🎥 Stonepeak's Luke Taylor - what it takes to be a great infrastructure investor

Welcome back to the Alt Goes Mainstream podcast.Today’s episode dives into the evolution of infrastructure investing with the leading scaled specialist firm in infrastructure.We sat down in Stonepeak’s Hudson Yards office with the firm’s Co-President Luke Taylor to discuss the inner workings of the infrastructure investing world and unpack the story of how Stonepeak’s rapid ascent has seen the firm climb to $76.3B in AUM in 14 short years.Luke brings a wealth of experience to the infrastructure investing world. He is Co-President of Stonepeak and a member of all of the firm’s investment committees. He’s been investing in infrastructure for over 20 years, joining Stonepeak from infrastructure investing pioneer Macquarie Capital.Luke and I had a fascinating and thought-provoking discussion about infrastructure investing and why it’s becoming an increasingly important part of the private capital ecosystem. We covered:* How Luke went from growing up on a sheep farm to investing in infrastructure in New York.* What Macquarie taught him about how to approach infrastructure investing.* Why he took the entrepreneurial leap to build Stonepeak and join Chairman, CEO, and Co-Founder Mike Dorrell from the firm’s earliest days.* Why infrastructure investing is more than toll roads, airports, and bridges.* How there are elements of a private equity approach to investing in, building, and operating infrastructure assets.* Where infrastructure fits in an investors’ portfolio.* Why individual investors should consider exposure to infrastructure assets.* Has infrastructure proved itself through an inflation cycle?* Why scale matters in infrastructure investing.* How Stonepeak identified investing in data centers early on and well before the data center boom began.* What type of demeanor and mindset makes for a successful infrastructure investor.Thanks Luke for coming on the show to share your expertise, wisdom, and passion for infrastructure investing.Thanks for reading Alt Goes Mainstream! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work - writing and podcasting about the convergence of private markets and private wealth since December 2020.Clip #1: What does it take to be a truly great infrastructure investor?Clip #2: Driving value creation in infrastructure investing.Clip #3: Infrastructure as a defensive investment.A word from AGM podcast sponsor, Ultimus Fund SolutionsThis episode of Alt Goes Mainstream is brought to you by Ultimus Fund Solutions, a leading full-service fund administrator for asset managers in private and public markets. As private markets continue to move into the mainstream, the industry requires infrastructure solutions that help funds and investors keep pace. 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