“Success is any kind of positive change.” Joe S., NYC, February 1996

Kim and Jeannine interview Joe Schrank, a clinical social worker who describes himself as an “advocate for the entire spectrum of how people improve in recovery.” Also the co-host of the podcast, “Rehab Confidential,” and frequent contributor to the Huffington Post, Salon, Daily Beast and The Fix news, Joe provides a different view of recovery, specifically the complex and controversial spectrum of harm reduction in the treatment of addiction. Connect with the show: https://instagram.com/chasingheroine?igshid=1u21bip2w55ed