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EPISODE · May 25, 2026 · 26 MIN

Steve Evans | DALA Fire & Risk | Fire Safety in the Real World

from Beyond Four Walls - With Jodie Fraser

In this episode of Beyond Four Walls, I’m joined by Steve Evans from DALA Fire and Risk for a really honest and important conversation about where the built environment currently stands on fire safety, building safety and accountability post-Grenfell.This wasn’t about headlines or soundbites. It was about the uncomfortable realities the industry still needs to confront.We discuss whether the balance has shifted too far toward risk aversion, why competency on site still remains one of the biggest concerns across the sector and whether guidance is genuinely being interpreted in the spirit it was intended.Steve shares his thoughts on: The ongoing competency gap in construction and fire safety  Why passive fire protection still matters more than many realise  Whether “stay put” is still a valid strategy  Smoke control systems and the reality of real-life fire conditions  The challenges surrounding façade fire risk and PAS 9980  Why the “golden thread” risks becoming more paperwork instead of usable information  Commercial pressure versus genuine safety culture  The role of ethics, leadership and responsibility in the future of building safety We also discuss one of the biggest questions facing the industry:Are we creating genuinely safer buildings, or simply producing more documentation?This episode is essential listening for anyone working in block management, fire safety, construction, surveying, compliance or the wider built environment.A huge thank you to Steve Evans and DALA Fire and Risk for such an open and insightful discussion.The DALA Group - Integrated Fire Safety & Building ComplianceDALA Fire & Risk - The DALA GroupContact Steve on [email protected] you so much for listening to Beyond Four Walls. If you’ve been inspired by today’s conversation and you’d like to share your own story, I’d love to hear from you. You can reach me directly at [email protected] if you’d like to be a guest on the podcast.I’d also like to say a special thank you to my podcast producer, Shirley Ludford, at Swindon 105.5 – Swindon’s award-winning community radio station. It’s run by an incredible team of volunteers who are passionate about giving a voice to the local community. You can find out more about the station at www.swindon1055.co.ukIf you enjoyed this episode, please consider subscribing, leaving a review, and sharing it with someone who might find it helpful.Please follow me at:https://www.linkedin.com/company/beyond-four-walls-the-podcast-with-jodie-fraser/https://www.instagram.com/beyond_four_walls_the_podcast_?igsh=MWQ1MDU4dG5pdmFhbw%3D%3D&utm_source=qrhttps://www.instagram.com/the_jodie_fraser?igsh=aWZ5czFtdHBndXln&utm_source=qr...

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