EPISODE · Aug 20, 2026 · 57 MIN
STOP LIVING BY AN OLD STORY: JIM BURGOON ON TRANSITION, SERVANT LEADERSHIP & TELLING A BETTER STORY
from Peace Love and Bring a Bat · host David Chametzky
STOP LIVING BY AN OLD STORY: JIM BURGOON ON TRANSITION, SERVANT LEADERSHIP & TELLING A BETTER STORY What if the story holding you back is one you have repeated for so long that it started feeling like truth? On this episode of Peace, Love, and Bring a Bat, Uncle Dave welcomes his friend Jim Burgoon, leadership coach, veteran, author, and creator of Lead With Jim. Jim helps people understand who they are, confront limiting beliefs, strengthen relationships, and move toward what they believe they are called to create. His work includes leadership development, mindset, DISC personality, communication, faith, and personal growth. The conversation begins with transition—what happens when you realize you no longer belong in the place where you once fit. Jim believes every season needs an exit strategy. How you leave matters. Leaders should close relationships well, finish responsibilities, train others, avoid burning bridges, and leave things better than they found them. But transition is not only organizational. It is emotional. In this episode, you will discover: • Why DISC profiles can shift and should never become identity prisons • How to leave a job, role, or season with integrity • Why transition requires grieving what is ending • How “radical acceptance” helps people move through change • Why relationships must be redefined rather than simply discarded • How old stories become limiting beliefs • Why you cannot change what you refuse to confront • How confirmation bias can reinforce a false identity • Why self-awareness is essential for leadership • How trust, communication, and compassion grow together • Why wisdom comes from evaluating experience—not simply surviving it • How servant leaders combine service with direction • Why natural gifts, learned skills, and spiritual gifts are different • Why your inner circle matters when identifying your strengths • How celebrating progress makes the road ahead less overwhelming TELL A BETTER STORY Jim shares a deeply personal example from his own life. As a young trumpet player, he dreamed of studying music and performing. Despite real accomplishments, important people told him he had no talent. He believed them. That sentence became a story Jim carried for decades. Later failures appeared to confirm it, creating a cycle of self-sabotage. His message is simple: You will never change what you do not confront. First, identify the story. Then ask why you believed it. Finally, replace the lie with something true. That process became part of Jim’s first book, Tell a Better Story. SERVANT LEADERSHIP Jim believes servant leadership is one of the strongest models of leadership. Serving does not mean refusing to lead. A leader still needs to climb above the trees, see the direction, communicate the vision, then come back down and help everyone move toward it together. Leadership starts with relationship. And healthy relationships begin with learning how to relate to yourself. SEED FOR THE MAGIC GARDEN Jim’s seed is about patience. Take your time and process properly. There is no race. Hustle culture can convince people that everything must happen immediately, but emotional, mental, physical, relational, and spiritual health deserve time. Have compassion for yourself. Take one step. If you fall back, get up and take another. Every step forward matters. The only true failure is deciding to quit completely. CONNECT WITH JIM BURGOON Website: https://leadwithjim.com/ Social Media: @leadwithjim Book: Tell a Better Story #PeaceLoveAndBringABat #JimBurgoon #LeadWithJim #TellABetterStory #ServantLeadership #LeadershipDevelopment #SelfAwareness #PersonalGrowth #Faith #Mindset #Transition To support us: https://davidchametzky.com/ https://www.youtube.com/@davidchametzkyNOW https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/peace-love-and-bring-a-bat/id1552738547
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