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EPISODE · Sep 8, 2026 · 1H 5M

Success Doesn’t Mean Slowing Down | ft. Dr. Safiya Noble

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For years, we were told that algorithms were neutral. Just math. Just code. Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble asked a different question, and it changed the way the world thinks about technology.In this episode of B The Way Forward, host Brenda Darden Wilkerson sits down with the scholar, author, and educator whose groundbreaking book Algorithms of Oppression helped spark a global conversation about algorithmic bias years before most of us had the language for it. Dr. Noble takes us back to the beginning: a working-poor childhood full of questions about how the world really works, fifteen years inside corporate telecom, a front-row seat to the dot-com boom and bust, and a PhD earned at forty-one; proof that the timeline you were handed is not the only timeline available to you.She also gets honest about the cost. About Black women stepping back from leadership because they turn around and find no one behind them. About the online violence pushing women and girls out of public life. And about why, right now, retreat is a luxury none of us can afford.Connect with Safiya on InstagramWe Learned AboutThe search that exposed a system.Code is a language — and languages are subjective.Technology and humanity were separated by design.There are now two education systems, and AI is deepening the divide.Everyone has a lane, and everyone has leverage.Chapters:​​00:00 Welcome Back: Presence, Passion, and Purpose01:28 Meet Dr. Safiya Umoja Noble02:17 Curiosity, a Working-Poor Childhood, and a PhD at 4104:23 Corporate Tech, the Dot-Com Bust, and a Skeptic's Eye08:00 Why We Ever Believed Technology Was Neutral09:53 From Chat Rooms to Search Engines12:45 Gen Z Doesn't Trust Search Anymore13:44 The Search That Started It All16:33 Designing the Study: What the Data Revealed19:22 Algorithms Are Not "Just Math"20:53 The Bifurcation of Technology and the Humanities22:20 What If Women Had Held the Power and the Resources?24:35 Eugenics, Race Science, and the History of CS26:25 Techno-Solutionism and the Defunding of the Humanities28:15 Sabbatical, Stand-Up Comedy, and Staying Present30:03 The Cognitive Cost of AI Dependence33:22 When Being Device-Free Becomes a Luxury34:49 Who Gets Chatbots and Who Gets Teachers37:23 Data Centers, Water Bills, and Community Pushback40:58 "We Are the Optimists"42:19 Tell the Truth44:17 An Ecosystem of Truth-Tellers47:16 Find Your Lane: Where Everyday People Have Power49:51 Pensions, Portfolios, and Pro-Social Technology51:53 Trained vs. Educated54:02 Advice for the Exhausted Changemaker56:08 Building "Data in Society" at UCLA57:26 Gen Z and Values-Aligned Work58:59 Black Women, Leadership, and the Cost of Retreat01:02:31 Closing Reflections#BTheWayForward #AnitaB #SafiyaNoble #AlgorithmsOfOppression #AlgorithmicBias #WomenInTech #ResponsibleAI #TechEquity

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