Success from the Green: PGA Pro Tips with Kevin Dougherty

Embark on a journey to success from the lush greens of golf with our special guest, Kevin Dougherty. In this episode, Kevin imparts his invaluable tips and experiences, revealing the secrets that have led to triumph on the golf course. From building a strong support system to refining daily fundamentals, join us as we explore the green pathways to success in both golf and life. **Key Highlights:** 1. Green Glory: Kevin’s Proven Path to Success – Uncover the strategies behind Kevin’s victories on the green, from a steadfast support system to unwavering self-belief. 2. Nutrition for Champions: Fueling the Golfing Journey – Delve into Kevin’s commitment to high-energy nutrition and a well-balanced diet for peak physical and mental performance. 3. Swing to Win: Kevin’s Tips for Aspiring Golfers- Receive expert advice for amateur golfers, focusing on daily fundamentals and strategic gameplay to elevate your skills. 4. Putting Precision: Kevin’s Green Mastery Unveiled – Explore Kevin’s daily putting drill using two dimes and a black dot, a simple yet impactful practice for precision on the greens. 5. Mental Mastership: Unlocking the Golfer’s Mindset – Gain insights into the mental resilience and mindfulness practices that contribute to Kevin’s success in golf and beyond. Join us as we uncover the journey to success from the green, drawing inspiration and tips from the seasoned pro, Kevin Dougherty. Tune in for a blend of golfing wisdom and life lessons, and stay connected for more episodes featuring extraordinary individuals in the realms of sports and personal development. CHECK OUT THE VIDEO INTERVIEW TRANSCRIPTION 00:00:16.000 –> 00:00:18.000 I’m your host, Brett Gilliland. Today, I’ve got Kevin Doughtery 00:00:18.000 –> 00:00:20.000 with me. Kevin, how you doing, my man? 00:00:21.000 –> 00:00:23.000 I’m doing great. How about you? I’m doing 00:00:23.000 –> 00:00:25.000 great. I’m here in Dallas, Texas. Right? 00:00:25.000 –> 00:00:28.000 Yes, sir. It’s where home is, and finally 00:00:28.000 –> 00:00:30.000 getting to spend some time at home. I 00:00:30.000 –> 00:00:32.000 mean, Kevin after the season ended, 00:00:33.000 –> 00:00:35.000 we’ve been on the road everywhere. So it’s 00:00:35.000 –> 00:00:38.000 definitely really nice just to be home and 00:00:39.000 –> 00:00:39.000 in place. 00:00:40.000 –> 00:00:41.000 Nice night at home. Isn’t it? Yeah, as 00:00:41.000 –> 00:00:42.000 you’ll you’ll find, because I think you got 00:00:42.000 –> 00:00:44.000 a little one. So as those kids get 00:00:44.000 –> 00:00:45.000 bigger, even if you’re, if you are at 00:00:45.000 –> 00:00:47.000 home, sometimes you’re not at home. So, 00:00:48.000 –> 00:00:50.000 well, listen, man. You are Kevin Doughtery. You 00:00:50.000 –> 00:00:52.000 are a PGA tour, 00:00:53.000 –> 00:00:55.000 player. You know, you’re not just a PGA 00:00:55.000 –> 00:00:57.000 tour cardholder. You are PGA tour player, my 00:00:57.000 –> 00:00:59.000 man. And so, you know, we go way 00:00:59.000 –> 00:01:02.000 back two years ago. We got them elevated 00:01:02.000 –> 00:01:04.000 together. You look like a golfer. I think 00:01:04.000 –> 00:01:05.000 had my sticks with me. I had the 00:01:05.000 –> 00:01:08.000 privilege of playing Muirfield village. You were, at 00:01:08.000 –> 00:01:10.000 a golf tournament, I think, at the Corn 00:01:10.000 –> 00:01:12.000 Ferry and made for the qualifier, if I’m 00:01:12.000 –> 00:01:14.000 not mistaken. And We struck up a conversation. 00:01:14.000 –> 00:01:16.000 We ended up being next door neighbors. We 00:01:16.000 –> 00:01:18.000 started phoning each other on Instagram, and now 00:01:18.000 –> 00:01:20.000 here we are at a podcast. You just 00:01:20.000 –> 00:01:21.000 qualified for the PGA tour. 00:01:22.000 –> 00:01:23.000 But before we dive into any of that 00:01:23.000 –> 00:01:26.000 stuff, man, I wanna start for our listeners, 00:01:26.000 –> 00:01:29.000 about a massive lesson that I’ve learned, through 00:01:29.000 –> 00:01:31.000 this whole thing. So I’m gonna brag on 00:01:31.000 –> 00:01:33.000 Kevin for a minute. I, reached out to 00:01:33.000 –> 00:01:36.000 Kevin. Kevin was very nice, gave us of 00:01:36.000 –> 00:01:38.000 his time. We did a podcast. Well, 00:01:39.000 –> 00:01:40.000 Brett had a computer that was a little 00:01:40.000 –> 00:01:42.000 bit older. And, 00:01:42.000 –> 00:01:43.000 my, 00:01:43.000 –> 00:01:46.000 technology, let’s say, wasn’t great. And it happened 00:01:46.000 –> 00:01:47.000 on a couple guest, and I didn’t think 00:01:47.000 –> 00:01:48.000 much of it. I thought it was just 00:01:48.000 –> 00:01:50.000 a rainy day. It’s bad wifi, but it 00:01:50.000 –> 00:01:52.000 really was bad on our time. 00:01:52.000 –> 00:01:55.000 And I got off. I was so embarrassed 00:01:55.000 –> 00:01:56.000 I’m like, my god. I hope I can 00:01:56.000 –> 00:01:58.000 idiot. You know, I’ve had all these guests 00:01:58.000 –> 00:02:00.000 on. And now here, Kevin has to give 00:02:00.000 –> 00:02:01.000 us his time. He thinks I’m this terrible 00:02:01.000 –> 00:02:03.000 person. And and in our minds, we build 00:02:03.000 –> 00:02:05.000 these fears. And the people listen to this, 00:02:05.000 –> 00:02:07.000 I’m sorry to do all the talking, Kevin, 00:02:07.000 –> 00:02:08.000 but we put it in our minds. It 00:02:08.000 –> 00:02:10.000 never blows up to our magnitude that we 00:02:10.000 –> 00:02:12.000 believe it to be. Right? A hundred percent. 00:02:13.000 –> 00:02:13.000 And 00:02:14.000 –> 00:02:15.000 I said, you know what, man, I gotta 00:02:15.000 –> 00:02:17.000 reach out to this guy on Instagram and 00:02:17.000 –> 00:02:18.000 apologize 00:02:18.000 –> 00:02:20.000 and, you know, tell him I was terrible 00:02:20.000 –> 00:02:22.000 as a host and 00:02:22.000 –> 00:02:24.000 kinda eat crow, and then humbly asked him 00:02:24.000 –> 00:02:26.000 if he’d even be open to doing it 00:02:26.000 –> 00:02:28.000 again. And here’s what I learned, ladies and 00:02:28.000 –> 00:02:30.000 gentlemen. He said, yes. 00:02:30.000 –> 00:02:32.000 Let’s do it. And I’m like, you know, 00:02:32.000 –> 00:02:34.000 in life, we put people on pedestals. Here’s 00:02:34.000 –> 00:02:37.000 a PGA tour player. He’s gonna say, no. 00:02:37.000 –> 00:02:39.000 What an idiot Brett is? And all those 00:02:39.000 –> 00:02:41.000 fears never came true. So, Kevin, you are 00:02:41.000 –> 00:02:43.000 the man. I appreciate it. Sorry for the 00:02:43.000 –> 00:02:44.000 long intro, but I think it says a 00:02:44.000 –> 00:02:46.000 lot about you and your character and who 00:02:46.000 –> 00:02:46.000 you are. 00:02:47.000 –> 00:02:49.000 Yeah. No. Definitely. Mean, 00:02:49.000 –> 00:02:52.000 just because of what I do for a 00:02:52.000 –> 00:02:54.000 living doesn’t change who I am as a 00:02:54.000 –> 00:02:57.000 person. And I’m technically, I’m at fault as 00:02:57.000 –> 00:02:59.000 well. I mean, I completely 00:03:00.000 –> 00:03:03.000 I completely whipped our makeup interview 00:03:04.000 –> 00:03:06.000 We’re back from Kevin on Monday, 00:03:07.000 –> 00:03:09.000 and we had a schedule for Tuesday. And 00:03:09.000 –> 00:03:12.000 about 05:00 on Tuesday, I was going through 00:03:12.000 –> 00:03:13.000 my calendar. I’m like, 00:03:14.000 –> 00:03:16.000 oh, no. Oh, no. 00:03:17.000 –> 00:03:18.000 Hey. I thought it was the next day. 00:03:18.000 –> 00:03:21.000 And So that’s my fault, but now I’m 00:03:21.000 –> 00:03:22.000 glad that we can kind of make it 00:03:22.000 –> 00:03:25.000 work and just kind of both being easygoing. 00:03:26.000 –> 00:03:28.000 I think that’s pretty important these days to 00:03:28.000 –> 00:03:30.000 feel. As if a lot of people have 00:03:30.000 –> 00:03:31.000 kind of lost that easygoing, 00:03:32.000 –> 00:03:34.000 just kind of roll with the punches and 00:03:34.000 –> 00:03:36.000 see how everything turns out. Yep. I think 00:03:36.000 –> 00:03:38.000 we both would agree. If if these are 00:03:38.000 –> 00:03:40.000 our biggest problems in life, we’re pretty damn 00:03:40.000 –> 00:03:41.000 lucky, aren’t we? 00:03:41.000 –> 00:03:44.000 We’re doing okay. Yeah. We’re doing just fine. 00:03:44.000 –> 00:03:45.000 So let me give a little backstory here. 00:03:45.000 –> 00:03:47.000 So another thing I wanna talk about, Kevin, 00:03:47.000 –> 00:03:49.000 is, I found in my research to be 00:03:49.000 –> 00:03:51.000 awesome, is and I know you guys talked 00:03:51.000 –> 00:03:53.000 about this on, on the subpar podcast with 00:03:53.000 –> 00:03:55.000 Colton Oss and the sleaze, and those guys 00:03:55.000 –> 00:03:56.000 are hilarious. They’re awesome. 00:03:57.000 –> 00:03:58.000 Colts coming on soon. I told you, and 00:03:58.000 –> 00:04:00.000 I’ve already had the sleaze. So they’re good 00:04:00.000 –> 00:04:01.000 guys. But, 00:04:02.000 –> 00:04:03.000 people talk about it, and it it’s your 00:04:03.000 –> 00:04:05.000 perseverance. You know, you you almost made it 00:04:05.000 –> 00:04:07.000 on the tour a couple times You know, 00:04:07.000 –> 00:04:09.000 I watched that chip numerous times. It was, 00:04:09.000 –> 00:04:11.000 you know, an inch from going in and 00:04:11.000 –> 00:04:13.000 and did not go in, which would’ve got 00:04:13.000 –> 00:04:15.000 your PGA tour card, thirty one years old. 00:04:15.000 –> 00:04:18.000 And now you earn it. Talk about that 00:04:18.000 –> 00:04:19.000 grind, man, and talk about that journey of 00:04:19.000 –> 00:04:21.000 what you’ve learned to get you to where 00:04:21.000 –> 00:04:23.000 you are now, getting right start on the 00:04:23.000 –> 00:04:24.000 PGA tour. 00:04:25.000 –> 00:04:28.000 Yeah. I just think I’ve surrounded myself with 00:04:28.000 –> 00:04:29.000 an incredibly 00:04:30.000 –> 00:04:30.000 close 00:04:31.000 –> 00:04:32.000 small circle 00:04:32.000 –> 00:04:33.000 of support. 00:04:33.000 –> 00:04:34.000 And 00:04:34.000 –> 00:04:36.000 they’ve kinda beaten it into me that, 00:04:37.000 –> 00:04:39.000 I mean, the ultimate goal is is not 00:04:39.000 –> 00:04:41.000 making the PJ tour. It’s not 00:04:42.000 –> 00:04:44.000 winning a PJ Tourpan. It’s not winning a 00:04:44.000 –> 00:04:47.000 major championship. I mean, it’s enjoying this journey 00:04:48.000 –> 00:04:49.000 and kind of learning 00:04:50.000 –> 00:04:52.000 as you go along the way, and I 00:04:52.000 –> 00:04:54.000 feel like I’ve done a job of that. 00:04:54.000 –> 00:04:57.000 And that’s definitely been something that’s kept me 00:04:57.000 –> 00:04:57.000 going, 00:04:58.000 –> 00:04:59.000 even in those 00:04:59.000 –> 00:05:02.000 really tough times, like, twenty eighteen when I 00:05:02.000 –> 00:05:02.000 finished 00:05:03.000 –> 00:05:05.000 twenty six, and the next year I had 00:05:05.000 –> 00:05:07.000 a pretty good chance. And 00:05:07.000 –> 00:05:09.000 just made a debacle of the last hole 00:05:09.000 –> 00:05:09.000 and 00:05:10.000 –> 00:05:12.000 just having a very positive 00:05:12.000 –> 00:05:15.000 set of parents, a positive wife, my brother, 00:05:16.000 –> 00:05:18.000 all my coaches, and then that small circle 00:05:18.000 –> 00:05:20.000 of friends that I mean I pretty much 00:05:20.000 –> 00:05:21.000 called my family. 00:05:21.000 –> 00:05:22.000 They’re all in it with me and that 00:05:22.000 –> 00:05:23.000 just kinda 00:05:24.000 –> 00:05:26.000 keeps the train going. Yeah. So I heard 00:05:26.000 –> 00:05:27.000 on a podcast you were on. It might 00:05:27.000 –> 00:05:28.000 have been the subpar when, 00:05:29.000 –> 00:05:31.000 I think you sat down with your dad. 00:05:31.000 –> 00:05:33.000 Right? And your dad You said, hey, I 00:05:33.000 –> 00:05:34.000 don’t know if I wanna do this anymore. 00:05:34.000 –> 00:05:36.000 And what what’d your dad tell you? 00:05:37.000 –> 00:05:39.000 Yeah. So it was that would’ve been a 00:05:39.000 –> 00:05:40.000 COVID year. 00:05:40.000 –> 00:05:42.000 And it was kinda like the wraparound season. 00:05:42.000 –> 00:05:43.000 So it was a long season. 00:05:44.000 –> 00:05:45.000 Nobody really knew 00:05:46.000 –> 00:05:48.000 what was gonna happen if we were just 00:05:48.000 –> 00:05:50.000 gonna stop playing again if COVID spiked up 00:05:50.000 –> 00:05:52.000 again or whatever. So I’m just kinda in 00:05:52.000 –> 00:05:53.000 a rut and 00:05:53.000 –> 00:05:54.000 I felt like I was 00:05:55.000 –> 00:05:57.000 working hard and I was traveling with two 00:05:57.000 –> 00:06:00.000 of my really good buddies that had kids. 00:06:00.000 –> 00:06:02.000 I didn’t have a daughter at the time, 00:06:02.000 –> 00:06:04.000 and they were on the end of their 00:06:04.000 –> 00:06:06.000 careers. So they were talking about 00:06:07.000 –> 00:06:10.000 kinda wrapping it up, and I kinda fell 00:06:10.000 –> 00:06:12.000 into that a little bit. Like Yeah. Easy 00:06:12.000 –> 00:06:15.000 to do. Yeah. They seem to be just 00:06:15.000 –> 00:06:16.000 fine with it and 00:06:16.000 –> 00:06:19.000 So it was after an event, and I 00:06:19.000 –> 00:06:21.000 I believe I missed a cut in Utah 00:06:21.000 –> 00:06:23.000 and it was a quick flight back to 00:06:23.000 –> 00:06:25.000 my hometown in Marietta, California. 00:06:26.000 –> 00:06:27.000 Sat down my dad. He was, hey, you 00:06:27.000 –> 00:06:30.000 just you kinda seem a little off. Like, 00:06:30.000 –> 00:06:32.000 what’s going on? And I told him, like, 00:06:32.000 –> 00:06:33.000 I just don’t know 00:06:33.000 –> 00:06:35.000 if I wanna do this anymore, I mean, 00:06:35.000 –> 00:06:37.000 I vividly remember him saying, like, 00:06:39.000 –> 00:06:41.000 right now, you don’t have 00:06:42.000 –> 00:06:43.000 a child. You have 00:06:44.000 –> 00:06:47.000 a very supportive set of parents, a very 00:06:47.000 –> 00:06:48.000 supportive set of in laws, 00:06:49.000 –> 00:06:50.000 an unbelievable life. 00:06:51.000 –> 00:06:51.000 And 00:06:52.000 –> 00:06:54.000 if you can kinda get the same back 00:06:54.000 –> 00:06:56.000 on track, like, you can provide for your 00:06:56.000 –> 00:06:57.000 family 00:06:57.000 –> 00:06:59.000 in more ways and just financially. I mean, 00:07:00.000 –> 00:07:02.000 my daughter’s been on my daughter’s been on 00:07:02.000 –> 00:07:05.000 forty flights probably. And she’s not even not 00:07:05.000 –> 00:07:06.000 even a year and a half old and 00:07:07.000 –> 00:07:11.000 different countries. And so and that kinda sparked 00:07:11.000 –> 00:07:13.000 something in me. Like, this is something that 00:07:13.000 –> 00:07:15.000 I really do wanna do. I’m just need 00:07:15.000 –> 00:07:17.000 to get away from just trying to take 00:07:17.000 –> 00:07:20.000 the easy way out and almost play victim 00:07:20.000 –> 00:07:22.000 a little bit. And, I mean, that was 00:07:22.000 –> 00:07:22.000 an amazing 00:07:23.000 –> 00:07:26.000 very intimate, like, conversation. I had, like, very 00:07:26.000 –> 00:07:26.000 touching. 00:07:26.000 –> 00:07:28.000 Yeah. Which I think is huge because it 00:07:28.000 –> 00:07:30.000 whether it’s your dad or just a a 00:07:30.000 –> 00:07:32.000 friend, a mentor. I mean, I think sometimes 00:07:32.000 –> 00:07:34.000 you need to hear. You got you got 00:07:34.000 –> 00:07:36.000 people in your corner, and thinking about your 00:07:36.000 –> 00:07:38.000 success and and and believing in your success. 00:07:38.000 –> 00:07:40.000 Right? And I always say as a leader, 00:07:40.000 –> 00:07:41.000 sometimes we have to believe in somebody’s success 00:07:41.000 –> 00:07:43.000 more than they believe in themselves, don’t you 00:07:43.000 –> 00:07:43.000 think? 00:07:44.000 –> 00:07:46.000 Oh, a hundred percent. And 00:07:46.000 –> 00:07:48.000 just going back to kinda small circle of 00:07:48.000 –> 00:07:51.000 support, and it kinda just dawned on me. 00:07:51.000 –> 00:07:52.000 But that same season, 00:07:52.000 –> 00:07:54.000 we’re kinda getting towards the end of the 00:07:54.000 –> 00:07:55.000 year, and 00:07:56.000 –> 00:07:58.000 it was kinda in that same time frame 00:07:58.000 –> 00:07:59.000 where I had had that conversation with my 00:07:59.000 –> 00:08:01.000 dad. My coach is out with me and 00:08:01.000 –> 00:08:02.000 He’s like, 00:08:03.000 –> 00:08:04.000 no matter what you end up doing, like, 00:08:04.000 –> 00:08:06.000 we’re always gonna be 00:08:06.000 –> 00:08:08.000 close. I mean, this relationship we 00:08:09.000 –> 00:08:10.000 golf is 00:08:10.000 –> 00:08:12.000 business, but then outside of that, it’s friendship. 00:08:13.000 –> 00:08:14.000 And because all I want you to do 00:08:14.000 –> 00:08:17.000 is just kinda give it your Gilliland 00:08:17.000 –> 00:08:18.000 just make sure you get to the finish 00:08:18.000 –> 00:08:20.000 line before you make up your mind. 00:08:20.000 –> 00:08:23.000 And that was just like 00:08:23.000 –> 00:08:25.000 another one of those sparks. And, I mean, 00:08:25.000 –> 00:08:27.000 just kind of conversations like that got me 00:08:27.000 –> 00:08:29.000 through one of the, like, my down years 00:08:29.000 –> 00:08:30.000 and my career. And, 00:08:31.000 –> 00:08:33.000 I mean, I look back at them now 00:08:33.000 –> 00:08:34.000 and I’m like holy cows or, 00:08:35.000 –> 00:08:36.000 I mean, pivotal 00:08:37.000 –> 00:08:39.000 kind of turn, like, times or whatever you 00:08:39.000 –> 00:08:41.000 wanna call it in in my career. 00:08:42.000 –> 00:08:44.000 So very, very grateful for those 00:08:45.000 –> 00:08:46.000 conversations and 00:08:47.000 –> 00:08:49.000 So talk about the preparation. I think, again, 00:08:49.000 –> 00:08:51.000 let’s let’s take the golf course back to 00:08:51.000 –> 00:08:53.000 the board room here for work, for leaders, 00:08:53.000 –> 00:08:55.000 and, people listening to this, is 00:08:55.000 –> 00:08:56.000 your preparation. 00:08:57.000 –> 00:08:59.000 What what’s that light for you on off 00:08:59.000 –> 00:09:01.000 weeks Obviously, now you’re getting ready to go. 00:09:01.000 –> 00:09:03.000 You probably start what in Hawaii in January 00:09:03.000 –> 00:09:04.000 here in the next month. 00:09:05.000 –> 00:09:08.000 Yeah. And so what’s that preparation like in 00:09:08.000 –> 00:09:10.000 the next thirty days. Obviously, Brett the holidays 00:09:10.000 –> 00:09:11.000 in there. But what what’s that like for 00:09:11.000 –> 00:09:12.000 you? 00:09:12.000 –> 00:09:14.000 Yeah. So it’s been amazing. 00:09:15.000 –> 00:09:18.000 Just kinda have some downtime and focus on 00:09:19.000 –> 00:09:20.000 kind of the way we wanna go and 00:09:20.000 –> 00:09:22.000 structure this off season. 00:09:22.000 –> 00:09:25.000 The way my personality is is I’m kind 00:09:25.000 –> 00:09:28.000 of a leave, like, don’t leave any stone 00:09:28.000 –> 00:09:29.000 unturned. 00:09:29.000 –> 00:09:30.000 I mean, it goes from 00:09:31.000 –> 00:09:33.000 literally when I wake up in the morning 00:09:33.000 –> 00:09:35.000 to every meal that I put in my 00:09:35.000 –> 00:09:37.000 body to my workouts, 00:09:38.000 –> 00:09:40.000 to the ways I structure my practice. I 00:09:40.000 –> 00:09:44.000 mean, pretty much speaking just golf, 00:09:44.000 –> 00:09:45.000 I mean, I have 00:09:46.000 –> 00:09:47.000 fundamental practice, 00:09:48.000 –> 00:09:50.000 skill development practice, and then games. And I 00:09:50.000 –> 00:09:51.000 try to just separate them 00:09:52.000 –> 00:09:54.000 like, one third, one third, one third. 00:09:55.000 –> 00:09:57.000 I mean, so there’s a bunch. And what’s 00:09:57.000 –> 00:09:58.000 that like? So nothing to Brett, but so 00:09:58.000 –> 00:09:59.000 that day, so is that like an eight 00:09:59.000 –> 00:10:01.000 hour day? Is that twelve hours? Five for 00:10:01.000 –> 00:10:02.000 it? What is that? 00:10:04.000 –> 00:10:05.000 I mean, I’d say a normal day. I’d 00:10:05.000 –> 00:10:07.000 get up at 6AM, 00:10:08.000 –> 00:10:09.000 and 00:10:09.000 –> 00:10:12.000 Brett much from six to 06:30, I do 00:10:12.000 –> 00:10:15.000 all of my mindfulness stuff. I know we 00:10:15.000 –> 00:10:17.000 talked about it a little bit and it’s 00:10:17.000 –> 00:10:20.000 just pretty much a way like you were 00:10:20.000 –> 00:10:21.000 talking about those thoughts that come into your 00:10:21.000 –> 00:10:22.000 mind and some 00:10:23.000 –> 00:10:24.000 get bigger. 00:10:24.000 –> 00:10:26.000 It’s just a way to 00:10:26.000 –> 00:10:29.000 get rid of disruptive thoughts and just don’t 00:10:29.000 –> 00:10:31.000 give them any credit because technically they don’t 00:10:31.000 –> 00:10:32.000 really mean anything. 00:10:33.000 –> 00:10:35.000 So I do that and then I spend 00:10:35.000 –> 00:10:37.000 the morning with my daughter and my wife, 00:10:37.000 –> 00:10:40.000 and we always do coffee and an unbelievable 00:10:40.000 –> 00:10:41.000 Brett, and 00:10:41.000 –> 00:10:43.000 by that time, she’s about ready to go 00:10:43.000 –> 00:10:45.000 down for a nap, and I’m out of 00:10:45.000 –> 00:10:47.000 the golf course at about 10AM. And 00:10:48.000 –> 00:10:50.000 depending on who’s out there or 00:10:51.000 –> 00:10:52.000 if it’s just myself, 00:10:52.000 –> 00:10:53.000 kind of structures. 00:10:54.000 –> 00:10:55.000 What I’m gonna do for that day, I 00:10:55.000 –> 00:10:58.000 mean, I have kind of my non negotiables 00:10:58.000 –> 00:11:00.000 that I have to get done. Every day 00:11:00.000 –> 00:11:02.000 with golf swing, short game, 00:11:02.000 –> 00:11:03.000 putting, 00:11:03.000 –> 00:11:05.000 stuff like that. And then if there’s guys 00:11:05.000 –> 00:11:09.000 there, we’ll go play a game and then 00:11:09.000 –> 00:11:09.000 come 00:11:10.000 –> 00:11:12.000 Brett much pretty much 00:11:13.000 –> 00:11:15.000 You’re basically living every guy like me’s dream. 00:11:15.000 –> 00:11:17.000 Right, is you do you get permission every 00:11:17.000 –> 00:11:19.000 day to go practice your golf game and 00:11:19.000 –> 00:11:20.000 go play a game of golf with your 00:11:20.000 –> 00:11:22.000 buddies, but really it’s work. And there’s no 00:11:22.000 –> 00:11:24.000 air quotes in that. That legitimately is work 00:11:24.000 –> 00:11:26.000 and how you’re providing for your family. 00:11:27.000 –> 00:11:29.000 Yeah. It definitely is. And now I’ll get 00:11:29.000 –> 00:11:30.000 home around 00:11:31.000 –> 00:11:32.000 four, 04:30, and 00:11:32.000 –> 00:11:34.000 I have a gym here at the house 00:11:34.000 –> 00:11:34.000 and 00:11:35.000 –> 00:11:37.000 normally my wife works out with me at 00:11:37.000 –> 00:11:39.000 the same time. It’s when my daughter’s down 00:11:39.000 –> 00:11:41.000 for a second nap, and Yep. 00:11:42.000 –> 00:11:43.000 Gilliland, 00:11:43.000 –> 00:11:44.000 I mean, I’m 00:11:44.000 –> 00:11:47.000 I’m pretty much asleep on the couch every 00:11:47.000 –> 00:11:48.000 night at 08:15. 00:11:49.000 –> 00:11:50.000 Dang. 00:11:50.000 –> 00:11:53.000 Brett at nine. I’m asleep by nine. If 00:11:53.000 –> 00:11:54.000 it’s either on the couch, then I have 00:11:54.000 –> 00:11:55.000 to roll over into the bed or 00:11:57.000 –> 00:11:58.000 I’m in bed pretty early. 00:11:59.000 –> 00:12:00.000 Yeah. And another thing I heard too is, 00:12:00.000 –> 00:12:02.000 which I loved and I thought this was 00:12:02.000 –> 00:12:05.000 really an abundant thinking, which is important. Right? 00:12:05.000 –> 00:12:06.000 For anything, but is, 00:12:07.000 –> 00:12:09.000 what you do on the road Kevin for 00:12:09.000 –> 00:12:11.000 your eating. I mean, how important that is 00:12:11.000 –> 00:12:13.000 for you and kinda get detail with that 00:12:13.000 –> 00:12:15.000 if you want. But I think And they 00:12:15.000 –> 00:12:17.000 ask you, like, you know, that’s not cheap. 00:12:17.000 –> 00:12:18.000 Right? And it’s not like, 00:12:19.000 –> 00:12:21.000 you know, in in golf, which is what 00:12:21.000 –> 00:12:23.000 I love about and kinda don’t like about 00:12:23.000 –> 00:12:24.000 it is there’s no there’s not they’re not 00:12:24.000 –> 00:12:26.000 signing you an eighteen million dollar a year 00:12:26.000 –> 00:12:28.000 contract and hoping you hit, you know, you 00:12:28.000 –> 00:12:30.000 know, one eighty for the St. Louis cardinals. 00:12:30.000 –> 00:12:32.000 You gotta go out and earn Right? But 00:12:32.000 –> 00:12:33.000 you are investing your dollars, 00:12:34.000 –> 00:12:37.000 extra dollars into your food prep. So talk 00:12:37.000 –> 00:12:38.000 about that. 00:12:38.000 –> 00:12:40.000 Yeah. So the nutrition part 00:12:41.000 –> 00:12:44.000 kind of dawned on me. It would be 00:12:44.000 –> 00:12:46.000 my Brett shirt freshman year of college. 00:12:47.000 –> 00:12:48.000 And Oklahoma State, by the way. 00:12:49.000 –> 00:12:51.000 Yep. I got injured in college. I fractured 00:12:52.000 –> 00:12:53.000 my l five, 00:12:53.000 –> 00:12:56.000 and I was out for the spring semester, 00:12:56.000 –> 00:12:58.000 and I’m like, this sucks. And that’s when 00:12:58.000 –> 00:13:00.000 I got bitness and nutrition. 00:13:01.000 –> 00:13:01.000 And 00:13:02.000 –> 00:13:04.000 I pretty much told myself that I’m never 00:13:04.000 –> 00:13:06.000 under my control, I’m never gonna get hurt 00:13:06.000 –> 00:13:07.000 again. If it’s a 00:13:08.000 –> 00:13:09.000 small stabilizing 00:13:10.000 –> 00:13:12.000 injury that I could have avoided. Like, that’s 00:13:12.000 –> 00:13:14.000 not gonna happen in my book. 00:13:14.000 –> 00:13:16.000 And so I was just taking the deepest 00:13:16.000 –> 00:13:19.000 dive into it and found an amazing guy 00:13:19.000 –> 00:13:21.000 that I work with down in encinitas, California. 00:13:21.000 –> 00:13:24.000 His name is Robert Yang, very holistic. 00:13:25.000 –> 00:13:26.000 He has a very 00:13:27.000 –> 00:13:27.000 straightforward 00:13:28.000 –> 00:13:29.000 type of way of eating. 00:13:29.000 –> 00:13:31.000 And just to kind of give you a 00:13:31.000 –> 00:13:32.000 quick preview on that, I mean, 00:13:33.000 –> 00:13:34.000 pretty much is 00:13:35.000 –> 00:13:37.000 outline or overview of how he’d like you 00:13:37.000 –> 00:13:39.000 to eat is the easiest way to maintain 00:13:39.000 –> 00:13:40.000 blood sugar 00:13:40.000 –> 00:13:43.000 and it’s protein fat and fiber. So 00:13:44.000 –> 00:13:48.000 protein is coming from animal. He’s massive into 00:13:49.000 –> 00:13:50.000 high quality 00:13:51.000 –> 00:13:52.000 organically stores 00:13:53.000 –> 00:13:56.000 grass fed cows or pasture raised poultry stuff 00:13:56.000 –> 00:13:59.000 like that just because the amino in it. 00:13:59.000 –> 00:14:00.000 You can’t 00:14:01.000 –> 00:14:02.000 get the amino acids on 00:14:03.000 –> 00:14:06.000 a plant based diet versus this animal based. 00:14:06.000 –> 00:14:09.000 And I mean, I felt I felt amazing. 00:14:09.000 –> 00:14:10.000 And 00:14:10.000 –> 00:14:12.000 when I literally wake up 00:14:13.000 –> 00:14:15.000 on the dot, I have the most energy 00:14:16.000 –> 00:14:17.000 throughout the entire day, 00:14:18.000 –> 00:14:18.000 and 00:14:19.000 –> 00:14:20.000 I just had to find a way to 00:14:20.000 –> 00:14:23.000 have that same thing on the road. 00:14:23.000 –> 00:14:24.000 So we just started 00:14:25.000 –> 00:14:28.000 renting houses every week, and I just cook 00:14:28.000 –> 00:14:30.000 every meal just because I can control 00:14:31.000 –> 00:14:33.000 every single thing that goes into it. I 00:14:33.000 –> 00:14:35.000 mean, if you go to a restaurant, they 00:14:35.000 –> 00:14:37.000 would actually show you what was in 00:14:38.000 –> 00:14:40.000 whatever, in a steak and vegetables. I mean, 00:14:40.000 –> 00:14:43.000 there’s gonna be terrible oils they use with 00:14:43.000 –> 00:14:46.000 it. It’s probably gonna be some sort of 00:14:47.000 –> 00:14:49.000 corn syrup or sugar on a sauce that 00:14:49.000 –> 00:14:51.000 they put on. I mean, so I’m just 00:14:51.000 –> 00:14:53.000 taking out all those factors and I just 00:14:53.000 –> 00:14:54.000 feel amazing. 00:14:55.000 –> 00:14:56.000 Yeah. I mean, what a commitment. What so 00:14:56.000 –> 00:14:57.000 what do you do when you go to? 00:14:57.000 –> 00:14:59.000 I mean, obviously you gotta go to events 00:14:59.000 –> 00:15:01.000 and, you know, your sponsors, and you go 00:15:01.000 –> 00:15:03.000 to nice dinners and all those things. So, 00:15:03.000 –> 00:15:04.000 I mean, what do you do if you’re 00:15:04.000 –> 00:15:06.000 at a nice high end steakhouse? 00:15:07.000 –> 00:15:08.000 How do you order food? 00:15:09.000 –> 00:15:11.000 Yeah. I just go pretty much as plain 00:15:11.000 –> 00:15:11.000 as possible. 00:15:12.000 –> 00:15:14.000 I mean, I’ll just get 00:15:15.000 –> 00:15:15.000 a very 00:15:16.000 –> 00:15:18.000 basic steak. I mean, say if we’re going 00:15:18.000 –> 00:15:20.000 to a steak house, it would be just 00:15:20.000 –> 00:15:23.000 a very basic steak, no sauce or anything 00:15:23.000 –> 00:15:26.000 like that. And Just get sweet vegetables. And 00:15:26.000 –> 00:15:28.000 normally, sometimes they’ll have a big sweet potato 00:15:29.000 –> 00:15:31.000 or just white rice or just something kinda 00:15:31.000 –> 00:15:33.000 easy like that and just keep it very 00:15:33.000 –> 00:15:35.000 simple. I mean Okay. Like, I I don’t 00:15:35.000 –> 00:15:38.000 eat any dairy, gluten, 00:15:38.000 –> 00:15:40.000 refined, like, I don’t eat any refined sugar. 00:15:40.000 –> 00:15:43.000 I’ll eat Brett. But no added sugars or 00:15:43.000 –> 00:15:45.000 anything like that. And, 00:15:46.000 –> 00:15:47.000 fortunately, I think I got this gene where 00:15:47.000 –> 00:15:49.000 I don’t like the taste of any sort 00:15:49.000 –> 00:15:50.000 of alcohol. 00:15:52.000 –> 00:15:55.000 So I may have tried literally great bottles 00:15:55.000 –> 00:15:56.000 of wine, and 00:15:57.000 –> 00:15:59.000 high end tequila. It all just tastes like 00:15:59.000 –> 00:16:02.000 gasoline to me. It’s like, oh, it’s burns. 00:16:02.000 –> 00:16:02.000 Yeah. 00:16:03.000 –> 00:16:06.000 So no no bourbon for you. Yeah. No. 00:16:06.000 –> 00:16:08.000 For me. I mean, I just put in 00:16:08.000 –> 00:16:11.000 all of it completely. So That’s awesome. That’s 00:16:11.000 –> 00:16:12.000 awesome. Good for you. 00:16:13.000 –> 00:16:15.000 Talk about the, you know, growing up, I 00:16:15.000 –> 00:16:16.000 think it’s important. 00:16:17.000 –> 00:16:19.000 You you can’t you you and Ricky Fowler 00:16:19.000 –> 00:16:20.000 have a relationship. Right? Both from the same 00:16:20.000 –> 00:16:21.000 hometown. 00:16:21.000 –> 00:16:23.000 Oklahoma State University. 00:16:24.000 –> 00:16:26.000 Talk about that. And I know, you know, 00:16:26.000 –> 00:16:28.000 you probably kinda right behind you here. You 00:16:28.000 –> 00:16:29.000 can see what you can see this blue 00:16:29.000 –> 00:16:31.000 back around here. That’s Jackie Joiner, Kersey, one 00:16:31.000 –> 00:16:32.000 of the greatest females, 00:16:33.000 –> 00:16:36.000 athletes ever. And she’s from, you know, six 00:16:36.000 –> 00:16:37.000 miles up the road. And I know a 00:16:37.000 –> 00:16:38.000 lot of people that have come out of 00:16:38.000 –> 00:16:41.000 that town And they said, they were they 00:16:41.000 –> 00:16:43.000 saw somebody do it. Right? They saw Jackie 00:16:43.000 –> 00:16:46.000 Joiner, Kersey. And so what about Ricky Fowler 00:16:46.000 –> 00:16:46.000 for you? 00:16:47.000 –> 00:16:49.000 We came from a little bit of, 00:16:50.000 –> 00:16:54.000 small town golf mecca because even outside of 00:16:54.000 –> 00:16:54.000 Ricky, 00:16:55.000 –> 00:16:57.000 Champions tour player and PJ Tour winner Tom 00:16:57.000 –> 00:17:00.000 Pernice Junior. No. He was there. Yeah. 00:17:01.000 –> 00:17:03.000 They moved to California because Brooke, his youngest 00:17:03.000 –> 00:17:04.000 daughter, 00:17:04.000 –> 00:17:07.000 was blind, and there’s a really good acupuncturist 00:17:08.000 –> 00:17:10.000 in Southern California. So Tom moved from 00:17:11.000 –> 00:17:13.000 Kansas City up to Marietta. So when I 00:17:13.000 –> 00:17:14.000 was 00:17:15.000 –> 00:17:17.000 When I was growing up, I saw 00:17:17.000 –> 00:17:20.000 Tom when he was directly in the prime 00:17:20.000 –> 00:17:21.000 of his career on the PJ tour. 00:17:22.000 –> 00:17:24.000 And then I also saw Ricky when he 00:17:24.000 –> 00:17:25.000 was 00:17:26.000 –> 00:17:29.000 eighth grade, ninth grade, tenth grade when he 00:17:29.000 –> 00:17:32.000 was shooting these low sixty scores in these 00:17:32.000 –> 00:17:33.000 junior tournaments 00:17:33.000 –> 00:17:36.000 Gilliland amateur tournaments and everyone is just like 00:17:36.000 –> 00:17:36.000 like 00:17:37.000 –> 00:17:39.000 the next coming with Jesus. This dude. Yeah. 00:17:41.000 –> 00:17:44.000 And just we struck up a friendship and 00:17:44.000 –> 00:17:46.000 practice together every day and 00:17:46.000 –> 00:17:49.000 we play with Tom. So, I mean, that 00:17:49.000 –> 00:17:51.000 was pretty much we had one other, which 00:17:51.000 –> 00:17:52.000 were probably my brother, some of the other 00:17:52.000 –> 00:17:54.000 good juniors at the club. I mean, we 00:17:54.000 –> 00:17:56.000 had a competitive day, 00:17:57.000 –> 00:17:59.000 every single day we were together with 00:17:59.000 –> 00:18:01.000 a current PJ tour player, 00:18:01.000 –> 00:18:04.000 and then Ricky’s obviously well on his way 00:18:04.000 –> 00:18:05.000 to becoming a golf hall of famer. 00:18:06.000 –> 00:18:08.000 Yeah. And able to learn from people who 00:18:08.000 –> 00:18:10.000 are better than you. 00:18:11.000 –> 00:18:12.000 I think is 00:18:12.000 –> 00:18:14.000 massive, and that was the main that was 00:18:14.000 –> 00:18:16.000 the main reason why I picked Oklahoma State 00:18:16.000 –> 00:18:17.000 was 00:18:18.000 –> 00:18:21.000 I was gonna be a small fish 00:18:21.000 –> 00:18:23.000 in an extremely large pond. 00:18:24.000 –> 00:18:27.000 And I was there with Kevin Twain, Morgan 00:18:27.000 –> 00:18:29.000 Hoffman, Peter Ulyne, 00:18:29.000 –> 00:18:31.000 Taylor Gooch, Wyndham Clark, 00:18:32.000 –> 00:18:33.000 and we had to qualify every week. So 00:18:33.000 –> 00:18:35.000 I’m trying to figure out ways 00:18:36.000 –> 00:18:38.000 to beat these first team all Americans and 00:18:38.000 –> 00:18:39.000 if now 00:18:39.000 –> 00:18:41.000 US Open champion and live player of the 00:18:41.000 –> 00:18:42.000 year. And, I mean, 00:18:43.000 –> 00:18:46.000 so just kind of picking choosing from kinda 00:18:46.000 –> 00:18:48.000 each player and kinda molding your own and 00:18:48.000 –> 00:18:49.000 trying to figure out how to win is 00:18:49.000 –> 00:18:52.000 extremely valuable, I think, in my opinion. 00:18:53.000 –> 00:18:54.000 Well, I put you on the spot earlier, 00:18:54.000 –> 00:18:56.000 so I can’t do it, twice. But, man, 00:18:56.000 –> 00:18:59.000 imagine if you had to pick Wyndham Clark, 00:18:59.000 –> 00:19:00.000 winning the US Open 00:19:00.000 –> 00:19:03.000 or Taylor Guch winning, you know, Catrillion dollars 00:19:03.000 –> 00:19:06.000 in the live tour of the year. Right? 00:19:06.000 –> 00:19:07.000 That’s 00:19:07.000 –> 00:19:09.000 a that’s a hell of a year for 00:19:09.000 –> 00:19:10.000 two of your buddies. 00:19:10.000 –> 00:19:13.000 Yep. And then, I mean, obviously, Victor, with 00:19:13.000 –> 00:19:13.000 the, 00:19:14.000 –> 00:19:15.000 yeah, 00:19:15.000 –> 00:19:16.000 up and 00:19:17.000 –> 00:19:19.000 pretty cool. We walked into we had a 00:19:19.000 –> 00:19:22.000 tournament up at Oaktree National, little pro scratch 00:19:22.000 –> 00:19:25.000 in Edmund, Oklahoma about three weeks ago, and 00:19:25.000 –> 00:19:28.000 you walk into the pro shop and You 00:19:28.000 –> 00:19:30.000 got the FedEx cut trophy on one side. 00:19:30.000 –> 00:19:31.000 You got to live 00:19:31.000 –> 00:19:33.000 golf trophy on the other side because Victor 00:19:33.000 –> 00:19:36.000 and Taylor both play out at Oaktree National. 00:19:36.000 –> 00:19:36.000 So it was 00:19:38.000 –> 00:19:39.000 were they there? 00:19:40.000 –> 00:19:43.000 Victor was. Yeah. Taylor went out I’ll be 00:19:43.000 –> 00:19:45.000 there. Yeah. Yeah. Victor had a hell of 00:19:45.000 –> 00:19:48.000 a year, man. That’s awesome. So talk about, 00:19:49.000 –> 00:19:50.000 you know, walking in that locker room, man. 00:19:50.000 –> 00:19:52.000 So you’re you’re going in basically a month 00:19:52.000 –> 00:19:55.000 from now, you’re gonna walk in and and, 00:19:55.000 –> 00:19:56.000 you know, it’s pretty cool as the guy’s 00:19:56.000 –> 00:19:59.000 following golf, Tiger playing today and teeing it 00:19:59.000 –> 00:20:00.000 I think I I looked. He was plus 00:20:00.000 –> 00:20:02.000 three through seventeen when we’re right before we 00:20:02.000 –> 00:20:05.000 started recording. So he’s right there. He’s five 00:20:05.000 –> 00:20:07.000 or six back, I think, or seven back. 00:20:07.000 –> 00:20:09.000 But cool. See him back out there. But 00:20:09.000 –> 00:20:10.000 But walk through and I know you played 00:20:10.000 –> 00:20:11.000 in p g a two or events, so 00:20:11.000 –> 00:20:13.000 maybe it’ll be different for you now. But 00:20:13.000 –> 00:20:15.000 as a p g a two or pro, 00:20:15.000 –> 00:20:17.000 walking into there, into that locker room, man. 00:20:17.000 –> 00:20:20.000 What’s that gonna be like for you and, 00:20:20.000 –> 00:20:21.000 and how do you keep your game face 00:20:21.000 –> 00:20:22.000 on? 00:20:22.000 –> 00:20:23.000 Yeah. 00:20:23.000 –> 00:20:26.000 I mean, it’s almost since the season’s been 00:20:26.000 –> 00:20:28.000 over, it’s almost been a sense of relief 00:20:29.000 –> 00:20:30.000 just because 00:20:30.000 –> 00:20:33.000 I mean, this journey’s been so long and 00:20:33.000 –> 00:20:35.000 you never know if you’re ever if you’re 00:20:35.000 –> 00:20:36.000 ever gonna get there. I mean, you can 00:20:36.000 –> 00:20:38.000 do all the right stuff and 00:20:38.000 –> 00:20:40.000 It just sometimes it’s just not in the 00:20:40.000 –> 00:20:41.000 cards. And so I think kinda getting over 00:20:41.000 –> 00:20:41.000 the hump 00:20:42.000 –> 00:20:42.000 of 00:20:47.000 –> 00:20:49.000 getting that to her card has been a 00:20:49.000 –> 00:20:51.000 massive sensor relief and I’m gonna go in 00:20:51.000 –> 00:20:53.000 there and I’m gonna enjoy every 00:20:54.000 –> 00:20:55.000 single 00:20:55.000 –> 00:20:57.000 week and every tournament. And 00:20:58.000 –> 00:21:00.000 I’m just I’m really trying to 00:21:01.000 –> 00:21:03.000 tell myself and remind myself to enjoy it 00:21:03.000 –> 00:21:05.000 because I know it’s gonna the year is 00:21:05.000 –> 00:21:06.000 gonna go fast. 00:21:07.000 –> 00:21:09.000 I mean, nothing’s guaranteed. I mean, 00:21:10.000 –> 00:21:11.000 I could play one year. I could play 00:21:12.000 –> 00:21:15.000 twenty five years. Yeah. So I’m just gonna 00:21:15.000 –> 00:21:15.000 try to be as present as 00:21:17.000 –> 00:21:18.000 possible. 00:21:18.000 –> 00:21:20.000 I know that good golf is gonna take 00:21:20.000 –> 00:21:21.000 care of itself, 00:21:21.000 –> 00:21:24.000 and I don’t need to try and change 00:21:24.000 –> 00:21:26.000 my game to 00:21:26.000 –> 00:21:28.000 fit the PJ tour and try to 00:21:29.000 –> 00:21:31.000 be someone else’s game or anything like that. 00:21:31.000 –> 00:21:33.000 And I might genuinely know if I go 00:21:33.000 –> 00:21:35.000 and I play good golf, then gonna plan 00:21:35.000 –> 00:21:37.000 on that tour for a very, very long 00:21:37.000 –> 00:21:39.000 time. Love it. Because you gotta be in 00:21:39.000 –> 00:21:41.000 the, what, top 01:50 to keep the card? 00:21:42.000 –> 00:21:43.000 Top 01:25. 00:21:43.000 –> 00:21:46.000 That 01:25. Okay. Yeah. 01:26 00:21:46.000 –> 00:21:47.000 to 01:50 00:21:47.000 –> 00:21:50.000 is still pretty much like a full card. 00:21:50.000 –> 00:21:51.000 Okay. 00:21:52.000 –> 00:21:53.000 I’ll just get to play. Do you get 00:21:53.000 –> 00:21:54.000 to play in all the tournaments this year 00:21:54.000 –> 00:21:56.000 other than, like, say, the masters, things you 00:21:56.000 –> 00:21:58.000 gotta qualify for, but do you get to 00:21:58.000 –> 00:21:59.000 play in most of the tournaments? 00:22:00.000 –> 00:22:03.000 Most of them. And then they have they 00:22:03.000 –> 00:22:06.000 have including the four majors. They have those 00:22:06.000 –> 00:22:07.000 signature events that they’re calling. 00:22:08.000 –> 00:22:11.000 Where they’ve kinda created their own it’s like 00:22:11.000 –> 00:22:13.000 sixty or seventy man fields. 00:22:14.000 –> 00:22:16.000 No cut kind of deal. You can play 00:22:16.000 –> 00:22:18.000 your way into those throughout the season. Okay. 00:22:18.000 –> 00:22:21.000 And then obviously you can qualify for 00:22:21.000 –> 00:22:23.000 US Open Brett Gilliland 00:22:24.000 –> 00:22:25.000 stuff like that. So, I mean, I’ll probably 00:22:26.000 –> 00:22:27.000 if I had to guess 00:22:27.000 –> 00:22:30.000 low twenties and mid twenties of full season. 00:22:30.000 –> 00:22:33.000 Yeah. Awesome. So, I know these guys will 00:22:33.000 –> 00:22:35.000 be listening to this. So we’re gonna have 00:22:35.000 –> 00:22:36.000 a little fun, and we’re gonna talk about 00:22:36.000 –> 00:22:38.000 what the amateur golfer can do. So I 00:22:38.000 –> 00:22:40.000 I these are two brothers, Mikey and Timmy 00:22:40.000 –> 00:22:40.000 Rai. 00:22:41.000 –> 00:22:43.000 And, you know, I’m gonna just I’m gonna 00:22:43.000 –> 00:22:44.000 take a lot of their money this summer 00:22:44.000 –> 00:22:46.000 coming up here in two thousand twenty four. 00:22:46.000 –> 00:22:48.000 So what do I need to do as 00:22:48.000 –> 00:22:49.000 a guy? Listen to this right now or 00:22:49.000 –> 00:22:51.000 gal? Listen to this. It’s Gulf or what 00:22:51.000 –> 00:22:52.000 I need to do this season to be 00:22:52.000 –> 00:22:54.000 ready for Gilliland then, how do I get 00:22:54.000 –> 00:22:56.000 better throughout the year? 00:22:57.000 –> 00:22:58.000 So 00:22:59.000 –> 00:23:02.000 to be ready, I mean, you need to 00:23:02.000 –> 00:23:04.000 have a small list of just your daily 00:23:04.000 –> 00:23:06.000 fundamentals Gilliland those should not change. 00:23:08.000 –> 00:23:10.000 They shouldn’t change over the entire year. 00:23:11.000 –> 00:23:11.000 Because 00:23:12.000 –> 00:23:15.000 to stay working on them and 00:23:15.000 –> 00:23:17.000 one percent each day, you’ll just kinda get 00:23:17.000 –> 00:23:20.000 better, better, better. And then within a year, 00:23:20.000 –> 00:23:21.000 then you can kinda reevaluate. 00:23:22.000 –> 00:23:24.000 Yep. Next is And when those things, are 00:23:24.000 –> 00:23:26.000 you talking about, like, working on chipping, working 00:23:26.000 –> 00:23:27.000 on putting, or is this more of, exercise 00:23:28.000 –> 00:23:29.000 type of stuff. Because, obviously, it’s cold here. 00:23:29.000 –> 00:23:31.000 We can’t play that much golf. 00:23:31.000 –> 00:23:33.000 Yeah. I mean, you know, 00:23:33.000 –> 00:23:34.000 do some indoor stuff. 00:23:35.000 –> 00:23:36.000 Regarding golf. 00:23:36.000 –> 00:23:38.000 If there’s, like, a pattern you wanna change, 00:23:38.000 –> 00:23:40.000 if you’re too steep, too shallow, 00:23:41.000 –> 00:23:44.000 just kinda work on those. And then 00:23:44.000 –> 00:23:46.000 you gotta figure out because that’s only one 00:23:46.000 –> 00:23:48.000 third of the whole puzzle. 00:23:49.000 –> 00:23:51.000 I mean, the other one, you gotta know 00:23:51.000 –> 00:23:53.000 how to hit shots. So I mean, 00:23:54.000 –> 00:23:55.000 that’s why you’ll see 00:23:56.000 –> 00:23:58.000 some guys with terrible golf swings, 00:23:58.000 –> 00:24:01.000 beat guys with perfect golf swings, just because 00:24:01.000 –> 00:24:02.000 they know how to play the game of 00:24:02.000 –> 00:24:03.000 golf better. 00:24:04.000 –> 00:24:07.000 And, I mean, that’s just as important as 00:24:07.000 –> 00:24:10.000 having the perfect wrist angle or whatever the 00:24:10.000 –> 00:24:12.000 this fat is on 00:24:12.000 –> 00:24:15.000 social media. I mean, if you can sit 00:24:15.000 –> 00:24:16.000 up there and hit a draw against a 00:24:16.000 –> 00:24:18.000 left to right wing to a left pin 00:24:18.000 –> 00:24:20.000 and then the next hole hit a fade 00:24:20.000 –> 00:24:22.000 to a right pin with a right crosswind. 00:24:23.000 –> 00:24:25.000 That’s gonna pay dividends compared to 00:24:25.000 –> 00:24:27.000 video your swing and trying to have it 00:24:27.000 –> 00:24:28.000 look 00:24:28.000 –> 00:24:30.000 So how do you do that Kevin, like, 00:24:30.000 –> 00:24:32.000 right? So let’s say, I mean, to the 00:24:32.000 –> 00:24:34.000 to the ten handicap guy or the fifteen 00:24:34.000 –> 00:24:36.000 handicap guy that probably can’t do that, 00:24:37.000 –> 00:24:38.000 How do you recommend that? We just, obviously, 00:24:38.000 –> 00:24:40.000 gotta learn it, gotta watch videos, gotta get 00:24:40.000 –> 00:24:42.000 with somebody, learn it, and then just edit 00:24:42.000 –> 00:24:44.000 copy, edit paste five thousand times. 00:24:44.000 –> 00:24:45.000 Yeah. You just kinda gotta 00:24:46.000 –> 00:24:48.000 experiment a little bit. I mean, when you 00:24:48.000 –> 00:24:49.000 do have that time to go to the 00:24:49.000 –> 00:24:51.000 range, I mean, try to make it fun. 00:24:51.000 –> 00:24:52.000 I mean, don’t 00:24:52.000 –> 00:24:55.000 don’t hit seven iron twenty five times at 00:24:55.000 –> 00:24:55.000 the same 00:24:56.000 –> 00:24:57.000 at the same flag on the range. I 00:24:57.000 –> 00:25:00.000 mean, hit a cut six to it and 00:25:00.000 –> 00:25:02.000 then grab your eight and try to hook 00:25:02.000 –> 00:25:03.000 the eight out. I don’t care if it 00:25:03.000 –> 00:25:03.000 hooks 00:25:04.000 –> 00:25:06.000 fifty yards, but just try to figure out 00:25:06.000 –> 00:25:07.000 how to play golf and then go to 00:25:07.000 –> 00:25:10.000 a different flag. And, I mean, I would 00:25:10.000 –> 00:25:10.000 challenge 00:25:11.000 –> 00:25:12.000 anyone to 00:25:12.000 –> 00:25:15.000 not hit the same club twice to the 00:25:15.000 –> 00:25:15.000 same target 00:25:16.000 –> 00:25:18.000 during a practice session. And I bet I 00:25:18.000 –> 00:25:19.000 bet their golf would get so much better. 00:25:21.000 –> 00:25:23.000 I love that. That’s awesome. Then what do 00:25:23.000 –> 00:25:25.000 you got? What advice you got for me? 00:25:25.000 –> 00:25:26.000 It’d be a better putter. 00:25:26.000 –> 00:25:28.000 Better putter. Well, 00:25:28.000 –> 00:25:30.000 do you have bad speed? 00:25:30.000 –> 00:25:32.000 Or is it more No. I’m I’m good 00:25:32.000 –> 00:25:34.000 lagging wise. It’s just, you know, that eight 00:25:34.000 –> 00:25:36.000 foot putt, that that ten foot putt, I 00:25:36.000 –> 00:25:38.000 miss, you know, probably. Well, I problem is 00:25:38.000 –> 00:25:40.000 I probably think I may I should make 00:25:40.000 –> 00:25:41.000 every one of them. In reality, I’d probably 00:25:41.000 –> 00:25:43.000 make about thirty percent of them. Right? But 00:25:43.000 –> 00:25:45.000 I but it seems like that’s my game. 00:25:45.000 –> 00:25:47.000 And I’m solid from t to green, and 00:25:47.000 –> 00:25:48.000 then I, you know, I can’t hit Brad 00:25:48.000 –> 00:25:49.000 said I have a bar and when it 00:25:49.000 –> 00:25:51.000 I just I don’t read putts very well. 00:25:51.000 –> 00:25:52.000 Yeah. So, 00:25:52.000 –> 00:25:54.000 I mean, I have a daily, 00:25:55.000 –> 00:25:58.000 daily putting, green reading drill that I think 00:25:58.000 –> 00:26:01.000 is incredible, and it’s very simple. So all 00:26:01.000 –> 00:26:02.000 you need is two dimes 00:26:03.000 –> 00:26:05.000 and pretty much as Sharpie. So 00:26:06.000 –> 00:26:08.000 same thing. Random. We’re only gonna hit one 00:26:08.000 –> 00:26:10.000 putt from the same spot and 00:26:10.000 –> 00:26:12.000 for example, say you’re ten feet on the 00:26:12.000 –> 00:26:13.000 putting green. Yeah. 00:26:14.000 –> 00:26:16.000 All down. Just put a little black dot 00:26:16.000 –> 00:26:18.000 behind the hole to mark your spot. 00:26:18.000 –> 00:26:20.000 Get behind it. However, you need to read 00:26:20.000 –> 00:26:22.000 it. However, you do it on the course. 00:26:22.000 –> 00:26:24.000 Do that. Put the black dot behind the 00:26:24.000 –> 00:26:25.000 ball or behind the hole? 00:26:25.000 –> 00:26:29.000 Behind the ball. Okay. Yep. Just so after 00:26:29.000 –> 00:26:31.000 you hit your putt, you don’t lose your 00:26:31.000 –> 00:26:31.000 spot. 00:26:32.000 –> 00:26:32.000 Got it. 00:26:33.000 –> 00:26:34.000 So then, however, you need to read the 00:26:34.000 –> 00:26:36.000 green, read it, and then 00:26:36.000 –> 00:26:38.000 about halfway between 00:26:38.000 –> 00:26:40.000 you and the hold. Take your two dimes 00:26:40.000 –> 00:26:43.000 about a putter head width apart. And 00:26:44.000 –> 00:26:46.000 wherever you think the ball needs to roll, 00:26:47.000 –> 00:26:48.000 just put it right there in the center 00:26:48.000 –> 00:26:51.000 with the two dimes on the side and 00:26:51.000 –> 00:26:53.000 go back to your black dot and then 00:26:53.000 –> 00:26:55.000 if you roll it through the dimes with 00:26:55.000 –> 00:26:56.000 good speed, 00:26:57.000 –> 00:26:59.000 it should go in with a good read. 00:27:00.000 –> 00:27:02.000 So you roll it through the dimes and 00:27:02.000 –> 00:27:03.000 it misses, then you know 00:27:04.000 –> 00:27:05.000 that it’s a bad read. So now you’re 00:27:05.000 –> 00:27:07.000 constantly working on green reading. So if you 00:27:07.000 –> 00:27:08.000 were to do that, 00:27:09.000 –> 00:27:11.000 nine holes a day, nine different putts uphill 00:27:11.000 –> 00:27:14.000 right to left, downhill left to right, 00:27:14.000 –> 00:27:17.000 all different distances. I mean, it’s impossible not 00:27:17.000 –> 00:27:18.000 to get better at Green Reading. 00:27:19.000 –> 00:27:21.000 Maybe I just edit edit this part out 00:27:21.000 –> 00:27:23.000 and don’t let Nike and Timmy and all 00:27:23.000 –> 00:27:25.000 my buddies hear this. Is that Yeah. No. 00:27:25.000 –> 00:27:26.000 We’ll let it go. We’ll let it go. 00:27:27.000 –> 00:27:28.000 I think that’d be good. 00:27:28.000 –> 00:27:29.000 I mean, I 00:27:30.000 –> 00:27:32.000 I understand too. I mean, it’s tough for 00:27:32.000 –> 00:27:35.000 it’s tough for guys that are getting out 00:27:35.000 –> 00:27:37.000 of the house once or twice a week 00:27:37.000 –> 00:27:38.000 and Yeah. 00:27:38.000 –> 00:27:39.000 Go up. 00:27:39.000 –> 00:27:41.000 I mean, you show up thirty five, forty 00:27:41.000 –> 00:27:42.000 minutes. 00:27:42.000 –> 00:27:44.000 Grab a drink, hit some balls, 00:27:44.000 –> 00:27:46.000 hit five putts, and then go. I mean, 00:27:47.000 –> 00:27:49.000 yes. And sometimes just grab a drink, don’t 00:27:49.000 –> 00:27:51.000 hit balls, hold the put the phone down, 00:27:51.000 –> 00:27:53.000 tee off, grab the phone and walk, and 00:27:53.000 –> 00:27:54.000 you meet your buddies on the first screen. 00:27:54.000 –> 00:27:56.000 Yeah. You’re finishing a call or something. But, 00:27:56.000 –> 00:27:59.000 that’s awesome. Talk about I mean, you guys 00:27:59.000 –> 00:28:00.000 got one of my old buddies. One of 00:28:00.000 –> 00:28:02.000 my old college buddies is at your country 00:28:02.000 –> 00:28:03.000 club. Tony Romo. 00:28:03.000 –> 00:28:05.000 Little did I know that Tony Romo was 00:28:05.000 –> 00:28:08.000 gonna be the, you know, Dallas Cowboys quarter 00:28:08.000 –> 00:28:09.000 back and, you know, make, you know, hundreds 00:28:09.000 –> 00:28:11.000 of millions of dollars on CBS as a 00:28:11.000 –> 00:28:12.000 sportscaster, 00:28:12.000 –> 00:28:15.000 but played a lot of basketball with Tony 00:28:15.000 –> 00:28:17.000 in college. And, he probably could have been 00:28:17.000 –> 00:28:18.000 on our golf team. 00:28:18.000 –> 00:28:20.000 But he was not. And, because he was 00:28:20.000 –> 00:28:22.000 too busy playing football. So you got Tony 00:28:22.000 –> 00:28:24.000 Romo, Will’s Altorris, and the guys. That’s who 00:28:24.000 –> 00:28:26.000 you’re playing golf with and having games with. 00:28:26.000 –> 00:28:27.000 Right? Right. 00:28:27.000 –> 00:28:30.000 Yeah. I mean, fortunately, Meredith has an unbelievable 00:28:32.000 –> 00:28:33.000 membership. I mean, 00:28:34.000 –> 00:28:37.000 everyone from kinda all the big sports around 00:28:37.000 –> 00:28:39.000 Dallas is a member there. 00:28:39.000 –> 00:28:39.000 Pavelelski 00:28:40.000 –> 00:28:41.000 player, 00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:43.000 We got Ian Kinsler who played in the 00:28:43.000 –> 00:28:44.000 Mlb promo and there’s twenty pros Martin 00:28:49.000 –> 00:28:50.000 Flores 00:28:51.000 –> 00:28:53.000 Sabashia Munja as Taylor Moore, PJ Tour winner. 00:28:53.000 –> 00:28:55.000 Davis Riley winner. 00:28:57.000 –> 00:28:59.000 And we’re all pretty much on the same 00:28:59.000 –> 00:29:02.000 schedule. So it’s very, very easy to get 00:29:02.000 –> 00:29:03.000 a game, and 00:29:03.000 –> 00:29:05.000 that’s kind of the easiest way 00:29:06.000 –> 00:29:08.000 to recreate tournament fields 00:29:08.000 –> 00:29:11.000 when you’re playing Realmo with infinite money 00:29:12.000 –> 00:29:13.000 again. Exactly. 00:29:14.000 –> 00:29:16.000 And wanting strokes too. He’s wanting to pop 00:29:16.000 –> 00:29:18.000 on how many holes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. 00:29:18.000 –> 00:29:18.000 He definitely 00:29:19.000 –> 00:29:21.000 he definitely tries to win the bet on 00:29:21.000 –> 00:29:22.000 the first tee. 00:29:23.000 –> 00:29:25.000 I’m not good at negotiator. Are you? So 00:29:25.000 –> 00:29:27.000 I mean, if you and Will’s Al Torres 00:29:27.000 –> 00:29:28.000 are going out, this is another one I 00:29:28.000 –> 00:29:30.000 joke with some of my buddies about in 00:29:30.000 –> 00:29:32.000 this guy, Pete, we always joke. And I’m 00:29:32.000 –> 00:29:33.000 like, you know, if Tiger and Rory are 00:29:33.000 –> 00:29:35.000 going out playing golf. You really think they’re 00:29:35.000 –> 00:29:37.000 negotiating on the first tee who’s getting pops? 00:29:37.000 –> 00:29:39.000 I’m like, no. They go play Gilliland 00:29:39.000 –> 00:29:42.000 Brett man wins. Stop asking for stroke. You 00:29:42.000 –> 00:29:44.000 know? And so I assume that’s the way 00:29:44.000 –> 00:29:45.000 it is. Am I correct in saying that 00:29:45.000 –> 00:29:47.000 you and Will Zelle Torres don’t talk about 00:29:48.000 –> 00:29:49.000 pops in the first tee box? 00:29:50.000 –> 00:29:52.000 No. Absolutely not. Like, 00:29:52.000 –> 00:29:55.000 no. I wouldn’t ask. Thank you, Kevin. 00:29:56.000 –> 00:29:58.000 I wouldn’t ask Tiger. I wouldn’t ask whoever 00:29:58.000 –> 00:30:00.000 never Scott, I mean, Scott is out there 00:30:00.000 –> 00:30:01.000 a lot. Like, No. You 00:30:02.000 –> 00:30:04.000 when you’re in this professional golf 00:30:05.000 –> 00:30:07.000 era Or amateur golf, and you just wanna 00:30:07.000 –> 00:30:08.000 take it to your buddies. If you’re a 00:30:08.000 –> 00:30:10.000 three handicap, and I’m a one handicap, I 00:30:10.000 –> 00:30:12.000 should to give you two pops. 00:30:12.000 –> 00:30:13.000 I agree. Yeah. 00:30:15.000 –> 00:30:16.000 Thank you. From 00:30:17.000 –> 00:30:19.000 I would say from mini tours to 00:30:21.000 –> 00:30:24.000 Brett much if you’re playing every single major, 00:30:24.000 –> 00:30:26.000 every single year, you never ask for pops. 00:30:27.000 –> 00:30:28.000 Some guy that just came you’re signing up 00:30:28.000 –> 00:30:29.000 for professional golf. 00:30:30.000 –> 00:30:32.000 Like, if you’re asking for pops, like, you’re 00:30:32.000 –> 00:30:33.000 probably 00:30:34.000 –> 00:30:35.000 in the wrong industry. 00:30:37.000 –> 00:30:39.000 You gotta have you gotta have the faith 00:30:39.000 –> 00:30:40.000 that you can go out and you can 00:30:40.000 –> 00:30:42.000 just drum these guys. Yeah. I love that. 00:30:42.000 –> 00:30:44.000 It’s kinda like when I was in my, 00:30:44.000 –> 00:30:45.000 I think, mid twenties, and I was looking 00:30:45.000 –> 00:30:47.000 for a new car. I thought I was 00:30:47.000 –> 00:30:49.000 a successful hotshot. And I asked the car 00:30:49.000 –> 00:30:51.000 dealer guy. I said, what’s what’s the miles 00:30:51.000 –> 00:30:53.000 per gallon for this on gas on this 00:30:53.000 –> 00:30:55.000 escalator? The guy goes, I don’t know. He 00:30:55.000 –> 00:30:57.000 goes, the people that buy them don’t ask 00:30:57.000 –> 00:30:58.000 that. And I go, 00:30:58.000 –> 00:31:00.000 great idea. I’m out. See you later. Thanks 00:31:00.000 –> 00:31:03.000 for your help. You know? Don’t need pops. 00:31:03.000 –> 00:31:03.000 So 00:31:04.000 –> 00:31:06.000 Last few stuff, we’re gonna talk about, but 00:31:06.000 –> 00:31:08.000 a cool story, man, and I think about 00:31:08.000 –> 00:31:10.000 putting yourself in the right spot, Justin Timberlake, 00:31:12.000 –> 00:31:13.000 tell us that story. You talked about that 00:31:13.000 –> 00:31:16.000 last time when we recorded. And, tell me 00:31:16.000 –> 00:31:16.000 that story. 00:31:17.000 –> 00:31:20.000 Yeah. So just golf being such a small 00:31:20.000 –> 00:31:20.000 world. 00:31:21.000 –> 00:31:22.000 Grayson 00:31:22.000 –> 00:31:24.000 is one of my sponsorships 00:31:25.000 –> 00:31:26.000 for clothing and Great stuff, by the way. 00:31:28.000 –> 00:31:29.000 Unbelievable. Gilliland 00:31:29.000 –> 00:31:32.000 close with Morgan Hoffman and who started grayson 00:31:33.000 –> 00:31:35.000 after leaving Gilliland 00:31:35.000 –> 00:31:37.000 we just kinda went on a boys trip 00:31:37.000 –> 00:31:40.000 up to New York Morgan has his own 00:31:40.000 –> 00:31:41.000 single engine 00:31:41.000 –> 00:31:42.000 piper 00:31:42.000 –> 00:31:44.000 Mirage, so we kind of flew around the 00:31:44.000 –> 00:31:48.000 country and play all some, like, great golf 00:31:48.000 –> 00:31:50.000 spots and everything like that. And we stopped 00:31:50.000 –> 00:31:53.000 up in New York where Charlie Schaffer 00:31:53.000 –> 00:31:56.000 who’s also another big name in Grayson, designer 00:31:57.000 –> 00:31:59.000 from r l x that went to Grayson. 00:32:00.000 –> 00:32:02.000 So we’re gonna play golf with him and 00:32:02.000 –> 00:32:04.000 he kinda had the relationship with Justin, 00:32:05.000 –> 00:32:07.000 and we’re gonna play Liberty National. 00:32:08.000 –> 00:32:09.000 So we show up the next day. I 00:32:09.000 –> 00:32:11.000 mean, I’m just thinking it’s me Morgan and 00:32:11.000 –> 00:32:11.000 Charlie. 00:32:12.000 –> 00:32:15.000 And show up. And, yeah, the fourth was 00:32:15.000 –> 00:32:16.000 Justin Timberlake. Holy shit. Yeah. 00:32:17.000 –> 00:32:17.000 So 00:32:21.000 –> 00:32:23.000 were playing Gilliland 00:32:23.000 –> 00:32:24.000 he was amazing. He was a complete boy’s 00:32:24.000 –> 00:32:24.000 boy, having 00:32:25.000 –> 00:32:26.000 fun, 00:32:30.000 –> 00:32:32.000 shooting the shit, just kinda doing 00:32:33.000 –> 00:32:33.000 everything 00:32:35.000 –> 00:32:37.000 that you and your buddies would do. Yeah. 00:32:38.000 –> 00:32:39.000 That’s kind of the round was coming to 00:32:39.000 –> 00:32:41.000 an end. He was just saying, Hey, like, 00:32:41.000 –> 00:32:43.000 y’all everyone had come to a concert. 00:32:43.000 –> 00:32:44.000 Let me know. 00:32:45.000 –> 00:32:45.000 And 00:32:46.000 –> 00:32:48.000 to, like, gave us his phone number. I’m 00:32:48.000 –> 00:32:49.000 like, wow. 00:32:50.000 –> 00:32:52.000 Thinking, yeah, it’s probably his manager’s phone number 00:32:52.000 –> 00:32:53.000 or 00:32:53.000 –> 00:32:55.000 the person who deals with tickets or whatever. 00:32:55.000 –> 00:32:56.000 So 00:32:57.000 –> 00:32:59.000 probably three or four months go by. 00:33:00.000 –> 00:33:02.000 And I see that he’s playing 00:33:02.000 –> 00:33:04.000 right here in my backyard in Dallas. 00:33:05.000 –> 00:33:06.000 So my god, I’ll give it a shot. 00:33:07.000 –> 00:33:09.000 Text him. Hey, dude. I see that you’re 00:33:09.000 –> 00:33:11.000 playing in Dallas. Never been to a concert 00:33:12.000 –> 00:33:13.000 I’d love to come. 00:33:13.000 –> 00:33:14.000 I mean, within a minute, 00:33:15.000 –> 00:33:16.000 he responds. 00:33:16.000 –> 00:33:17.000 Hey, dude. Absolutely. 00:33:19.000 –> 00:33:21.000 We’ll get you set up, friends and family 00:33:21.000 –> 00:33:23.000 passes, all this. Damn. 00:33:24.000 –> 00:33:25.000 So that was amazing. 00:33:26.000 –> 00:33:29.000 And had an awesome time. Got to see 00:33:29.000 –> 00:33:30.000 him after the show. 00:33:30.000 –> 00:33:33.000 His wife was there. Gilliland my wife got 00:33:33.000 –> 00:33:36.000 to me, talked. And it’s just Amazing. Like, 00:33:36.000 –> 00:33:36.000 just completely 00:33:37.000 –> 00:33:38.000 normal 00:33:38.000 –> 00:33:40.000 down to earth couldn’t be better. 00:33:41.000 –> 00:33:43.000 Fast forward maybe three or four months. We 00:33:43.000 –> 00:33:46.000 had, some off time our corn ferry schedule, 00:33:46.000 –> 00:33:48.000 and I was out in Scottsdale, 00:33:48.000 –> 00:33:51.000 and kinda his tour was going right through 00:33:51.000 –> 00:33:53.000 there. And I’m like, I had a couple 00:33:53.000 –> 00:33:55.000 buddies with me as, hey, you guys wanna 00:33:55.000 –> 00:33:56.000 go to a concert? They said, yeah. 00:33:57.000 –> 00:33:57.000 So 00:33:57.000 –> 00:34:00.000 same thing. Like, hadn’t talked to him since 00:34:00.000 –> 00:34:02.000 maybe the day after he played here in 00:34:02.000 –> 00:34:04.000 Dallas just saying thanks for whatever. And, 00:34:04.000 –> 00:34:05.000 hey, I’m in Scottsdale. 00:34:06.000 –> 00:34:08.000 See that you’re playing. I’m here for 00:34:09.000 –> 00:34:11.000 cut like a week or so. Like, let’s 00:34:11.000 –> 00:34:13.000 get to you. Bam. 00:34:13.000 –> 00:34:13.000 Immediately. 00:34:14.000 –> 00:34:16.000 Got you stirring 00:34:17.000 –> 00:34:18.000 It was during, 00:34:19.000 –> 00:34:21.000 spring training. So that everyone was there. 00:34:22.000 –> 00:34:23.000 And, I mean, I’m 00:34:23.000 –> 00:34:26.000 sitting there watching JT perform next to Mike 00:34:26.000 –> 00:34:27.000 trout and Kershon. 00:34:29.000 –> 00:34:31.000 Yeah. I’m just like, what is going on? 00:34:31.000 –> 00:34:33.000 Like, I’m just keeping my cool act like 00:34:33.000 –> 00:34:33.000 this is normal. 00:34:34.000 –> 00:34:34.000 Yeah. 00:34:35.000 –> 00:34:38.000 So kinda same thing after, like, as the 00:34:38.000 –> 00:34:40.000 show starts to wind down, like, they kinda 00:34:40.000 –> 00:34:41.000 filter us just kinda into, 00:34:42.000 –> 00:34:44.000 like, a big, like, room 00:34:44.000 –> 00:34:47.000 kind of where he hangs out after and 00:34:48.000 –> 00:34:50.000 that’s when Aaron Rogers was there in Dayton 00:34:50.000 –> 00:34:52.000 Danick Apache at the time and John 00:34:54.000 –> 00:34:54.000 Malanger 00:34:55.000 –> 00:34:56.000 you know, I kinda go way back just 00:34:56.000 –> 00:34:59.000 because he played it for Jenny Country Club 00:34:59.000 –> 00:35:01.000 in Long Beach, and my grandfather lived there. 00:35:01.000 –> 00:35:04.000 So Matt has sparked up a little conversation 00:35:04.000 –> 00:35:05.000 with Aaron. Just say, hey, I think we 00:35:05.000 –> 00:35:08.000 have a mutual friend, John Malinger goes, oh, 00:35:08.000 –> 00:35:10.000 yeah, because they used to play a pro 00:35:10.000 –> 00:35:11.000 am together and 00:35:11.000 –> 00:35:13.000 So me and JT were just planning on 00:35:13.000 –> 00:35:16.000 playing golf the next day at Scottsdale National. 00:35:17.000 –> 00:35:18.000 Because I was with PXG at the time. 00:35:18.000 –> 00:35:19.000 That’s where he was staying. 00:35:20.000 –> 00:35:22.000 And he just invited Aaron. 00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:23.000 And 00:35:23.000 –> 00:35:24.000 so 00:35:24.000 –> 00:35:26.000 show up the next day and on the 00:35:26.000 –> 00:35:28.000 first tee, it’s myself. 00:35:29.000 –> 00:35:29.000 Justin, 00:35:29.000 –> 00:35:32.000 Aaron, and Justin’s manager. 00:35:32.000 –> 00:35:34.000 And I’m just, like, I’m just hanging out 00:35:34.000 –> 00:35:36.000 with who’s who and 00:35:36.000 –> 00:35:37.000 the best part. 00:35:38.000 –> 00:35:40.000 That I’ve been around 00:35:41.000 –> 00:35:44.000 guys of that stature that absolutely suck. And, 00:35:44.000 –> 00:35:45.000 like, I 00:35:45.000 –> 00:35:48.000 I’m like, whatever. Like, you’re not worth my 00:35:48.000 –> 00:35:49.000 time. And 00:35:49.000 –> 00:35:50.000 that can be, 00:35:51.000 –> 00:35:51.000 like, 00:35:52.000 –> 00:35:54.000 more truthful when I say Aaron and JT 00:35:54.000 –> 00:35:56.000 are just so down to earth 00:35:56.000 –> 00:36:00.000 genuine and just kinda actually care about, like, 00:36:00.000 –> 00:36:03.000 the people that are around. So That’s awesome. 00:36:03.000 –> 00:36:05.000 Well, looks like Aaron Rogers may be coming 00:36:05.000 –> 00:36:06.000 back, man. How cool would that be? I 00:36:06.000 –> 00:36:07.000 mean, after tearing your Achilles? 00:36:08.000 –> 00:36:11.000 It’s impressive. I mean, it’s inspiring 00:36:11.000 –> 00:36:12.000 kinda It is. 00:36:13.000 –> 00:36:15.000 Work that he’s doing and 00:36:15.000 –> 00:36:17.000 the power of the mind. And, 00:36:18.000 –> 00:36:20.000 I mean, it’s it’s wild. I hope I 00:36:20.000 –> 00:36:23.000 hope that he can come back and, I 00:36:23.000 –> 00:36:26.000 mean, somehow, have the Cinderella story and turn 00:36:27.000 –> 00:36:29.000 turn those jets around and Just something to 00:36:29.000 –> 00:36:30.000 be amazing. 00:36:30.000 –> 00:36:32.000 So last last topic here is you you 00:36:32.000 –> 00:36:33.000 said to power the mind and I was 00:36:33.000 –> 00:36:36.000 actually going to mindset. So, again, whether I’m 00:36:36.000 –> 00:36:38.000 on the golf course and I’m frustrated and 00:36:38.000 –> 00:36:40.000 and I’m work, I’m frustrated or a home 00:36:40.000 –> 00:36:41.000 you can be frustrated. 00:36:42.000 –> 00:36:43.000 What what are some of the the kind 00:36:43.000 –> 00:36:46.000 of the practices you do to stay mentally 00:36:46.000 –> 00:36:49.000 strong? Cause mental performance is Kevin no matter 00:36:49.000 –> 00:36:50.000 what area of life. Right? So so what 00:36:50.000 –> 00:36:52.000 do you do to stay mentally strong and 00:36:52.000 –> 00:36:55.000 maybe not get too high, too low, no 00:36:55.000 –> 00:36:56.000 matter what moment you’re in? 00:36:57.000 –> 00:37:00.000 Yeah. So one thing that I’ve learned from 00:37:00.000 –> 00:37:02.000 my mental coach is 00:37:03.000 –> 00:37:05.000 figuring out how to stay present. And 00:37:07.000 –> 00:37:09.000 I know it sounds pretty cliche, but 00:37:10.000 –> 00:37:11.000 when things start to 00:37:12.000 –> 00:37:14.000 speed up or go sideways, and 00:37:15.000 –> 00:37:17.000 our minds start racing or everything like that. 00:37:17.000 –> 00:37:17.000 So 00:37:18.000 –> 00:37:19.000 becoming mindful 00:37:20.000 –> 00:37:20.000 of 00:37:21.000 –> 00:37:23.000 those times, and then I literally asked myself 00:37:24.000 –> 00:37:26.000 Like, how do I know I’m breathing? 00:37:26.000 –> 00:37:28.000 Because if I know that I’m breathing, like, 00:37:28.000 –> 00:37:30.000 if I focus on, like, for me, like, 00:37:30.000 –> 00:37:32.000 I feel like the air going in my 00:37:32.000 –> 00:37:32.000 nostrils, 00:37:33.000 –> 00:37:34.000 and then I’ll, 00:37:34.000 –> 00:37:36.000 like, I am so dialed into 00:37:38.000 –> 00:37:39.000 this present moment. 00:37:40.000 –> 00:37:42.000 That everything else kinda 00:37:42.000 –> 00:37:44.000 the waves start to get smaller and smaller 00:37:44.000 –> 00:37:45.000 from, like, the outside of what I’m kinda 00:37:45.000 –> 00:37:46.000 going 00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:48.000 through. 00:37:48.000 –> 00:37:50.000 So if it’s from frustration 00:37:50.000 –> 00:37:52.000 or if I’m in contention, 00:37:52.000 –> 00:37:55.000 and I’ll do it multiple times around. I 00:37:55.000 –> 00:37:57.000 mean, multiple times a hole if I need 00:37:57.000 –> 00:37:59.000 to just walk into a shot, breathing, focusing. 00:38:00.000 –> 00:38:02.000 Yeah. Exactly. I mean, just stuff that you 00:38:02.000 –> 00:38:03.000 can control. 00:38:05.000 –> 00:38:07.000 So I’d say that would be one of 00:38:07.000 –> 00:38:08.000 them. And then 00:38:08.000 –> 00:38:09.000 just daily 00:38:09.000 –> 00:38:10.000 mindfulness practices. 00:38:11.000 –> 00:38:13.000 So, like, this morning, I wake up 00:38:14.000 –> 00:38:17.000 and I pretty much set my alarm for 00:38:17.000 –> 00:38:19.000 anywhere between five to seven minutes 00:38:19.000 –> 00:38:21.000 and close my eyes. 00:38:21.000 –> 00:38:24.000 And I literally try to see every thought 00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:24.000 that comes into my mind. And I don’t 00:38:24.000 –> 00:38:25.000 act upon it 00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:30.000 or 00:38:30.000 –> 00:38:33.000 judge it or anything like that just pretty 00:38:33.000 –> 00:38:35.000 much like waves in the ocean because that 00:38:35.000 –> 00:38:37.000 thought comes in and then it goes out 00:38:37.000 –> 00:38:39.000 and just not giving 00:38:39.000 –> 00:38:41.000 any And that’s starting to rub, but that’s, 00:38:41.000 –> 00:38:44.000 oh, my shoulder hurts. It’s okay. Don’t say 00:38:44.000 –> 00:38:46.000 anything. It’s, I gotta do this thing today. 00:38:46.000 –> 00:38:48.000 I gotta run this, Aaron. Gotta practice this 00:38:48.000 –> 00:38:50.000 way. I gotta this meeting later. 00:38:51.000 –> 00:38:52.000 Don’t think. 00:38:53.000 –> 00:38:55.000 Don’t judge. Brett it go. Yep. 00:38:56.000 –> 00:38:58.000 Yep. It just kinda gets you 00:38:59.000 –> 00:39:01.000 kinda gets you in like the being mode 00:39:01.000 –> 00:39:03.000 of mind rather than always trying to do 00:39:03.000 –> 00:39:04.000 something 00:39:05.000 –> 00:39:07.000 and trying to control this and trying to 00:39:07.000 –> 00:39:08.000 control that. 00:39:08.000 –> 00:39:11.000 Like, because if you tried control too much, 00:39:11.000 –> 00:39:11.000 then 00:39:12.000 –> 00:39:12.000 Yeah. 00:39:13.000 –> 00:39:14.000 Then you feel like 00:39:14.000 –> 00:39:17.000 you, like, are almost out of control. Like, 00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:17.000 this 00:39:17.000 –> 00:39:19.000 first time something falls off a shelf. I 00:39:19.000 –> 00:39:22.000 mean, you’re triggered. Or, so there’s definitely a 00:39:22.000 –> 00:39:23.000 balance between 00:39:24.000 –> 00:39:26.000 what you can’t control and what you cannot 00:39:26.000 –> 00:39:27.000 control. Yep. 00:39:27.000 –> 00:39:29.000 Yep. Solid. Solid being in the moment, man. 00:39:29.000 –> 00:39:31.000 It’s also I find myself 00:39:31.000 –> 00:39:33.000 you go out maybe you birdie one and 00:39:33.000 –> 00:39:35.000 three, and you’re like, alright, man. Two hundred. 00:39:35.000 –> 00:39:36.000 Man, if I do that. And it’s like 00:39:36.000 –> 00:39:38.000 you already start thinking about that, you know, 00:39:38.000 –> 00:39:40.000 for us guys, if I’m a go out 00:39:40.000 –> 00:39:41.000 and have a chance to shoot sixty eight. 00:39:41.000 –> 00:39:43.000 You know, I’m like, holy crap. You know, 00:39:43.000 –> 00:39:45.000 but then I’m like, I gotta stay present. 00:39:45.000 –> 00:39:47.000 The next swing matters. Don’t worry about where 00:39:47.000 –> 00:39:48.000 I’m at at the end of the round. 00:39:48.000 –> 00:39:49.000 And I try to do that. But as 00:39:49.000 –> 00:39:51.000 soon as and I’m getting better at it, 00:39:51.000 –> 00:39:52.000 but as soon as my mind starts going 00:39:52.000 –> 00:39:54.000 there, and it’s like, oh, crap. There’s a 00:39:54.000 –> 00:39:55.000 double bogey. 00:39:55.000 –> 00:39:57.000 You know, it just takes all focus away. 00:39:57.000 –> 00:40:00.000 It’s crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that’s why 00:40:01.000 –> 00:40:04.000 literally learning how to be incredibly present is 00:40:04.000 –> 00:40:05.000 so powerful because 00:40:06.000 –> 00:40:09.000 I mean, what you did two holes ago 00:40:09.000 –> 00:40:09.000 is 00:40:10.000 –> 00:40:12.000 completely irrelevant to this shot. 00:40:13.000 –> 00:40:14.000 And then 00:40:14.000 –> 00:40:17.000 if you’re worrying about screwing it up, like 00:40:17.000 –> 00:40:17.000 you’ve 00:40:18.000 –> 00:40:19.000 already casted this 00:40:20.000 –> 00:40:23.000 pretty much this future that you think you 00:40:23.000 –> 00:40:24.000 should be in. 00:40:24.000 –> 00:40:28.000 Yeah. You know, rather than just staying present 00:40:28.000 –> 00:40:30.000 and just dealing and living with the outcome. 00:40:31.000 –> 00:40:31.000 Yep. 00:40:32.000 –> 00:40:33.000 I I keep saying last question, but I’m 00:40:33.000 –> 00:40:35.000 just curious if you got like you. I 00:40:35.000 –> 00:40:37.000 I just picked up a sixty degree wedge 00:40:37.000 –> 00:40:38.000 this past year. I’ve never done that. My 00:40:38.000 –> 00:40:41.000 whole career of playing golf. But what what 00:40:41.000 –> 00:40:42.000 wedges do you use? 00:40:43.000 –> 00:40:44.000 I use Voci. 00:40:45.000 –> 00:40:48.000 Okay. That’s what I use. Yeah. Voci. Sixty, 00:40:48.000 –> 00:40:49.000 fifty six, 00:40:50.000 –> 00:40:51.000 fifty two. 00:40:53.000 –> 00:40:55.000 And a fun little story actually about Voci 00:40:55.000 –> 00:40:56.000 is 00:40:56.000 –> 00:40:59.000 So Aaron Dill is the head 00:41:01.000 –> 00:41:03.000 pretty much Bob Vokey’s right hand man on 00:41:03.000 –> 00:41:04.000 tour. 00:41:04.000 –> 00:41:05.000 Okay. 00:41:07.000 –> 00:41:09.000 Take it back, I don’t know, twenty years. 00:41:09.000 –> 00:41:13.000 Kevin Dale was working at a local golf 00:41:13.000 –> 00:41:14.000 shop in my hometown, and he was my 00:41:14.000 –> 00:41:15.000 first 00:41:15.000 –> 00:41:16.000 golf coach. 00:41:17.000 –> 00:41:17.000 No way. 00:41:18.000 –> 00:41:20.000 Yeah. Now he’s building what I he’s building 00:41:20.000 –> 00:41:23.000 wedges for all these major champions and 00:41:23.000 –> 00:41:25.000 buddies of mine that obviously are out winning 00:41:25.000 –> 00:41:27.000 and stuff like that. And if Aaron gets 00:41:27.000 –> 00:41:28.000 brought up, my buddy, he’s my first golf 00:41:28.000 –> 00:41:31.000 coach and guys are just what, blown away. 00:41:31.000 –> 00:41:31.000 So 00:41:32.000 –> 00:41:35.000 golf such as, like, crazy, small. It’s small 00:41:35.000 –> 00:41:35.000 world. 00:41:35.000 –> 00:41:38.000 It’s my, thirteen year old’s pump, man, mom 00:41:38.000 –> 00:41:40.000 and dad got him a fifty two, a 00:41:40.000 –> 00:41:42.000 fifty six, and a sixty Vokey for Christmas 00:41:42.000 –> 00:41:44.000 this year. And he just, like, cannot wait 00:41:45.000 –> 00:41:47.000 to get those bad boys. So, man, I 00:41:47.000 –> 00:41:49.000 can keep talking, gawking all day long. 00:41:50.000 –> 00:41:51.000 But, man, you are gonna be, you’re gonna 00:41:51.000 –> 00:41:53.000 have a big fan. We’re gonna be watching 00:41:53.000 –> 00:41:54.000 you, man. We’re gonna be rooting you on, 00:41:54.000 –> 00:41:56.000 and, maybe I’ll come out and see you 00:41:56.000 –> 00:41:58.000 this on tour. But, hang with me while 00:41:58.000 –> 00:41:59.000 I turn this off, but thanks so much 00:41:59.000 –> 00:42:00.000 for being on the circumstance. 00:42:01.000 –> 00:42:03.000 Yeah. Thanks again. Glad we could do it.