EPISODE · Dec 5, 2025 · 58 MIN
Substack’s Lizza Problem & Spotify Wrapped Revelations
from The Grill Room · host Audacy | Puck
Julia and Dylan revisit the endlessly looping Nuzzi-Lizza saga, questioning whether we’re still covering journalism or merely documenting a public breakup. They dissect the collateral damage of the drama: Substack’s structural vulnerabilities, Vanity Fair’s brand calculus, and the reputational fallout for both combatants. Plus, they swap their Spotify Wrapped revelations and discuss how Spotify turned an annual recap into a global marketing juggernaut. Learn more about Starbucks industry-leading benefits at starbucks.com/partners.
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Julia and Dylan revisit the endlessly looping Nuzzi-Lizza saga, questioning whether we’re still covering journalism or merely documenting a public breakup. They dissect the collateral damage of the drama: Substack’s structural vulnerabilities, Vanity Fair’s brand calculus, and the reputational fallout for both combatants. Plus, they swap their Spotify Wrapped revelations and discuss how Spotify turned an annual recap into a global marketing juggernaut. Learn more about Starbucks industry-leading benefits at starbucks.com/partners.
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