Steve Jobs: The Untold Chapter with Geoffrey Cain

Join Atlas Society CEO Jennifer Grossman for the 313th episode of Objectively Speaking as she sits down with returning guest Geoffrey Cain to talk about his new book “Steve Jobs in Exile: The Untold Story of NeXT and the Remaking of an American Visionary,” which draws on previously unpublished materials and new interviews to reveal the untold story of Steve Jobs's “lost decade”—the twelve years of failure, near-bankruptcy, and humiliation at NeXT that forged the discipline and vision behind his legendary return to Apple. An award-winning investigative journalist, Cain is a returning guest to Objectively Speaking, having previously joined us to discuss “The Perfect Police State: An Undercover Odyssey into China's Terrifying Surveillance Dystopia of the Future.” A former correspondent at The Economist and regular commentator in The Wall Street Journal, Time, Foreign Policy, and a frequent guest on CNN, NPR, Fox News, and Bloomberg, Cain sits down with world leaders, tech founders, and dissidents at pivotal moments in history. His previous books also include “Samsung Rising,” longlisted for the Financial Times and McKinsey Business Book of the Year.