EPISODE · Mar 20, 2026 · 53 MIN
Street Wisdom at the Threshold: What 35 Years of Bedside Ministry Taught Me About Dying Well
from In Conversation with an End-of-Life Specialist · host pmsears-us
What does it take to stand in a room where someone is drawing their last breaths — with no clinical training, no script, and no way to fix it?Pastor Larry Wall has been doing exactly that for 35 years.As the founding pastor of Newport Church of God in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom and the visionary behind the Living Waters Hospice House, Pastor Larry brings something most bedside training programs don't cover: street wisdom, spiritual discernment, and an unshakable belief that death done well can be sacred and beautiful.In this conversation, we go deep:What terminal breathing actually looks and sounds like — and why families are rarely prepared for itThe 3 AM phone call that changed everything: Pastor Larry's first death vigil, what he did wrong, and what grace showed him insteadWhy dying people "hold on" — and the surprising question that unlocked a peaceful death within 10 minutesThe profound difference between spirituality and religion at the end of life (and why it matters more than you think)How advance directives do more than protect the dying — they protect the living from an impossible burdenThe hymn Pastor Larry sings at the bedside when someone can't let goPerspectives from London to San Antonio: Graceful Lifers John Goodey and Kathy Hamilton on children, hospice, and a mariachi band at a 95th birthday that brought a room to tears* Graceful Lifers are paid subscribers to https://patriciamsears.substack.com/ and/or alumni of Graceful Transitions Legacy Leaders Guide cohorts or Living Fully and Dying Prepared workshops.Graceful Lifer John Goodey — a former London headteacher — also shares the story of the groundbreaking intergenerational program he helped launch at St. Christopher's Hospice in Southeast London, where 9-year-olds partnered with dying patients to create art and exchange life stories. That program has since spread to every continent. If it moves you as much as it moved us, here's where to learn more:The St. Christopher's Schools Project (the original program, running since 2005): https://musicandartsinaction.net/index.php/maia/article/view/stchristophersschoolsprojectStudio DöBra (the Swedish intergenerational arts initiative inspired by St. Christopher's): https://www.döbra.se/en/projects/studio-dobra/This episode is also a window into what Living Waters Hospice House is being built to be — a place where laughter is medicine, love is the bottom line, and no one dies alone.Living Waters Hospice House is actively seeking community support. To learn more, reach out to Graceful Transitions.Interested in planning your own legacy before the crisis arrives? Join Trish for a free Legacy Leaders Guide Taster Session: https://tinyurl.com/LLG-FreeTasterSession-RegisterAbout the podcast: In Conversation with an End-of-Life Specialist is hosted by Patricia (Trish) Sears, an End-of-Life Navigator and founder of Graceful Transitions in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom, serving globally. New episodes are recorded live on the third Wednesday of each month, 4p –5p ET, with a live Q&A for Graceful Lifers.Join the Graceful Lifers community at Substack for exclusive invitations to join live audience and Q&A sessions with guests and deeper conversations about navigating life's thresholds.You can find the hub of Graceful Transitions' work at Linktr.ee/pmsears
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What does it take to stand in a room where someone is drawing their last breaths — with no clinical training, no script, and no way to fix it? Pastor Larry Wall has been doing exactly that for 35 years. As the founding pastor of Newport Church of God in Vermont's Northeast Kingdom and the visionary behind the Living Waters Hospice House, Pastor Larry brings something most bedside training programs don't cover: street wisdom, spiritual discernment, and an unshakable belief that death done well...
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