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EPISODE · Mar 25, 2026 · 34 MIN

Stepping Back Won’t Save Us with Andrew Mclennan

from The Heidi St. John Podcast · host Heidi St. John

There’s a growing belief that if America just pulls back, we’ll somehow find peace—but history says otherwise. Today I’m talking about why retreat creates a vacuum, what fills it, and why our influence still matters. Andrew Mclennan joins me with a perspective from outside the U.S. that might just wake you up.Show mentions: http://heidistjohn.com/mentionsWebsite | heidistjohn.comSupport the show! | donorbox.org/donation-827Rumble | rumble.com/user/HeidiStJohnYoutube | youtube.com/@HeidiStJohnPodcastInstagram | @‌heidistjohnFacebook | Heidi St. JohnX | @‌heidistjohnFaith That Speaks Online CommunitySubmit your questions for Fan Mail Friday | heidistjohn.com/fanmailfriday

There’s a growing belief that if America just pulls back, we’ll somehow find peace—but history says otherwise. Today I’m talking about why retreat creates a vacuum, what fills it, and why our influence still matters. Andrew Mclennan joins me with a perspective from outside the U.S. that might just wake you up.Show mentions: http://heidistjohn.com/mentionsWebsite | heidistjohn.comSupport the show! | donorbox.org/donation-827Rumble | rumble.com/user/HeidiStJohnYoutube | youtube.com/@HeidiStJohnPodcastInstagram | @‌heidistjohnFacebook | Heidi St. JohnX | @‌heidistjohnFaith That Speaks Online CommunitySubmit your questions for Fan Mail Friday | heidistjohn.com/fanmailfriday

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