EPISODE · Jun 5, 2026 · 43 MIN
Stop the Copy & Paste, For True Innovation in Drinks
from More Good Drinks · host Tash McGill
Rethinking Innovation and Authenticity in the Drinks Industry with Mikey BallDive into a compelling conversation with Mikey Ball, a product development expert at Woodward Street Distillery, as we explore what genuine innovation really means in the drinks industry. Discover how ancient techniques, authenticity, and storytelling shape truly original products, and learn practical insights on navigating the balance between tradition and modernity.In this episode:The difference between copying techniques and building original flavoursHow ancient traditions inform innovative product developmentThe importance of deep foundational knowledge and contextRecognising the role of storytelling and narrative in product positioningExamples of misleading terms such as "ultrasonic distillation"Authenticity as a marker of genuine innovationPractical approaches for elevating industry standards and consumer experiencesThe parallels between product creation behind the bar and in distilleriesHow to embed culture, technique, and authenticity into branding and packagingInsights into navigating market demands and consumer perceptionsFuture-focused topics: water sourcing, mineral analysis, and regional identityTimestamps:00:00 - Opening thoughts on what constitutes true innovation in drinks02:26 - Mikey shares insights on building flavor through ancient techniques03:35 - Deep dive into question everything approach in product development05:03 - The pitfalls of superficial innovation and copycat culture07:12 - Clarifying misleading terminology like ultrasonic distillation09:12 - Authenticity versus superficial branding in industry claims11:19 - The importance of understanding ingredients and processes13:23 - The thin line between inspiration, learning, and recipe copying16:35 - The ongoing nature of product refinement and consistency challenges18:03 - Connecting product stories with consumer perceptions20:04 - The importance of visual branding and market positioning22:20 - Embracing continuous learning and innovation as a mindset24:37 - The influence of tradition, culture, and regional identity27:03 - The story behind Chi Chi Vodka and its approach to authenticity30:36 - Navigating market demands and product differentiation32:17 - The role of narrative in brand building and consumer connection34:27 - How storytelling enhances product experience in hospitality37:42 - The power of simplicity and core technique in a saturated market40:49 - Envisioning a future where hospitality deeply values understanding45:11 - Upcoming workshops on carbonation, liquids, and innovation tools48:02 - Exploring water sourcing and mineral profiles in New ZealandResources & Links:Woodward Street DistilleryChi Chi VodkaConnect with Mikey Ball:[email protected] Get full access to More Good Drinks at www.moregooddrinks.com/subscribe
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