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EPISODE · Mar 30, 2026 · 38 MIN

Stop Billing, Start Living with David Bernard | Episode 85

from Above the Legal Limit

If you've never worked a 2,000-hour year—where you hit 5:00 PM, look at your timesheet, and realize you still owe the firm another hour before you can go home, then you might not understand why flat-fee work feels like a breath of fresh air. David Bernard, founder of Precision Law Group, lived that grind. Defense firm life. Constant pressure. Putting out fires. Then everything changed when he realized: the goal shouldn't be the work. The goal should be the result. This week, David and Justin Chopin talk about: -Why hourly billing keeps you trapped -How flat fees create freedom for both lawyer and client -Why the bar association keeps trying to kill flat fees (and why they're wrong) The moment David knew he had to go out on his own. If you're a lawyer tired of chasing the clock—or a business owner who wants predictable pricing—this one's for you.

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