EPISODE · May 26, 2026 · 1H 1M
Zoom Out - Stop Overthinking Music | Charlie Gilder
from ZHZ Podcast: Independent Music, Artist Interviews & The Utah Scene · host Zak Davis & Matt Allen
Charlie Gilder is stepping into what he calls “The Gilder Era”—and if you’ve been stuck overthinking every move, this episode is your wake-up call.In this ZHZ Podcast interview, we talk about the mindset shift that helps artists stop staring at the problem up close and finally zoom out. Because in Independent Music, it’s way too easy to feel behind, feel overwhelmed, and feel like the whole game is stacked against you. Charlie keeps it real: you can either complain about the current music landscape… or learn how to play it and move forward.If you’re building in the Utah Scene (or anywhere, honestly), this conversation is packed with perspective, encouragement, and practical ways to keep chasing your dreams without burning yourself out.What we get into:The “Zoom Out” mindset (and why it changes everything) What “The Gilder Era” means and why people connect with it How to keep moving even when the work feels like a lot Encouragement for artists who feel stuck, tired, or behind Why “playing the game” doesn’t have to kill your creativity Follow / Support Charlie Gilder:Want to keep up with Charlie and what he’s building? Hit these links: Charlie’s main hub / store: https://gilder-prod.square.siteSpotify (featured release): https://open.spotify.com/track/4r6Hs2yVVzXC5TGgXp84UF?si=Y8DB8yvNR16lMRrtHSSPYg (“Echo After Midnight” is expected around July 2026 — keep it on your radar.)More ZHZ Podcast:For more episodes, guest info, and everything we’re building, visit: https://zhzpodcast.riverside.comQuick favor (helps a ton)If this episode helped you, please like, subscribe, and drop a comment: What’s one thing you need to “zoom out” on right now?Chapters:00:14 Introduction to the Gilder Era00:45 Rapid Fire with Charlie Gilder00:57 Connecting Through Music and Social Media03:22 The Journey of an Independent Artist05:37 The Gilder Era: A Movement of Self-Belief07:39 Navigating Social Media's Impact on Connection11:28 Echoes After Midnight: A New Musical Release20:15 Zooming Out: Gaining Perspective as an Artist24:49 The Importance of Music Promotion28:41 Finding Your Audience and Release Strategy31:34 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Embracing Vulnerability33:53 The Mental Challenges of Being an Artist38:00 The Power of Boldness and Self-Belief45:04 Preparing for Live Performances49:18 Incorporating Live Elements into Performances52:20 The Importance of Authenticity in Live Music53:17 Embracing Mistakes and Authenticity on Stage57:15 The Role of Support in an Artist's Journey#independentmusic #artistinterviews #zhzpodcast
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