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EPISODE · Apr 8, 2026 · 45 MIN

Steve Zabilski & Rethinking the Overhead Myth

from Givers, Doers, & Thinkers—A Podcast on Philanthropy and Civil Society

This week on Givers, Doers, & Thinkers, Jeremy Beer sits down with Steve Zabilski, president and CEO of the Virginia G. Piper Charitable Trust, to explore how investing in fundraising and capacity can transform nonprofits. Drawing on his experience leading St. Vincent de Paul in Phoenix, Steve shares how bold bets on development and marketing led to sustained growth for the organization and its programs. Let’s go!Sponsored by AmPhil, helping nonprofits advance their missions and raise more money: https://amphil.com/#podcast #interview #nonprofit #newepisodeCenter for Civil Society's YouTube Channel

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