Stop Antizionism with Ben Shapiro and Natasha Pein

In this special segment of Don't Know Much About, Naya Lekht is joined by Ben Shapiro, co-founder of The Daily Wire, and Natasha Pein, Naya's partner and co-founder of Stop Antizionism, just one week before the inaugural World Symposium Against Antizionism, taking place in Toronto on May 17, 2026. Ben will deliver the keynote address. Tickets are still available at stopaz.org/symposium.The conversation covers the fundamental failure of the Jewish establishment to name today's Jew-hatred accurately, and what it costs to keep fighting the last war.What you'll learn:Why the term "antisemitism" has been stretched to the point of meaninglessness, and why arguing "antizionism = antisemitism" is a losing strategyHow Soviet antizionist propaganda, launched in the aftermath of the Six-Day War, seeded Western universities and never leftThe two distinct brands of antizionism emerging on the American right, and why they require different responsesWhy the Thomas Sowell framing holds: the surest path to antisemitism is Jewish successHow Jewish kids are losing their Zionist identity, and Ben's unsparing diagnosis of where that failure actually beginsThe "strange new respect" dynamic: why being a Jewish critic of Israel is such a "sexy pitch"The Yevsektsiya parallel: a history of Jews used to advance anti-Jewish agendas, from the Soviet Communist Party to today's campusesBen's three specific pieces of advice, for Jewish schools, Jewish organizations, and Jewish parentsGuest Bios:Ben Shapiro is the co-founder and editor emeritus of The Daily Wire, a #1 New York Times bestselling author, and one of the most listened-to political commentators in America. He is the author of The Right Side of History, How to Destroy America in Three Easy Steps, and numerous other books. He will deliver the keynote address at the World Symposium Against Antizionism on May 17, 2026, in Toronto.Natasha Pein co-founded Stop Antizionism with Naya Lekht. It is a US-based educational initiative that frames antizionism as the third era of Jew-hatred. Born in the Soviet Union, she draws on firsthand experience of Soviet antizionist campaigns to illuminate the roots of today's ideological landscape. She is also a co-organizer of the World Symposium Against Antizionism.Resources & Links: World Symposium Against Antizionism (Toronto, May 17, 2026): stopaz.org/symposium Stop Antizionism: stopaz.org The Right Side of History by Ben ShapiroThe Daily Wire: dailywire.comClarifying the complex. Step into my classroom.