I don't know if I could be with a partner Yeah, at least fucking fake it But I guess you probably tell me fake it you totally like Matt like my partner I don't even I'm not pregnant and I pray to God I can get pregnant But like if I get pregnant all he talks about it's like oh my god Like I don't have any control myself and I'm like what what yes, but see at least you have that so it doesn't matter what what what side Effect like pregnancy side effect. Yeah, he will still be so into you But at the same time it's a burden because I don't feel sexual whatsoever At all that's like I'm gonna ask you like how do you handle like I think women are great online that talk about their pregnancy But there's a little too much glamorization from what I've heard from some moms of like it's not all fucking great And sometimes you feel like shit about yourself and sometimes it's like not the sexiest that you're feeling and so like Can you talk about the real shit like how are you feeling with your sex life? Oh my god?
No my sec I literally have zero sex right But I will say that I am a champion and I take one for the team in my household And I don't let it go like a week and a half like I will if I've if it's like a weekend, you know three days I'm like I should probably do this like I'm being selfish right now Relatable and I feel like people don't like talk about that like sometimes you got a joss and it's different You're like cooking up with a random guy and you're like I guess I have to sleep with him No, this is your husband it's your relationship. Yeah, I'm aware I have no sex drive I love you and I'm a try and I want him to feel good about himself and it does bond us It's like once we do it and like oh so glad I did this I should do this more Worse with sex you're like if sometimes you're to your head or you have no sex drive that month or whatever it is like I literally can't even get myself there. I know I love him But like I'm not there and then afterwards like we should do that more and they're like fuck you I know you I literally ask you all the time now sometimes it just takes like going through the act Yes, 100% yes, do you have like an alter ego when you're pregnant? This is how I think of myself.
I'm pregnant I feel like I'm I'm Santa I'm not joking. I just feel like this round jolly So I'm Santa throw and throw like for real like I look in the mirror and I'm like everything's round And I'm just jolly and I'm just you know, I'm so excited about the baby then that like and I'm sober So like you don't I don't get depressed that easily when I'm right right You're not like having the up and down about getting hammered one night waking up like I'm like backing up You are like the queen of OOTDs. Hey, I remember literally like back in the day like everyone would start hagging up But you really owned it. You're like this is my motherfucking out for the day I bought a national holiday.
It's a waste of money. Yeah, honestly, that's so cringe actually bought it You don't just get to like own holidays for free Alex. Look how much did it cause? It's gonna be embarrassing.
It's so embarrassing I think it was like forty thousand dollars. No, it was no, it's so embarrassing and you guys would not do it again Okay, I would never just throw away that money to have a holiday But at the time I was like, oh, this is good branding. I was just in like business mode. My book was coming out I'm like I think that this is good branding.
So it's like I'm putting money into my career That's how I felt but no, I mean hold on what exactly that feels like when people buy like a fucking star in the sky Can't we all just point like that one's like what day is it? It's it's June 30th, okay? And it's not like on all of our calendars like Apple didn't upload like so how do we even know you own it like what was the point of Well, so can I say something that like you own it for a year And I didn't know that and so the next year came around and they were like alright You got to pay for it again or like the do I think it was just the same amount of money I'm like you're out of your fucking mind This is a lifetime commitment that you think I'm gonna spend this every year so now technically I think on the list if you were like search the list my name isn't even up there anymore, but everyone on Instagram It's already been hashtag didn't and right all of that. Do you really think you would buy it?
They thought I would like honestly I like for so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed. I'm so embarrassed No, I think it's I don't care people come for me because like I deserve to become for I agree But I think it also gives though a little bit of credit like you really were committed and like you are I also just get like it was $40,000 for a year. Yeah, no a year Maybe not the best business decision.
No, I respect it. No you loved it You know who I respect the people who came up with this business I don't know people who are just who are like, you know what? I'm gonna own a national social media calendar How does one get the authority and were you just like little miss like googling like how do I get my own day? I think I asked like my agents from my public system.
I was like how do I find my own holiday and they want one okay? Well, this does go give you credibility. Why I don't know I just feel like you that gives you some kind of credibility like in the fashion world like you're giving like you're you're Dedicated first of all the fashion world. They don't say oh, T.D.
No, you're right You are I just literally ostracize myself from the party like never getting invited by the 10% But you like fashion. I love it. Yeah, okay What clothing staple did you use to wear that you would not be caught dead in now? Like what's something that you were like oh, I fucking love this shit now.
You're like huh statement next I Rode so hard for statement. I remember that you know what they will come back again Not in the way that I wore them before I mean like they weighed me down like they were it was like they were battle like to wear into Battle like the plates of armor like it was it's insane if you look back at my Interpumples interviews. I'm like who how you did I think that that whole chest that it was that was the outfit But it will come back that's what I was gonna ask you like what's a trend that you're like so not into but I don't really care About trends like it always comes back. Yeah, it's not an actual trend.
It's like this is fashion and it's just what's in what's not sure But like it's gonna come back it does it always comes back. You know now into the point. I love Gen Z I really do I really appreciate them because they have this like anything goes mentality about fashion and clothing that I just really fucking Love because I feel like while they do follow trends They don't at the same time It's kind of like just express yourself and wear what you feel comfortable in and what you like and and I've found what I what looks I like and whether they're dated or not I kind of don't care and Gen Z gave me permission You know I agree with that because I feel like back in the day when I was growing up if you didn't have like the double popped Ibercrumbie polo with like the oh yeah, and like the denim skirt and the leggings and the you're like your Lusier who were nobody exactly you were a loser you weren't in the in crowd until I remember begging my mom like I know This is so expensive but like this is literally for my social equity like I'm not gonna be respected on dress down days If I can't wear that 100% no one actually cares that much anymore No one cares you can get away with so much and what a glorious time to live in you're right And everyone loves to do like everyone's like down for like if it's real actually people like that's like now Yeah, why are you spending like why are you buying national holidays like that's but that's giving the same energy Wait, can I just say this okay? So when you were in the lawn you were there for Prada right?
I was just talking to my hair and make a person about this I was like Alex and Prada is such a good like mix and vibe and relationship You are such a good Prada girly so like I hope that that like keeps going that keeps going and just like builds into just like Something bigger because that was like I would not have thought that neither until I saw your phone No, either me either so Because I just see you just being casual and everything but then I saw you in your looks and I'm like yes I really appreciate that because I will say I was nervous because I too never envisioned like what fashion house would I like jive with the Mose yeah, and when I found the Prada moment it felt so mean I actually felt so comfortable and confident which I never fucking going into these type of events feel confident because I'm a Poser like I don't wear this shit all the time. Yeah, but now product I've started to like buy my own ship from product and be like I actually feel like if I'm dressing up Prada feels right for me No, it doesn't really fit well. I loved it This is like a really random fact that I learned on selling sunset and I don't know if it's true for everyone I need to ask you this okay On selling sunset there was a woman that's pregnant and it was her first time being pregnant Right and she was asking advice from other moms and the other mom was like oh by the way girl like yeah You can't shave your V after like a certain amount of time. I can't see I go rogue.
No literally like this morning I just I guess you just guess I literally feel around and I'm like Okay, that's good to know so like you actually can't see it But then so that woman was like so I just didn't touch it I don't I think it'd be way too itchy for me and then she was like or have your man do it Oh, I wouldn't I don't trust any you know I don't trust him with a razor that just doesn't not sound enjoyable No, you can't see at a certain point. You can't you just have to feel for it Yeah, I can't grow it out It's way too itchy right because that's why I was thinking like at least if you're if you can't see your vagina over the belly You're at least gonna go rogue, but like you're not getting it completely bald You're just getting it down to a place where you're comfortable that you're not itchy. I mean I try I'll forget it But I try to do is I try I can't see shit. I can't see shit.
I mean we've done it for so long that like that's true It's like muscle memory. No, that's right. I do have a lot of women that still write in there Like can you like give us a tutorial like how to shave and like girls like let's Let's not easy like this show you can come here for a lot of things like I like you can like look it up somewhere Okay, and if like you're pregnant doing it like someone with that's not pregnant and you can see that shit like you take your time No, excuse. Yeah, okay.
You ever in tune your time best sellers. Congratulations You little brainiac over there is really exciting when I hear it when I hear other people say it I'm like good like you know, we all suffer from impostor syndrome I feel like all of us yeah, we all do like well You know, I wouldn't have that if I wasn't on the show and blah blah blah and I wouldn't have that if this didn't happen But like you know, that's really funny cool. Yeah, it's no it is really cool And I think it's also amazing that you've done to now when working on my third right now Yeah We how long does it take you right above a long time? I worked on the proposal Six months six months I worked and it wasn't like that for my second book and like my first book actually came a lot quicker to me Yeah, also this third one It's it's harder because like I'm I'm really trying to be the way that I write It's like I have to be specific about like with one thesis Like and then everything spiders from that and I'm just like struggling I was struggling a little bit with what that was so it took me a really long time just to do the proposal I was gonna say like I think there's so many people in Hollywood that have like that one book and they're like peace out I just wanted to say a very book clearly you like really like doing this Oh, I love it And that's why I started like for the first one I was like I want it to be a handbook so that if I wanted to keep going the theme could change So it's always still like a basic bitch handbook to something.
It's just depending on what's going on in my life It's such a good idea. So I want to play a game. Okay, so the whole like basic bit handbook clearly first question is can you help us all decipher? What is the difference or is there a difference between chuggy and basic?
Okay? Well personally what I think I think chuggy is kind of cringe It's like you know like cringe clothing or cringe, you know things that I don't know There's a cringe element to chuggy. I personally think that anything that's basic It's just like leaning in so hard is something that you really love and doing that unapologetically It's like if you really love rom-coms or if you really love murder-docks and just like leaning in and it's like oh god You're so basic but like but it makes me happy it brings me joy It's like leaning into the things that like really bring you joy and not giving a fuck if it's like what's cool Basic to me kind of is a timeless situation where like basic also means that a lot of people though are doing it And it's just something that kind of is timeless. Yeah, and it's part and there's a reason those things are popular Because they feel good or they make you happy or like I'm only fucking spark joy so like I'm being basic Like I can say it you can't say Alex You're gonna tell me if it's basic or not okay, and also you can just give me your thoughts on the topic in itself Okay, number one aper all spritz are you I crave it every day.
That's the worst part of pregnancy the worst part is I can't have multiple aper all spritzes all day every day Dude, okay, I make bow make them so I'm like I'm gonna have three steps And I literally swish it around my mouth for as long as I can spit it out No, I swallow baby can handle a few sips of an abarose braids But like I literally swish it and hold it in there and I'm like oh Good that feels good. I love them so much and I think people consider them basic, but I think they're great. So that's great Okay, okay get ready with me videos. Oh my god So I didn't know what this was and I'm a big tick-tock fan.
Okay, okay And all of a sudden I just kept seeing grwm m everywhere and I was like Grown woman. I literally was like what the fuck is everybody writing grown woman? Like what is this stuff because not all get ready with me videos like the same they weren't all makeup some of them are like picking out So like there was no theme right away and most of the time it's a woman doing it Yes, so like I thought grown woman was the vibe and like it took me like a few months to realize I feel like that it was get ready with me and This is the thing I tried one I put one out like three weeks ago and how to do I feel like the kids loved it Oh, I will say everyone was commenting being like oh wow 2016 No, I was trying to do a thing You know I was really trying to do a get ready with me and everyone's like this is so nostalgic you do your makeup Like it's 2016 I'm like that's because it works for me who cares at least you're not trying to like pretend you're in a generation You're not yeah, like letting the like foundation like letting it drop on your face and like I Can't I can't I can't fuck with that like it kills me every get ready with me that I see that people are just dropping the liquid on their face I like so it's so not appealing. We how do you do it?
I don't do it. I don't know. I don't I don't I don't I'm just interested like how do you do it? Okay, well I take my location and I have a tin and I can pour some out and then I use a hand No one a tin and then I use a brush or sponge and like a normal fucking person and then do the damn thing Do you think they're on to something that we don't know though?
No, I don't either I think they're bored and I think they're just coming up with new ways to do makeup when like what works already is there So like I don't get it the fact that you thought that it was Grown woman. No, listen Alex. I also got a lot of comments from you Like I thought the same thing so there are lots of millennial women out there who are thinking that it is grown I get it. I gr.
WM grown woman. How would anyone just automatically know get ready with me? What what about gr makes you think grown? Like I think it's funnier.
I think we should start leaning in a good grown woman video. Okay Tom Tom basic Not basic, you know what I'm gonna say, but I think it's basic But like I again I love things that are basic But like you can't get any more basic than like the representation of an or pump rules for our form Sure, you know there I don't really because I'm asking for attention if I go there Do you know what I mean? Like I really love it and I'll go there for someone's birthday so I'm going for someone Yeah, I mean, but if I go there everyone's gonna take photos and I'm like no I'm not I get it. I get it.
Um oh Zem pick oh my god, like I really want to try when I give birth You're like I want to go on it now, but I am pregnant. No wait. No the amount of time I've researched today's being like I mean, I think it's safe and hopefully like I think it's good for you. It's like taking vitamins I had a disclaimer like nothing that was said in the podcast medically.
Please do not listen to this But like come on you guys basic anyone who hears about it has to fucking be curious You are a liar if you tell me that you have not thought about it. I thought about jumping on the tree I mean not you don't need it. I mean you like you should think about it. I get what you're saying I think it's this is what I've started to realize and maybe it's just like with age I remember one of my things on here was bone broth and I was thinking about the all the debate with when everyone was like You are like promoting bad eating that like for people that's not realistic and whatever and I'm like why does everyone care?
No, like I say to only eat bone broth for you. She was just being honest with your brother. I'm sorry She's literally just she's trying to be transparent Which is what everybody is asking of people please be honest and transparent So then you can't get mad about what you hear when someone is being transparent or honest So how about Google no Zem pick and what it would be like and I'm thinking about it Yes, I am because you were just talking about bone broth my first pregnancy I ate bone broth for dinner for six fucking months after I gave birth and I kind of don't feel like doing that again I love that I want to I want to quickie. I want to know We love that I love the honesty because that's what I got annoyed where I was like I think people are really getting too triggered like Gwyneth wasn't like everyone should do this She was asked what she eats in a day and instead of being like a cheeseburger for dinner in a bit She just told you you don't have to do it You don't have to do it like would you want her to lie to you and then you're gonna wonder like wait Why don't I look like this when I'm eating a cheeseburger dinner and like you you want to know that it's a struggle for Gwyneth I want to know what to struggle me too, and I also love it's like people need to realize I know the whole world influencers really take it over But like look inward if you're being really heavily influenced by every single influence on the internet.
Yeah, let's totally just a little check Yes, just a little check in it's just be responsible for yourself. You're responsible for yourself. Okay, so it was epic Oh, Zembi. Okay, so she's gonna go on a Zempick.
You're gonna tell us how it goes You'll go on it someone else that's up to exactly. Yeah, and then you're gonna be feel how you want to feel And they can feel they want to feel while they're on the elliptical you're Promoting it that like you're on it or you won't talk about it I would like to to to think that I would be somebody that promotes it and talks about it because again I really do I love when other people are transparent and honest So I want to be that for other people but like God people are really hard People are really hard on that on things like that And it's like do I feel like going through all of the hate that I'm gonna get well Unfortunately, you're on color daddy right now think you're yeah, you know Be the worst is if you actually don't go on a them and you're like jam and they're like that They just want to make you like no guys. I totally probably just Right no matter what they're either like it's not working or it's working and you could have been doing it like organically Yeah, what do you think about manifesting? I'm so basic you manifest I manifest the shit out of life I think I've naturally been manifesting my whole life and just like not know when we were growing up manifesting wasn't a word Right.
Like really yeah way that we use it now Totally, but I think that I've always just been that way and I really I really do fucking ride so hard for manifesting because I feel like What works with manifesting is like you just envision that the things that you want are gonna happen And then you slowly start working towards those things whether you realize it or not True and like that is manifesting. It's like quite simple. That's true. Okay.
Give us an example What's something like big you manifested and like boom it happened my whole entire life I wanted to live in a Spanish style home in the hills. Okay, okay And I when it got to the point where I was looking at at houses like it just so seamlessly Happened and I realized it like wow I'd been like planning for this and working towards this and I'd always just set it And then I was like I should have manifested bigger I should have been like a ten million house Like why didn't I manifest a yard attached to the house like fuck You had this vision and now it's come true Yes, because then I like I saved the money and ordered like I started like or I would accept this job and put that money Wait to like start right being like this is gonna happen for me So I need to prepare for it when it does so kind of like back in the days They would just say like a dream you have Now we have like a better word that's like a little bit more like proactive basic as fuck Okay, are you watching reality TV shows? Well, I just recently started watching Dude were you not watching it? No, and then what's up?
And then once I'm scared what happened I was like I got I didn't catch up, but like I will I've I've seen like the last three episodes So like I'm like I should probably I'm interested I want to see that whole drama I can't imagine how annoying it was for you because like how many people wanted to hear your take on it No, you have no idea in fact Like it's interesting that you say that that you can see that that you can see that would maybe be annoying like when it happens Like it's like one of those things I joke about this it like you know It's like when there's like a natural disaster a world event like you never forget You were that day like you could be a worker at school and then like you stop what you're doing and like you get with your coworkers You find in years fucking TV and then years later you're like I'll never forget who I was with and what we were doing That's how I feel about fucking scannibal like truly I can't imagine like what was your take well at first I was just like I I don't think that this is real but then I'm like this is I'm start texting the people that I know obviously And I was like like I mean just like I think everyone's the same as everyone's reaction like holy fuck And then I was like I feel like I'm thrown right back into something that I've been away from yeah For so long But it's it's like is it my place to be a part of it or is it not my place I don't know and then I have all of these people just DMing me I mean I've never been DM'd more about anything than I was about like I'm in it or commenting and attaching or tagging me And it being like I'm gonna need to stop you away And I'm gonna need to stop you away and I'm like but I don't know if it's my place anymore I've been out of this for so long that like I think it would be kind of fucking weird if I'm like going on my Instagram me like this is my take on yeah, and like it was all it was it's been kind of like a mind fuck Which is weird to say because it's not even happening to me I kind of agree and I that's what I when I had Ariana on I was like it was actually so weird because he mad people Like fuck like we kind of wanted to have her kel on and I was like this is why I also hate the internet so much Because whenever I have villains on the show everyone's like canceled when I don't have them on then they're pissed When I have them on their piss whatever but did you ever like Tom Sandoval? No, I mean no when he never liked me and that's the thing you know I will say this not being on this last season It's like my my talents would waste Because I could have you know this was when I could have really just like get it to him and been like I'm always new Right, there's got to be something that everyone was seeing in him But like he I feel like it's always been a slime ball Well, that's interesting that you say that just because I felt like he was always so beloved And so and I would even I would say to my producers I'm like when is he gonna get the edit that like I feel like the rest of us see uh-huh Why does he keep like getting away with being just this dude who just wants to like give people things and help people out me in and like all of that I'm like that's not what I'm saying I'm seeing somebody who's constantly like blaming others for things and dredging things up from the past and like and just deflecting constantly Yeah, like if like the rest of us look bad then he looks good and right and I've always felt that way And so yeah, you know the fact that I'm not on it this season. It's like fuck. Yeah.
Do you miss reality TV? I miss reality TV at times like I loved filming I love like that was like it was like all my 20s were spent doing that and you know I love the camaraderie of it and I loved all my producers and the team and they cut like it's fun Right, it's really fun, but you know There's something about like being out of it for so long and and I watched it like the success of a show is like directly tied to How badly the cast hurts each other and that like feels weird. I agree It's like I think that's something that we're struggling with now is like watching it because there is social media I I feel like people are having a harder time like actually choosing a villain because it's also weird of like but then that person Life is actually ruined and social media and people are getting canceled and people are getting death threats We're like back in the day You kind of like the never saw the people and it was like, yeah, that was a great show Yeah Now it's like a little bit like oh people have to be really calculated to fuck shit up and like how how far people going to ruin each other's lives And it's honest is it real like I don't know yeah, it's just it's dark like when you really think about it It's fucking dark right like I think there's a I think you have a good life now outside of it It's almost better to be nostalgic for it than be still in it and like look what's happening right now No, I think so too because I think you know obviously I get asked all the time like would you go back to reality TV? Would you go back to Vayner Pumbrols all that stuff and I'm like I don't I you know there might come a time when I'm like oh This makes sense this type of reality TV that makes sense for me or whatever and this is a reflection on what really my life is like Yeah, you know it might be a little more boring than what you're used to see But at least a little bit more authentic where you're not having to like really create that character again Yeah But like I don't think I'd want to put my family in a position to be in something where like again the success is tied to like how much you can hurt each other And like I just don't I don't it's not like a healthy place to be like it's not good on relations You can be in the strongest relationship and and I mean if you think about it Like the end of Pumbrols is like who's betraying who who's cheating on who who's being shady and like sometimes they you know Things are invented that like never even happened So to put that stress on a relationship and then if you have children on top of that I'm just not sure that that's like the healthiest thing for me I don't miss it.
No, I do I like it's almost like reality TV to a certain age should be appropriate because actually your life is toxic and chaotic Like season one It was like you were so like in the best way unhinged and like saying shit Like I was like that with my boyfriends when I was in my late like early 20s then I think when you get to a certain age It's like you're just fucking your life up. Yeah for camera. Yes. Yeah, who are you friends with still from the cast?
Okay, he's one of my best friends. Oh, well, she's um, her first godmother And she was my maid of honor and I'm still really close with a lot of and honestly the producer It's like I'm I hang out with the producers more than most people like they're some of my closest friends really Yeah, so it's so weird to like be hanging out with them and we kind of don't talk about it that much Yeah, I mean like the show part of it But now that like scan them all's happened you would talk about it a lot more I guess How do you feel about how much hate tom is getting online? Um I mean, obviously I've been in a position where I've received so much hate before and like that's I don't like we were at like in society where like that's how we punish people. It's like it's like it's like emotionally beheading people You know what I mean?
And it's and who's to decide What the punishment should be like who makes someone the authority on that like what makes this person on their computer The authority on what they think is enough hate for him to receive right? I don't get down with that like I really I don't like it like do I like tom sanoval? No Do I think what like what he did is disgusting and like fuck him? But like I see now I feel like I've been adding to it There's a level of like if you're being asked about it, you can talk about it I think everyone with their friends can talk about it But I do think there's like a level of We're just as bad like people that are going out of their way to comment on his photos or something and be like go fuck and kill yourself You're so that it's like that it's like that that no one's like let's just like not do that as like a group of people It's just not you probably didn't say that fully to like even your dad when you cheated on your mom And you guys have a divorce family now like there's so many people that have gone through sadly something very similar like cheating affairs Like that it's awful that like we don't know these people so yes They put their lives out there for us But like at what point is it like talk shit to your friends in your group chat But to actually make an effort to like go away outside of his house or to go make comments It's like let's and it's some again at some point like that is how people become incredibly depressed Yeah, and then suicide on it's like how would we all react if we knew that that's how it ends up yeah Yeah, how what it just it's not right You were obviously so different back in the day as we all are of like in your early 20s versus where you're sitting now on the show You were probably one of my favorite characters because it was like I was watching a scene this morning I was trying I was like telling my friend I was gonna sit down with you I'm like no you don't understand like no one was more iconic than Stossie like she would go into these like rage blackouts Basically that looked like it on screen where you were just like I am the devil mother fucker And like just the show you said was like so gold and I'm like are you gonna ever let your daughter watch the show?
I can't hide it from her forever like so of course I honestly just hope she learned from my mistakes like I hope she sees it and cringes and it's like you were fucking awful And like I don't want to talk to you for two weeks and I'm like fair And then she just literally goes you know that just swings her in the opposite direction And she just wants to be this like lovely kind child but like that's fair, you know Okay, how would you describe yourself back then verse now? Does only maybe that didn't wash the show? Didn't know you oh my god. I mean oh my god.
I think So incredibly selfish like I still have selfish tendencies like 100% that's always gonna be personality traits But like I really truly thought the world revolved around me I thought that everything that I was going through mattered to everyone I just felt like what I had to say was so important I was also one of those people that's like I just tell it like it is you got to just deal with it And now that I'm older like I don't like that about myself and I think that's such an overrated quality Because all you're saying is like you don't care about how your words affect other people So like sometimes like it's good to just think before you fucking speak You know it's like called being polite and gracious True Like I just like and there's little people that like you know are in that reality world tv world that are still like that That are just like why tell like it is i'm honest like if you can't handle the truth And like i'm not for you and i'm like but do you really want to be that way? I get what you're saying about like holding yourself back for maybe speaking about certain things But again the environment that you were in like that is what would make you a better person on reality tv Yeah, no, it's like it's almost like you were rewarded when you would say crazy shit It was now it's like when you're in private with friends Maybe we don't bring that into real life, but I get what you're saying of watching it back You're like why did I say that's how I feel about when I look back at my the earlier days of my show I'm like why did I say some of that stuff? Yeah, that's a life Yeah, no, that's true, but we just happen to be like recording our yes and we were rewarded for it Just like you were rewarded for like things that would come out of your mouth It's like that's that's how we're paid totally to say crazy shit Yes, why do you miss most about being in your 20s? Being selfish Leading into it like right and like not knowing that it was wrong right?
You know, like not yet the douche and it's like the not knowing any better and just really living for myself But at the same time, it's like I am such a happier person not living for myself Like as like fun as it all was to be reckless and selfish Like I am so much more at peace and such a happier person Now that I'm not like that I get what you're saying like I was thinking about that as I wrote that question today I was thinking like okay I I am 28, but I almost feel like I'm already 30 and I am like my earlier stages of my 20s I feel like I thought I was having so much fun in the toxic relationships and going out and drinking getting fucked up and Blowing out and like jokingly waking up and having all my friends in the room be like I just ruined my life and that's also like life But there is some different level of peace you feel once you get over that hump where like I don't wake up with that anxiety of like what did I say to that person like was I like mean like did I fuck up like did I do So like I don't know it's like calmer it is I mean there's like a reason that like you know elderly people are like my idea fun Is like staying in like watching like down to nabby It's like because our preference is changed as we age true and like I agree with that staying in watching down to nabby It's like the most fun you can have you often hang out with elderly folks I should I should find myself a pack of elderly friends and they like come over one night And there's like seven people that use like when and picked up from the elderly home I'm always down for granny vibes. I do love granny vibes too. Um, what do you love most about being in your 30s? In my 30s.
Oh my gosh I think that I've learned that like the power of saying no to things and and not caring about like Well, if someone give me mad at me if I'm not going to what they just asked me to do or if I say no to like a face time Or like I don't respond to a text message Like I've priority as much as like I it's funny that I'm saying this because it sounds like I'm being selfish But I'm just prioritized my my happiness and well-being and I know how to do that And not worry about like well, someone's so gonna be mad at me if I say no like I'm allowed to say no I'm allowed to say no Yeah, you are I love that too because there's like I got what you're saying It sounds selfish, but there's a different level of maturity of like a freedom that you get instead of feeling like oh my god But it has to be calculated if I don't text them. It's because I'm like being mean This is actually I'm not being mean. I'm just there's just things that I don't want to do Yeah, I'm just kind of busy and I don't want to do that or like I'd like to stay home with my daughter tonight Like I just like it's not for me and honestly I don't even owe an explanation. No like knows all I have to say What's the difference between Stossie hammered in her 20s versus Stossie hammered in her 30s?
I'm to the beginning of September. Oh, it's a wild three fucking months. You got this. Um Well, I would fully blackout in my 20s like I wouldn't remember things and and and I yeah I wouldn't remember what I texted I wouldn't remember what I said it was Super emotional now because I have a kid.
I'm not allowed right I can't it's unfortunate But I can't let it get too far. So like I honestly I feel like I don't have that much of like a personality shift with my drink Does that make me an alcoholic? Maybe but I'm like I'm kind of the same as I am right now. That's good.
That's good. Okay. Love that It's just like you have you're just having a little bit better time. Yeah, like I'm just having a better time That's what it is.
I'm just having a better time. Yeah, because like I'm not getting obliterated right You're not getting full blackout. That's fair. Um speaking of being drunk You talk a lot about dark passangering and I think a lot of my fans may not have any idea like what does that mean like can you explain what that means?
Yeah, 100% again I mainly did this I did this like all throughout banner problems, but like it's became a thing when I started dating Bo, okay? So I would go absolutely psycho on him like I mean breaking phones texting him 73 times in a row yelling screaming threatening things like violence, okay? When I wouldn't get my way normally it was because like I would want to leave a party early because like I grainy vibes So like I'd want to go to bed at like 11 and he's so social and he would want to stay out later And I've always had like a trigger when it came to that because Honestly, I feel validated now because it's like shady things in that group of friends always happen after hours So I would start freaking out like what is why does he want to be out with my friends and not coming home with me? And I would go just insane on him.
I would it was like that's why he would call it the dark passenger It's like I would literally see red like anger is like the only motion that like overtakes me I see red I can't control it I can't stop myself like that is what the dark passenger used to be But again now looking back in light of like, you know, scan of all that I was right to dark passenger I would understand that I would go to the same I would say as you were describing that I think it's totally understandable If your partner for like one night occasionally is like, oh my gosh Like no, I'm having so much fun with my friends Like I want to say out if your partner every single fucking time you guys go out is always lingering and you're going home alone Biggest red flag, you know what strange. Yeah, it's so true. Why would you want to stay and not come home with me? Yeah, like what exactly I can't imagine wanting to like I get it if like I'm having all my friends are there And my fiance is like I really want to go home exhausted I'm like fuck but like I'm having so much fun with my girlfriends Yeah, then I'm gonna stay out occasionally But like I don't think I've ever been like I desperately want to say at this party I'm not single.
I'm not looking for dick like the dick I have is going home Like why don't I want to just go home with them? Yeah, no, thank you for validating me right now But don't you think for like a lot of people listening to this probably are like huh like I have this a lot with my partner Like they stay out so many more nights than if I'm going home alone or like they're going out without me all the time like I guess to each his own I personally wouldn't be down because I just wouldn't understand like why would your partner always want to be out without you? No, I completely agree with that and that was always my argument What is it that you want to be doing like what is more fun than just like going to sleep with your No, and I also get the trigger of like if you have ever been cheated on or again And that's what happened like you know when Kristen and Jack's like season Yes, two or whenever when like they they did their thing like that that was always like after hours after the party after I had Gone home like so nothing good happens after hours So like it makes me it made me feel so weird when bow would want to just stay out And so that's that's when we put a name to the dark passenger But the dark passenger can really just like it means like anytime you just literally see red and like anger is the only thing and you you can't reason There's no logic. Yep.
I feel like you had a lot of that for like birthday parties Yeah, because I I want to relate to you here and I can't I want to hear your explanation like what your birthday means to you Oh my god, I'm gonna disappoint you so much right now. Why okay? So the first few years of anor pumperals like 100% I was a birthday beast. Okay, I was so obsessed with my birthday I have no idea where it came from.
You know what? I blame the fact that I am a summer like baby And so like I never got to like really have birthday parties there Like where all the people could come so like I like made it a much bigger deal as an adult or something But like after the first few seasons of anor pumperals I stopped caring. I got it out of my system That's great. Bravo would never let me stop caring I was like no, but like this is this is a bit this is like your this is your thing Like you are people relate to this is like you're you are the birthday queen and literally to this day people come up to me Like 50% of the time they're like either saying the quote about the devil or like Pinot Grigio and the other 50% of the time It's like thank you for making me feel good about my birthday I remember watching it and like to people that didn't watch those seasons like the rage that took over you It's like it's my fucking birthday sit down I know and like be present and I was like I loved watching it But I don't relate to that and so I was like I wanted to hear say I think it's great you're over it Yeah, for your birthday now.
You don't really care. No, I don't really care I think I was just always just like channeling main character energy, you know Like when you when you're trying to have main character energy, you need to care about your birthday main character care about the birthdays It's a whole month It's a whole thing Yeah And I think like that actually for reality TV worked I think on Instagram It's annoying as fuck when it's like totally is like my birthday month We gotta stop 10 days for my birthday and like no one gives a fuck it's not countdown like no one cares No one cares. Okay. Okay.
We can we relate on that now. Okay. Um, do you secretly miss a little bit of drama in your life? Now you don't have reality TV.
Yeah, sometimes I know I say this about a lot actually I'm like you know what we should get in a fight and I should our passenger because it would just like make me feel so passionate That would probably make me funny. I get what you're saying like a little a little bit a little friction No a little bit. I remember when we were in Vegas and December actually when I conceived No, we were walking past the sign for absent. Have you ever been in that show?
No, oh, it's so good. Yeah, it's really good And I was like oh my god, but remember the last time I saw absent like I pulled on dark passenger on you I was like we should do that. That'll help us make a baby Stop and he thinks I'm insane and he thinks that's so unwell But like I just think that I think makeup sex is fun. I agree I think men have like a little bit harder time like playing the role of like we're fighting But it's not really like and they're like I don't understand if I am trouble like stop 100% and they get scared like I try to do it with my partner all the time like just light little tinges here and there can be fun Yeah, all the time but like a little like I'm like we've been so good I want to be like I want to be scared that I'm gonna lose you, you know I'm not like let me just pretend I like guys can't get there No, but I kind of okay Did you ever at one point like bring your trust issues in your past into your relationship that like it really affected you guys?
Yeah past the dark passenger like staying out late was there anything else? Yeah, well, we know we started going to therapy like really early on into our relationship because I had all of those freak out moments And I just didn't trust him and he didn't understand where it was coming from because he was he had never given me a reason For me not to trust him and we had to like talk through it And the more like we went to therapy the more than he was like thank you so much for articulating this for communicating this because I Understand that must have been really hard to have like this happen to you to have your friend do this to you to have You know other times and I've been cheated on like I get it now and like then we were able to work together But like yeah, it really affected our relationship. Yeah, I love it You have openly talked about like couples therapy because I think they're such a stigma of like what's wrong with your Why everyone be going this early like why because that's when the relationships like you Make or break honestly and you're coming into the relationship with all your separate baggage So might as well get it like worked out right away great. Okay, your relationship You've talked kind of about how like you have very different sex drives with bow and everything give the girlies tips I'm like how do you keep things intimate without at times being actually physically intimate?
Oh my honestly, I need the fucking tips I think I think listen I think that bow and I are really good at quality time Like we we talk to each other like we we spend time together like we were really good at parenting together Like I know that doesn't sound romantic But like when you're aligned in how you view things like that like when you get into a relationship with someone you get married To someone or you decide to have a child someone you better really fucking like that person because when you have a kid y'all are in it You're fucking in it 24 seven like and so they're gonna be days that are kind of boring And you better really just like being around that person while doing all of them and not in this mundane shit Yeah, that's such a good point Like I was thinking about you and like having watched some of your relationships Very toxic in the past to then like bow seems like the complete opposite of like stable normal romantic loving sweet like in the beginning to that freak you out It didn't freak me out But I made it what I did with him is like I made a choice Like I was aware of the fact that I was changing my habits like everyone that I've dated in the past It was kind of all the same like exciting and like passionate right from the beginning like just feeling like you know That feeling which like ends up being toxic honestly 100% and so bow was kind of everything different You know I mean it was different than anything that I dated before and I went about it both of us did really slowly And we casually dated and we dated other people and we just really got to know each other And I think that that's like what made this relationship so solid is that like we trusted each other There was like constant communication constant like getting to know each other But it didn't know nothing about him scared me because I knew that I was doing everything different Yeah, I kind of also had I mean I think a lot of people do you have those like toxic relationships But I think at some point people always write an asking like when will I be ready to like not how I know when to not go for the toxic You just kind of know you know when you're done Yeah, you're totally like I don't want to deal with it anymore And I think there's like something like really overrated about the like love it for sight thing I still have friends that like you know or single and will ask me like what should I do and like well You write someone off if you don't feel that in love feeling that excitement right away But like that's kind of overrated and like we don't know people right away. So right so how real is that feeling right? It's like there's a difference between going on a first date and actually like vibing and being There's definitely something here. Yeah, obviously you have to have attraction and you have to vibe Yes, the feeling of like the butterflies But also like anxious and like he's not texting and like waiting and like playing the games and like being so calculated And like well like that shouldn't be happening because that's like unhealthy.
Yeah, but that's not enjoyable Exactly, but I think when you are doing that for so long You can get into this rhythm of then normal feels boring And I think it's like I got to a point where I'm like actually toxic became so boring to me I completely fucking agree toxic is boring is boring because it's so transparent I'm like and then we're gonna fight and then he's not gonna text me And then I'm gonna not text him and then we're gonna fight and then we're gonna have this crazy sex And then I'm gonna feel insecure and then it's just like this and you're never able to like I feel really happy today I'm a nice Wednesday like I know I have that yes and not just I get it I won't say to anyone in their early 20s or in their teens right now like you got to go through it You do have to go through it No, I feel like it is fun to go through it once or twice But it would just be nice like if you can if you start to feel like you're getting fed up with it You have you have to also change your ways. Yeah, like that's just kept How did you know about was the one? Because I could completely be myself honestly like I felt like there was I never had to watch what I said or what I did Or I never felt insecure in that way like I felt like he loved everything about me And he but not just loved it. He would like champion.
Yeah, like he was showing to just like me being a basic bitch That's like so not a dude thing to do to do like yeah, you go like you're basic by yourself You know like I love it just like really accepting and a cheerleader And I think that's what I realized like I really want that for myself totally totally No, that's so cute Like obviously only get to watch her like slightly through Instagram But you guys look like so happy thank you and it's just like really cool to see like again I literally sitting down with you the best version of like a whole person I knew was from season one to a day and like watching those seasons I love that part of you But it's also cool to sit down with you and I get to know you as like a mom and a partner and like just I don't know It's like you're great. You like got it together. I know I feel like I got it together I think I do. I think so.
Wait, so you're on tour. Yeah, and Kate went to one of your shows I and she was like it is so crazy Like she sells out everywhere You are just like so personable on outgoing and everyone loves you and like all of your fans are amazing And she was like they're like the nicest girls in a room just like loving life being so happy either Do you like touring? I love it That was like the one thing when COVID happened that I was like if I can do anything ever again I like please let it be touring like I really love it. I just have the whole process of it not just like creatively putting together It's like challenging.
It's like fully challenging myself to do something that's so uncomfortable like putting together like a set Like where it's like I'm not a stand-up comedian But like I have to be for a second of course I have to act kind of and then write something for myself then deliver it and hope that people find it interesting Right and then put together segments and and you know Just I just love the creative process of it And then I also like the whole traveling aspect of it You know like I love going to different places and seeing smaller towns and meeting people from different places and checking in A hotel's I don't know I just I really I love touring I give you so much credit because I don't think people know how hard it is It is fucking ridiculous how hard it is your show an hour and a half to have acts and yourself and everyone entertaining people for an hour and a half A lot like when you think about it, like I'll always like when I'm watching everyone leave the theater Like I'm in my car and like all these people like spent their money to come here Like they got babysitters they took oopers like they they came here So like if I didn't deliver like that's I'm letting them down You know I mean it's not like they can just they're at home flipping on a television show It's like they went out of their way like and I appreciate that so much that they put in that effort to come see me So like I the pressure is is is on it's there But I get nervous to go on stage now or no There are when I know people in the audience and so how many cities you do? I think we're doing like 25 I think but we're over halfway done I think the hardest part now I realize this is and when I do this again I'll plan it differently Yeah, I can't be gone like six days at a time I miss Hartford too much like so those last two shows like I I kind of just like end up not caring because I'm feeling down I just want to go home and like be a mom And so like I've realized that I think that the next time around I'll be like okay like three days Yeah, then we get home like three days then we get exhausted by being pregnant and touring at all. No, okay Let me tell you something this is gonna sound extra alcoholic Okay, because like I haven't sounded alcoholky enough this time But I was way more low energy and tired the first two tours that I did before COVID because we would Drink and have fun You know I mean like we have like bloody mary's on the plane and the drink rose a while we're getting ready and drink backstage And have a girl's puts is on stage and I just felt tired because of that now I think I have the most energy out of everyone that I'm traveling with because I'm sober We know I actually so get that like you would just keep drink. I would do the same thing Yeah, you just keep going so now I'm sober so I feel like I feel sharp I feel just way more alert and with it and quicker and yeah, so bright it really suits me It's just not fun You're like I know it's for the best for me, but like the minute I have my child I'm back on my show 100% I think a bra's breath brought to my fucking room right after I go No, Bo literally brought me he made spicy margaritas in the hospital for me And he's gonna do that again The fact that you said you swish around an aperal spread and just hold it there I feel like that's why I'm gonna have to do it by for good for me Or like a really good red wine like I'll like I'll have a little bit of red wine every now and then like my doctor literally says It's fine to like have some fusiness right everyone calm down I'm like I'll leave it in my mouth Feels like for three and a half minutes because you just the taste I miss the taste I get it What is like coming up in your life?
So you're writing a book you're having a kid I actually love how I didn't even have to ask you you're writing a book you're having a kid and you're on tour Yes, you're kind of thriving and I have two podcasts so like how do you do two podcasts? I mean when you're the other ones with with Bo so like it's easy for us to just like make time to do it So it doesn't feel like it's as much too much. Yeah Your hammers We can't Do one next time we like actually get fucked up. Yeah, and like see what comes out of our mouths Oh, this was like one of my favorite podcasts I've ever done This was so fun.
I'm so happy you came because I had an idea we would be vibing We I also feel like we never shut the fuck up. Do we have one breath of silence? We were like Started but I guess it's a good podcast. Yes.
Everyone's gonna be like you guys are so fucking annoying. Yeah, you guys are All right, I don't think we're talking over. No, we're two professionals. Yeah, we like right as you were finishing I would pick up.
Yeah, I think we had a good time. No, this was I'm not joking This was one of my favorite podcast I've ever done like I really just had a really great time I had a great time and I felt like I really could just relax and be like a normal fun conversation That was just happened to be filmed for millions of people to watch. Yes. You were so fun.
Thank you for coming on. Thank you. Oh my god