EPISODE · Feb 15, 2024 · 48 MIN
Steve Selengut: Creating Income Freedom
from Scouting for Growth · host Sabine VdL
On this episode of the Scouting For Growth podcast, Sabine VdL talks to Steve Selengut, who has over 40 years of direct investment management experience & is one of the few investing book authors who has actually managed client money for decades. Steve is here to share the fundamental principles behind "income-focused investing" laid out in his book “Retirement Money Secrets.” His approach can help investors confidently replace their paycheques with portfolio income streams that grow regardless of market conditions or interest rates. KEY TAKEAWAYS 25% of my money was always in the bond market, which included closed-in funds, mortgages, real estate, notes, loans, short-term, long-term, in the country, out of the country, a great, diverse portfolio. I stuck with stocks individually for a longer period of time & they all paid dividends, which became an income stream over time. In the first 5 weeks of 2024, my own personal accounts have generated over $20,000 in income. I’m not bragging about it; this is the possibility. Not only is it throwing out dividends every month, but the capital gains are like getting a cheque in the mail from your rich uncle & having something more to reinvest. After learning the foundational rules of investing, people should focus on the income generated by shares, bonds, etc., rather than their market values. You can’t spend the market value, you can’t spend a gold brick, you can't spend cotton futures, but you can spend cash. The companies are giving you cash because they appreciate your value as an owner. Utilities companies were always very good at this. But most companies, especially in the tech sector, want to grow. Mutual funds were developed & began to get popular after the crash in the 20s, the great depression, because everybody was afraid of the stock market at that point. Mutual funds gave people a diversified portfolio, you could own part of all the companies & participate in the growth of the economy again, without the fear of 100% loss if a company goes bust. That bought a lot of money back into the marketplace. There isn’t an investment advisor out there that would deny the fact that diversification is the key element of risk minimisation that you can employ. BEST MOMENTS ‘Big companies influence advisors, it’s not just economics, there’s a lot of politics in there too.’ ‘Bonds are a much safer investment than stocks by their nature, & they pay income.’ ‘If you see a $100 bill on the sidewalk, do you walk by it hoping it’ll be $150 tomorrow? Pick it up & reinvest it, it’s new capital.’ ‘I’ve been through too many crashes to take for granted that every great company is going to continue to be a great success.’ ABOUT THE GUEST Steve Selengut is a veteran investment manager & advisor specialising in income investing. Over his career, he directly managed over $110 million in individual investment portfolios in the US and abroad. Steve has now distilled his experience into the book ‘Retirement Money Secrets’, which explains the principles behind income investing. He also provides coaching services to both individual investors & financial advisors on implementing income investing using customised security selection. His goal is to get people to a sustainable, growing income level that makes market volatility & interest rate hikes a benefit rather than a problem. ABOUT THE HOST Sabine VanderLinden is a corporate strategist turned entrepreneur and the CEO of Alchemy Crew Ventures. She leads venture-client labs that help Fortune 500 companies adopt and scale cutting-edge technologies from global tech ventures. A builder of accelerators, investor, and co-editor of the bestseller The INSURTECH Book, Sabine is known for asking the uncomfortable questions—about AI governance, risk, and trust. On Scouting for Growth, she decodes how real growth happens—where capital, collaboration, and courage meet. If this episode sparked your thinking, follow Sabine VanderLinden on LinkedIn, Twitter, and Instagram for more insights. And if you’re interested in sponsoring the podcast, reach out to the team at [email protected]
What this episode covers
What if market volatility wasn’t your enemy—but your income engine? In this episode of Scouting for Growth, Sabine VanderLinden sits down with Steve Selengut, one of the rare voices in investing who doesn’t just write about money management—he’s lived it. With over 40 years of direct investment management experience, Steve is among the few authors who has managed client capital across multiple market cycles, crashes, booms, bubbles, and resets. This is not a conversation about chasing returns or predicting markets. It’s about something far more practical—and far more liberating: income-focused investing. Steve unpacks the core principles behind his book Retirement Money Secrets, challenging one of the most deeply ingrained myths in investing: that success is measured by portfolio value. Instead, he reframes the conversation around cash flow, income resilience, and sustainability. “You can’t spend market value,” Steve explains. You can’t buy groceries with a stock chart or a gold bar. But you can spend income. And that simple distinction changes everything. Drawing on decades of experience, Steve shares how diversified income streams—from dividend-paying stocks, bonds, closed-end funds, real estate, and global instruments—can be structured to replace a paycheque, regardless of market conditions or interest rate cycles. This is not theory. In early 2024 alone, Steve’s personal portfolio generated over $20,000 in income in just five weeks—not as a boast, but as proof of what’s possible with the right mindset and discipline. The conversation also dives into: Why diversification remains the most powerful risk-management tool ever created How mutual funds reshaped investor confidence after the Great Depression—and what today’s investors can learn from that history Why bonds and income-producing assets play a stabilising role in uncertain markets How reinvesting income compounds opportunity rather than waiting on price appreciation Why even “great companies” shouldn’t be treated as invincible Steve’s perspective is shaped by experience—not optimism bias. Having lived through multiple market crashes, he brings a calm, pragmatic voice to a world often driven by hype, fear, or politics. He also lifts the curtain on the structural incentives that influence financial advice, reminding listeners why independent thinking matters more than ever. For executives, founders, and professionals planning for financial independence—or simply looking to make their capital work harder—this episode delivers practical value you can act on immediately. It reframes investing as a system designed to serve your life, not dominate it. 🎧 If you want a smarter, calmer, and more resilient way to think about money—this episode is required listening. Because wealth isn’t about what your portfolio is worth on paper. It’s about what it pays you—consistently, sustainably, and on your terms.
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