Do you want to sing the intro? Me? Yeah. That's what the shot.
Dunder? Yes, no curses, right? Yeah. Alright.
What the hell is wrong with you? When do we curse in the intro? My balls are constantly... Oh, you can say you balls?
You can? Yeah. Okay. They would have told me I can't say balls.
Right? That'd be ridiculous if I'm just saying balls. And that's getting flagged and that's the intro of every shot. I'm saying I'm bald and totally moving.
Gotcha. Three, two, it's on fire! Ready to take us all the way to the shot. Welcome to the...
Ready to take us all the way to the shot. Welcome to the shot! Take care of her! Who nursed you?
Who nursed you? Who nursed you? That's very nice! That's pretty good.
That's pretty good. Oh, I was dodging potholes left and right there. Yeah. You did good?
It was great. You never know when you're going to be called upon to be a front man. I feel like Mark Wahlberg at Rockstar. I feel like if I had a saying in it that I was going to make me dizzy and then I was going to get panicky.
I feel like it's hard to breathe. Maybe I'll just taste the smell toast burning. I'm going out. Welcome to the show Big J.
Ochison. Yes, buddy. What's up? Thank you.
Very happy to have you here. If you don't know Big J, I don't know what they have in here. He's one of the greatest comedians alive and he lets me do stand up all the time. Every single time I do stand up with you, it's the best crowd and it makes me feel like maybe I am funny and I can do it.
You already know. And then I go to this other place and I'm like, oh, you know. That is a funny change. It's the difference between getting somebody who's already for lack of a better word of the genre of what we do.
And they're all there in one place. When I go up, you'll come watch me do just the OR at the comedy store on a Tuesday and my first few minutes are definitely like pulling teeth. Yeah, because they're not that good. Yeah, you can kind of feel like as soon as I come out, especially the other day, I came to see you and you were like, hey, do you want to do a set?
And I was like, okay. So I definitely wasn't ready and I got nervous again because I can tell everybody's ready to laugh. Like you kind of get away with it. Like at the start of everybody and it's like, oh, I didn't even say anything yet.
It's exciting for you to be there. But it makes it feel easy. And when you said pulling teeth, it's not the ultimate way to stop. You know, it'd be better if it was like, oh, look at everybody's come to laugh.
This is going to be fun. That's just comedy is not that anymore. Like comedy is definitely people in the audience are coming to be like, let's see if they go too far tonight. Like they're not there just to like, let's laugh and have a good time.
Yeah, it's, you know, you have to assume I think a large, not a large, but a percentage of the people who follow you are looking at your stuff every day to see what you're going to get made at. Wow. Tell it tell on you for saying the F word on YouTube. Like that's crazy.
Yeah, like they're there to be upset and people go to comedy clubs to be appalled. It's very bizarre. Do you ever meet these people like before after the show? What sort of sure what sort of take do you have on that sort of like outside of that being a weird and like, well, hobby of theirs?
What kind of miserable people do you think they are in other parts of their lives? Oh, cross there. They're in a bubble. They're in a bubble of like everything should be bending towards like the way I want it's I waited.
I was doing a meet and greet after a show in like middle of the Bellevue, Washington state was part of a lot. It was great. In other words, they make you do a meet and greet official. So you stand there and everybody waits and once you see this line and there was a lady.
It always bumps me out to an age hasn't changed. When you were a kid and you thought people were older just kind of like were smart and wouldn't say anything contradictory or what it was. Yeah. And this older like, I'm almost like a hippie lady, waited in line for like 25, 30 minutes waiting behind people who were like, I love this stuff or I never heard of you and this was great taking pictures and everything.
And then she waits and let me go. I think you're like funny. Like you're a funny guy, but like your subjects like there's so much to talk about in the world like and you're talking about the things you're going on. I go, yeah, no, I was like, well, I know I'm not for everybody.
I know it's like dirty and but I said to her, I go, Gary Goldman is great comic. Sweetie clean for the most part. I go, Gary Goldman is a sweetie, clean comic and like he's literally he's playing it's like Tacoma comedy club. You should see he's like hilarious and like sweetie clean.
It's more like what you're looking for. I got I understand I'm mad at her for being too dirty for I go. Yeah, but there is a great comic in terms like super clean. I recommend and she goes, but I like coming here and I go, are you?
Did you wait in line for a half hour from people telling me how much fun they had to tell me that I should change everything that I did change the way I do it to suit clearly in this scenario. It looks like only you. Did she say she's? Yeah.
I respect her honesty. Yeah, for sure. But it wasn't like that. Yeah, it's like I don't like rom coms.
I've never stood up and been like, why are they making these? It's just probably not for me. I'm not the audience. Well, you are because that person seems like this is not the last time that she will spend a considerable amount of time to line up to tell somebody that they suck.
Yeah, it's really crazy. Just move on. It does make it feel better knowing that there's a group of people out there that are just there to be triggered because I feel like sometimes when people do get bummed out, you're like, ah, you know, I mean, what did I say? I'm not trying to offend people.
I was trying to make you laugh and you're mad at me. Well, it must be my fault. But then when you hear that, I believe more is not actually triggered. I think they're listening for things that will trigger people and bringing that to the surface to look at what a terrible person is.
And look what I've done by exposing and bringing this guy to the light. Is that there's like the addiction to outrage. They love having their buttons pushed. You imagine like even just imagine the most inappropriate comedian, whatever that means to you, like going to a show and just being like, this is terrible.
This person needs to be stopped. You would still, what would you do? Get up and leave. Yeah, it just goes.
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I don't know if something needs to yell over the world or at least you know if you were broadcast or so if you say it's a smashing pump in his life. As much as I love the smashing pump in his life they're the worst live there. Really? He just doesn't care.
He doesn't like doing it. Have you seen it more than once? Because they could have bad days. You know.
And many years apart. The first show I saw he apologized at the end of the show. Like he knew it wasn't a good one. Oh wow.
He speeds up the songs. He seems to have contempt for the audience. I would have heard that said I love Smell. I think he's a genius.
I think the music is brilliant. But it's not good. I would go on the radio and be like, I know there is an element of that that shitty if he heard that for some reason. But I certainly would never DM Billy Corgan.
I love the smashing pump. You sped through the songs. It's your problem. I'm like, those things.
I just didn't love the show. I'm just telling my thing. Billy Corgan is the best. Don't worry about it.
I saw Danzig once and I've seen Danzig a lot. He's been great several times. But one time he looked a little puffy. Like a lot more puffy than usual.
The demon horns and the better puffy. No, it was folded out. So it wasn't the logo. It was instead of seeping out.
It was pointing out. Yeah, the horns were pointing out because the guy was fighting it. And I was like, why wear that belt? It's going to get pushed like that.
You don't want to rodeo. Put on a smaller belt belt belt belt. Yeah. I don't know.
Vest, I don't know what you would do. Although there is something to be said though, staying the same or changing. Danzig, if he just changed it all and wasn't wearing the demon thing. He does that at this point for the audience.
He's like they want to see the belt. He knows it does it because the other thing is like Marilyn Manson, what a fan I was of him for so long. I still haven't the music. And I thought he was great.
And when he got older now, it's not that he got older. He said he got older and now he wears a t-shirt and a vest on stage. And he's still squeezing into leather pants. And he's not fat.
Fat would be the wrong description for him. Really? I'm sure this one gets each one. He's not thin at all.
He's just kind of sloppy. And the way even from seeing when he's young, he knew how to slither almost around the stage. Sebastian Bach, slither on the stage and looked like a rock star. And now Marilyn Manson, last night's my song.
He looks like clunky, like he's like jumping around the stage and barely sing the songs and playing on the ground. Marilyn Manson, I took Kristia and took my girlfriend a couple times to see him but passed his prime by the time she got to see him. And one of them was a Chicago Open Air Festival. And I think that was the first time she was going to see him with me.
I was so excited. I'm like, this is going to be an experience for you. I'm like, he's the best. And he came out and he did.
I made the opening of my special. I've had made a told this before. I did the opening of my Comedy Central special based off of a performance that he does of his his song, any Christ Superstar, which is inspired by that. And it's my favorite.
It's when he comes out and they drop the banners. It looks like a Nazi rally. He's on the podium doing the parody of it. And that was always the cool.
He was always wearing a corset and skinny and he'd be saluting and falling over. It just looked cool in his weird rock starness. I had open air festivals. Got the shirt to vest on.
The song started at the podium doing this. They have him shooting the poor guy directly up his 18s. Oh, not yet. And he always did Marilyn Manson the years to have watched this guy do gross stuff on stage.
But because he's Manson, you're like, it's awesome. I watched him just piss his pants and he points attention to it. And he blows his knot rockets and spitting up in the air. They have the camera on him and he goes to blow his snog.
No. And he blows it and it just stays right here. And the crowd goes, I mean, it's tens of thousands of people. It's in a soccer stadium.
And they all go, oh, like a community like that. And then quickly the cameras go away and they start showing the audience. It looks like almost chaotic. We're like, I get off that.
And then it goes back to him on the screen. And that was hilarious doing this. Oh, oh, no. And I was just, I looked at Christine.
I was like, it's over. I'm like, it's over. It's done. He can't be cool anymore.
I think he was such a legit rock star that he can only rock that hard for so long without your body given up. And I feel like he's like, it's kind of like an old wrestler. There's guys out there in their 50s and 60s. Sting is back.
And he's sitting on skinc, I heard that he still does a great show. But he's 60. He's knees and everything is blown out. And he's still trying to do it.
And you're like, nostalgia. You're like, still trying. Like, is it as good? No, but he's here.
You know, like you got to respect that. With a warrior, did a speech and a suit and a warrior mask on. Take the makeup off or don't wear the suit. Yeah, yeah.
I was actually was talking to somebody about that yesterday. That was a more seminal moment in my life than I realized. When he came out right before, like he didn't even die three days later or something. Like a week or two.
It came out and did a guy. He's all melted. Yeah. He legally changes the name of the warrior, which is pretty cool.
But I don't know what it is. I don't know what the fairness of him. I don't know what the slu... Other than staying thin.
No, he has to get subbed. He's really not. He might. No, I think you're right.
I think that's what it is also that he went from being, I think, like a genius and so many ways to believing the character instead of what the character was. In the beginning, he did politically incorrect with Bill Maher. Yeah, he was pretty sharp, right? Bowling for Columbine.
Yeah, he would just take people apart because he would say like, I'm satire. Like I'm satire. I used to love it. When I was a kid, I loved all the simplicity of like their outside raging and protesting because I rip up a Bible and my show goes, but I'm just making the point that it's a book printed in a a book press.
Like it's only what you put into the words on the page. And I was always just like, what a great fire back. And he's like, yeah, I'm ripping a Bible. What does that even mean?
It's just paper or really. It doesn't mean anything. And me ripping it doesn't change your religion or do. And he was always so like, you know, they were like, well, as the Lord of Evil, he's like, I'm not the Lord of Evil.
He was aware of himself and was able to look that kind of like, you know, called freaky or cool and like speak that eloquently on it. And now the last thing I've listened to in an interview was he did Mark Marin's show, WTF. And I thought he was borderline, it was annoying me that he was almost disrespectful to him the whole time. He was drunk.
He answers things very like smart ass, sarcastically to make his whatever entourage guys laugh. And Mark Marin's like, so what made you get into music? You know, he just gives him like Dick Hachancer. And then Mark's like, okay, you know, all right.
It's awkward. We've had him on the show a couple of times. Yeah. Definitely.
He had a liking for me. So that made it easier. Nice. But if you asked him anything that was, could even slightly be considered uncomfortable, I could watch him physically back off.
Like at one point, he even put his shades back on. Really? And like back to away from the microphone. And I was like, oh, okay, soften it.
You know what I mean? And then when I softened it, they came off and he came back in. I was like, oh, okay, I get it. What's funny also was watching someone who almost physically was like an art piece.
Yeah. Like I read his book when I was younger and everything and I went through and I know all the pictures. He looks now like his father, which is hilarious. Yeah, I was like older than older Jewish looking guy.
Yeah, Bamb is starting to like, like, I remember when I used to be on two with Bamb, it was actually like really noticeably. We'd bring it up. Everywhere we would go and we'd get out of the bus, he would immediately start doing pushups and crunches everywhere all the time. And it was very obvious that he was doing that because he didn't want to look like his father.
We got older. And I think you might have mentioned it a couple of times. I didn't have to like figure it out. He like stated it and then to watch him get bigger and start to look like him.
And I'm like, I bet you you don't like that, but you can't give up the alcohol to him. No, I wonder. I'm like, I don't know if it's like, it wouldn't be my place, but I must reach out to Steve O because I think Steve O, who I'm friends with, I watched Bamb's interview with him. He just did the new one.
He just did where Bamb's kind of like, the temperament seems to be like, Bamb's doing great, man. He's doing really good and he's got himself together, but he didn't sound great on the show. And now he's going to start doing, he's going to be opening for Steve O on the road. You're not up to speed.
Oh, really? I was almost going to go, Steve O, should you not do that? I don't know if it's good for Steve O to have. He blew it.
Already. He got drunk after the show with his kid and then stayed up real late and then posted about what a piece of Jeff Tremaine is. And Johnny Knox had kind of launched one and then Steve O in the morning fired back. Really?
It's like, I can't help you. Like, if that's how you're going to be, I gave you the shot and even brought up, he's like, dude, you're getting wasted with your kid and you're trying to say that the most important thing is your kid, but you're doing this. It's like you're going to lose your kid, you're going to lose your life and I feel like I can't help. So he blew it.
Oh, wow. Then they only do a couple of dates together. Yeah, it's funny because that's what I thought was interesting on the podcast. They were doing Steve O's podcast.
And he's like, well, dude, you're doing great. You sound better than I've heard. You sound it a long, long time ago. He's not because he sounded way worse.
Sure. He was like not making sense for a while. Did you, one of the funniest, it's a drop on the bonfire we have for, he went on Dr. Phil.
Who did a bam? A while back. It was just such a funny piece because he's manic. He's out of his mind on it.
That's not necessarily funny. But the way they got him to do the show to agree and he was so out of his head that he believed this, it was, they told him, like, yeah, come on. And Dr. Phil is going to help you be able to talk to your wife about what's going on.
Basically, I told him, like, and he believed, like, come on, and I'm going to tell your wife to shut up and leave you alone and not do your drugs. He's right. Right. So he went there, but he, when it was unfolding, he wasn't catching it.
So Dr. Phil's like, you know, bam, we really do have to talk now about your addiction problems. He's like, yeah, yeah. But like, tell her, like, leave me alone.
Just let me do drugs and shut up. And it's just like well, well into it. Dr. Phil's like, but bam.
You think maybe the substance that you're taking is like, Dr. Phil, I believe we were here to tell her to shut up about it already. The fact that it's way too deep and he still thought that he didn't get the surprise on his prize party. He's like, sure, I am doing drugs in a felonious clip.
Hell heard a shut up about it. Yeah, that's not a, especially when you're older, you know, because we, they helped Steve Oh, and Steve Oh was so far gone, dude. I remember at one point hearing him on Howard Stone's show and I was like, oh, that's it. Like, there's no coming back from doing it that hard.
The first time I ever met him, and it was funny. It was almost the reason why I was younger. I'd always loved Jackass. But my personality wasn't like, I'd want to hang with those guys.
I like watching them do what they do. But I would have a problem if I wouldn't think it's funny if someone walks up and shaves a big chunk of my hair out of my head. Like, I'm like, yeah, we're not talking ever again. But I love watching it.
I was like, I've never wanted to hang with him. And then he came and he was still on drugs. Steve P.C.P. Oh.
To the seller and like, made a, I thought he was cool. If it makes sense. I'm like, oh, Steve-O-Steve-O-Ewing. But he was out of his treat.
By the time I became friends with him, he was sober and it was funny. He invited me over and it was sweet. He was in for dinner before the show one night. And he cooked and he's vegan.
And he made like stuffed to-furkey. And as Sal, and as well we were eating, he was going to quiet for a second. I started laughing and he was like, what? I was like 17 watching Jackass.
I didn't think our first hang would be eating a vegan meal that you just with salad tossers. You only presented a lovely meal. And I was like, that is not what you picture of. But he's a great dude.
Because he really turned it around. He did all the work. He went to rehab and he did sober living for a really long time. He stopped himself from having sex.
He locked down everything. It wasn't a thing. The reason they were able to get him to go to rehab was they agreed to come over so he can film. They were riding a mini motorcycle.
He said, through his window, over the alley between the buildings and into the window of his neighbor who hates him. He was like, Johnny Knox was like, totally, I'll grab some cameras. I'll be over in 15 minutes. And he was like, everybody, we have to go get him to the hospital.
That's wild. Which is, he saved his life with that whole thing. And I've heard it from several of the guys that were there where Johnny's face, Steve O says his face was not playing around. Steve O could see it even in his blacked out drug pay.
He's being spoken to now. He's like, oh, okay. This is real serious. And it's like, yeah, dude.
We're done for sure if you don't go right now. He did it. Did he have to do multiple tries, Steve O? I think so.
Multiple tries. Yeah. Because he'd been before. But I think once that one happened.
But he obviously had been through a lot before that because they just deny that it's a problem. And it's so high that you can't get in their brain that you're trying to help them. Well, it's also the arty-lang sort of thing in that I'm with, I love and I feel tried to have to. Yes.
But it's empathetic for what? And sympathetic for what? But there is a point where you just have to move on with your life that excuses too much for so long. And I think with Bam, it's Ryan Dunn.
But at a point, it's kind of gross that you're scapegoating that. And with arty-lang, that's what I felt for as much as I love arty. I do. I think he's brilliant.
I love it. I felt for a while, genuine, bad. Because I was dad, he blames himself for not being there for his dad's construction accident and this and then his family. And he's got these problems.
And I felt by the end, it's like, he loves heroin. Now it's more just like, hey, dude, get your shit together. Instead of having that, it's like, dude, I'm rooting for you now. You're almost like, hey, buddy, since your dad died 30, 40 years ago.
I have the same things that happened to me and my childhood has made me what I am today. And I react in ways that are really inappropriate because of the damage that was done as a child. I went to therapy. I'm not cured by any means.
And I recently put my foot in it with Lewis. That guy came out where I got all frustrated and felt that I got ripped off and my whole advantage. I'm like, dude, I can't take this anymore. And I flipped out on him.
And then I called him afterwards and was like, dude, I'm sorry. That was like, whatever happens, I hope your knee heals. That's not me. Yeah, but you guys saw each other.
Because he was like, I love Jason. He's like, I love Jason. He's like, really? Yeah, but it got weird.
No, listen, we all do. I have things and then you have to go back and back. I just did the thing again. I just thought again, the thing I do, I say, I won't do.
But what I was getting to is it's not my parents' fault anymore. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You have a chance to change it.
In my 50s. And it's like, dude, you can't blame anybody else anymore. I guess you haven't worked on it enough. You haven't got yourself to become under pressure.
And it's your fault. Like regardless of he doesn't want to take a fight anymore, it's got nothing to do with it. Like your reaction ruined it. Like I made people hate me because of the reaction.
Right. And people are still mad at me. Like, well, you're like, well, lose that knee surgery now. What?
I'm like, dude, I wasn't. I was like, after you get it fixed, you want to fight. It's probably not. Like, he doesn't want to fight.
And it freaks me out, okay? Because I didn't want to fight, but I was ready to fight. And I hated that I got in that mindset. I hated that I had this whole training camp.
Oh, training camp. Dude, like it just sounds so stupid. I met the gym. Everybody's like 28.
You know what I mean? It's just like, oh, you're going to fight. You're drinking exit 5A. I'm just like, Lewis.
Yeah, because anyone who loses actually is serious. I was treating it like I was going to fight somebody that was really good. Like, just in case. Yeah.
I'm not that guy where I'm like, oh, dude, my background will win. I don't need to train. Like, that's how you lose. Yeah.
And I got blue balls. Yeah. And I get it. And I think the mindset of getting ready to hurt somebody and then him get, you know, like, not wanting to do it anymore.
It went directly at him. I lost it. He hurt you emotionally. Yeah.
I feel like there's an ego that doesn't want to admit that. But yeah. No, for sure. And I said, we all like have our we're sort of like, you know, we're slave to a some degree of like our wiring.
Yeah. And it's like learning how to like fight it. It's something like that. Like how do you feel, you know, BAMR Jarritt's like, man, done died.
Like it was his friend. They were partying hard. He probably feels like survivors guilty of some degree. And it's like he's getting all of a sudden to know what the most dangerous things he's got going on that he has to rationalize.
But now you're like, I think he likes booze and drugs. Right? Like I think that's what wins the thing now. I think maybe it's clouding dealing with the Ryan Dunst & maybe it's going to kid.
Yeah. Like when you lose a friend, how was a kid? No, like a little kid, right? He didn't get drunk with like with by maybe an older kid that he got drunk with.
He was like he got drunk while he was with both of them. Yeah. And he's on. He's already lost the kid.
Yeah. He's on. He's on. I don't know what it is, but he's like a thing that restricted like the situation.
like, like, I don't know. This is like every now and then he gets him. And then for that you do that while you've got him, you just have to not do it for, I think he probably only had him for a day or two, you know? It seems like the difference is like, I think Steve, I don't know what the difference is on a basic level between the two of them, but Steve, he was able to see a vision of like a whole different life for himself that he was attracted to that he wanted to move into.
I haven't seen Bamben years, but it seems to me like, he doesn't see anything on the other side of this. He's trying to decide to get hammered or don't. Yeah, I think he was trying to, I think that's what Steve was trying to present to him. Like, dude, we got stories you can do this.
You can do this. He can do anything. He's already done the impossible. The guy made us a pro skateboarder.
This barely chances of anyone ever doing that. And then made a monster of a scene that like built made skateboarding bigger. Like, it was up there with Tony Hawk, where like people that didn't skate, new Bamben, and they got into skateboarding. Like he was creating a huge force of people bringing the masses to us.
He made horrible bands famous. Yeah, several of them. Yeah. I know him was the guy farting that.
Yeah. Yeah. Ridiculous. Hey, guy.
I don't know him at all. I just know like the heart of Graham was like the thing. Yeah. He was the deal.
I was hanging out with that whole thing popped off. And it was one day it's Bamben was skating next day. Bamben's covered in makeup, 75 chains on, more rings than fingers. And I'm like, why mumbling so much?
And then also kind of shining me. That was the bit where I was like, wait, what do you mean? Like what? He didn't have time for me anymore.
He's also like I said, he seems like his person. That's why I didn't like Viva LeBam to show it all. Yeah. I stayed away from that because I looked at him a little bit older than me because I didn't start comedy when Jacky's came up.
But a few years later I did. And I just thought like they watched him with his parents. The bits are funny, like pranking them and stuff. But just a general overall way.
He like talked to them and would do certain things. I was like, oh, he's like a child. Like he's way like a, I want what I want. I want to watch out and it's working out.
He's getting kind of what he wants. And I think he's not that anymore. I think I don't know if he, I'm speculating. I don't know if he feels guilt or like there I go.
I blew it again with Steve. I think he still has like a Steve. You're going to tell me really that I can't party a little bit. I can't party a little bit.
Do you have to go and show? I think he's a child. The post he did when he blacked out that night was like a reliving of it. He went back in time like it happened five minutes ago.
It was like, it's like I get black that wasted and you see me tweet at two in the morning. It's like, fuck it's a room in my life. Like it's like, dude, it's over. It happened.
Yeah. But I don't think he wakes up and goes, hey, he wakes up and just grabs a beer and goes, yeah, when are we going to get Jeff Tremaine? It's like, did none of us are going to get Jeff Jeff's not a bad guy. Like, you didn't, it was, you drink too much and they had a contract and not drink to do the movie and you drank.
It's, it's not, it's no one else's fault. It's not Jeff's fault. Like, Jeff, I know Jeff, he's a really good guy. Is he hard on people?
Yeah, I feel like he wants the best and I don't know if I'm not in Jackass. But I have film stuff with him and I can tell he brings a thing that makes you want to bring your A game. And in that line of work, that's a gnarly, you know, you could talk all the smack you want. But have you ever been in a party and they're about to shoot you into the sky with poo?
Like it's. Or the see do just going and you know you're going to land on grass and dirt. As a guy, I'm pretty sure I'm going to get hurt right now. I want to out, you know, I want to go home.
But I've already set this whole thing up. Everybody's here cameras and I'm like, oh, you know, here I go. And pain and the misery afterwards. And I'm like, why would anybody do that?
30% I'm walking out of the broken arm. Yeah, I did that jump out of a buggy onto a skateboard and the people that built the ramp was just like, they just didn't really care and they had to jump go this way. And the landing ramp was like over here. So I had to leap out of the car to try and land on the ramp.
And the first time I missed the ramp and went like 40 feet to my butt and really hurt myself. Like, how wrecked was I for not weeks, months? I couldn't bend over for a long time. Like, I just wrecked it and it wrecked my spine.
Like, everything was off. It took like a long time to get past that. And you knew what was going to happen as you were getting ready to start doing it. For sure.
Probably not going to work out. I was like, it's a 70 30. And I'm talking 70%. You're going to get wrecked.
And I was like, we're all here. You know, and that's one time. Imagine three months of like you get up in the morning and you are jumping it again. Or you're doing one that's just as dumb and just like, come on, man.
Like, and you do it. Let's say you do it. And it really hurt. And he's like, it's good.
I could I can imagine how difficult that would be. And especially if I'm an addict and I'm thinking, you know what? We take the pain away a little bit. Couple beers and we kill it.
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It's a fantastic measure. But probably, I can not give it to this migration. Probably the late show helped us. Oh, dude.
I feel like I was in my younger days when I came to taking drugs. Like if I broke my arm and they gave me painkillers, I would do it in a way where I totally knew that I was being abusive. Oh, man. It's killing me.
But he's like four of them. And they're like, four hours. I'm like, yeah, but oh, I got my wisdom to the other. Like here, you get to give me eight Percocets.
Like, oh, take the other one down. Give me 16. Take the other one. Give me 16.
So I've never had like cigarettes for sure. Food food. No, not yet. But food for sure, but like addiction with like drugs, alcohol has never been like my so I never like wrestled with that very much.
The exact same thing. Like you're lucky. That's baffling to me. If I had just like part of being a dude was sort of being an alcoholic or really being an alcoholic.
I will say what I will say is I get older. What I'll say is I get older because I never had when I was young, I really didn't drink at all here and there a couple. But I drove always and I had a daughter very young. So I was at like the partying scene.
I had a terrible number 22. I didn't really just party on very much. Then as I got older, moved into the city wasn't driving as much. I can like Uber walk wherever I was going.
I started drinking more. And because I never was a big drink, I just don't drink excessively. So I don't have like drunk in like where did you go? I don't even have stories like that at all.
So my thing with alcohol is like I drink probably too many days a week alcohol, but I'm never like it's not affecting my life. Like I don't wake up hungover. It's not getting that kind of drunk. Do you know what I mean?
So like I probably do drink too much. But again, it's moderation of things. I can't if I could smoke. The doctors have told me like if you could smoke two cigarettes a day or a cigarette a day goes I would never even stop smoking.
Just won't change your life that much. And I was like, yeah, but I cannot do that. And so I can't do I can have if you go. Others know what they did before my special.
Ari Shafir was like, oh, I learned this to you. It was for the last two months before your special. Just don't drink alcohol. It was just unnecessary bloating in your face or whatever.
And I just was like, OK, it was like way on me where I was like two months. Like it went on whatever. Oh, you did do it. It was no problem.
No, it was not. Not when you were doing other shows late at night. You were like, man, not at all. It was not big of a deal.
I mean, I am heroes or whatever. And like it went on because I know though I'm not going to where I think people who drink heavy think they're it's going anyway. They want to get loose and wild. They have it.
I don't think them in my mind. Loose enough that I'll go, oh, when I go home, I won't sit awake all night. But then some of the I'll be able to go back and really just like put on TV and crash. Yeah, you're thinking ahead and addict doesn't.
Right. Yeah. For me, like you're saying cigarette, you can do two. You can't do two.
I can't do two beers. Can I do two beers for a week? Yeah. Right.
But will I have a third one in the middle of the day? Because there's a big thing happening and everybody else's buzz. And I'm like, yeah, sure. I third.
The third means there's no more game plan. Anything can happen. Like a fourth is totally possible. And if it's a fourth that's totally possible, that means bottles can go down my neck all day.
I've watched. I mean, Christine essentially, I mean, she did quit alcohol. And when her and so Dan sort of like, describe what their problem with alcohol was, it's weird that I can't get a grip on it necessarily. Because I'm like, this is something where you don't have to stop.