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EPISODE · Aug 28, 2026 · 29 MIN

Stop Selling to Yourself. Sell to Your Customer

from Grazora Life · host Grazora

A small business owner had rebuilt her website more times than she could count.Every expert who looked at it had different advice. Every rebuild moved her further from where she started. And her sales didn't move.Jason told her the same thing Dan Kennedy has been saying for years: forget the experts. Figure out what your customer is saying to their spouse at 2 in the morning, and speak that language back to them. Her response: all of that had been on her first version of the website.In this episode of Grazora Life, Jason McKenzie and Brett Adams unpack the most expensive mistake small business owners make: assuming your customer wants what you want. What starts as a conversation about mayonnaise and root beer turns into a serious look at why your preferences are one of the least reliable guides to what you should be selling, and why "I am the business" thinking quietly kills companies.You'll learn:→ Why your preferences are actively misleading you when you build your offer→ The premium buyer who never shops on price (and the market you're missing if you assume everyone wants cheap)→ The 2am kitchen table conversation your customer is having (Dan Kennedy's teaching that reframes marketing)→ Why every piece of business advice is only as good as its hidden assumptions ("take a running jump" is great if you're at a pool)→ Why restaurants with encyclopedia-thick menus are almost always struggling→ The Colonel Sanders story: one dish, done better than anyone else, fried in peanut oil→ Jason's taco shop mistake: what happens when you order a hamburger at a place that doesn't sell hamburgers→ Why the 21st taco shop in your city isn't necessarily a bad idea (blue ocean advice is not always right)→ Two identical restaurants next door in Boise: one is packed, one is empty. Same food, different differentiation→ How to actually collect preference data when you don't have hundreds of customers yet→ The startup building for $100M/year before earning their first dollar→ Why "I am the business" is one of the most dangerous stories a founder can tell themselves→ How separating your identity from your business protects you from ego-driven decisionsBrett shares the taco shop lesson he wishes he had learned earlier. Jason walks through the coaching moment where a founder realized the advice they had been chasing for a year had been sitting on their own original website all along. They close on the hardest reframe of the episode: the business is what you do to fund your life, not where you get your sense of worth.If you have been telling yourself "my customer wants what I want," this is the episode that stops that story.CHAPTERS00:00 Mayonnaise, root beer, and 35 pounds02:35 What preferences have to do with business02:50 The friend who only buys premium04:06 The chair story: what premium buyers are actually paying for05:35 The website rebuilt more times than she could count06:10 The 2am kitchen table conversation (Dan Kennedy)06:58 Every piece of advice has hidden assumptions07:56 Restaurants that try to serve everything09:18 Colonel Sanders, peanut oil, and one thing done better12:53 Why not everyone wants the cheapest option13:32 The taco shop and the hamburger disaster15:39 The 21st taco shop and blue ocean advice17:03 Two identical restaurants next door: one packed, one empty18:34 How real market research works21:20 How to collect preference data as a small business23:51 The startup building for $100M before earning $126:05 The "I am the business" trap27:16 Separating identity from business28:02 Why founder ego quietly kills companies

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