Greetings welcome to another episode of Troop the Power I'm your host Tara's McKnight and tonight We will be joined by jazz and Snicks and we're gonna discuss the R&B singer Ari Lennox Which you took the social media and she has some disparaging comments about her also We're gonna discuss black relationships and submission and what it means from a male perspective and what it means from a female perspective You guys are welcome to join us I'm gonna hurry you Hi, Jaz. Hi, Snicks. Hi Same to you guys They could be considering going to war Perfect timing right? Right, well we all know that if he starts a war it stops the impeachment just seems so Oh Well definitely you know it has to be impeachment plus all this other stuff that has to be tagged along with it but Definitely if you start a war you can it delays the impeachment I just learned about this war today.
I don't know the full dynamic of it but I think that is accurate though it will delay the impeachment and I think he's desperate enough That just lets us know that he's concerned about this impeachment process And that he doesn't necessarily have in the bag if he's gone to the lint that he's gone to start a war You know, if that's the reason that we're going to work so I think it's ridiculous But you know, I mean his whole His whole office has been Right, absolutely. You know, it's nothing that I didn't expect from Donald Trump, right? So Her and together teller they look like She had a problem with that and she said basically though the my problem with this was to try to make it seem like all black men felt like Like women in the comments that kept on pouring out and she tried to make it into a black man But some black woman thing that's about that about the comments and everything else. I mean, he's got a white guy I mean the comment though.
No, no, he's not Okay Was it really said in the gist of him, you know, bashing though? Okay That's what I think that's what black women do all the time though, you know, it's nothing new just like when we were in pain Our doctors give us ibuprofen to tell us on our way and you don't think that it's serious. You know, it's just it's like with a bottom of everything and Even what is the success of what is something good is always perverted like that was perverted to see something like that, you know, I'm saying so I don't know. Unfortunately, he's a person of color that says something like that Because I was expecting it to be like a white guy.
Honestly. Yeah, a conservative of some sort Yeah, absolutely. That's what I was a little surprised that it came from a young black guy. Yeah Well, they always say the most disrespect the person in America is the black woman So my take on the situation was he had no opinion that he should have kept saying himself If you felt like they weren't the prettiest girls in the world then what?
What else you felt like you needed to say I felt like it was very disrespectful For him to comment like that, but I definitely felt like it was unnecessary for her to go in on all black men All black men do not feel like that because let me tell you these black men is worshiping Tiana Taylor They're in love with this woman. So for him to For her to say something like that. I felt Well, negative what she should have done was keep your opinion so yourself apparently somebody like it and kept pushing His opinion means absolutely nothing She brought like to idiot. That's what I felt like but for her to just go in on all black men.
I didn't like that Black man water black features, but they want to know like different races or women like the big boys Don't don't call black men are like that. No, I don't think most black men are like that. No, sorry. I don't I don't feel like that No, um in my personal experience, you know, I don't that's that's never on my mind when I'm either a guy or black guy Or you know, there's nothing there's no energy that I've received from anybody that I deal with do they exist?
Yes, but I Believe that also, but not in my experience. No So you don't feel like black men black women they get bad by black men Oh, absolutely they get bad by black men But I think it's most of what they could with the state that is an attitude more than the looks situation You know, they feel like all black men women are set or mean or something like that But as far as looks I have never felt like black men did not like the way that a black woman looks When I say this like when a woman is very opinionated or have a whole her own she gets labeled as the angry black woman and You know, you get these Black men who say that's why they were white women because they don't have all this attitude They don't they listen to their men then they don't you know go going off all the time I get more of that than the looks thing Jeff I think it's a little bit of every like when you talk about a guy that wants a white woman I think it's different reasons why I think one reason is a condition because they it was always shown I feel like Mediawise and even still today, you know That the white woman was the woman to have okay, and then on top of that they want submission even though they don't really understand That is they think submission is the right to abuse Mm-hmm. Oh, and that's not the case because no one's really teaching submission Yes, and the word about and it's this and that but even preachers aren't really breaking what submission is so I think it's just it's confusion Oh, if that makes sense, and so at the end of the day, they're gonna go with what looks good So let me stop the chance particularly you can just brought yourself Submission there's a the mental understanding or is it a woman or understanding? I don't think anybody understands it the way it should be understood You know I think that women use I think men use it on women to make them do certain things and to abuse them in certain ways And then women use it as you know They use their attitude as a defense mechanism to not submit if that makes sense like as retaliation You know to the quote-unquote abuse, but you know as a as a unit I don't think neither really understood when you get a you get a black woman a black man just a man in a one period together and They really understand submission then it's They can be successful straight up.
That's how I can get it I don't even like the word submission Why does it even have to exist why we can't be equally yoked have a understanding Being able to communicate understand gender roles and kind of want and you know, I don't like the word If I snick somebody has to be the leader in a relationship Okay, so why I can't be the cat why you can't be the captain and I be the co-captain why we gotta use the submission Makes me cringe This leads come off is sounding wrong, but you're likely to end up with another one there you get what I'm saying What yes, because you can't say that But most of us we talk about general rules of you talking about submission in the correction that I think that jazz is talking about you can't say that you want a co-captain and you guys be on the same Playing feel somebody has to make the decisions and somebody has to be a protective But but you can't fly the plane without the co-captain what the plane cannot take off without a cool captain Because I think men don't Understand the concept of the submission situation. I think they're using it as control like just I think they're using it as if you can't Do certain things that we can't be together. I just don't like the word. I understand what you're saying it makes a little bit sense But I don't like to work Like I don't feel like the cat captain and co-captain That's I think that's gonna be the captain.
Well, you have to well The thing is is is taking out a context in the word of God and you got that part is supposed to be submit to one another out of Whoever's correct. Yeah, that's that's what they miss that point. That's what I'm trying to write So we so we allow them to reverse that and then you in turn not just you but many of us then we don't like the word submit Absolutely, that's it. We're not gonna agree with that.
So so it's like, you know Yeah, we submit out of obedience to our husbands and our husband submit to us because they have to love us, right? Absolutely. I think men and women receive love in different ways So for a man, I think and I think I posted this on my Facebook at one time because men receive respect as love Oh, you know and women receive affection and listening to them as love too So it's all in how each part are each sex receives love in turn receive submission if that makes sense definitely makes sense So it's like we you know, they've the words submit to your wives and you'll be I mean submit to your husband's We submit to your husband's and you'll be in this and that is the first thing but remember It's meant in appropriate nor fence tires, but it's men that are preachers and they're pushing it So even they have perverted so then it leaves a bad taste in a woman's mouth But at the end of the day is still a word of God so that's why you have to read it for yourself because If we depending on what they told us and we would never know that before that is submit to one another out of reverence for Christ But they don't read that part. So how do men How do men submit?
I think I think I think men submit by loving their lives, you know, not out of control but out of unconditional love and affection and listening to their wives, you know understanding Right or trying making the effort to try because they're not gonna not gonna understand their wives all the time Just like women are not gonna understand their husband So, you know, I think it's just how we all receive love and being able to understand what this is how my partner will receive my love for him So this this this is in that invites versa So when you know how the other part received then you can make the initiative and be intentional about how you how you execute and embrace that That's why I say if we if we understood what submission was then we would be more successful in our relationships And then we can create these goals and these intentions like a couple of weeks before we discussed I was in last week Okay, so I'm gonna say that I agree with you, James As far as that goes, so how do women submit to me? I'm not going to send you Okay with me personally, you know because I can't I'm not a counselor really but for me, you know, I can What's the word I can embrace the fact that the man is the head of house? I don't feel less of a Partner in this if I say what my husband is to get a house Okay, now until he abuses that Then you know until then I have no problem with that So it makes it easier for the wife to submit in that way That makes sense, you know, so No, like I don't have a problem with submission, you know, I have a I cringe at the word also But then I have to get over that I have to get over that and look at the bigger picture Because as long as we cringe at and we try to find out what a similar Super submission which you're not gonna like any of them because ultimately it's the same thing so none of them are gonna sound good I agree. I absolutely agree.
I have no no rebuttal for that, but but again, I'm okay with being the co-captain To the point I'm only using it because again, I feel like some men abuse the submission I'm gonna say I'm okay with you flying me to Cuba as a captain As being the co-captain but I have to at least understand and know in my heart that you know the directions to get there Absolutely But but you cannot just some women and I hate to say it like this some women are so Eager to be in relationships that they call captain a bus that has only three tires Oh, yes, listen as women we can see the three tires, but again in our mind we can what's afraid that they use I can see his potential But you don't even know if you know how to change the tire first So what I'm saying is if the plane Is available and willing and able then I don't have any problem with being the co-captain Okay, so I think it's okay, so in order for you to fly a plane you have to be a qualified co-captain Okay, that's why I'll be getting on planes. That's why but most of the trust is people would allow someone to fly But I mean like if you see somebody that has potential Captain and they don't really throw a plane before they're why you get on plane? They just have destruction But we do some what we do as women with that's the bad relationships that we get it Because it happens and that's just reality it happens even men get on planes that they know I think they when we go on a bus with three wheels only now know what if the guy can change it because in their mind they can control Oh, listen, I'm never said that the angle submission is only one sided Okay Never say that I'm saying could be either way what I'm saying is a man could get on a bad bus a woman can get on a bad bus We've all done it But what I'm saying as far as being the co-captain Experience okay Experience I just do not want to get on The bus That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying.
Oh, listen. I'm not saying I've never done it. I've been there done that That's what I'm saying What I'm saying round two I have to get on as the co-captain or I can't get on And I may be left at the airport for a long time But I'm not getting on the plane unless I could be co-captain Basically it just sounds like what she's saying is she's not putting a hundred percent trust a hundred percent faith in another human Regardless if this is the person that you know, you're gonna spend a portion of your life with You know, there is there is a little more give and take in her upcoming Relationship that's what it sounds like to me and I mean you can understand that, you know, if you come in from a place of you know A different experience like I'm all right absolutely. Yeah, absolutely I mean you got some in that you know, I don't know their second go around they're willing to give a little more They're willing to let go of something to rain and let their woman, you know hold a little more and you know as far as I Hate this use the word power, but just authority or you know, whatever it is that makes the relationship work and some for some relationships It works you got marriages that work in the woman do everything the man may go to work and he may be you know He may be the the brave winner, but she's running everything else.
She's dealing with the checks. Not him. She's a machine You know, and you can't be upset if a man doesn't allow that in his life That's fine. It's just like the man can't be upset if the woman doesn't just sit back and allow him to make all the decisions So fish it male leader Depends on what you call success just because they're married and you know doesn't mean that they're successful in You know like in a friendship or a struggle to have you It can just be a humdrum situation and people on the outside may say oh, that's successful because they say no It may not be it may be successful because they broke up.
Yeah, no, it's just depends on what you call success I mean everybody's different partners are different There are things that women can bring out of a man and another woman can't bring out of him in vice versa So it really depends on the individual and the union it you know how it works Yeah, because I already know you had strong and Had strong and I know you believe in submission. I know you believe that the man is they head, you know, I think he's extreme with it I think that I think that tyros is extremely traditional and that is traditional and You know because that I think that's a part of tyros is I bring it and it's not their own that I come from the book So, I mean, I can't call it broken I can just see that the father wasn't there but to me it wasn't really broken all right So again, you know, we can talk about we turn it from a broken home or or for another word an unsuccessful household But me as an adult I can look back and say it was not an unsuccessful about it. All right I must say who deems it unsuccessful society right Everything that society stays, you know, because we always actually put that wrong My definition is a step of a successful initiative and even a world worthwhile goal meaning that you guys come in with good intentions You guys are already happy you're not trying to make each other happy you guys want to share happiness you guys create goals And you're keeping the government and nobody exploits relationship Am I agreeing with I definitely agree with everything that you're saying you did not use the word that were To be submissive now, but I'm not looking for her to be a slave I think I like that I'm thinking in terms of how Jan said it, you know, trusting me to make the decisions and just you know Fall in back What is the words that I don't like No, so tired so this thing this is my question to you when you say trust you to make all the decisions Does she have input on these decisions and then whatever her input is it may be taken or not taken? But if you don't agree with the input is there a happy medium I'm gonna make a final decision and I'm not saying I'm not saying I'm not saying to consider what she said because I just Sometimes I can't be here strong sometimes I could be so I Hated good sometimes I'll be very not you know And certain things I don't see right there, so it's great in it and just calm me down.
It's just something different I think because I could be like this sometimes if that makes sense Okay, but you know that sacrifice please I'm sorry not sacrifice compromise please a big Right there No That's not the same Compromise though if you make a decision or say you okay. Yeah, you got to figure it out you bring it to your wife Because you say that you don't have a problem bringing the whatever you came up with to the wife, right? But then you ultimately want to be the one to make that decision well sometimes that's where compromise comes in And that's why you don't like the word so Bit just like the woman has to be a little bit the man has to bend to that may not be a word any of us Right now you be you may be making a situation You may be making a decision on something that is not conducive for you But you don't see outside of that because maybe you've gotten to the point where you're pied headed in your head strong and head strong And so your wife sees it so then she's trying to get you to compromise and then you like no Because ultimately I want to make the decision no and then you find yourself in a situation So, you know, I think that that's why it's important everyone has a voice it's a partnership Okay, you can't make all the decisions all the time because then you got to understand that there are some decisions that the wife is Want to make that she may have her head made up about it And she comes to you and whatever the case and you may object it and she still want to do it You have to be okay with that too if you're in So if neither one of your compromising so then you want just complete submission and I'm sorry That's just how the where we live it in and that's why I So that is the reason why I don't like to use the other word around tyros I Don't like to use every he wants to run a dictatorship in a relationship to me I think I think I think when I say certain things I think Because I'm so passionate about it that it comes off as me running the dictatorship Giving you better words to use and you said you don't like it and you want to go Okay, but But No, no, no, what he's saying what I'm saying Okay, what somebody having their you know their forms in the raking is and we tell me hey listen We shouldn't go this way we should go this way and I say well maybe we should go this way and you say well if we go that way It's gonna have both okay. Wait, just what you absolutely correct.
That's cool. You'll be tyros is like what we going to the phone because I see They got a minor problem You gotta know Yeah, but it's like you want to kick it You want to and it's be honest about that you want the submission But then you want your woman to also have online, okay and be able to make our decisions But then you also want to make all decisions come on I do not think that you date women that don't have their own mind I don't get that from from being around you. I don't think you can deal with The person that you think you need yeah, okay, I didn't want to say that that's the word I was trying to see a dummy but I'm sorry the level the level of submission that you're requiring You're not gonna attract You're if you're a certain type of person and you're you're this upcoming mogul. I'm putting this out there and You turn around and think that you're gonna Actually be able to deal with the person that you're requiring that type of submission form is not gonna happen Sorry, it's just not gonna happen.
It's she that person would even fit your lifestyle. She wouldn't fit into your Agenda it just doesn't work even though you want it. I'm sorry. You will probably will not get it If you ever get it, you will never be happy Which you got not It's just the fact that I just seen examples my whole life of strong women, right?
I just seen them Not in a dominating Not in a dominating way but in a way of accepting a leadership if that makes sense I think you saw what went on Outside of the bedroom doors I'm anyway, okay And I'm not saying that in a sexual way I'm saying you can say all of this in front of kids and we can make it sound good But when we go on the room, I'm gonna tell you my opinion and then if it were we go work it out Because if you're doing if you've been around with them strong women trust me they had old opinions. They just expressed it When it was a good time But This was a short show Because I got a thing to do and I got to finish up some stuff with the documentary stuff like that But before we go on what you guys go ahead tell people what you got going on and leave us for the passenger statement if you don't mind James I'm coming to you I'm grateful to the acid to be on this podcast, you know It's always a pleasure is always eye-opening to get different perspectives even from the same sex and opposite sex As far as we have anything going on and nothing specifically just doing some private commissions for Some customers are clients. I say an art and portrait and tattoo design, but as far as something positive Just know that you know trust in your partner is number one, you know compromise is great Submission is not the devil though. It can't be perverted, you know So know that when you go on into friendships and relationships and um, that's all that I have Snakes what you got?
Well, um after the last podcast I was very intrigued by jazz's Comments every day she gave and I had to actually text how it was like jazz is actually like a good light for the podcast I did learn something I did learn something and from you and I definitely gonna take it since 2020 with me Just be intentional. I think I was not that in 2019 and I definitely want to be very intentional in my thoughts my relationships My situations and everything that I do and I hope that you guys do too because it just makes more sense So I just want to leave with that 2020 we gonna use the intentional with anything that you do Amen We're gonna raise our standards Absolutely If you're listening to Awesome I'm gonna turn this into like a visual podcast so people can see it I think I discussed it with both of you guys separately, but everyone's listen to a visual podcast I'm just running out of space and just go ahead and just shoot from there and you know I'll put up on YouTube Amazon Prime something like that something like that. I think I'm gonna be fly for people see you guys That's cool. I'm all for it.
Yeah But um, we just brought to the power to guys. Have a good night and happy new year