Steve Briggs on Church Conservation Stone Masonry and Building a Sustainable Heritage Business

In this episode of Yours for the Making Robin Johnson speaks with Steve Briggs, founder of Briggs and Sons Masonry about conservation led stone masonry and the realities of scaling a heritage business. Steve explains why retaining original fabric matters, how church and listed building work demands restraint and judgement, and why replacement comes last. The conversation covers running a contracting arm alongside a consultancy for listed homes, navigating consent and surveys, training the next generation, and choosing culture and quality over rapid turnover. This episode offers a grounded view of craft led growth in the UK heritage sector.Key Topics CoveredChurch restoration and heritage conservationRetaining original fabric in historic buildingsStone masonry brickwork leadwork and roofsListed building consents surveys and maintenance plansRunning contracting and consultancy businesses togetherRejecting short term fixes in favour of longevityTraining trainees and paying for learning timeScaling from small teams to sustainable growthProtecting company culture during expansionCustomer care over chasing turnoverLearning craft through family and experienceThe future of heritage skills in the UKEnjoying the show?Leave a review, follow us, and share the episode with a fellow maker. New episodes every week with artists, designers, craftsmen and creators from around the world.Yours for the Making with Robin Johnson is the podcast that celebrates creativity, craftsmanship, and the art of making. Hosted by Robin Johnson — founder of Johnson Bespoke and BBC presenter on The Travelling Auctioneers, The Restorers, Woodland Workshop — this podcast dives into the stories of makers from all walks of life. From woodworkers, metal fabricators, and chefs to artists, designers, and hobbyists, each episode offers real conversations with the people behind the things we love.Whether you're a hands-on creative, aspiring artisan, or simply curious about how things are made, this podcast offers inspiration, insight, and practical wisdom. Expect behind-the-scenes stories, lessons in process and passion, and a celebration of the maker movement in all its forms.Subscribe now and follow Yours for the Making wherever you listen to your favourite podcasts.Key Moments:00:00 Introducing Steve Briggs and conservation masonry02:10 Keeping original fabric wherever possible05:40 Church restoration realities09:15 Running contracting and consultancy work13:30 Listed building consents and surveys18:45 Scaling teams and managing growth pain24:20 Training trainees properly30:05 Culture over turnover35:40 Learning craft through family41:10 Sustainability in heritage businesses46:30 Attracting the next generation