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Stretch, Charge, Flow, and Move with Daryl Liggins

Episode 356 of the Code 3 - The Firefighters Podcast podcast, hosted by Scott Orr, titled "Stretch, Charge, Flow, and Move with Daryl Liggins" was published on January 8, 2026 and runs 21 minutes.

January 8, 2026 ·21m · Code 3 - The Firefighters Podcast

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We often talk about the fireground as a chaotic environment, because it is.

But there is a tendency in the modern fire service to meet that chaos with complexity—adding more gadgets, more steps, and more theories to what is, at its heart, a simple physical battle.

When the heat is high and visibility is zero, complexity is the enemy. It slows you down. And in this job, slow can be fatal—in fact, it has been.

So, how do we strip away the noise and get back to what actually puts the fire out?

Today, we’re going to discuss the "Keep It Simple" philosophy. We’ll talk about why firefighters need to slow down, the specific mechanics of a good hose stretch, and why the most advanced piece of technology on the fireground is still a well-trained firefighter with a nozzle.

My guest today believes the answer lies in four simple words: Stretch. Charge. Flow. And Move.

Daryl Liggins is a retired Training Captain from the Oakland Fire Department, a department known for its aggressive interior culture and heavy fire duty. Throughout his career, Daryl has been a student of the engine company. He has championed the idea that mastering the basics isn’t about being "old school"—it’s about being effective.

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